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Title: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Mr. O on November 22, 2005, 01:35:07 AM
So what ya think?  Do you guys agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq and why?

I say we should bring them back mainly because we ain't really fightin' for a good.  Lot of good men died because of this and so..i wanna know ya guys opinion.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on November 22, 2005, 01:38:17 AM

although the reason for going there in the first place was wrong.. i believe there is a responsibility to try and stabilise the country before leaving.. just pulling everyone out leaves a huge vacuum of power..
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 22, 2005, 01:51:49 AM
Fuck it. Pull out. We made shit worse over there anyways. Why fuck it up more?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Low Key on November 22, 2005, 01:54:13 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on November 22, 2005, 01:56:51 AM
Fuck it. Pull out. We made shit worse over there anyways. Why fuck it up more?

point is.. pulling out will fuck it up more..


if you go into a country and destroy the entire administration and army from the ground up and leave them with no security and no leadership u cant just leave..
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 22, 2005, 01:59:19 AM

although the reason for going there in the first place was wrong.. i believe there is a responsibility to try and stabilise the country before leaving.. just pulling everyone out leaves a huge vacuum of power..
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: coola on November 22, 2005, 02:01:45 AM
i thinks its past the point of no return... they have to ride it out now..
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 22, 2005, 02:04:08 AM
Fuck it. Pull out. We made shit worse over there anyways. Why fuck it up more?

point is.. pulling out will fuck it up more..


if you go into a country and destroy the entire administration and army from the ground up and leave them with no security and no leadership u cant just leave..

Eh. They'll establish their own government regardless of whether or not the US does it for them or not. They basically resent everything the US has done for them, and rightfully so.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 22, 2005, 02:34:33 AM
thats wishful thinking its more likely to turn into another somalia
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 22, 2005, 02:55:38 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on November 22, 2005, 02:57:48 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

rubbish.. there were attacks before iraq.

and of course attacks on the US in iraq would stop.. they wouldnt be there to attack.. duh!


Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 22, 2005, 03:02:11 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

rubbish.. there were attacks before iraq.

and of course attacks on the US in iraq would stop.. they wouldnt be there to attack.. duh!




No doubt Sadaam did many things wrong, but Iraq was a stable, soveriegn and secure government before he was toppled in March 2003.  Yeah, Iraq had wars, but so has the US, open your eyes, America had a civil war just a little over 100 years ago, and America has had two major riots along with the civil rights movement, America has involvement militarily in 100 countries around the world.  Iraq had it's own drama to boot, but most of that stemmed from US involvement anyway (1rst Gulf War, 10 years of punishing sanctions, etc.).
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: coola on November 22, 2005, 03:03:01 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

then why are those rag-heads threatening Canada ? France ? Alaska ?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 22, 2005, 03:04:09 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

then why are those rag-heads threatening Canada ? France ? Alaska ?

they aren't
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: coola on November 22, 2005, 03:05:49 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

then why are those rag-heads threatening Canada ? France ? Alaska ?

they aren't

i challenge you to prove this !
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 22, 2005, 03:07:25 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

then why are those rag-heads threatening Canada ? France ? Alaska ?

they aren't

i challenge you to prove this !

they aren't, and from your post I can tell you are racist, prejudice, and ignorant, so obviously your hatred stems from fear which has nothing to do with them, and everything to do with your own problem you need to fix.

Your the one who made the claim, you prove it.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: coola on November 22, 2005, 03:11:07 AM
ok so i made up theyre threatening alaska... it was meant to be a joke...
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: coola on November 22, 2005, 03:14:45 AM
i dont remember where the post is, but that lincoln dude said that Canada is under threat too... in France they look for bullshit reasons to threaten the people there... they just want to instigate fear among the western world... they threatened France with violence, because the french want to abolish all religion from schools, christian muslim every religion... the french had nothing to do with the occupation of iraq, those fuckinbg muslims could have attacked the french govt. politically, instead of making terrorist threats.

i think you have it all backwards my little rag friend.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Low Key on November 22, 2005, 03:29:12 AM
If the US pulls out now, expect more terrorist attacks.

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

It's common sense. 9/11 was the reason why the US invaded the middle east in the first place. Whatever happened behind the scenes to cause that is nowhere near as close to the havoc being waged now. If those nut jobs aren't taken out now there is no telling what kind of danger would be in store for the western world.

The thing that really baffles me is the fact that more and more attacks keep happening, but if those fuckers would just calm the fuck down and let the US clean up their mess, they would leave and the Muslims could have their country back. This shit only turned into a war against terror in Muslim countries after Saddam was taken out of power and crazy assholes started blowing themselves up. As far as I'm concerned, before that, the war on terror consisted of Osama and his cohorts.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: coola on November 22, 2005, 03:32:15 AM
i seriously am starting to think that those rag-heads are planning to blow up the world... they can so easily access nuclear shit, they are probably just planning to blow up every major city in the western world...

my only advice: get as much puss as possible before the end comes...
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on November 22, 2005, 03:33:37 AM

the problem is the muslims have their own factions in iraq.. they're fighting for control...

Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: mauzip on November 22, 2005, 03:37:38 AM
thats wishful thinking its more likely to turn into another somalia
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J Bananas on November 22, 2005, 12:17:22 PM
if we use a condom we wont have to pull out
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: 'EclipZe on November 22, 2005, 12:46:56 PM
rag-heads

Ur Using that word much lil boy.


Btw. they started the shit so they better fix it 2. but personally I think they shouldn't retreat because what if another group of terrorist takes over command @ Iraq? another stupid war.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: WestCoasta on November 22, 2005, 12:51:49 PM
these guys are scum, they're so pissed about the shit hole they live in that they wanna end the world, it's actually quite amusing  ;D
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Javier on November 22, 2005, 12:55:54 PM
Nobody wants an immediate withdrawal.  John Mertha's plan has been labaled by members of the same party and opposing party as a "cut and run" type of strategy but it is nothing like that.  The plan is to speed up the training of the Iraqi army, police etc,  move the troops from Iraq to surround nations, and see how things work out during this time period.  If things calm down, then troops will start heading home.  If things are still hectic the U.S will step back in.  The U.S eventually are going to have to withdraw from Iraq and see how the Iraqi people will govern themselves.  Are the targets right now the american soldiers? or the democracy that is being put in ?  If it's option 2 then it's going to be an endless war that will kill thousands and thousands of american soldiers for the sole reason to take out a form of government and implement another. 
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 22, 2005, 01:09:29 PM
The US will withdraw at the end ,After Every Drop of oil is drained.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: sandieman27 on November 22, 2005, 01:39:20 PM
I think we should.....we are about to experience a modern day depression in a minute.  How are we gonna go to someone else's soil tell them what to do and how they should do it when our own gov't is shady.  Besides we don't want another country to be more powerful than we are, right!!
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Mr. O on November 22, 2005, 04:36:57 PM
I can't believe they labeled murtha to be a coward type.  Here's the thing..if we withdraw from iraq, how can it really be bad for u.s.?  However, yeah.they should train those newly soldiers to defend their own country..but damn..they need to speed up.  Have thousand soldiers come back home every month.  They should set those damn time table.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Javier on November 22, 2005, 04:38:43 PM
I can't believe they labeled murtha to be a coward type.

That was just pathetic.  If Karl Rove was a Dem...there would have been a fucking Happy Meal after the situation
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 22, 2005, 04:43:30 PM

the problem is the muslims have their own factions in iraq.. they're fighting for control...



Exactly. Regardless of the US presence.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 22, 2005, 04:58:34 PM
some really stupid posts in this thread


"if we withdraw the terrorists will kill us"

fuckin read a book u dumb rednecks
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 22, 2005, 05:30:34 PM
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Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: WestCoasta on November 22, 2005, 05:34:55 PM
(http://tinypic.com/fz6j4l.jpg)

dirty scumbag Arabs started it  ;D
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 22, 2005, 07:02:01 PM
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lol good shit
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 22, 2005, 07:13:12 PM
^ CWalker in a nutshell
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 23, 2005, 03:21:28 PM
*Props Jamal*

...and by the way, America started it, no doubt, America has been involved in Middle Eastern affairs since the 50's.  They realized after World War 2 just how vital a resource oil really was, and Eisenhower's administration said America must get their hands on Middle Eastern oil even if that meant fighting for it.  One of the first moves was in 1953 when the CIA helped overthrow the democratically elected leader of Iran, Muhammad Mosedegh, and installed their puppet dictator the Shah, to facilitate their oil interests in the region.  It's been on ever since.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Low Key on November 23, 2005, 04:08:15 PM
Okay then why doesn't Al-Queda target government facilities? They kill civilians who have no control over what the hell happens. I didn't do anything to them, why am I cannon fodder?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 23, 2005, 04:16:48 PM
Okay then why doesn't Al-Queda target government facilities? They kill civilians who have no control over what the hell happens. I didn't do anything to them, why am I cannon fodder?

Man... I don't even know what your talking about, but I'm going to be patient with you, because my own family members (my side of the family) think just like you do, and I have to be patient with them. 

First things first, your life is not in danger.  If you choose to live your whole life in fear than that's your own fault.  There's only been one attack in America, 9-11.  And the targets were the Pentagon, which is a clear attack on the government as the Pentagon is a headquarters for the US Military, and the World Trade Center, which is the headquarters for America's foriegn economic affairs, and most wars today aren't fought on the battle field, they are fought through economics, sanctions, embargo's, there's people powerful enough to press one button and starve a whole village of people. 

Second of all, don't believe everything you read in the media.  It doesn't take much intelligence to know that the same rich and powerful people that own the media are the same rich and powerful people that also control much of the government and the media, and it's all related.  So alot of this Al Queda wants to blow up the world stuff you believe is just good old fashioned scare tactics and fear mongering that is used to rally people to war.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J Bananas on November 23, 2005, 04:20:14 PM
Because Al Queda hates our freedom, jk.   Innocent people are bound to be lost as part of any attack, how many innocent sand people u think are losing their lives during our bombings?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Low Key on November 23, 2005, 04:44:34 PM
Okay then why doesn't Al-Queda target government facilities? They kill civilians who have no control over what the hell happens. I didn't do anything to them, why am I cannon fodder?

Man... I don't even know what your talking about, but I'm going to be patient with you, because my own family members (my side of the family) think just like you do, and I have to be patient with them. 

First things first, your life is not in danger.  If you choose to live your whole life in fear than that's your own fault.  There's only been one attack in America, 9-11.  And the targets were the Pentagon, which is a clear attack on the government as the Pentagon is a headquarters for the US Military, and the World Trade Center, which is the headquarters for America's foriegn economic affairs, and most wars today aren't fought on the battle field, they are fought through economics, sanctions, embargo's, there's people powerful enough to press one button and starve a whole village of people. 

Second of all, don't believe everything you read in the media.  It doesn't take much intelligence to know that the same rich and powerful people that own the media are the same rich and powerful people that also control much of the government and the media, and it's all related.  So alot of this Al Queda wants to blow up the world stuff you believe is just good old fashioned scare tactics and fear mongering that is used to rally people to war.

There has been one attack on American soil and I hope it stays that way. However, there have been numerous attacks in other western countries where bombs have gone off on trains and in buses killing many civilians deliberatly. Don't tell me that terrorists have not killed civilians. I DON'T WATCH THE NEWS so save that media fear mongering crap for someone else.

Because Al Queda hates our freedom, jk. Innocent people are bound to be lost as part of any attack, how many innocent sand people u think are losing their lives during our bombings?

You were just kidding, but I wouldn't too far past them. It's not probable that they are doing it for that reason, but we have a different lifestyle here that let's women vote and be heard and where fidelity isn't really high up on the list of morals.

It is unfortunate that innocent Muslims are dying by US bombs, and most Muslims are good people, but casulties happen. The bombs didn't start dropping until terrorist attacks started happening. Like I said before, the bombs would stop dropping if they would just calm down and let the US clean up their mess and leave. I'm sure everyone would prefer that.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Real American on November 23, 2005, 04:47:13 PM
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That is a stupid cartoon. Do you really know any Americans who want death for all Arabs?

It is the people in the Middle East who go to their mosques shouting "Death to America", calling us the great Satan, burn our flags etc. Americans don't do shit like that to them.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Real American on November 23, 2005, 04:53:01 PM

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

Man you need to close your Koran and wake the hell up. The attacks in Iraq aren't just against American forces. The terrorists are bombing Iraqi police, Iraqi politicians, Shiite mosques, etc. That won't step when America leaves.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J Bananas on November 23, 2005, 04:56:34 PM
stupid dumb fucks blaming the US, was Iraq peaceful before we were there? uhh....NO, Shiite and Suni's were killing eachother before we started.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Mr. O on November 23, 2005, 05:03:18 PM
Hey, I was wondering.  If U.S. are training these troops and these iraq soldiers gets killed before they are fully prepared..would that mean..U.S. have to be there and find more people and train them?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J Bananas on November 23, 2005, 05:07:49 PM
Naw man, they have enough troops  at this point where US influence is less needed. In fact forces are about to enter the second phase of the invasion which calls for the beginning of US withdrawl, and Iraqi troops stepping in permanently. Of course, it all depends on Iraqi competency. If they can get their shit together, then we can leave.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Mr. O on November 23, 2005, 05:16:21 PM
Naw man, they have enough troops  at this point where US influence is less needed. In fact forces are about to enter the second phase of the invasion which calls for the beginning of US withdrawl, and Iraqi troops stepping in permanently. Of course, it all depends on Iraqi competency. If they can get their shit together, then we can leave.
oh ok..i see.  But still..we gotta babysit these guys though, right?  I mean..at least..till they are some-what ready, right? 
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J Bananas on November 23, 2005, 05:20:16 PM
Yeah, if you've ever seen that Bhorat skit on the Ali G show, you know how uncoordinated and akward these fucks are. it's gonna be a process.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Mr. O on November 23, 2005, 05:30:16 PM
Yeah, if you've ever seen that Bhorat skit on the Ali G show, you know how uncoordinated and akward these fucks are. it's gonna be a process.
damn...arite..thx
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 23, 2005, 07:33:33 PM

Man, turn off your television and use your brain.  It's precisely because of US military involvement and occupation in Iraq that there are attacks, not the other way around.  You got it backwards.

Man you need to close your Koran and wake the hell up. The attacks in Iraq aren't just against American forces. The terrorists are bombing Iraqi police, Iraqi politicians, Shiite mosques, etc. That won't step when America leaves.

Don't start with me.  Stay in your place.  The US military is trying to get Iraqi police officers to fight the for them, and do their dirty work.  So that they can be the one's gettin capped, while the US sits back and controls the situation from the Green Zone, all the while, collecting fat checks off of Iraq's oil wealth.  You know that, and I know that.  So there are Iraqi's who are willing to fight their own people to get a few dollars from the US Occupation forces, so obviously these Iraqi's are going to be viewed as hypocrites by the resistance fighters and they are going to end gettin a cap in their ass. 

This is simple.  Don't act stupid.  I know your not stupid.  Your just a scared little boy, either that or a racist white supremist.  One of the two.  At the very best, your a nationalist.  I'll give you that.  But if we are viewing the situation from a global perspective then you know America is the aggressor. 
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 23, 2005, 07:36:40 PM
I know your not stupid.

CWalker? LOL That Pollack is as dumb as they come.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 23, 2005, 07:46:10 PM
I know your not stupid.

CWalker? LOL That Pollack is as dumb as they come.

Yes and no.  He is the best at articulating the Right Wing/Republican/Conservative/Zionist Christian point of view on this forum, so that has to count for something.  Obviously he lacks maturity, emotional, human, and social intelligence, and he is very ignorant and selfish when it comes to people of other cultures and countries.  But, let's give him that, he is better than any of the other guys at articulating his point of view. For one thing, he is very upfront, give him that.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Real American on November 23, 2005, 08:25:11 PM

Don't start with me.  Stay in your place.  The US military is trying to get Iraqi police officers to fight the for them, and do their dirty work.  So that they can be the one's gettin capped, while the US sits back and controls the situation from the Green Zone, all the while, collecting fat checks off of Iraq's oil wealth.  You know that, and I know that.  So there are Iraqi's who are willing to fight their own people to get a few dollars from the US Occupation forces, so obviously these Iraqi's are going to be viewed as hypocrites by the resistance fighters and they are going to end gettin a cap in their ass. 

This is simple.  Don't act stupid.  I know your not stupid.  Your just a scared little boy, either that or a racist white supremist.  One of the two.  At the very best, your a nationalist.  I'll give you that.  But if we are viewing the situation from a global perspective then you know America is the aggressor. 

You glossed over one important part of what I said.

The insurgents, terrorists, whatever you want to call them....they are trying to cause a civil war in Iraq between the Shiites and Sunnis. That is why the Sunnis keep bombing and attacking Shiite mosques and killings tons of innocent people. They are mad because the Shiites have gained power in the new government. That hostility will not disappear when the Americans leave.

Please educate yourself. And take that photo of that murderer out of your profile while you are at it.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on November 24, 2005, 03:55:55 AM


You glossed over one important part of what I said.

The insurgents, terrorists, whatever you want to call them....they are trying to cause a civil war in Iraq between the Shiites and Sunnis. That is why the Sunnis keep bombing and attacking Shiite mosques and killings tons of innocent people. They are mad because the Shiites have gained power in the new government. That hostility will not disappear when the Americans leave.

Please educate yourself. And take that photo of that murderer out of your profile while you are at it.

You really fall for that?  America claiming that they are really in Iraq because they are trying to prevent a civil war between Shiites and Sunni's from happening?  You really believe that that's their reason for being there.  Come on man.  Atleast admit that that's nothing but political game. 

America wants a civil war to occur in Iraq.  Like I said before, they want to get the Iraqi's killing eachother, take the focus off the American troops and justify their reason for being there at the same time, meanwhile they can chill at the American embassy and keep collecting oil wealth, etc.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on November 24, 2005, 04:32:41 AM

Don't start with me.  Stay in your place.  The US military is trying to get Iraqi police officers to fight the for them, and do their dirty work.  So that they can be the one's gettin capped, while the US sits back and controls the situation from the Green Zone, all the while, collecting fat checks off of Iraq's oil wealth.  You know that, and I know that.  So there are Iraqi's who are willing to fight their own people to get a few dollars from the US Occupation forces, so obviously these Iraqi's are going to be viewed as hypocrites by the resistance fighters and they are going to end gettin a cap in their ass. 

This is simple.  Don't act stupid.  I know your not stupid.  Your just a scared little boy, either that or a racist white supremist.  One of the two.  At the very best, your a nationalist.  I'll give you that.  But if we are viewing the situation from a global perspective then you know America is the aggressor. 

You glossed over one important part of what I said.

The insurgents, terrorists, whatever you want to call them....they are trying to cause a civil war in Iraq between the Shiites and Sunnis. That is why the Sunnis keep bombing and attacking Shiite mosques and killings tons of innocent people. They are mad because the Shiites have gained power in the new government. That hostility will not disappear when the Americans leave.

Please educate yourself. And take that photo of that murderer out of your profile while you are at it.
For the first the insurgents are 90 to 95 percent iraqis and the rest are foreign fighters that are making the more "spectacular" attacks like suicid bombings and kidnappings etc. How would you feel if somebody invaded your country? wouldn't you resist?? And thanks to the american invasion the first people that lived in iraq the christian assyrians are almost totally extinct..Atleast during Saddam Hussein they had security and they where even part of the goverment. But this is a war for oil and for the americans to get control over the middle east, not for liberating a people
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on November 24, 2005, 04:40:47 AM
this topic has been taken off course.

the discussion about muslims wanting to run a country through terror blowing up the other muslims trying to stabilise their country thorugh some kind of cooperation and control (i.e. claw back control from the americans if you want to look at it like that) belongs elsewhere.

the question was.. should america just drop _everything_ and leave it as a civil war zone with no established government in power...  ?

in my view i've stated.. the answer is they wont.. because terrorist muslm factions (who couldnt get enough votes?) are trying to bully their agenda through violence instead of following a diplomatic course that of course most muslims dont understand. IMO they're used to control through fear.. so they're trying to make themselves the feared entity.

Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 24, 2005, 10:04:45 AM
instead of following a diplomatic course that of course most muslims dont understand.

 ???
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 24, 2005, 11:09:33 AM
Stepped-up attacks in Iraq over the past two days have killed at least 44 Iraqis, including 12 labourers, five of them brothers, who were shot and killed at a construction site.


In addition, the bodies of eight Iraqis who apparently were abducted and killed in captivity, were found in the capital on Monday, police said.

Monday's worst attack occurred in the Saydiya area of southwestern Baghdad when armed men opened fire at two civilian cars, killing three of the municipal workers they were carrying and an Iraqi passerby, said police Captain Talib Thamir.

A car bomber killed two Iraqis and wounded five in an attack on a police patrol in the northeastern neighbourhood of al-Shaab, where fighters had seized and murdered a defence lawyer in Saddam Hussein's trial last week, said police Lieutenant Malik Sultan.

Armed men opened fire on an Iraqi army checkpoint in western Baghdad, killing a soldier and a girl who was standing in front of her nearby house, said police.

In two other attacks in the capital, a drive-by shooting killed one policeman, and two others were wounded by a roadside bomb, the authorities said.

Kurdish politician wounded

In Kirkuk, 290km north of Baghdad, a roadside bomb exploded at 8.30am (0500 GMT) near a car carrying Ibrahim Zangana, a senior member of Iraq's Kurdish Democratic Party, seriously wounding him, killing one of his bodyguards and injuring another one, said Brigadier-General Sarhat Qadir, the commander of Kirkuk's police force.

Another drive-by shooting, this one in Mosul, 360km northwest of Baghdad, killed a policeman. On Sunday, more than 33 Iraqis died in a swell of violence in Iraq, including 12 labourers, five of them brothers, who were shot dead by armed men at a construction site outside the city of Hilla, about 95km south of Baghdad, police said.

The corpses of eight Iraqis, five men and three women, also were found in three different areas of Baghdad on Monday morning, police said.

All of them apparently had been abducted and tied up or handcuffed before being shot to death.


That a day ,in no way has america improved the situation in iraq.Non of these attacks would happen if US OCCUPATION didn't start

Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 24, 2005, 12:04:11 PM
I have this utopian vision as for the U.S moving onto the next autocracy in the middle east untill its leadership is defused and so on and so on untill every middle eastern dictatorship can establish a democratic foundation so there will be no shift of resources by these oil drenched indefinite power possessing dictators to all kinds of terrorist groups who undermine world peace with their Jihad agendas.


p.s Well we all know it's quite unrealistic since there are factors(states to be exact) in the western world that are interested in instability due to financial considerations.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 24, 2005, 01:51:01 PM
I have this utopian vision as for the U.S moving onto the next autocracy in the middle east untill its leadership is defused and so on and so on untill every middle eastern dictatorship can establish a democratic foundation so there will be no shift of resources by these oil drenched indefinite power possessing dictators to all kinds of terrorist groups who undermine world peace with their Jihad agendas.


p.s Well we all know it's quite unrealistic since there are factors(states to be exact) in the western world that are interested in instability due to financial considerations.
Well easy for u to say,this would really be a big fuck up,know ,it's only desperate people would blow themselves up,if the whole middleast is invaded u will have 250 mill people who are ready to die for thier countries.


can establish a democratic foundation -----up ur ass,u isrealis only want ur promised land (from egypt to iraq) and u don't give a damn how many people die.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 12:43:40 AM
I have this utopian vision as for the U.S moving onto the next autocracy in the middle east untill its leadership is defused and so on and so on untill every middle eastern dictatorship can establish a democratic foundation so there will be no shift of resources by these oil drenched indefinite power possessing dictators to all kinds of terrorist groups who undermine world peace with their Jihad agendas.


p.s Well we all know it's quite unrealistic since there are factors(states to be exact) in the western world that are interested in instability due to financial considerations.
Well easy for u to say,this would really be a big fuck up,know ,it's only desperate people would blow themselves up,if the whole middleast is invaded u will have 250 mill people who are ready to die for thier countries.


can establish a democratic foundation -----up ur ass,u isrealis only want ur promised land (from egypt to iraq) and u don't give a damn how many people die.

This is what you don't get my friend there is no such thing as 250 mill people who are ready to die for their country there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships and there is a small percentage of brainwashed people that comply to terrorist groups (sponsored by these same leaderships) whose main intension is to produce the fear you've got rooted in you,through these gigantic terrorist acts(in proportion, it takes very little to blow up even the biggest building), this delusion you have, about these millions of "blindly patriotic" people who are 100% fond of what their evil dictator is doing,it is ridiculous(but then again many people are suffering from the same delusion)- WAKE UP, far from every Muslim is a radical fundamentalist, I guess you should know this :).
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 25, 2005, 01:02:09 AM
there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships

Yes that's true, but don't forget to mention the people dying because some terrorist state being formed on their land. You should know, you live there.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Seer on November 25, 2005, 01:26:19 AM
instead of following a diplomatic course that of course most muslims dont understand.

 ???

the population of iraq doesnt get democracy.. they have been brought up under fear.. their view of people with "power" is that they beat and mistreat the proletariat.  they're used to being ruled with an iron fist, not through ruling themselves..

left to themselves i'm sure after a long brutal war between the groups there one would gain control.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 01:46:43 AM
there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships

Yes that's true, but don't forget to mention the people dying because some terrorist state being formed on their land. You should know, you live there.

Not really the topic but ok. Is it a terrorist state because it is defending its existence? Is it a terrorist state for trying to defend its citizens from being murdered?
under which circumstances did it capture land since the dawn of its formal existence?
How many of its citizens were killed under the supervision of its own authorities? what terrorist state are you talking about? One that is currently "being formed"?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 25, 2005, 01:54:57 AM
there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships

Yes that's true, but don't forget to mention the people dying because some terrorist state being formed on their land. You should know, you live there.

Not really the topic but ok. Is it a terrorist state because it is defending its existence? Is it a terrorist state for trying to defend its citizens from being murdered?
under which circumstances did it capture land since the dawn of its formal existence?
How many of its citizens were killed under the supervision of its own authorities? what terrorist state are you talking about? One that is currently "being formed"?


Defending its citizens and its existence by shooting 3-10 year old girls? Occupied territories? Let's not ask how many of its own citizens it has killed, but rather how many Palestinians? I'm talking about the state of Israel, of course.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 25, 2005, 02:05:40 AM
I can see your next post:

"Why do you REFUSE to look at the number of Palestinians that have died as a result of their own leadership? You're a victim to Palestinian propaganda and you're anti-Semitic. I don't care about facts."

LOL.. save it for someone else.

I have already stated that Palestinian leadership has at times failed its own people, but the fact that you're dumb too see that they have also been victims of Zionism to a far greater extent is astounding.

Let me ask you something...  "A land without people for a people without land"...
Propaganda or no?




Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 02:38:01 AM
I can see your next post:

"Why do you REFUSE to look at the number of Palestinians that have died as a result of their own leadership? You're a victim to Palestinian propaganda and you're anti-Semitic. I don't care about facts."

LOL.. save it for someone else.

I have already stated that Palestinian leadership has at times failed its own people, but the fact that you're dumb too see that they have also been victims of Zionism to a far greater extent is astounding.

Let me ask you something...  "A land without people for a people without land"...
Propaganda or no?






"A land without people"->inaccuracy since there WERE people on this land, as there were on most lands, but they weren't A PEOPLE, up untill they were manipulated into an elaborate political scheme pioneered by totalitarian Arab interests to unify their territories into a form of "United (totalitarian) Arab Empire" free of obstructions.
"people without land"->True up until 1948.

Herzel had never really been to Eretz Yisrael so I'm not surprised he wasn't very familiar with the demography but Jabotinsky strove to reach an agreement with the 'indigenous' population. It is interesting how you are much more fixated on Herzel's utopian statements rather than on the statements of Zionist activists who were in fact responsible for the physical creation of Israel.

If you choose to classify it as propaganda then it is very poor at that since the people who were suppose to be influenced by it did the exact opposite.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 25, 2005, 02:44:19 AM
You summed up Israel's and the Zionists' propaganda in one word: INACCURACY.

Good job, you have finally learned something.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 03:42:45 AM
You summed up Israel's and the Zionists' propaganda in one word: INACCURACY.

Good job, you have finally learned something.

Well yea, in fact I have, I've learned you reckon Theodore Herzel to be a propaganda mogul while disregarding the term Palestinian propaganda(as if it didn't exist).

How could he have promoted anti-Palestinian propaganda when at his time Palestinians didn't even exist? lol guy honestly thought this land was empty of inhabitants....
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 25, 2005, 05:58:35 AM
how can u say palestinians didn't exist when the country was called palestine just because it was ruled by other countries doesn;t mean it wasn't the rightful land of the inhabitants.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 25, 2005, 07:11:15 AM
instead of following a diplomatic course that of course most muslims dont understand.

 ???

the population of iraq doesnt get democracy.. they have been brought up under fear.. their view of people with "power" is that they beat and mistreat the proletariat.  they're used to being ruled with an iron fist, not through ruling themselves..

left to themselves i'm sure after a long brutal war between the groups there one would gain control.


re: iraq ure right, but u mentioned muslims as a whole, and u did so in a very polemic manner, meaning u are not providing a greater context to that statement. rather generalizing dont u think?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 25, 2005, 07:53:36 AM
WAKE UP, far from every Muslim is a radical fundamentalist

,so if someone is not a muslim,that means he won't fight against an occupation to his country.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 07:55:42 AM
how can u say palestinians didn't exist when the country was called palestine just because it was ruled by other countries doesn;t mean it wasn't the rightful land of the inhabitants.

Again you're having trouble with the order of events. The land was not named after the Palestinians, the Palestinians were named after the land(The term 'Palestinian' was coined based on the name of the land to psychologically link an arbitrary group of people to this land) and I wonder how you can even argue on the issue of entitlement to the land without knowing such basic facts.


*Palestine
The term “Palestine” is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., the Romans crushed the revolt of Shimon Bar Kokhba (132 CE), during which Jerusalem and Judea were regained. Three years later, Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) was renamed Palaestina in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the Land of Israel. The Arabic word “Filastin” is derived from this Latin name.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 08:10:44 AM
WAKE UP, far from every Muslim is a radical fundamentalist

,so if someone is not a muslim,that means he won't fight against an occupation to his country.

Occupation? Wouldn't you define their current lives as lives under occupation?- well it's not an occupation by an outsider but an occupation indeed and more importantly from within their country by their autocratic governmental establishment. If anything, such "occupation"  would only free them from the binds of their confined being.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 25, 2005, 02:19:58 PM
If anything, such "occupation"  would only free them from the binds of their confined being.

Easy for you to say. After all, you live in a country that is currently occupying the land of other people, so we can see where you get this positive outlook on occupation from.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: J @ M @ L on November 25, 2005, 02:33:06 PM
How could he have promoted anti-Palestinian propaganda when at his time Palestinians didn't even exist? lol guy honestly thought this land was empty of inhabitants....

It wasn't anti-Palestinian propaganda, you tool. It was Zionist propaganda and you have just proven that you're a victim. You think if the Zionists did it then, they wouldn't do it now? Your country was established on propaganda, and it continues to thrive on propaganda. I know not every Israeli citizen is as dumb and gullible as you. It's official like a referee with a whistle: You're a brainwashed tool who blindly supports the terrorist state of Israel.

Stop whining about anti-Semitism when somebody criticizes Israel's actions because you look like a little bitch.
Instead of whining, just go grab a gun and run outside to kill some Palestinian kids... take your frustration out that way... I mean, it's not like the terrorist government of Israel is going find you guilty of anything... as seen from the article.  :)




Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 25, 2005, 02:52:18 PM
WAKE UP, far from every Muslim is a radical fundamentalist

,so if someone is not a muslim,that means he won't fight against an occupation to his country.

Occupation? Wouldn't you define their current lives as lives under occupation?- well it's not an occupation by an outsider but an occupation indeed and more importantly from within their country by their autocratic governmental establishment. If anything, such "occupation" would only free them from the binds of their confined being.

wat the fuck are u talking about,i lived in 3 different arab countries,and in non did i feel under an occupation,before going on about other countries problems u don't know about.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Javier on November 25, 2005, 08:23:33 PM
"Administration Seems Willing to Conceive Iraq Withdrawal
By Paul Richter and Tyler Marshall, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON -- Even as debate over the Iraq war continues to rage, signs are emerging of a convergence of opinion on how the Bush administration might begin to get out of the conflict.

In a departure from past statements, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said this week that the training of Iraqi troops has advanced so far that the current number of U.S. troops probably will not be needed for much longer.

President Bush will give a major speech Wednesday at the U.S. Naval Academy in which aides say he is expected to proclaim the improved readiness of Iraqi troops, which he has identified as the key condition for withdrawing U.S. forces."


from L.A Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-withdraw26nov26,0,4761481.story?coll=la-home-headlines
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 04:44:30 AM
WAKE UP, far from every Muslim is a radical fundamentalist

,so if someone is not a muslim,that means he won't fight against an occupation to his country.

Occupation? Wouldn't you define their current lives as lives under occupation?- well it's not an occupation by an outsider but an occupation indeed and more importantly from within their country by their autocratic governmental establishment. If anything, such "occupation" would only free them from the binds of their confined being.
wat the fuck are u talking about,i lived in 3 different arab countries,and in non did i feel under an occupation,before going on about other countries problems u don't know about.

I wonder which countries are those, do you mind telling me?
And as I said there is a (quote):

small percentage of brainwashed people

what could explain why you didn't feel "under an occupation".
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 06:12:43 AM
It wasn't anti-Palestinian  propaganda. It was Zionist propaganda

Really?


But didn't you say that:

The problem isn't even Sharon or any of these other fucktards... it's the nature of Zionist ideology

.
.
.
On what ground then do you oppose the nature of the Zionist ideology when the person reckoned to be somewhat of a catalyst of the entire Jewish self-determination movement(Zionism) did not have any anti-Palestinian agenda? On what ground do you side the main catalysts of the Palestinian self-determination who clearly did have blatant anti-Jewish agendas from the start of their formal self-proclamation as " A PEOPLE"?


What you're saying is that even if there was no such thing as "Palestinians" you would still be against Israel's existence due to:

Zionism- Jewish  movement that has had as it's goal the creation and support of a Jewish national state in (what was known as) Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew:"Eretz Yisrael"-The Land Of Israel).

even though you claim that you're not against Israel's existence:

Then YOU say that I want Israel off the world's map.... which is complete bullshit

while also claiming that Israel is a :

terrorist state

and while saying you're against terrorism

So does anyone else see a contradiction here?
before arguing you should first decide on what you're trying to prove and to whom.


 







Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 26, 2005, 06:38:21 AM
It wasn't anti-Palestinian  propaganda. It was Zionist propaganda

Really?


But didn't you say that:

The problem isn't even Sharon or any of these other fucktards... it's the nature of Zionist ideology

.
.
.
On what ground then do you oppose the nature of the Zionist ideology when the person reckoned to be somewhat of a catalyst of the entire Jewish self-determination movement(Zionism) did not have any anti-Palestinian agenda? On what ground do you side the main catalysts of the Palestinian self-determination who clearly did have blatant anti-Jewish agendas from the start of their formal self-proclamation as " A PEOPLE"?
what do you expect jews colonized there land, and u also neglect the fact that jews have always had the same anti palestinian agendas and to this day continue to try and stop palestinian state hood
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 06:55:04 AM
u also neglect the fact  that jews have always had the same anti palestinian agendas

It wasn't anti-Palestinian  propaganda. It was Zionist propaganda


Well well, what do you know, you two seem to have a disagreement here  :D

 Don Rizzle, literally raping such concepts as "fact" and "always" doesn't look very good even for somone with your insufficient knowledge on the topic at hand.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 26, 2005, 07:13:53 AM
Kuwait
UAE
Egypt

So how many arab countries have u been to,or did u travel there with ur tv channels
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 08:15:24 AM
I've been to the Palestinian Autonomy for a few times during my army service, but since I'm an Israeli citizen, visiting Arab countries is not quite the best idea for a hobby being that I still wanna keep my life ;) Do any of the Arabs that live and work within Israel need to worry for their lives while in Israel?-NO(I have Arab friends in college). Again something you'll simply choose to ignore.


How long did you live in each? and where do you live right now?
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 26, 2005, 10:36:19 AM
EGYPT - 4 YEARS
UAE - 3 YEARS
KUWAIT - 9 YEARS
thats my 1st year in montreal
I've been to the Palestinian Autonomy for a few times during my army service, but since I'm an Israeli citizen, visiting Arab countries is not quite the best idea for a hobby being that I still wanna keep my life ;) Do any of the Arabs that live and work within Israel need to worry for their lives while in Israel?-NO(I have Arab friends in college). Again something you'll simply choose to ignore.


How long did you live in each? and where do you live right now?

In Kuwait there isn't a lot of isrealis,In egypt all you have to do is go to sinai,to find isrealis,they are n't welcomed,and don't tell me arabs are welcomed in isreal.
U was in the army,how many girls did u kill ??????'

Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 10:42:25 AM
EGYPT - 4 YEARS
UAE - 3 YEARS
KUWAIT - 9 YEARS

I've been to the Palestinian Autonomy for a few times during my army service, but since I'm an Israeli citizen, visiting Arab countries is not quite the best idea for a hobby being that I still wanna keep my life ;) Do any of the Arabs that live and work within Israel need to worry for their lives while in Israel?-NO(I have Arab friends in college). Again something you'll simply choose to ignore.


How long did you live in each? and where do you live right now?

In Kuwait there isn't a lot of isrealis,In egypt all you have to do is go to sinai,to find isrealis,they are n't welcomed,and don't tell me arabs are welcomed in isreal.
U was in the army,how many girls did u kill ??????

Yea, I doubt there are any Israelis in Kuwait . Thank you for reinforcing my point as for Israelis not being welcome in the Arab world.
As for Arabs in Israel: 20% of Israel's population is Arab FYI, and many citizens of the PA work within Israel.

You haven't told me where you live now.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 26, 2005, 10:44:07 AM
montreal

wat do u feel when a women walking with the islamic turban in isreal---don't tell me u wanna welcome her to isreal.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 10:52:16 AM
and I've never killed anyone as well( not in Nablus neither in Ramallah, nor in Hebron), although I did help supplying a few of them with an option to work within Israel's borders, since Mr. Arafat was for some reason very interested in stimulating unemployment within the Autonomy and that is despite the enormous amounts of support money he received during (and subsequently to) Oslo.

This is to answer your question as for my 'killing biography'.^^

And as for turbans....Well, I wish you visited my college mate, I bet you'd feel at home- plenty of Muslim girls with turbans.

Shouldn't talk about things you don't really know, and you shouldn't base your views on propaganda.

And it is interesting that right now you live in Canada being that it's so great to live under totalitrian regimes.
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: Kassem on November 26, 2005, 11:20:15 AM
and I've never killed anyone as well( not in Nablus neither in Ramallah, nor in Hebron), although I did help supplying a few of them with an option to work within Israel's borders, since Mr. Arafat was for some reason very interested in stimulating unemployment within the Autonomy and that is despite the enormous amounts of support money he received during (and subsequently to) Oslo.

This is to answer your question as for my 'killing biography'.^^

And as for turbans....Well, I wish you visited my college mate, I bet you'd feel at home- plenty of Muslim girls with turbans.

Shouldn't talk about things you don't really know, and you shouldn't base your views on propaganda.

And it is interesting that right now you live in Canada being that it's so great to live under totalitrian regimes.
u should also visit old cairo,a lot of people with the pancakes u put on ur heads,thats not the point.
read the question --(what do u feel) not how many is there
Title: Re: You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 26, 2005, 11:40:29 AM
u should also visit old cairo,a lot of people with the pancakes u put on ur heads,thats not the point.
read the question --(what do u feel) not how many is there

What do I feel? I have friends who are religious Muslims, usually I'm thinking:"hmmm there's a Muslim girl". About 30%-40% of the students are Muslim.

And again I thank you for proving to be a miserable brainwashed dude lol@pancakes.