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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: youngmessnucca on December 04, 2005, 09:03:13 PM
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im suprised noone caught this ( or if they did my bad ) but in the credits of the D&YG II Kurupt is not credited for writing on any song but D. Arnaurd ( Daz ) is . If im not mistaken Ricardo Brown is Kurupts name and its nowhere to be found insted a D. Williams is credited and the publishing is credited to Scoldie Mac which Im sure has to be Roscoe.....anyone got info on this?
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someone mentioned a while back that roscoe and tristar were writing for kurupt. if this is true i think it reflects a sad state of affairs for young gotti. i don't see why he can't write for himself. i had always felt that if he spent some time seriously writing his rhymes and not just freestyling that he could return to greatness.
kurupt may be like mike tyson in this regard. when tyson was young, he'd stay in shape and train year round. towards the end of his career he lost his hunger, and would go through a six week training bootcamp before a fight to get in shape for a fight. all the while letting his natural skill deteriorate and relying on one punch knocc outs. similarly, it seems kurupt has allowed his lyrical skill to deteriorate; rather than staying sharp and improving his craft
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no wonder his shit is getting better all of a sudden! lol it sounded like he was freestyleing on some songs though......and we saw him writing his verse on push back, not mention snoop was talking about when they first came back togethor how tight kurupt was coming and i doubt he woulda said that if someone else was writing his shit
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no wonder his shit is getting better all of a sudden! lol it sounded like he was freestyleing on some songs though...
hell yeah. after jay-z made that claim that he never wrote down his rhymes and kept them all in his head, it seemed like kurupt decided to switch up and freestyle everything
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kurupt, roscoe, and tri all fell off. even eastwood aint what he used to be. im not lookin forward to Y.A. at all anymore
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I never was looking forward to Y.A. :P
nothin against em but they're real boring.... I like Roscoe and I think Tri is just whatever and then the rest of them are nothin at all, real boring
as far as Kurupt, I don't know about him, it's very strange how he can't really hold his own anymore, most puzzling shit to me... :eh:
what the fuck happened? I mean he is starting to come with okay shit but it doesn't flow ya know?
like you hear a lot of pauses and instances where he'll end a rhyme and you'll say to yourself "damn he coulda ended that so much better" :P
it's just you listen to "New York, New York" and I think that's the tightest shit ever written, it's all in depth shit that makes sense and rhymes and flows perfect
I'm not in any way saying "why can't he duplicate that shit" but you'd think of all the dope shit he's done he could at least come a lot better than he does today ???
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^ i used to think he switched up his style so he could make more commercial friendly music ("We Can Freak It", "Girls All Pause", "Its Over"), but now he's just gettin ridiculous
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Is it possible that he isn't credited because someone owns his publishing and Kurupt wouldn't see a dime if his name appeared in the credits? Or maybe he owes some money to the bank or someone else and anything from his publishing would go straight to that person?
Maybe that's why he prefers Roscoe to get all the dough?
I simply cannot believe someone could fall off like that, I mean - not a single song written by Kurupt himself?
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kurupt, roscoe, and tri all fell off. even eastwood aint what he used to be. im not lookin forward to Y.A. at all anymore
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im suprised noone caught this ( or if they did my bad ) but in the credits of the D&YG II Kurupt is not credited for writing on any song but D. Arnaurd ( Daz ) is . If im not mistaken Ricardo Brown is Kurupts name and its nowhere to be found insted a D. Williams is credited and the publishing is credited to Scoldie Mac which Im sure has to be Roscoe.....anyone got info on this?
"ricardo brown" isnt kurupts real name, its a pseudonym jus like "kurupt"
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im suprised noone caught this ( or if they did my bad ) but in the credits of the D&YG II Kurupt is not credited for writing on any song but D. Arnaurd ( Daz ) is . If im not mistaken Ricardo Brown is Kurupts name and its nowhere to be found insted a D. Williams is credited and the publishing is credited to Scoldie Mac which Im sure has to be Roscoe.....anyone got info on this?
"ricardo brown" isnt kurupts real name, its a pseudonym jus like "kurupt"
na a really do think its his real name
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Is it possible that he isn't credited because someone owns his publishing and Kurupt wouldn't see a dime if his name appeared in the credits? Or maybe he owes some money to the bank or someone else and anything from his publishing would go straight to that person?
Maybe that's why he prefers Roscoe to get all the dough?
I simply cannot believe someone could fall off like that, I mean - not a single song written by Kurupt himself?
i think your spot on there, of course kurupt would have wrote most if not all his lyrics onnit, but isnt that why his album coming out next year is under the name young gotti, i dont know 4 sure but i think that could be the reasoning. :-\
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im suprised noone caught this ( or if they did my bad ) but in the credits of the D&YG II Kurupt is not credited for writing on any song but D. Arnaurd ( Daz ) is . If im not mistaken Ricardo Brown is Kurupts name and its nowhere to be found insted a D. Williams is credited and the publishing is credited to Scoldie Mac which Im sure has to be Roscoe.....anyone got info on this?
"ricardo brown" isnt kurupts real name, its a pseudonym jus like "kurupt"
I have never, ever heard that before, and I doubt it's true. You're gonna need some kinda source to back that one up with.
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someone mentioned a while back that roscoe and tristar were writing for kurupt. if this is true i think it reflects a sad state of affairs for young gotti. i don't see why he can't write for himself. i had always felt that if he spent some time seriously writing his rhymes and not just freestyling that he could return to greatness.
kurupt may be like mike tyson in this regard. when tyson was young, he'd stay in shape and train year round. towards the end of his career he lost his hunger, and would go through a six week training bootcamp before a fight to get in shape for a fight. all the while letting his natural skill deteriorate and relying on one punch knocc outs. similarly, it seems kurupt has allowed his lyrical skill to deteriorate; rather than staying sharp and improving his craft
Word.
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someone mentioned a while back that roscoe and tristar were writing for kurupt. if this is true i think it reflects a sad state of affairs for young gotti. i don't see why he can't write for himself. i had always felt that if he spent some time seriously writing his rhymes and not just freestyling that he could return to greatness.
kurupt may be like mike tyson in this regard. when tyson was young, he'd stay in shape and train year round. towards the end of his career he lost his hunger, and would go through a six week training bootcamp before a fight to get in shape for a fight. all the while letting his natural skill deteriorate and relying on one punch knocc outs. similarly, it seems kurupt has allowed his lyrical skill to deteriorate; rather than staying sharp and improving his craft
^co fuckin sign. I mean every artist have their prime, but kurupt is a special case. He has fallen off hard...I mean its like god fuckin damn :-X ??? :'(. I believe he fell off cuz of his label situation in terms of promotion and marketing which completely killed his motivation. Its like he felt that he would be wasting classic verses if he wasn't reaching the mass audience. A good example of this is deathrow-he made sure he was on his A game plus after Kuruption flopped; he really got motivated again to make a great album(Streetz Iz A Mutha, west coast classic) only for his idiotic label to drop it on the same day as Chronic 2001. Then with space boogie he went commercial to try to sell, but when that failed I could see kurupt saying "fuck it what else can I do". That's when he went bankrupt and joined deathrow in that same year I believe.
I strongly believe it is 80% motivation rather than time that has killed his skills. Look at Dogg Food(1995) and Streetz Iz A Mutha(1999). After four years he was still able to bring his A game and show improvement. I believe he can still do it.
I guess it comes down to if he wants to be remembered as one of the greatest lyricists and mcs ever, even though underground. :-\
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^^ co-sign
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I haven't given up on him just yet, although I'm getting sick of all of his bizarre neo-Nazi raps. ''Holocaust native'', ''Gotti Bin Laden'', and I'm sure he kicked some lyrics about Hitler, but anyway, all of that shit just sounds plain retarded and wrong. I'm not saying he should go back to straight 'G' lyricism, but he has taken a serious step down with that kind of subject matter. There's a few exceptions - he came tight on "DPGC Muzic'', even if it wasn't the most lyrical track he's recorded. Maybe he's doing an Eminem and trying to perfect his flow at the expense of his lyrics, which are now his weakest point IMO.
In one of the interviews I've read of his recently (can't remember where) he said something like he'd heard the fans noise and he was going to give them the classic Kurupt we're all checking for on his next album. Just have to keep our fingers crossed, I guess...
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I haven't given up on him just yet
''Holocaust native'', ''Gotti Bin Laden'', and I'm sure he kicked some lyrics about Hitler
yep, I've heard "Gotti Adolf Hitler" :laugh:
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i think its this whole thing with antra.
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I never was looking forward to Y.A. :P
nothin against em but they're real boring.... I like Roscoe and I think Tri is just whatever and then the rest of them are nothin at all, real boring
as far as Kurupt, I don't know about him, it's very strange how he can't really hold his own anymore, most puzzling shit to me... :eh:
what the fuck happened? I mean he is starting to come with okay shit but it doesn't flow ya know?
like you hear a lot of pauses and instances where he'll end a rhyme and you'll say to yourself "damn he coulda ended that so much better" :P
it's just you listen to "New York, New York" and I think that's the tightest shit ever written, it's all in depth shit that makes sense and rhymes and flows perfect
I'm not in any way saying "why can't he duplicate that shit" but you'd think of all the dope shit he's done he could at least come a lot better than he does today ???
yea i heard his pauses on riflemen's "end of the road"....good verse but nuthin great...he coulda definetly done it better...but i still like kurupt
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Proof of how bad Kurupt is losing it...on the DPG TV Preview on D-P-G-C.com Kurupt and Snoop do a little freestyle together and Snoop completely outshines Young Gotti, who comes weak. "XXL" need to tell Kurupt to step his rap game up!