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Title: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 10, 2006, 11:20:15 PM
I was just addin on to a similar post in Outbound connections, titled "A LOT of rap facts", and I ended up addin enough to where I decided to make this post over on this board. As I stated on there, these are all things that I have learned from various sources, and the only ones that are skeptical and not 100% are those in which I let it be known that I wasn't 100% sure.

Feel free to add on.

-Actor De'Aundre Bonds who played Stacey in The Wood, as well as Three Strikes (the one who got shot in the ass) is currently in jail for stabbing his auntie's boyfriend. My boy heard the story from somebody who knew him, and said that his aunt's boyfriend was drunk and was either hittin his aunt or cussin her out, and they started fightin. He is in jail for 11 years. I donno if he gangbanged, but he grew up and still lived near Avalon and 117th, which is probably considered as Watts or Compton.

-Ray-J is known for bein from Carson Centerview Piru. This set is located in a pretty nice, middle class black neighborhood, but shit still goes down over there. There are hundreds of rumors about him being beat up...everywhere from The Lakewood Mall, Carson Mall, Cerritos Mall, to Gardena High school and Skate Depot in Cerritos. The only one I know is factual is the one at Gardena High, which is where most people in my neighborhood goes to school. One of his younger homeboys from Certerview must have had problems with people at school, and Ray-J came up there to "save him" or whatever, and ended up gettin beat up. I was on the same plane as he was this past weekend, goin from LAX to Tampa. I think he was goin to NY, maybe to film for BET.

-Omarion and Houston went to Hamilton High in LA, which was shown on BET when Ludacris performed there once. Word is that Omarion was coo but was R&B'd and Hollywood as hell when he was there, just as he is now. I hear that Houston was one of those dudes who was "always singin" around campus, and was a simp to whatever girl he was talkin to. A friend of mine saw Omarion at an autograph signing, and said that he did some of the coldest shit he had ever seen from a celebrity. He said that he was signin a CD for this fat girl, and she was like "ooooh Omarion I love you, I have all your CDs and posters....could I please just give you a hug???" and he was like no....but immediately after this girl left, a fine girl was in line, and he stood up and gave her a hug, which caused the fat girl to cry hysterically.

-Lil Fizz from B2K went to the same high school as me, Bishop Montgomery in Torrance, and was only there for 3/4s of his freshman year. To me, he was real coo and we used to clown and he would always wanna battle rap me. He was real good in basketball even though he was only like 4'10 or 5 feet tall. For typical reasons, most people who went to school with him and were in his grade seem to hate on him and tell everybody he was a loser, was weird, and was cocky, but he was always cool with me, maybe because I was older. I know that he fuck'd Meagan Good a few years ago, before she got big at this level.

-Glasses Malone was signed to Sony for 1.7 Million dollars, which is more than Game was signed to by Aftermath. In celebration, he had a party in December and bought out the entire bar at The Grand Niteclub downtown in LA. Although many people hadn't heard of Glasses until recently, he had been in the local rap scene for a few years. Ironically, he personally knew Dr. Dre through Neff-U and Neff's uncle Chuck, and when Dre first told him that he signed a rapper from Compton named "The Game", he had no idea who The Game was.

-First Game....then Bishop...then Glasses....who's next? Word on the streets is that the next LA rapper to be signed to a major might be Quiz, who is down with Glasses's brother Pooh's management company "Firing Squad". If not Quiz, it could possibly be Stix, who is part of Watts City and is always hostin different events throughout the nation. DJ Warior, acclaimed West Coast DJ, is hostin Quiz's next mixtape and is pushin it, so we know that it will make some noise. Producers JR and J-Classic are gonna have some tracks on there.

-Bishop Lamont is from the city of Carson, same place as Ras Kass, Ray J, Brandy, Kyla Pratt, and a few others in the game.

-I don't remember the story, but I remember readin an interview sayin that NWA somehow linked up at The Rodium, a large outdoor flea market in Gardena/Torrance. This is the same place that DJ Quik used to sell his underground tapes around LA.

-Murs and 9th Wonder have finished the sequel to their next CD, "Murray's revenge" and I heard it a few weeks ago. It is definitely soundin like a great CD. One thing interesting about it that I didn't notice til Murs brother said it, is that Murs doesn't even curse on the entire CD. My favorite track on there is called "Silly lil girl" and says somethin bout "you didn't want me when I wanted you!" and talks about how females used to act different to him before he blew up. Even though it is 100% finished, it won't be out for a few months.

-Glasses Malone is one of the smartest rappers around, as far as his scholastic performance. He got a 1400 on his SAT, and was offered scholarships to various colleges when he was in high school. It's evident from some of the lines he uses on his songs, even when talkin about gangsta shit. On one track, he said somethin bout how he reps the same color blood is before oxygen hits.

-From talking to different artists in the LA scene, it may sound weird, but one of the most respected gangstas in the game is Hi-C. It may sound strange because he rarely raps about thug or gangsta shit, and is always about females. But people who grew up around him say that nobody could ever even attempt to knock him for his street rep, and that he put it down durin his day.

-Brazil and Wilmington had an interesting situation with the cops last week, and it will most likely be shown on a DVD that they are likely to release in a few weeks. The incident even had helicopters over the base, and they took a few members of B&W and held them for a while.

-J. Wells is not from L.A....he's actually from somewhere in the south or either Chicago. Jelly Roll is also from the south...I think Alabama.

-Kurupt went to Leuzinger High School, which is in the city of Hawthorne that borders Inglewood and Gardena. I don't think he ever got put on the Rollin 60s set, but he lived in their hood for a good while and was definitely down with many of the dudes from there. Thing is, 60s is such a big set, many people from the set don't get along with each other, and this is probably why you may hear rumors of how he's really not from there, how he got put off, or how he gets no respect from them. The only thing I can say from my own eyes is that I was at a picnic with him and many cats from 60s on July 4 back in 2003 at Kenneth Hahn (same park they filmed Nothin but a g thang), and there were definitely many OGs, YGs, BGs, etc. etc. there who were definitely from 60s. I noticed that he wasn't talkin to many of the younger ones though.

-Many people think Baron and Game went to the same high school, but that's definitely not true. Baron went to Crossroads high, a private school in Santa Monica that costs somethin between 10,000 and 15,000 a year. They may have played together on a traveling team or somethin like that. I remember seein Baron play against Verbum Dei High (Andre Miller's school) from Watts back in 96-97. I remember somebody tellin me Baron got a scholarship to go there, and that he definitely didn't have to pay that 10-15 grand a year. Also, I think Baron grew up somewhere in L.A. City and not Compton.

-Stacey Augmon, best known as "The Plastic Man" during his time on the Atlanta Hawks (wore #2), is supposedly from Pasadena Denver Lane Bloods. I have seen him a few times flamed up, such as havin on a Red Phillies Jacket, and I hear that he used to have parties in LA that used to have nothin but bloods there.

-Reggie Bush hosted a Christmas party for the College Fraternity, Kappa Alpha Psi, but he is not a Kappa (well at least he hasn't crossed).

-Word is that Detox was actually finished back in 2003, and that Dre really didn't produce many of the songs, but that he mixed them and added his touch to them all. I hear that the reason it didn't come out is because of somethin behind the scenes with the cats that really did all the beats, who are producers that are known in the rap game but not the ones who may have been expected, such as Scott Storch. I think it was regarding money that Dre was going to pay for their work on the album. I can't certify this as being 100% true, but the person who told me is definitely connected with many people in the game, including Dre.

-Jennifer Lewis, actress from Long Beach most notably from "My wife and Kids" and Neutrogena commercials, is somethin like bi-sexual or even "down low" as a lesbian. I have seen pictures of her hugged up with her ex-girlfriend...and NO, it was not on some buddy buddy friendly shit like many girls do, but was REALLY a homosexual type of picture. Word on the streets is also that she gets around with the opposite sex as well.


-Trevor Ariza and Hassan Adams went to the same High School, Basketball powerhouse Westchester. Many celebrities went to this school, mostly 30+ year old black actors and actresses, as well as deceased actor Phil Hartman.

-Cedar Block, the piru set most known because of Game's affiliation, is a very small-knit set in Compton that is also small in territory size, but is considered to some as part of The Westside Piru alliance or "tree" of sets. Bordering neighborhood sets are such as Treetop, which is most known because of DJ Quik, and Quik grew up a few blocks away from Big Fase.

-Although I have heard some people say that there are some small blood sets or either individual bloods who live in Long Beach, it is still seen as being a city that is 100% crip. Gardena is definitely 100% crip, even though there always seem to be a number of bloods who attend Gardena High. People may see Inglewood as having 100% bloods, but there are actually a number of crip sets located in Inglewood.

-In L.A., there has to be a good 10,000 people who have a story that sounds somethin like this....."I really know Game", "I knew Game", "I used to always see Game", and the list keeps goin and goin. I would never really say I knew him, because I met him and was around him 5-6 times, but I never held a conversation with him. One account that I have heard comes from several people who went to college with him at Cerritos JC. Most of their stories actually sound the same. They all say that he was pretty coo overall, but was not gangsta in any way and that he never wore red or talked about gangbangin. They said he was the best dressed dude there, and that he used to rap but his style was a lot different. One of them told me that he was suprised when he found out he got shot, and when they told him that he was a blood, he was like "for real? I never knew that." This must not have been too much eariler than when he got signed to Aftermath. I have heard many other stories about Game, from him sockin people out on basketball courts, to him bein jumped by crips at Compton, but I heard them all from skeptical sources.

-Murs had a bit of a situation with Xzibit a few years ago, but he said that he killed it before it coulda turned into anything, and that he didn't sweat it because he knew Xzibit was shermed outta his mind when it occured. He knew Xzibit when he first moved from Arizona, and told me that somebody was like "have you met Alvin from Arizona yet?" back in the early 90s.

-According to Suga Free, he didn't steal and sell that DJ Quik beat to Rappin 4-Tay. I heard this story from somebody who's down with Free. He said that he got the beat from Quik, which had Nate on it, and he added a verse to it. I donno if Rappin 4-Tay really stole the CD or whatever, but he added his verses to it and made a song of it, and he definitely didn't intend for it to get out there the way that it did. I donno if he gave it to somebody at a radio station or what, but it got played on radio, and Quik had no idea that 4-Tay was even on it or usin it, and I guess he figured that Free sold the beat to him. Now that is the story Free told his boy, and I donno if that's true or not. So is Free really not gonna diss Quik on his album??? Hmm...we'll seee. The album is already finished, but is not bein released just yet.

-Game and Chingy have apparently killed their "beef", if you want to call it that. There was a time back in 04 when Game arrived to a party that Chingy was havin in LA, and Chingy ran out the back door before it was over. I donno if he felt threatened or what the deal was.

-A certain East Coast rapper got their chain jacked by Rollin 30 Crips (no it wasn't Cam'ron), and Loon is the one who got it back for them.

-John Singleton and the people in charge of writing Baby Boy and Boyz n da hood purposely left out the names of the sets in both movies. But most people in LA knew what sets and hoods everything was located in, and what sets those were supposed to be. In Boyz N da hood, many people feel that there was somewhat of a joke or hidden meaning in the name....boyz N da Hood = N Hood = Neighborhood crips, and the main street Doughboy and the rest of them lived on was definitely in Rollin 60 Crips hood, and they are Neighborhood Crips. The spot that they were posted on Crenshaw at when the bloods started shootin in the air was either near 54th and Crenshaw, or somewhere in the 30s area on Crenshaw. In Baby Boy, the apartments that Jody lived in was located in Neighborhood Rollin 40 crips territory, as was The Liquor Bank where Jody got jumped at. The way they dressed, as well as the "ritual" where Omar Gooding lined up the youngstaz up and bombed on them at the park, closely resembles the way that Neighborhood crips conduct theirselves. Also...Melvin, who was Jody's mom's boyfriend in there, had a big Hoover tattoo on his back. Contrary to popular belief, Hoovers are not Crips anymore, aside from one set (I think 52 Hoovers are still crips), and this could have been one of the underlying reasons that Jody and Melvin didn't get along in the movie. Most Hoovers don't get along with Neighborhood crips. Also, the gay dude from the salon in that movie is really gay in real life, and he works in the same building as me in Culver City.

-Friday was filmed on 126th between Normandie and I think Halldale...if not Halldale, it's whatever Street is parallel with Normandie and is a block west of it. The block still looks similar, although the houses have been painted a different color. This is located in Raymond Crips territory, and is two blocks from El Segundo, which is the bordering street that separates Los Angeles (considered South LA or even South Central right there) and Gardena. For whatever reason, the crips in Gardena (Shotguns, Paybacks, Dragnet) don't get along with Raymond crips, or any Neighborhood crips.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 10, 2006, 11:29:08 PM
Just a few more.....

-Khakis and chucks are the stereotypical wear for L.A. cats, mainly gangbangers, but you rarely see these nowadays. You do see cats wearin dickies, but not a whole lot, and u see chucks but only in the hoods and not too often. You rarely see those old school pendleton or plaid shirts that you always see in rap videos, pictures, and movies. You rarely see cats sportin bandanas.

-The whole Clown dancin/krumpin thing was HUMONGOUS between 2001-2003, and it died off a bit and came back due to the movie, "Rize". It was pioneered by Tommy the clown, who is from L.A. and I THINK went to Gardena High school. He used to always do kids parties, and he used to always be on my block in Gardena doin parties in like 94-95, and this evolved into the dance culture. When this was big, many cats in high school and middle school saw this as an alternative to gangbangin, and only a few cats did both (who could take a clown banger serious anyway?). One of the most known, if not the most known clown dancer other than Tommy himself, is named Larry Berry, and he went to Gardena and grew up in or near the Nickerson Gardens in Watts. He is in the movie Rize, and he pioneered a lot of dances, some which have even made it to mainstream videos such as Chris Brown Run it and Missy Elliot "I'm really hot". He is also a comedian and hosts different events and shows in L.A. I wouldn't be suprised at all if he blows up.

 
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: We Fly High on January 10, 2006, 11:35:56 PM
great post. i'll add some when i think of them. murrays revenge is sounding great too. murs got some great things ahead of him. thats crazy that g malone got a 1400 on SAT.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on January 10, 2006, 11:47:35 PM
Like http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=99227.0 a lot of it is speculation or cannot be proved. Therefore not making it a fact. But there are some interseting ones.

Although many people hadn't heard of Glasses until recently, he had been in the local rap scene for a few years. Ironically, he personally knew Dr. Dre through Neff-U and Neff's uncle Chuck, and when Dre first told him that he signed a rapper from Compton named "The Game", he had no idea who The Game was.
This contradicts a G-Malone interview I read a while back when he was talking about first meeting game. He said that a friend introduced them a while back at some sort of gathering and that he was surrounded by dozens of bloods.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: JMan on January 10, 2006, 11:51:38 PM
really good read r'tistic.. props  :)
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: R-Tistic on January 10, 2006, 11:52:06 PM
Like http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=99227.0 a lot of it is speculation or cannot be proved. Therefore not making it a fact. But there are some interseting ones.

Although many people hadn't heard of Glasses until recently, he had been in the local rap scene for a few years. Ironically, he personally knew Dr. Dre through Neff-U and Neff's uncle Chuck, and when Dre first told him that he signed a rapper from Compton named "The Game", he had no idea who The Game was.
This contradicts a G-Malone interview I read a while back when he was talking about first meeting game. He said that a friend introduced them a while back at some sort of gathering and that he was surrounded by dozens of bloods.

I might have read that interview a while ago but I'm not sure. His brother told me about this, and both things could be true...maybe Dre told him and he didn't know who he was at the time, but he met him later. Otherwise, I can't call it.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: Suga Foot on January 10, 2006, 11:56:53 PM
woooo good post!

I got a stroy about Suge Knight but it's really long and not really that exciting so whatever.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on January 11, 2006, 12:02:01 AM
Like http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=99227.0 a lot of it is speculation or cannot be proved. Therefore not making it a fact. But there are some interseting ones.

Although many people hadn't heard of Glasses until recently, he had been in the local rap scene for a few years. Ironically, he personally knew Dr. Dre through Neff-U and Neff's uncle Chuck, and when Dre first told him that he signed a rapper from Compton named "The Game", he had no idea who The Game was.
This contradicts a G-Malone interview I read a while back when he was talking about first meeting game. He said that a friend introduced them a while back at some sort of gathering and that he was surrounded by dozens of bloods.

I might have read that interview a while ago but I'm not sure. His brother told me about this, and both things could be true...maybe Dre told him and he didn't know who he was at the time, but he met him later. Otherwise, I can't call it.
That might be it.
How did you get all this info? A lot of this is coming directly from your mouth. You got a shit load of connections huh?
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 12:07:37 AM
Like http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=99227.0 a lot of it is speculation or cannot be proved. Therefore not making it a fact. But there are some interseting ones.

Although many people hadn't heard of Glasses until recently, he had been in the local rap scene for a few years. Ironically, he personally knew Dr. Dre through Neff-U and Neff's uncle Chuck, and when Dre first told him that he signed a rapper from Compton named "The Game", he had no idea who The Game was.
This contradicts a G-Malone interview I read a while back when he was talking about first meeting game. He said that a friend introduced them a while back at some sort of gathering and that he was surrounded by dozens of bloods.

I might have read that interview a while ago but I'm not sure. His brother told me about this, and both things could be true...maybe Dre told him and he didn't know who he was at the time, but he met him later. Otherwise, I can't call it.
That might be it.
How did you get all this info? A lot of this is coming directly from your mouth. You got a shit load of connections huh?

Yeah it's all comin from my mouth, definitely with no bullshit. I stay a bit connected around LA, nothin major though.

LOL Adon, yeah post it if you want to. Shit I have heard a few about him myself from credible sources, and some are VERY disturbing...
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: WestCoasta on January 11, 2006, 12:18:41 AM
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From talking to different artists in the LA scene, it may sound weird, but one of the most respected gangstas in the game is Hi-C. It may sound strange because he rarely raps about thug or gangsta shit, and is always about females. But people who grew up around him say that nobody could ever even attempt to knock him for his street rep, and that he put it down durin his day.
doesn't surprise me, Hi-C is dope!
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: wcsoldier on January 11, 2006, 12:26:53 AM
Propz R-Tistic. Never know for Augmon . At least he wore Red when he played for the Hawks too
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: You Ain't Shit on January 11, 2006, 01:59:58 AM
propz to r-tistic, good post, got any more post em up
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Intriago33 on January 11, 2006, 04:37:22 AM
-Jennifer Lewis, actress from Long Beach most notably from "My wife and Kids" and Neutrogena commercials, is somethin like bi-sexual or even "down low" as a lesbian. I have seen pictures of her hugged up with her ex-girlfriend...and NO, it was not on some buddy buddy friendly shit like many girls do, but was REALLY a homosexual type of picture. Word on the streets is also that she gets around with the opposite sex as well.

Which characters that, Claire Kyle?

BTW, good read.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 04:47:02 AM
-Jennifer Lewis, actress from Long Beach most notably from "My wife and Kids" and Neutrogena commercials, is somethin like bi-sexual or even "down low" as a lesbian. I have seen pictures of her hugged up with her ex-girlfriend...and NO, it was not on some buddy buddy friendly shit like many girls do, but was REALLY a homosexual type of picture. Word on the streets is also that she gets around with the opposite sex as well.

Which characters that, Claire Kyle?

BTW, good read.

Yea that's her
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: Addicted To Cake on January 11, 2006, 05:13:10 AM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: No Compute on January 11, 2006, 05:15:32 AM
-I don't remember the story, but I remember readin an interview sayin that NWA somehow linked up at The Rodium, a large outdoor flea market in Gardena/Torrance. This is the same place that DJ Quik used to sell his underground tapes around LA.


This is the story:

"The beginning of the end of life as we know it occurred here, on a beaten patch of asphalt out in the vast, flat no man's land of greater Los Angeles.

The beginning of the end came unannounced. There was no salute, no blast of trumpets or heavenly choir. It came in the sunken heat of summer at an abandoned drive-in movie theater called the Roadium.

A grand arched gate that, in its day, promised entry to whatever secret kingdom Hollywood could conjure graced the Roadium. By the summer of 1985, though, the drive-in, its dreams and innocent magic are relics of a long-gone past. The dull blur of south county towns the Roadium served--Torrance, Lawndale, Hawthorne, Gardena, Carson and Compton--are staging areas in a decade-long descent into what feels at times like a war zone; and at times is. Street corners are outposts in a new crack economy; boulevards battle lines dividing endless variations of Bloods and Crips, usually from one another, always from themselves.

With the drive-in theater gone, the stuff of dreams has been traded for just plain stuff. The Roadium's arch now frames an open-air bazaar piled high with cheap Chinese toys, one-size-fits-all Sri Lankan socks, used car batteries, secondhand tool chests, last year's Barbie dolls and canned peas with last week's use-by date. The Roadium is a swap meet.

The first thing you notice are the people. The place is so jammed you wonder how they ever got along without it. At the moment, the biggest crowd surrounds a little stall just inside the old arch. Kids are lined up two, three deep along the perimeter of the stall, whooping and hollering. A lanky Japanese guy, whippet-thin and wired, presides behind a homemade plywood table in the middle of the noise. The table is stacked high with records, LPs and those 12-inch singles that disc jockeys spin. He's got more of the same displayed on a 20-foot-wide pegboard behind him.

He's got so many products that some days, days when the heat is so thick you could lean against it, the table legs sink an inch into the melting asphalt.

The whole place isn't much bigger than a walk-in closet, and it's hot in every way imaginable. The air's an oven, the kids fired by the desire for the new.

"Yo, Steve. Whatcha got?"

"Stevie, Stevie, whatcha got new, man?"

Steve Yano is the man of the moment, an East L.A. guy who has somehow swapped a career as a high school guidance counselor to become the uncrowned king of a swap meet music underground. He has turned his table into the hippest, hottest record store on the West Coast. He's got everything--all the new East Coast hip-hop, the best old-school R&B, all the L.A. dance jams, that locking-and-popping stuff you see on "Soul Train." He has stuff nobody else has, stuff nobody else has ever heard of. He has stuff so new it doesn't even exist yet (not officially), stuff with no labels, no packaging, just the stamp of the new.

It is the new that tugs at the ears of the man who will deliver the beginning of the end of life, as we know it. He's a little guy, 5-5, 5-6, tops, with the slow swagger of a hustler fat on house money. Steve Yano remembers him showing up that first day at the Roadium, going through piles of 12-inch singles. Big piles.

"He looks 'em over, stacks 'em up. Then says, 'I'll take these.'"

The guy has maybe 20 records in front of him. Yano is used to kids buying one, maybe two at a time. These are not rich kids. They wouldn't be at the swap meet if they were. Yano thinks this guy is scamming.

"All those?" he asks.

"Yeah," the kid says. He's got a high, squeaky voice that makes him sound even younger than he looks. And he looks about 13. He picks up one of the 12-inchers, a cut from some local DJs called the World Class Wreckin' Cru.

"Where you get that from?" he asks.

The question doesn't even register with Yano, who still can't believe the kid has money to buy all the records he has in front of him.

"All of them?" he asks.

"Sure," the kid says, and reaches down in his sock. He comes back up with a roll of cash. He peels the bills off. Bam. Just like that.

Then he says: "Tell Dre, Eric says, 'Whassup?' "

With that, Eric Wright turns and walks off with a stack of records half as big as he is. Yano, of course, tells Dre nothing. Dre, Andre Young, a member of the Wreckin' Cru, is one of the hottest young DJs in L.A. He doesn't need to be bothered, man. Not with this kid anyhow.

Wright comes back the next weekend, asks about Dre again, wants his numbers. He's polite but persistent and comes back every week. Yano finally asks Dre if he knows a homeboy named Eric Wright. And damned if Dre doesn't.

"Next thing I know," Yano says, "those guys are on a three-way call with me at 2 in the morning. Eric wants to open a record store. I tell him, 'Don't do it. It's a bad business. I can show you how, but don't do it.' "

Eric has money--street money, dope money--and wants to go straight. Dre, meanwhile, bugs Yano, who knows every low-level somebody in the record business in all of Los Angeles, to start a record label. Dre wants a place to put out his own music.

In time, these dreams merged and came true. Eric went into the record business, all right, not with a corner store but with his own label and Dre was on it. Soon that label, Ruthless Records, sent out into the world some of the weirdest, funniest, saddest, maddest music anybody ever heard. Out of that little swap meet stall came the partnership that rocked, then overran the record business.....


-Word is that Detox was actually finished back in 2003, and that Dre really didn't produce many of the songs, but that he mixed them and added his touch to them all. I hear that the reason it didn't come out is because of somethin behind the scenes with the cats that really did all the beats, who are producers that are known in the rap game but not the ones who may have been expected, such as Scott Storch. I think it was regarding money that Dre was going to pay for their work on the album. I can't certify this as being 100% true, but the person who told me is definitely connected with many people in the game, including Dre.

That would have been horrible. If this was 2003 it was probably around the time the all got in The Source talking shit about Dre stealing credit.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 05:26:22 AM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?

The one with him and 9th is comin out this year, and I think he has somethin else droppin this year too. He stays somewhere in Orange County now. Where is mom stays is actually a decent neighborhood.

I still talk to everybody on the B&W side of the camp, but I haven't talked to anybody who's part of the new BWS (Game, Phat Rat, Jerzey Devil, Cyssero, Techniec, Eastwood). I talked to Fase a few times and went over there a few times when I was in LA, and I did a track with one of their artists named Lawless. I might put it up on the net this week.
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Post by: ABN on January 11, 2006, 05:45:03 AM
i thought everybody knew that BD´s not from Compton? when BD was on the BWS forum like a year ago he said that he was from SC and that most of his famlily was from the Swans but i don´t know. some peeps has said that he´s from Inglewood but i´ve never heard anyone say that he´s from Compton.
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Post by: ABN on January 11, 2006, 05:47:49 AM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?

The one with him and 9th is comin out this year, and I think he has somethin else droppin this year too. He stays somewhere in Orange County now. Where is mom stays is actually a decent neighborhood.

I still talk to everybody on the B&W side of the camp, but I haven't talked to anybody who's part of the new BWS (Game, Phat Rat, Jerzey Devil, Cyssero, Techniec, Eastwood). I talked to Fase a few times and went over there a few times when I was in LA, and I did a track with one of their artists named Lawless. I might put it up on the net this week.
shit you need to hook up with Tech coz on the real, Techniec will shit on all of the B&W artists even when he´s having his worst day on the mic.
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Post by: Addicted To Cake on January 11, 2006, 05:52:43 AM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?

The one with him and 9th is comin out this year, and I think he has somethin else droppin this year too. He stays somewhere in Orange County now. Where is mom stays is actually a decent neighborhood.

I still talk to everybody on the B&W side of the camp, but I haven't talked to anybody who's part of the new BWS (Game, Phat Rat, Jerzey Devil, Cyssero, Techniec, Eastwood). I talked to Fase a few times and went over there a few times when I was in LA, and I did a track with one of their artists named Lawless. I might put it up on the net this week.

does  phat rat really have beef with brazil & wilmington? in the dvd didn't they show him living their? and why didn't G-Ride join game?  and are they really broke like Fase claims?
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Post by: Mygla on January 11, 2006, 07:59:59 AM
props... this was a good read...
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Post by: -Sarkastic- on January 11, 2006, 08:21:42 AM
Props man, good read  :)
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Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on January 11, 2006, 10:47:32 AM
very dope read 8)Maybe you could post some more?maybe something about Suge..
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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on January 11, 2006, 12:39:44 PM
who was the rapper that got jacked by the 30s?
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Post by: Tha G In Deee on January 11, 2006, 06:53:13 PM
props... this was a good read...
8)
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Post by: Hittman2001 on January 11, 2006, 08:51:58 PM
-Word is that Detox was actually finished back in 2003, and that Dre really didn't produce many of the songs, but that he mixed them and added his touch to them all. I hear that the reason it didn't come out is because of somethin behind the scenes with the cats that really did all the beats, who are producers that are known in the rap game but not the ones who may have been expected, such as Scott Storch. I think it was regarding money that Dre was going to pay for their work on the album. I can't certify this as being 100% true, but the person who told me is definitely connected with many people in the game, including Dre.

That would have been horrible. If this was 2003 it was probably around the time the all got in The Source talking shit about Dre stealing credit.

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Thats probably why mel man, neff-u(Ron Feemster), and Big Chuck left the label

R-Tistic, could you elaborate more on this?  Or is this all you know?
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 09:11:45 PM
-Word is that Detox was actually finished back in 2003, and that Dre really didn't produce many of the songs, but that he mixed them and added his touch to them all. I hear that the reason it didn't come out is because of somethin behind the scenes with the cats that really did all the beats, who are producers that are known in the rap game but not the ones who may have been expected, such as Scott Storch. I think it was regarding money that Dre was going to pay for their work on the album. I can't certify this as being 100% true, but the person who told me is definitely connected with many people in the game, including Dre.

That would have been horrible. If this was 2003 it was probably around the time the all got in The Source talking shit about Dre stealing credit.

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Thats probably why mel man, neff-u(Ron Feemster), and Big Chuck left the label

R-Tistic, could you elaborate more on this?  Or is this all you know?

Well yeah, I definitely heard that Neff-U was one who did a lot of the beats on there. I am sure I'm not the only person who knows about it, and I am sure that somebody else possibly on here knows more about it than I do. Also, I donno if the album was finished as far as the rapper's verses bein on there, or if it was just the beats were all finished.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 09:17:25 PM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?

The one with him and 9th is comin out this year, and I think he has somethin else droppin this year too. He stays somewhere in Orange County now. Where is mom stays is actually a decent neighborhood.

I still talk to everybody on the B&W side of the camp, but I haven't talked to anybody who's part of the new BWS (Game, Phat Rat, Jerzey Devil, Cyssero, Techniec, Eastwood). I talked to Fase a few times and went over there a few times when I was in LA, and I did a track with one of their artists named Lawless. I might put it up on the net this week.

does  phat rat really have beef with brazil & wilmington? in the dvd didn't they show him living their? and why didn't G-Ride join game?  and are they really broke like Fase claims?

I donno if he has beef with them, but I am nearly positive that he's not fuckin with them, at least as far as bein sided with them. I heard that the post that said "fuck Fase" and all that was fake, but I donno if it was or not. He was livin in one of the houses on the block....him, Jerzey Devil, and Game all lived there at different periods of time. There was actually a time where Jerzey Devil and Phat Rat weren't on the best of terms, and Rat was talkin bout puttin NJD off of BWS. I donno what made certain people decide to side with Game or not, but I know G-Ride was talkin the most negative shit about Game on the BWS board. I don't really think they are "broke" meaning like no money to do anything at all, but they probably aren't ballin anything major. They still got a full studio at the spot, and they still have 100% full security as far as havin cameras around all premises. G Ride and Fase got some hooked up Magnums with suicide doors n all, G-Ride's is silver with "G Ride" on the plate and the BWS seal on the front of it, and Fase's is black.
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Post by: Hittman2001 on January 11, 2006, 09:23:17 PM
-Word is that Detox was actually finished back in 2003, and that Dre really didn't produce many of the songs, but that he mixed them and added his touch to them all. I hear that the reason it didn't come out is because of somethin behind the scenes with the cats that really did all the beats, who are producers that are known in the rap game but not the ones who may have been expected, such as Scott Storch. I think it was regarding money that Dre was going to pay for their work on the album. I can't certify this as being 100% true, but the person who told me is definitely connected with many people in the game, including Dre.

That would have been horrible. If this was 2003 it was probably around the time the all got in The Source talking shit about Dre stealing credit.

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Thats probably why mel man, neff-u(Ron Feemster), and Big Chuck left the label

R-Tistic, could you elaborate more on this?  Or is this all you know?

Well yeah, I definitely heard that Neff-U was one who did a lot of the beats on there. I am sure I'm not the only person who knows about it, and I am sure that somebody else possibly on here knows more about it than I do. Also, I donno if the album was finished as far as the rapper's verses bein on there, or if it was just the beats were all finished.


What about mel man?  did he come back to the aftermath?
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Post by: Addicted To Cake on January 11, 2006, 09:38:54 PM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?

The one with him and 9th is comin out this year, and I think he has somethin else droppin this year too. He stays somewhere in Orange County now. Where is mom stays is actually a decent neighborhood.

I still talk to everybody on the B&W side of the camp, but I haven't talked to anybody who's part of the new BWS (Game, Phat Rat, Jerzey Devil, Cyssero, Techniec, Eastwood). I talked to Fase a few times and went over there a few times when I was in LA, and I did a track with one of their artists named Lawless. I might put it up on the net this week.

does  phat rat really have beef with brazil & wilmington? in the dvd didn't they show him living their? and why didn't G-Ride join game?  and are they really broke like Fase claims?

I donno if he has beef with them, but I am nearly positive that he's not fuckin with them, at least as far as bein sided with them. I heard that the post that said "fuck Fase" and all that was fake, but I donno if it was or not. He was livin in one of the houses on the block....him, Jerzey Devil, and Game all lived there at different periods of time. There was actually a time where Jerzey Devil and Phat Rat weren't on the best of terms, and Rat was talkin bout puttin NJD off of BWS. I donno what made certain people decide to side with Game or not, but I know G-Ride was talkin the most negative shit about Game on the BWS board. I don't really think they are "broke" meaning like no money to do anything at all, but they probably aren't ballin anything major. They still got a full studio at the spot, and they still have 100% full security as far as havin cameras around all premises. G Ride and Fase got some hooked up Magnums with suicide doors n all, G-Ride's is silver with "G Ride" on the plate and the BWS seal on the front of it, and Fase's is black.

how do those dudes make money then if game aint giving them shit?  do they have jobs or do they slang rock?
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 11:15:40 PM
-Word is that Detox was actually finished back in 2003, and that Dre really didn't produce many of the songs, but that he mixed them and added his touch to them all. I hear that the reason it didn't come out is because of somethin behind the scenes with the cats that really did all the beats, who are producers that are known in the rap game but not the ones who may have been expected, such as Scott Storch. I think it was regarding money that Dre was going to pay for their work on the album. I can't certify this as being 100% true, but the person who told me is definitely connected with many people in the game, including Dre.

That would have been horrible. If this was 2003 it was probably around the time the all got in The Source talking shit about Dre stealing credit.

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Thats probably why mel man, neff-u(Ron Feemster), and Big Chuck left the label

R-Tistic, could you elaborate more on this?  Or is this all you know?

Well yeah, I definitely heard that Neff-U was one who did a lot of the beats on there. I am sure I'm not the only person who knows about it, and I am sure that somebody else possibly on here knows more about it than I do. Also, I donno if the album was finished as far as the rapper's verses bein on there, or if it was just the beats were all finished.


What about mel man?  did he come back to the aftermath?

I've never heard much about Mel Man so I don't even know. I saw somebody online say he did come back, but I donno the deal with that.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 11, 2006, 11:17:33 PM
very good read. btw, when is murs's album coming out? does he still live in Mid City or did he move outta the hood?

and do u still talk to the bws camp?

The one with him and 9th is comin out this year, and I think he has somethin else droppin this year too. He stays somewhere in Orange County now. Where is mom stays is actually a decent neighborhood.

I still talk to everybody on the B&W side of the camp, but I haven't talked to anybody who's part of the new BWS (Game, Phat Rat, Jerzey Devil, Cyssero, Techniec, Eastwood). I talked to Fase a few times and went over there a few times when I was in LA, and I did a track with one of their artists named Lawless. I might put it up on the net this week.

does  phat rat really have beef with brazil & wilmington? in the dvd didn't they show him living their? and why didn't G-Ride join game?  and are they really broke like Fase claims?

I donno if he has beef with them, but I am nearly positive that he's not fuckin with them, at least as far as bein sided with them. I heard that the post that said "fuck Fase" and all that was fake, but I donno if it was or not. He was livin in one of the houses on the block....him, Jerzey Devil, and Game all lived there at different periods of time. There was actually a time where Jerzey Devil and Phat Rat weren't on the best of terms, and Rat was talkin bout puttin NJD off of BWS. I donno what made certain people decide to side with Game or not, but I know G-Ride was talkin the most negative shit about Game on the BWS board. I don't really think they are "broke" meaning like no money to do anything at all, but they probably aren't ballin anything major. They still got a full studio at the spot, and they still have 100% full security as far as havin cameras around all premises. G Ride and Fase got some hooked up Magnums with suicide doors n all, G-Ride's is silver with "G Ride" on the plate and the BWS seal on the front of it, and Fase's is black.

how do those dudes make money then if game aint giving them shit?  do they have jobs or do they slang rock?

Many of em have side husltes. They are always bein watched and have even been raided so I don't see how they could be slangin rock like that, they are too visible so they gotta keep it legal. G-Ride and Fase likely got broke off from when G. Malone signed for 1.7, and they still make money from mixtapes, shirts, and other materials dealin with Game and BWS. They also have a few shops right there on the block.
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Post by: Addicted To Cake on January 11, 2006, 11:59:03 PM
so all those stories about them owning liquor stores & property on their block was all bull shit in other words.
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Post by: 'DsR' on January 12, 2006, 12:05:36 AM
good read.
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Post by: Realbiggsteele on January 12, 2006, 12:49:13 AM
Damn Dawg, ur up on ur shit! Hi-C is one of the rawest niggas on these street's!
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 03:23:33 AM
so all those stories about them owning liquor stores & property on their block was all bull shit in other words.

I don't think they own any of it, but they rented out a few of their houses and the stores at the corner. Fase aired that out on the board, sayin that Game didn't want to buy it because the property was too much, but he had already told the world that he owned it. I used to wonder, because they did use like 3 different houses on the street, but there were two that were closest to the dam and end of culdesac that used to have white people and hispanics comin out, and they never spoke with anybody at BWS at all. I just figured Game had bought it, and just rented it to these people, but that would be weird as hell for him to do, and you'd figure he'd let his own peeps stay in those houses too or use them for somethin you know?
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 03:25:21 AM
Damn Dawg, ur up on ur shit! Hi-C is one of the rawest niggas on these street's!

What up, yeah you were the first one who told me that, but some other people told me the same thing when I was back home. Remember I was like damn, Hi-C, for real? I know you said him and Tray Dee were the realest, and hearin Tray Dee didn't suprise me at all, but Hi-C never seemed to be like that even though I am just goin off a few pictures and hearin his songs.
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Post by: Realbiggsteele on January 12, 2006, 03:35:30 AM
yeah dawg, rest assure that half of these peons screamin they hood, are busters, the quiet cool ones be puttin in the most work
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Post by: ExZit on January 12, 2006, 03:46:47 AM
Ï heard that Barry White (RIP) was gangbangin in his younger days, from what i heard in a interview he grew up in Watts and was a blood as a yougster, can u imagine that, with his voice?  8)
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Post by: big mat on January 12, 2006, 03:55:17 AM
i dont think he was a blood cause he became famous in the same time blood were created but maybe he was in some sort of gang. i heard that too, O.G. barry
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 04:09:09 AM
Here's some more that came to mind. Some that y'all know, some y'all might have heard, some that most people outside LA don't know, some that are speculation, etc. etc....

-Jay-Z's Black Album was supposed to have 14 different tracks from 14 different producers, and Dre was supposed to be one of them. For whatever reasons, Dre didn't have a track on there, and I doubt it's because Jay didn't wanna use it but most likely because Dre didn't submit it in time.

-Although it's hard for me to believe, somebody on a different message board similar to this said that Alonso from Streetgangs.com aired out WC and killed him in a debate about gangs, and that WC had actually admitted to never bein a gangbanger. The interesting thing to me is that most people, even on the streets, have always said WC was definitely from 111 Neighborhood Crip, and I have never heard anyone other than the person on the message board say anything different....but I have Low Profile's 1990 CD that had "Pay ya dues", and he was definitely speakin positive throughout most of the album, and against gangs. He had one line sayin "some claim to be a gangsta, but I don't bang", and he had a song that sounded very Public Enemy-ish speakin of how kids in the community sell dope and how it's not a good thing at all.

-LOL....Kam told me that he was at a club in Hollywood a week or so before the Rose Bowl, and that Vince Young was in there talkin major shit about how he was gonna do USC, and Kam's homeboy from Grape St. ended up talkin a lotta shit back to him and prolly woulda fought him, but Vince's teammates and probably security stepped in and prevented anything from happenin. Yeah we gotta admit that Vince did the hell outta us, but he's an idiot for comin to LA and talkin THAT MUCH shit before the game, and actin as if he could do that in Trojan Land. I wish somebody had laid him out, or at least gave him a Tonya Harding hit to the knee or somethin! J/K

-Word on the streets is.....there is really an older picture of Game throwin up Santana Blocc Crip, which is the neighborhood he lived in and spent most of his time in during high school. I donno who has it, and I could only speculate to why it hasn't hit the net. I'd just say because the people who have it probably aren't the type to just put shit on the net, or either they coulda been paid to keep it on the hush, but who knows.

-I have heard a few stories about Suge Knight, but one in particular disturbed me the most. Somebody credible in the game was in the studio with him one time, and they say that Suge forced two brothers to have sex with each other at gunpoint. I don't know what they did to him, or what they didn't do for him, but bein that I believe the person who said it happened, that shit is horrendous.

-Tyrese went to Locke High, which is located in Watts. My aunt taught him back in 94-95, and said that he never came to class because he spent all his time in the music room. This was a few years before he first appeared in that Coca Cola Commercial. She taught him Health, and gave him a D which was basically from her bein nice. He asked "is there anything I could do to raise my grade to a C?" and she told him "yeah....only if you get a crane." My mom taught Andre Miller at Verbum Dei sometime after 92, and I think he graduated in 94. She said he was always a good student and was focused, even though he didn't make the best of grades. He grew up in Watts, and his mom lives somewhere near the border of Compton and Watts but lives in a nice part (yeah, there are a few very nice areas over there).

-One reason I can never hate Shaq for any reason is because he has always been a philanthropist, even outside of the TV cameras. He paid for my Godbrother from Watts to go to college back in 97. He used to spend much of his free time over in Watts at the community center right next to Verbum Dei and around the corner from the Nickerson Gardens, and was always bringin kids gifts. When he started his clothing company TWISM, he actually built the main plant in Watts, and not outside the country like most companies do, and all the workers there were young people from Watts, Compton, and other surrounding areas. Magic Johnson has also been doing similar things in LA just as Shaq did and still does.

-Many of y'all remember this from a year and a half ago when it happened, but I met Billboard along with Phat Rat and Black Friday when they came to my house back in May 2004. A month later, Billboard was killed in the alley located behind my house. There were many retaliations that occured within the next few days, but the few people who were shot weren't even gangbangers from the neighborhood, and it happened in broad daylight on Van Ness. There have been different rumors to why it happened, but I'll probably never know the truth. I was in Florida when everything went down, but two of my best friends were right in front of my house and they heard the shots when it happened. They thought it was just fireworks because July  4 was comin up, and people in those apartments back there are always shootin fireworks. However, it only took a few hours for Billboard's people to find out, and they sprayed up those apartments. Some people may feel I am speakin too much about what went down, but everybody in my neighborhood and probably most people in Compton know all of these details, so it's nothin but a first hand story. Billboard was VERY cool and laid back, even though you could tell he had a helluva edge to him. It was always funny to me that Billboard had a MUCH bigger reputation in the streets than Game, but that he was much more outgoing and sociable to people he didn't know. Game always had an attitude when I was at his spot, and always seemed like he was mad at the world, even though his album was about to come out.

-Billboard was actually supposed to have a verse on Game's album, but it didn't make the album for some reason. There are still tracks from Billboard in the vault, but I don't know if they will ever be released.

-Most people know that Actor Merlin Santana, who played Romeo on Steve Harvey and played in that movie that was basically a "remix" of the Pac and Big story, was killed in LA. Word has it that he was set up by a female and it involved gangbangers, and that he was killed right off of Crenshaw on a Saturday night. I don't think he had any gang affiliation.

-I know many older people who either knew Tookie personally, or used to always see him around. One of my best friend's dad went to Washington High during the same time as Tookie. Washington is where Tookie and Raymond started the Crips, and that school as well as the surrounding area are still 98% crip. He told me that Tookie was one of those bullies you only saw on TV shows, and when he hit the corner where the lockers were, people were really like "OH SHIT, HERE COMES TOOKIE!!!! HIDE YOUR MONEY!!!" and he would go around jackin people for money. My other homeboy's dad told me that he used to always be at a house located near Century and Western, and he would be outside visibly liftin weights all the time with his people. My first cousin who's 51 (kinda weird since I'm 21) went to Jefferson high and lived in what I think is now Harlem 30's neighborhood right on Jefferson, and he said Tookie made his way through his neighborhood too. He said that him and the cats he rolled with all had the same build, which was funny looking because they were all massive from their waste and above, but all had skinny legs. He told me that Tookie got to the size he was (anybody who's seen pics of him when he first went in knows the deal) because he spent much time in his high school days at somethin similar to boot camp because he used to get in trouble. Overall, I found it interesting bein in LA during the time of his trial, because there were many celebrities, anti death penalty advocates, politicians, and everything inbetween who were fighting for Tookie's clemency....but if you asked the majority of 45-55 year olds who were actually around during Tookie's reign back in the 70s, nearly all of them cared less and most actually wanted him to die. Most of them feel that he is part of the reason to why the crips are as dominant and wild as they are now, and that all the stories about him startin Crips for neighborhood protection and for positive reasons were all bullshit, because he was a menace on the streets.


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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 04:13:54 AM
i dont think he was a blood cause he became famous in the same time blood were created but maybe he was in some sort of gang. i heard that too, O.G. barry

LOL yeah, I have heard many things similar to that. I think he was probably from one of those gangs that were all territorial but weren't under any crip or blood umbrella at the time. For example, The Slauson Boys was the name of a gang back in the 60s or 70s, and that is now considered to be Rollin 60 Crip. My neighborhood is now Shotgun Crips, but back in the mid 70s, it was two close-knit gangs called the Casimir Blocks and the Wilkie Boys. It is interesting that two of the main cats who started the Casimir Blocks grew up right next door to where I grew up, and their parents still live there and I always see them and their sons, and that the Wilkie Boys was started up by my homeboy's dad who grew up a few blocks over. So with Barry White, it sounds like he grew up bein from one of those kinda sets back in the 50s or 60s that ended up turnin into somethin else, but I am pretty he wasn't throwin up blood! Unless he was drunk at a party and was beefin with Marvin Gaye or somethin, which would be funny as hell to see.
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Post by: ABN on January 12, 2006, 04:53:52 AM
naw WC was on some BET show with the guy that runs streetgangs and i´ve seen the shit. and he said that he wasn´t a gang banger and that he only claimed coz otherwise you´ll have a hard time selling records and some other dumb shit.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 05:18:46 AM
naw WC was on some BET show with the guy that runs streetgangs and i´ve seen the shit. and he said that he wasn´t a gang banger and that he only claimed coz otherwise you´ll have a hard time selling records and some other dumb shit.

Damm, so that dude who said it was right. Hmm..was it Oh Drama? If so, I saw part of that episode, because my homeboy was on there. You might remember another dude bein on there who's name was Jay Rock, Jay Capone, or Baby Bear (I don't know which one they called out). He is from Shotgun Crip which is where I grew up, and he was on there talkin about how he got shot once and he decided to change his life. I didn't see the entire episode, so maybe Alonso did come on there.

And that's crazy if WC was on there sayin that, because everybody in the streets says he's really from Neighborhood 111. That's why he haid the twisted braids in his beard. Maybe he grew up under them but was never officially put on.
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Post by: ABN on January 12, 2006, 05:24:13 AM
i don´t remember which show it was coz i only had BET for a year and this was years ago. i do remember it bein a couple of more guys there so maybe your boy was on there. maybe Dub was just an affiliate or something coz i´m pretty sure that a couple of my cousins friends from LA has said that he has a brother that is/was pretty serious in the streets. dunno why someone would go on a network that´s aired WW and admit that though but maybe he just grew up and realized that that shit is just childish. and it´s weird coz i´ve heard peeps shout out Dub and naming his set and just recently Game did that on G-Unit Crips but i´ve heard other rappers do it aswell.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 12, 2006, 05:32:18 AM
Yo those are some dope facts man. My mom used to live out in Gardena when she was in her teens. She tols me some stories about Tookie back in the day and how everyone was hopin he would get locked up or killed. Props man.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 05:59:01 AM
Yo those are some dope facts man. My mom used to live out in Gardena when she was in her teens. She tols me some stories about Tookie back in the day and how everyone was hopin he would get locked up or killed. Props man.

LOL damn that's crazy, that's how it sounded though. What neighborhood did she live in? She proobably went to school with some of my people's parents.
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Post by: The Watcher on January 12, 2006, 07:00:39 AM
i dont know if that stuff about jay-z's album is true about bein 14 tracks, I have an advert for it in a magazine sitting in my closet somewhere which says "12 tracks, 12 different producers.." and this was just after it was announced
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Post by: DatNiggaDazisBack on January 12, 2006, 07:34:35 AM
Here's some more that came to mind. Some that y'all know, some y'all might have heard, some that most people outside LA don't know, some that are speculation, etc. etc....

-Jay-Z's Black Album was supposed to have 14 different tracks from 14 different producers, and Dre was supposed to be one of them. For whatever reasons, Dre didn't have a track on there, and I doubt it's because Jay didn't wanna use it but most likely because Dre didn't submit it in time.

-Although it's hard for me to believe, somebody on a different message board similar to this said that Alonso from Streetgangs.com aired out WC and killed him in a debate about gangs, and that WC had actually admitted to never bein a gangbanger. The interesting thing to me is that most people, even on the streets, have always said WC was definitely from 111 Neighborhood Crip, and I have never heard anyone other than the person on the message board say anything different....but I have Low Profile's 1990 CD that had "Pay ya dues", and he was definitely speakin positive throughout most of the album, and against gangs. He had one line sayin "some claim to be a gangsta, but I don't bang", and he had a song that sounded very Public Enemy-ish speakin of how kids in the community sell dope and how it's not a good thing at all.

-LOL....Kam told me that he was at a club in Hollywood a week or so before the Rose Bowl, and that Vince Young was in there talkin major shit about how he was gonna do USC, and Kam's homeboy from Grape St. ended up talkin a lotta shit back to him and prolly woulda fought him, but Vince's teammates and probably security stepped in and prevented anything from happenin. Yeah we gotta admit that Vince did the hell outta us, but he's an idiot for comin to LA and talkin THAT MUCH shit before the game, and actin as if he could do that in Trojan Land. I wish somebody had laid him out, or at least gave him a Tonya Harding hit to the knee or somethin! J/K

-Word on the streets is.....there is really an older picture of Game throwin up Santana Blocc Crip, which is the neighborhood he lived in and spent most of his time in during high school. I donno who has it, and I could only speculate to why it hasn't hit the net. I'd just say because the people who have it probably aren't the type to just put shit on the net, or either they coulda been paid to keep it on the hush, but who knows.

-I have heard a few stories about Suge Knight, but one in particular disturbed me the most. Somebody credible in the game was in the studio with him one time, and they say that Suge forced two brothers to have sex with each other at gunpoint. I don't know what they did to him, or what they didn't do for him, but bein that I believe the person who said it happened, that shit is horrendous.

-Tyrese went to Locke High, which is located in Watts. My aunt taught him back in 94-95, and said that he never came to class because he spent all his time in the music room. This was a few years before he first appeared in that Coca Cola Commercial. She taught him Health, and gave him a D which was basically from her bein nice. He asked "is there anything I could do to raise my grade to a C?" and she told him "yeah....only if you get a crane." My mom taught Andre Miller at Verbum Dei sometime after 92, and I think he graduated in 94. She said he was always a good student and was focused, even though he didn't make the best of grades. He grew up in Watts, and his mom lives somewhere near the border of Compton and Watts but lives in a nice part (yeah, there are a few very nice areas over there).

-One reason I can never hate Shaq for any reason is because he has always been a philanthropist, even outside of the TV cameras. He paid for my Godbrother from Watts to go to college back in 97. He used to spend much of his free time over in Watts at the community center right next to Verbum Dei and around the corner from the Nickerson Gardens, and was always bringin kids gifts. When he started his clothing company TWISM, he actually built the main plant in Watts, and not outside the country like most companies do, and all the workers there were young people from Watts, Compton, and other surrounding areas. Magic Johnson has also been doing similar things in LA just as Shaq did and still does.

-Many of y'all remember this from a year and a half ago when it happened, but I met Billboard along with Phat Rat and Black Friday when they came to my house back in May 2004. A month later, Billboard was killed in the alley located behind my house. There were many retaliations that occured within the next few days, but the few people who were shot weren't even gangbangers from the neighborhood, and it happened in broad daylight on Van Ness. There have been different rumors to why it happened, but I'll probably never know the truth. I was in Florida when everything went down, but two of my best friends were right in front of my house and they heard the shots when it happened. They thought it was just fireworks because July  4 was comin up, and people in those apartments back there are always shootin fireworks. However, it only took a few hours for Billboard's people to find out, and they sprayed up those apartments. Some people may feel I am speakin too much about what went down, but everybody in my neighborhood and probably most people in Compton know all of these details, so it's nothin but a first hand story. Billboard was VERY cool and laid back, even though you could tell he had a helluva edge to him. It was always funny to me that Billboard had a MUCH bigger reputation in the streets than Game, but that he was much more outgoing and sociable to people he didn't know. Game always had an attitude when I was at his spot, and always seemed like he was mad at the world, even though his album was about to come out.

-Billboard was actually supposed to have a verse on Game's album, but it didn't make the album for some reason. There are still tracks from Billboard in the vault, but I don't know if they will ever be released.

-Most people know that Actor Merlin Santana, who played Romeo on Steve Harvey and played in that movie that was basically a "remix" of the Pac and Big story, was killed in LA. Word has it that he was set up by a female and it involved gangbangers, and that he was killed right off of Crenshaw on a Saturday night. I don't think he had any gang affiliation.

-I know many older people who either knew Tookie personally, or used to always see him around. One of my best friend's dad went to Washington High during the same time as Tookie. Washington is where Tookie and Raymond started the Crips, and that school as well as the surrounding area are still 98% crip. He told me that Tookie was one of those bullies you only saw on TV shows, and when he hit the corner where the lockers were, people were really like "OH SHIT, HERE COMES TOOKIE!!!! HIDE YOUR MONEY!!!" and he would go around jackin people for money. My other homeboy's dad told me that he used to always be at a house located near Century and Western, and he would be outside visibly liftin weights all the time with his people. My first cousin who's 51 (kinda weird since I'm 21) went to Jefferson high and lived in what I think is now Harlem 30's neighborhood right on Jefferson, and he said Tookie made his way through his neighborhood too. He said that him and the cats he rolled with all had the same build, which was funny looking because they were all massive from their waste and above, but all had skinny legs. He told me that Tookie got to the size he was (anybody who's seen pics of him when he first went in knows the deal) because he spent much time in his high school days at somethin similar to boot camp because he used to get in trouble. Overall, I found it interesting bein in LA during the time of his trial, because there were many celebrities, anti death penalty advocates, politicians, and everything inbetween who were fighting for Tookie's clemency....but if you asked the majority of 45-55 year olds who were actually around during Tookie's reign back in the 70s, nearly all of them cared less and most actually wanted him to die. Most of them feel that he is part of the reason to why the crips are as dominant and wild as they are now, and that all the stories about him startin Crips for neighborhood protection and for positive reasons were all bullshit, because he was a menace on the streets.




Damn was those two brothers rappers?  That's scandalous of Suge mayne.

Billboard was probably the real g, they say his cousin in law was almost killed too k9?
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 08:45:04 AM
i dont know if that stuff about jay-z's album is true about bein 14 tracks, I have an advert for it in a magazine sitting in my closet somewhere which says "12 tracks, 12 different producers.." and this was just after it was announced

Well that's what it was then, I was thinkin 14 since the final album had 14 tracks. But yeah, Dre was one of the 12, and Primo might have been too.
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Post by: reggie bush on January 12, 2006, 01:13:17 PM
if crips & bloods don't wear khakis and chucks what do they wear then?
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Post by: ABN on January 12, 2006, 01:35:40 PM
if crips & bloods don't wear khakis and chucks what do they wear then?
just coz they bangers they can´t wear the same shit as the next nigga?
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Post by: 'EclipZe on January 12, 2006, 02:33:54 PM
woa readed it all props on that r-tistic sum nice facts + rumors
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Post by: DPG4Life on January 12, 2006, 04:41:04 PM
-J. Wells is not from L.A....he's actually from somewhere in the south or either Chicago. Jelly Roll is also from the south...I think Alabama.
nope, jelly roll is from the mid-west, i think it was kentucky, but not 100% sure - but I AM 100% sure that hes from the mid-west - doenst behave like a guy from the south anyway...
better not post any "i think" things... no offense, but why did you even put it to your list unless you wasnt even sure about it? ::)
this may make one wonder how well the rest has been researched :-\ ::)
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Post by: We Fly High on January 12, 2006, 04:53:25 PM
jelly roll is from oklahoma
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Post by: DPG4Life on January 12, 2006, 05:11:21 PM
in the internet oklahoma is reffered being south aswell as midwest, but when i think about the dirty south - crunk south, im definately not thinking about oklahoma,or am i wrong?
and im remembering an interview jelly did, where he said that he's a midwest dude - so thats where i got it from
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 12, 2006, 05:26:38 PM
speakin of billboard, did anyone else find it weird how game NEVER looked into the camera when standing next to billboard? he would just look at the ground or stare the opposite direction
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 05:48:25 PM
-J. Wells is not from L.A....he's actually from somewhere in the south or either Chicago. Jelly Roll is also from the south...I think Alabama.
nope, jelly roll is from the mid-west, i think it was kentucky, but not 100% sure - but I AM 100% sure that hes from the mid-west - doenst behave like a guy from the south anyway...
better not post any "i think" things... no offense, but why did you even put it to your list unless you wasnt even sure about it? ::)
this may make one wonder how well the rest has been researched :-\ ::)

Well that's why I say rumors as well as facts, and me sayin "I think" is my speculation, which is usually never far off from the truth. I never said anything major like "I think Dre is going to get Suge killed", it was usually over the less important facts. If I had titled it "cold hard facts" and said "I think...." then it might be a contradiction, but I clarified everything I knew for fact and everything that is just speculated and that I wasn't sure on. And I never mind bein corrected, it's not like I'm puttin these on a major news website and reportin it as facts.
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Post by: reggie bush on January 12, 2006, 06:01:44 PM
whats the dress code for gangsters in LA for 2006?
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Post by: nibs on January 12, 2006, 06:12:56 PM
whats the dress code for gangsters in LA for 2006?

reggie bush was wearing a 'p' hat at a news conference before the rose bowl.  i always wondered about his choice in head gear.
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Post by: Maniac Marxxx on January 12, 2006, 07:22:52 PM
who got jacked for there chain by the 30's
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 08:13:23 PM
whats the dress code for gangsters in LA for 2006?

I mean..I wouldn't even say it's a dress code, but just a loose kinda code that most people know. It's hard as hell to point out a gangbanger nowadays, because many non-affiliates and non gang members wear similar things. Usually, you can tell if dudes bang if they are in a group and all got on similar things, but you will see a lot of dudes who you would think bang because of their attire who really don't. You just don't see khakis and chucks that much more than you'd see em anywhere else. A lotta times, you'll see dudes with white tees, and their hat can represent the gang they are from, but even that isn't always the case. I see crips wearin red at times, and bloods wearin blue at times, but it is usually in moderation when they do. It also depends where you are located. Somebody could be wearin a black LA hat, white tee, black jeans, and black or white shoes, and he could be a crip or blood. At the same time, somebody could have on a red hat or red shoes, and not be a gang banger. But usually, they just wear certain hats and combinations of colors to where u can guess where they are from.

But in general....it's usually never like the movies, where you drive by a corner in a neighborhood and see 20 dudes in ALL red or blue, from head to toe.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 08:15:31 PM
who got jacked for there chain by the 30's

I really don't want to put it on blast. I could tell you who it was not if asked though. It wasn't anybody from G-Unit, Dipset, or D-Block.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 12, 2006, 10:16:50 PM
-J. Wells is not from L.A....he's actually from somewhere in the south or either Chicago. Jelly Roll is also from the south...I think Alabama.
nope, jelly roll is from the mid-west, i think it was kentucky, but not 100% sure - but I AM 100% sure that hes from the mid-west - doenst behave like a guy from the south anyway...
better not post any "i think" things... no offense, but why did you even put it to your list unless you wasnt even sure about it? ::)
this may make one wonder how well the rest has been researched :-\ ::)

Damn man, take it easy.
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Post by: R-Tistic on January 12, 2006, 11:16:12 PM
-J. Wells is not from L.A....he's actually from somewhere in the south or either Chicago. Jelly Roll is also from the south...I think Alabama.
nope, jelly roll is from the mid-west, i think it was kentucky, but not 100% sure - but I AM 100% sure that hes from the mid-west - doenst behave like a guy from the south anyway...
better not post any "i think" things... no offense, but why did you even put it to your list unless you wasnt even sure about it? ::)
this may make one wonder how well the rest has been researched :-\ ::)

Damn man, take it easy.

LOL.....yeah, I said I THINK, and that is somethin that wasn't even that important, and that makes him wonder how well the rest was "researched", damn. I gotta be 100% on everything from here on out
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Post by: DPG4Life on January 13, 2006, 01:34:55 AM
nah man, its cool, but i was wondering why you put something like this into that really INTERESTING list, youre a cool dude, so most probably the rest is right, but to me it just didnt make sense to add this rumour-talk to all the facts you put on the table
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Post by: reggie bush on January 13, 2006, 02:54:36 PM
ayo Rtistic, what city does game live in now?   i take it he finally moved outta compton right?
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Post by: smp4life on January 13, 2006, 03:29:22 PM
Here's some I gleaned from the "Have Gun Will Travel " book by Ronin Ro:

Sam Sneed got raped at Deathrow.

Suge made 2 rappers (brothers) from the midwest strip naked, and then he robbed them, in the studio for using a payphone Suge told them not to. They pressed charges too.

Pac's 1st rapping name was MC New York.

Suge slapped Warren G in front of all his homeboys and they didn't do nothing.

Warren G changed the color of a car in one of his rhymes from blue to red to appease Suge. I think it was in Regulate.

Sam Sneed was sat down and made to watch his own music video, and Death Row thugs punched him each time an east coast artist appeared in it. Supposedly Pac was in on this anti-Sneed thing too.

An engineer was beaten for recording over a tape in the studio.

Suge made smaller artists sign blank pieces of paper for contracts.

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Post by: We Fly High on January 13, 2006, 04:24:58 PM


Warren G changed the color of a car in one of his rhymes from blue to red to appease Suge. I think it was in Regulate.



Aint No Fun.
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Post by: Bch on January 13, 2006, 04:28:48 PM
shade shiest went to hamilton highschool in l.a. too..........


rtistic most of the stuff u said was dead on point, straight from L.A.
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Post by: We Fly High on January 13, 2006, 04:32:19 PM
ayo Rtistic, what city does game live in now?   i take it he finally moved outta compton right?

i think he lives in glendale. my coworker went to his house warming party, hahaha.
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Post by: DatNiggaDazisBack on January 13, 2006, 07:14:28 PM
Here's some I gleaned from the "Have Gun Will Travel " book by Ronin Ro:

Sam Sneed got raped at Deathrow.

Suge made 2 rappers (brothers) from the midwest strip naked, and then he robbed them, in the studio for using a payphone Suge told them not to. They pressed charges too.

Pac's 1st rapping name was MC New York.

Suge slapped Warren G in front of all his homeboys and they didn't do nothing.

Warren G changed the color of a car in one of his rhymes from blue to red to appease Suge. I think it was in Regulate.

Sam Sneed was sat down and made to watch his own music video, and Death Row thugs punched him each time an east coast artist appeared in it. Supposedly Pac was in on this anti-Sneed thing too.

An engineer was beaten for recording over a tape in the studio.

Suge made smaller artists sign blank pieces of paper for contracts.



That nigga suge is the devil
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Post by: makaveli11 on January 13, 2006, 07:19:50 PM
damn propz for the info. You have mad connections and I take it that you live in compton. That story about Suge makin two brothers have sex together at gunpoint IS very disturbing. Goddamn no wonder why people were shook to death of deathrow back in the mid nineties.
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Post by: makaveli11 on January 13, 2006, 07:23:47 PM
Here's some I gleaned from the "Have Gun Will Travel " book by Ronin Ro:

Sam Sneed got raped at Deathrow.
Is this fact or rumor?
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Post by: Eihtball on January 13, 2006, 07:41:38 PM
I mean..I wouldn't even say it's a dress code, but just a loose kinda code that most people know. It's hard as hell to point out a gangbanger nowadays, because many non-affiliates and non gang members wear similar things. Usually, you can tell if dudes bang if they are in a group and all got on similar things, but you will see a lot of dudes who you would think bang because of their attire who really don't. You just don't see khakis and chucks that much more than you'd see em anywhere else. A lotta times, you'll see dudes with white tees, and their hat can represent the gang they are from, but even that isn't always the case. I see crips wearin red at times, and bloods wearin blue at times, but it is usually in moderation when they do. It also depends where you are located. Somebody could be wearin a black LA hat, white tee, black jeans, and black or white shoes, and he could be a crip or blood. At the same time, somebody could have on a red hat or red shoes, and not be a gang banger. But usually, they just wear certain hats and combinations of colors to where u can guess where they are from.

But in general....it's usually never like the movies, where you drive by a corner in a neighborhood and see 20 dudes in ALL red or blue, from head to toe.

I haven't been to L.A. in years now, but I'm the under the impression that if you wanna know what hood someone's from these days, it basically comes down to tats, maybe the way they talk (I still remember hearing "cuzz" and "loc" get tossed around), or usually just where you are.  When I was coming up, I remember what you said about cats wearing certain sports hats and jerseys and stuff like that, but these days, I hear even that shit's played out - any kind of dress code, and One-Time will learn it and use that against them.  Of course, the colors thing is WAY outdated now, and it was even before "Colors" came out - except for the double- or triple-OGs' that have been banging for 20-plus years, you ain't gonna see many folks going out blued up/flamed up these days.
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Post by: papa-smurf on January 13, 2006, 09:43:37 PM
Props,This the best read i ever read on the internet,Interesting read.
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Post by: papa-smurf on January 13, 2006, 10:06:29 PM
My rumors and facts about crooked i,tray-d and snoop,spider loc,and 2pac

 i know tray-d is a real nigga,My homeboy chico from 60's use 2 live in hawthorne and me and my homies use 2 fucc with chico and tray-d use 2 always come over and play basketball with the homies at the park and just kicc it,THats when the eastsiders was famous,But My big cousin r.i.p that started  ICG,a gang in long beach that tray d is from knew tray d and tray d is a real nigga,Tray d know boxing so thats why he win's all or most of his fights,He know where 2 hit a person 2 knock them out,TRay d Always been a good fighter and a rider and his rep is 100 percent official in the streets,Snoop was from icg then he turned 20's,
Crooked i is  affiliated with Icg,the same hood as tray-d,The same hood my big cousin started,Thats why crooked i always sporting and repersenting the raiders,Raidres repersent icg,anybody from long beach that wear raiders is most likely affiliated with icg,Crooked i is a real nigga from what i know,Loon is from a gang called mensfield gangsta crip,Located in a good area where people have money at but they still gang bang hard over there and kill shit,
everybody know spider loc is from ecc and he set up some of his homies and alot of niggas from ecc is trying  2 kill him because of that,
2pac never gang banged but he use 2 run with alot of niggas from IVC,a hood thats located in inglewood,THats why he have dedication songs dedicated 2 kado and mento who is 2 of the ivc dead homies that is well known,Alot of the thug life rap group is from IVC,
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Post by: SlickPants on January 13, 2006, 10:39:24 PM
fuckin dope read, thanks to everyone (esp rtistic) sharing the info
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Post by: 3 STRIKES on January 13, 2006, 11:22:32 PM
GOOD LOOKIN SHIT WUS COOL. THATS FUCKED UP ABOUT J WELLS NOT FROM THE WEST CUZ THIS NIGGA THAT SOLD ME HIS CD AT 7 ELEVEN ONE DAY TOLD ME HE IS AND HE HAD A LOT OF NIGGAS FROM THE WEST ON IS ALBUM THATS WHY I GOT IT AND NOT A BOOTLEG. "IF ITS TRUE"
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 14, 2006, 02:33:15 AM
My rumors and facts about crooked i,tray-d and snoop,spider loc,and 2pac

 i know tray-d is a real nigga,My homeboy chico from 60's use 2 live in hawthorne and me and my homies use 2 fucc with chico and tray-d use 2 always come over and play basketball with the homies at the park and just kicc it,THats when the eastsiders was famous,But My big cousin r.i.p that started  ICG,a gang in long beach that tray d is from knew tray d and tray d is a real nigga,Tray d know boxing so thats why he win's all or most of his fights,He know where 2 hit a person 2 knock them out,TRay d Always been a good fighter and a rider and his rep is 100 percent official in the streets,Snoop was from icg then he turned 20's,
Crooked i is  affiliated with Icg,the same hood as tray-d,The same hood my big cousin started,Thats why crooked i always sporting and repersenting the raiders,Raidres repersent icg,anybody from long beach that wear raiders is most likely affiliated with icg,Crooked i is a real nigga from what i know,Loon is from a gang called mensfield gangsta crip,Located in a good area where people have money at but they still gang bang hard over there and kill shit,
everybody know spider loc is from ecc and he set up some of his homies and alot of niggas from ecc is trying  2 kill him because of that,
2pac never gang banged but he use 2 run with alot of niggas from IVC,a hood thats located in inglewood,THats why he have dedication songs dedicated 2 kado and mento who is 2 of the ivc dead homies that is well known,Alot of the thug life rap group is from IVC,


LOL, damn...I never really knew much about Snoop streetwise, since I was just 8 when he dropped. With Loon, my cousin who's Murs brother told me that he went 2 Beverly Hills high and that he was a crip but it was just hard to believe. He is the one who told me he got _____'s chain back. But I am sure he was from somewhere on that side of town, because Murs n his bro Nate's grandparents stay dead in the middle of Mansfields, right off of Pico near La Brea around the corner from Roscoes, right by Okie Dog. I was over there a week n some ago, and damn the Mansfields had EVERYTHING graffitti over there....most said W LA MFGC 3X. To me, that neighborhood is sorta nice, and still grimey as fuck at the same time. Most of Mid City is grimey now, more so than the south part of LA such as where Gardena starts and where Raymond 120s and 111s n all them are located, but it used to be a very nice exclusive area for blacks. When Murs grandparents moved there, it was a very nice neighborhood, and their house is still nice. But shit definitely goes down around there, and their homeboy got shot right in front of their grandparents house before, that shit was crazy.

I didn't know Pac ran with IVC, that's interesting. They are very close to where I stay, but I rarely hear about em...I just always see their grafitti when I get off the 105 on Crenshaw, comin from the 110. I know their hood is right there at the border of Inglewood and Hawthorne, and much of their hood is actually considered Hawthorne now. I never really knew anything about Thug Life, and definitely didn't know that they were from IVC, so that's crazy.

Good lookin on all of that.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Soopafly on January 14, 2006, 11:04:24 AM
Its funni you brought the Spider thing up about cats wantin 2 catch up with him in the streets .. Your the 3rd person Ive heard this from in the past week   ..
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: ABN on January 14, 2006, 11:11:19 AM
hmm the thing about Spider and his hood could make sense coz Game was shouting out members of ECC on G-Unit Crips(even giving props to one from 97th street). why is it damn near impossible for rap niggas to stay cool with the people they grew up ???
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: late night on January 14, 2006, 11:13:29 AM
props good read
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: i B 2 QUIK 2 c on January 14, 2006, 11:32:46 AM
definately a good read 8)

yall should read the DEATH ROW RECORDS HISTORY posts that TobbyTizzle did a while back...

here's the links

Part I
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=72465.0


Part II
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73055.0

its a REALLY good read! the dude compiled information from a lot of sources and made a chronological history of the label with a lot of unknown facts and informed rumors... too bad the pictures are down now cause there were some rare pics too.... booooooooo

peace
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Eihtball on January 14, 2006, 11:33:08 AM
I didn't know Pac ran with IVC, that's interesting. They are very close to where I stay, but I rarely hear about em...I just always see their grafitti when I get off the 105 on Crenshaw, comin from the 110. I know their hood is right there at the border of Inglewood and Hawthorne, and much of their hood is actually considered Hawthorne now. I never really knew anything about Thug Life, and definitely didn't know that they were from IVC, so that's crazy.

It actually makes sense because Big Syke is from IVC hood, but then again, Pac has never been much into set-trippin'.  He's been down with a lot of cats who were from the Crip card (Above The Law, Syke, etc.), and then he signed to Death Row under a Piru.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 14, 2006, 03:37:11 PM
I didn't know Pac ran with IVC, that's interesting. They are very close to where I stay, but I rarely hear about em...I just always see their grafitti when I get off the 105 on Crenshaw, comin from the 110. I know their hood is right there at the border of Inglewood and Hawthorne, and much of their hood is actually considered Hawthorne now. I never really knew anything about Thug Life, and definitely didn't know that they were from IVC, so that's crazy.

It actually makes sense because Big Syke is from IVC hood, but then again, Pac has never been much into set-trippin'.  He's been down with a lot of cats who were from the Crip card (Above The Law, Syke, etc.), and then he signed to Death Row under a Piru.

Damn I didn't know Syke was from there either. I donno what the deal is with them...I don't even know what school they go to. I don't hear much about them or Watergate, and those are within 5 minutes of where I stay. Do y'all know if Slip Capone is from IVC too? Because he claims Hawthorne, and it isn't too many crip sets other than Hawthorne 118 which I heard are Crips but I donno much about, and IVC's hood is now Hawthorne.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Eihtball on January 14, 2006, 03:48:42 PM
I have no idea who Slip Capone rolls with, or even if he rolls with anyone at all.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: papa-smurf on January 14, 2006, 05:13:57 PM
Yea slip capone is from 118,They or crips,But Hawthorne is mostly clicks,like thug family,mobstyle pimps and clicks like that is up in Hawthorne,But IVC dont really have a school,some went 2 hawthorne high,leuzinger,But they mostly went 2 schools like inglewood high and that other school thats in CMG hood,So the ivc's was on the down low and wasnt realy out there at school because they went 2 they worst enemy school's,From what i was told,Dont know how true that is,But i know fa sho that some of the thug life members is from IVC and 2pac always dedicated songs 2 the IVC dead homies,LIke kado and mento,But its rare 2 run into someone from IVC,If they grafitti wasnt always on the wall then i  would of thought they didnt exist anymore,But like  i actually seen 2 pretty females that work at the albertsons up in hawthorne that was talking out loud and they kept saying on IVC after every thing they said,so i take it that they was from ivc,But they looked real pretty,I would have never thought they was gang bangers,But i heard that they got a quite of few lil homies from ivc,I know a girl that stay over there right in they hood,
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 14, 2006, 06:14:45 PM
Yea slip capone is from 118,They or crips,But Hawthorne is mostly clicks,like thug family,mobstyle pimps and clicks like that is up in Hawthorne,But IVC dont really have a school,some went 2 hawthorne high,leuzinger,But they mostly went 2 schools like inglewood high and that other school thats in CMG hood,So the ivc's was on the down low and wasnt realy out there at school because they went 2 they worst enemy school's,From what i was told,Dont know how true that is,But i know fa sho that some of the thug life members is from IVC and 2pac always dedicated songs 2 the IVC dead homies,LIke kado and mento,But its rare 2 run into someone from IVC,If they grafitti wasnt always on the wall then i  would of thought they didnt exist anymore,But like  i actually seen 2 pretty females that work at the albertsons up in hawthorne that was talking out loud and they kept saying on IVC after every thing they said,so i take it that they was from ivc,But they looked real pretty,I would have never thought they was gang bangers,But i heard that they got a quite of few lil homies from ivc,I know a girl that stay over there right in they hood,


Damn...yeah, you are prolly talkin about Morningside as the school in CMG hood, and yeah that is the closest one to them. Yeah I only know their hood cause of the grafitti around there.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Dubz on January 14, 2006, 10:33:12 PM
dam great read everyone who put shiit up. best shit i seen on a board in a long ass time
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: TuSlic on January 15, 2006, 05:26:10 AM
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Loon is from a gang called mensfield gangsta crip,Located in a good area where people have money at but they still gang bang hard over there and kill shit,

its mansfield crips, I live in they hood and loon from it and so is that rapper T-Money who rapped on that la konfidental mixtape and some otha shit. 

I went to middle school with omari, he used to live in my hood, that nigga jumped my homie back in the day, he bought the old apartment building he used to live in off pico and highland.

Krondon live down the block from me on hudson and dockwilder, always see this nigga at the liquor store, he be tuff with hella niggaz that cant keep they eyes to theyself, lur drive a green volvo prolly like a 98 lol. 

i heard houstan was a lil buster, the homie aired that nigga out on the radio real bad, lol they wouldnt cut it off they just let that nigga keep talkin

When bone thugs first came to la they got a lot of love from the mansfields, mansfields are affilated with a lot of rappers.  Like D-Mac who fucks with game.  My boy told me game used to have a lil apartment out in thousand oaks and lived with lots of mansfields.  Don't no if thats the truth though.

lol one of the rappers that used to fuck with my camp got jumped by eastwood at a party, the whole hood no about that shit, nigga done went ghost, tryed to get that nigga to come threw and record and he swear he dont remember ever chillin ova here now lmao.

chingy a buster, the homies was up on melrose and saw chingy, one of them said whats up to him, he was about to walk up to the car and some whiteboy shouted out the window mansfield gangsta crip and chingy just walked off.

Knocturnal be reppin long beach and shit but he from baldwin hills/west la and is from west blvd crips

john salleys daughter used to go to la high, she used to get her ass beat all the time cuz she thought she was the shit

hittman is from bity black p stone bloods and used to stay off of bronson and pico in rollin 20 blood hood

strong arm steady owns a barbor shop off of cresent heights and pico

snoop got shot at by the by yo self hustla crips when he got shot at the otha year, magic don juan stays in byshc hood and they was shootin at him cuz of that murder case back in 93 or shit cuz he killed that nigga from venton avenue hustla crips which was a sub set of bysh at the time




Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on January 15, 2006, 06:34:44 AM
Real good read props R-Tistic.

From Loons interview with allhiphop.com  http://www.allhiphop.com/features/index.asp?ID=1198

AllHipHop.com: Why do you say that?

Loon: Ma$e did some real nasty s**t to one certain individual that stirred up some rage between four individuals. Three individuals killed their self off – they are no longer here. Ma$e had a sexual relationship with his goddaughter’s mother. The dude that was her man was a real n***a, that gets down, awesome gun game, heart of a lion and Ma$e knew when he stepped into that situation that he was in over his head. He did it anyway and ran. There was this dude that was trying to [get revenge] on Ma$e by doing things connected to Ma$e – like robbing individuals that might be next to Ma$e. For instance, they robbed Blinky Blink and I had to get his chain back. They robbed Cardan and I had to get his chain back. It was a whole bunch of bulls**t that started to stiff up, because this dude doing something that was totally unnecessary. I respect Jim Jones and them, they made a valiant effort to cut him off at the pass the last time he tried to come back and “dimple” his way back in the game.


Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 15, 2006, 11:28:13 AM
Real good read props R-Tistic.

From Loons interview with allhiphop.com  http://www.allhiphop.com/features/index.asp?ID=1198

AllHipHop.com: Why do you say that?

Loon: Ma$e did some real nasty s**t to one certain individual that stirred up some rage between four individuals. Three individuals killed their self off – they are no longer here. Ma$e had a sexual relationship with his goddaughter’s mother. The dude that was her man was a real n***a, that gets down, awesome gun game, heart of a lion and Ma$e knew when he stepped into that situation that he was in over his head. He did it anyway and ran. There was this dude that was trying to [get revenge] on Ma$e by doing things connected to Ma$e – like robbing individuals that might be next to Ma$e. For instance, they robbed Blinky Blink and I had to get his chain back. They robbed Cardan and I had to get his chain back. It was a whole bunch of bulls**t that started to stiff up, because this dude doing something that was totally unnecessary. I respect Jim Jones and them, they made a valiant effort to cut him off at the pass the last time he tried to come back and “dimple” his way back in the game.

LOL, well there it is. Blinky is a cool dude so I didn't wanna put it out there like that, but I didn't know it was in an interview like that.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 15, 2006, 11:31:29 AM
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Loon is from a gang called mensfield gangsta crip,Located in a good area where people have money at but they still gang bang hard over there and kill shit,

its mansfield crips, I live in they hood and loon from it and so is that rapper T-Money who rapped on that la konfidental mixtape and some otha shit. 

I went to middle school with omari, he used to live in my hood, that nigga jumped my homie back in the day, he bought the old apartment building he used to live in off pico and highland.

Krondon live down the block from me on hudson and dockwilder, always see this nigga at the liquor store, he be tuff with hella niggaz that cant keep they eyes to theyself, lur drive a green volvo prolly like a 98 lol. 

i heard houstan was a lil buster, the homie aired that nigga out on the radio real bad, lol they wouldnt cut it off they just let that nigga keep talkin

When bone thugs first came to la they got a lot of love from the mansfields, mansfields are affilated with a lot of rappers.  Like D-Mac who fucks with game.  My boy told me game used to have a lil apartment out in thousand oaks and lived with lots of mansfields.  Don't no if thats the truth though.

lol one of the rappers that used to fuck with my camp got jumped by eastwood at a party, the whole hood no about that shit, nigga done went ghost, tryed to get that nigga to come threw and record and he swear he dont remember ever chillin ova here now lmao.

chingy a buster, the homies was up on melrose and saw chingy, one of them said whats up to him, he was about to walk up to the car and some whiteboy shouted out the window mansfield gangsta crip and chingy just walked off.

Knocturnal be reppin long beach and shit but he from baldwin hills/west la and is from west blvd crips

john salleys daughter used to go to la high, she used to get her ass beat all the time cuz she thought she was the shit

hittman is from bity black p stone bloods and used to stay off of bronson and pico in rollin 20 blood hood

strong arm steady owns a barbor shop off of cresent heights and pico

snoop got shot at by the by yo self hustla crips when he got shot at the otha year, magic don juan stays in byshc hood and they was shootin at him cuz of that murder case back in 93 or shit cuz he killed that nigga from venton avenue hustla crips which was a sub set of bysh at the time

Oh yeah you do live over there. LOL, y did them niggs grafitti the whole damn hood like that?

I didn't kno that about Knoc, but I vaguely remember hearin somebody say he was from 60s and some cats from West Blvd tend to claim 60s or run with them. Somebody told me Houston is hood and that he rolls with 60s sometimes, but I donno about that. I remember Hittman's close homeboy who was security guard at my HS was a blood, so it makes sense that he is one.

Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: 'EclipZe on January 15, 2006, 11:44:39 AM
speakin of billboard, did anyone else find it weird how game NEVER looked into the camera when standing next to billboard? he would just look at the ground or stare the opposite direction


after checking again, ye i noticed that, what's up with that ?
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: jpm on January 15, 2006, 11:47:24 AM
this aint good shit who cares about hoods and sets and shits THAT MUCH yall being too much wannabe gangstas, except the one that are actually living there and wanna know more about the local gangs...
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: R-Tistic on January 15, 2006, 01:29:43 PM
this aint good shit who cares about hoods and sets and shits THAT MUCH yall being too much wannabe gangstas, except the one that are actually living there and wanna know more about the local gangs...

Well I assume that you aren't talkin to me about that since I'm one of those who live here. I mainly discuss things like that to people who are in the LA area, and that's really the only ones who discuss that because the people who haven't seen it first hand can only go from what they know. I don't see anybody discussin it in here who isn't from LA or at least California.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: papa-smurf on January 15, 2006, 02:49:14 PM
this aint good shit who cares about hoods and sets and shits THAT MUCH yall being too much wannabe gangstas, except the one that are actually living there and wanna know more about the local gangs...

Its funny how someone always wonna start interent banging and talking shit about people they dont no nothing about,He said yall some wonnabe gangstas,lol,How is someone discussing gangs,rumors and facts is wonnabe gangstas,lol,THis dude need a hug.U the only one that said this not a good read,If u feel this is not a good read then dont read it,Keep yo negative opions 2 yo self,
But im a tell u like this,Im pretty sure ite some real niggas that gang bang up in here because i know i got put on my hood at the age of 12 and being in a gang aint nothing 2 be proud of,THat shit got watered down around the year 2000,U aint got 2 be hard now a days 2 be from a hood,I respect niggas that dont gang bang more then i respect niggas that do gang bang now a days,My big cousins is Og's from IVC but they all locked up,When they got locked up is when i stop seeing niggas from ivc,i just see the hit up on the wall's,But i get phone calls from the state pen almost everyday,My big cousin started icg,BUt he dead,since my big cousin started icg,half of the family is from ICG,But thats not where im from and i will never state my hood over the internet,As long as the niggas in the streets know whats up with baby maniac then thats all that count,

But anyway this is a good read,props 2 whoever that started this,THis is the best thread i ever read on here,But niggas gonna always try 2 turn something good 2 someting bad just because they doing bad and they mad so they always got something negative 2 say about everything,so i expected at least one of these unhappy niggas 2 get on here and say something negative,Niggas that dont know nothing about nothing always wonna say something,Niggas like u act like everybody thats doing good is the reason why yo life is fucked up,LIke you just found out yo daddy was yo uncle or something so u wonna take yo anger out on the internet,

Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: TuSlic on January 16, 2006, 03:55:48 PM
Quote
Loon is from a gang called mensfield gangsta crip,Located in a good area where people have money at but they still gang bang hard over there and kill shit,

its mansfield crips, I live in they hood and loon from it and so is that rapper T-Money who rapped on that la konfidental mixtape and some otha shit. 

I went to middle school with omari, he used to live in my hood, that nigga jumped my homie back in the day, he bought the old apartment building he used to live in off pico and highland.

Krondon live down the block from me on hudson and dockwilder, always see this nigga at the liquor store, he be tuff with hella niggaz that cant keep they eyes to theyself, lur drive a green volvo prolly like a 98 lol. 

i heard houstan was a lil buster, the homie aired that nigga out on the radio real bad, lol they wouldnt cut it off they just let that nigga keep talkin

When bone thugs first came to la they got a lot of love from the mansfields, mansfields are affilated with a lot of rappers.  Like D-Mac who fucks with game.  My boy told me game used to have a lil apartment out in thousand oaks and lived with lots of mansfields.  Don't no if thats the truth though.

lol one of the rappers that used to fuck with my camp got jumped by eastwood at a party, the whole hood no about that shit, nigga done went ghost, tryed to get that nigga to come threw and record and he swear he dont remember ever chillin ova here now lmao.

chingy a buster, the homies was up on melrose and saw chingy, one of them said whats up to him, he was about to walk up to the car and some whiteboy shouted out the window mansfield gangsta crip and chingy just walked off.

Knocturnal be reppin long beach and shit but he from baldwin hills/west la and is from west blvd crips

john salleys daughter used to go to la high, she used to get her ass beat all the time cuz she thought she was the shit

hittman is from bity black p stone bloods and used to stay off of bronson and pico in rollin 20 blood hood

strong arm steady owns a barbor shop off of cresent heights and pico

snoop got shot at by the by yo self hustla crips when he got shot at the otha year, magic don juan stays in byshc hood and they was shootin at him cuz of that murder case back in 93 or shit cuz he killed that nigga from venton avenue hustla crips which was a sub set of bysh at the time

Oh yeah you do live over there. LOL, y did them niggs grafitti the whole damn hood like that?

I didn't kno that about Knoc, but I vaguely remember hearin somebody say he was from 60s and some cats from West Blvd tend to claim 60s or run with them. Somebody told me Houston is hood and that he rolls with 60s sometimes, but I donno about that. I remember Hittman's close homeboy who was security guard at my HS was a blood, so it makes sense that he is one.



houstan lived up in pbgc hood, i neva heard of west blvds rollin with 60s, i thought they beefed with each otha.  And the mansfields do have aggressive graffiti up on pico, only niggaz that really be hittin up a lot around here.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 16, 2006, 07:40:16 PM
houstan lived up in pbgc hood, i neva heard of west blvds rollin with 60s, i thought they beefed with each otha.  And the mansfields do have aggressive graffiti up on pico, only niggaz that really be hittin up a lot around here.

I know that West Blvd. runs through 60s hood, and I donno how much further down their actual hood is, or if their hood is located inside of 60s hood. It was a cat at St. Bernards who was from West but he would claim 60s at school. I donno if they beef or not, but you know a lotta hoods over their have on n off beef, even the ones who usually get along like 40s and 60s...and damm, many 60s beef with each other.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 16, 2006, 08:42:21 PM
hmm the thing about Spider and his hood could make sense coz Game was shouting out members of ECC on G-Unit Crips(even giving props to one from 97th street). why is it damn near impossible for rap niggas to stay cool with the people they grew up ???

because the people the rappers grew up with are usually nobodies who expect to live some big glamorous life just because their homie had the talent at rapping. it doesnt always work like that. i mean, atleast be good for somethin on yo own.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 16, 2006, 08:47:07 PM
hmm the thing about Spider and his hood could make sense coz Game was shouting out members of ECC on G-Unit Crips(even giving props to one from 97th street). why is it damn near impossible for rap niggas to stay cool with the people they grew up ???

because the people the rappers grew up with are usually nobodies who expect to live some big glamorous life just because their homie had the talent at rapping. it doesnt always work like that. i mean, atleast be good for somethin on yo own.

Yeah that definitely happens a lot. Sometimes, the rapper will come out and act as if they were much harder than they were in the hood, and as if they ran the set when they didn't do nearly as much as some other cats from the set. But many of them try to live off of the rappers, and if they don't let them milk them, they end up hatin on em.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 16, 2006, 09:11:20 PM
speakin of billboard, did anyone else find it weird how game NEVER looked into the camera when standing next to billboard? he would just look at the ground or stare the opposite direction


after checking again, ye i noticed that, what's up with that ?

r-tistic: get to the bottom of this. asap
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Wicked977 on January 16, 2006, 11:48:42 PM
man alot of dope stuff here propz....
but what about the eses holmes  :bandit:
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: R-Tistic on January 16, 2006, 11:51:09 PM
speakin of billboard, did anyone else find it weird how game NEVER looked into the camera when standing next to billboard? he would just look at the ground or stare the opposite direction


after checking again, ye i noticed that, what's up with that ?

r-tistic: get to the bottom of this. asap

LOL, my guess on that is as good as yours. Maybe he was just intimidated by his presence, I can't call it.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: R-Tistic on January 16, 2006, 11:53:07 PM
man alot of dope stuff here propz....
but what about the eses holmes  :bandit:

LOL, well I am black and I don't know a lot about the hispanic scene as far as rappers, entertainers, schools, gangs, and all of that. And I made the topic so that everybody on here can drop facts/rumors that they know about, so if somebody knows about anything, they can drop it.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + cul
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2006, 04:11:42 PM
speakin of billboard, did anyone else find it weird how game NEVER looked into the camera when standing next to billboard? he would just look at the ground or stare the opposite direction


after checking again, ye i noticed that, what's up with that ?

r-tistic: get to the bottom of this. asap

LOL, my guess on that is as good as yours. Maybe he was just intimidated by his presence, I can't call it.

i see what this is...you're in on it too. IM GONNA GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: TuSlic on January 17, 2006, 07:09:56 PM
houstan lived up in pbgc hood, i neva heard of west blvds rollin with 60s, i thought they beefed with each otha.  And the mansfields do have aggressive graffiti up on pico, only niggaz that really be hittin up a lot around here.

I know that West Blvd. runs through 60s hood, and I donno how much further down their actual hood is, or if their hood is located inside of 60s hood. It was a cat at St. Bernards who was from West but he would claim 60s at school. I donno if they beef or not, but you know a lotta hoods over their have on n off beef, even the ones who usually get along like 40s and 60s...and damm, many 60s beef with each other.

oh no you talkin bout 64 or 68 west blvd crips, im talkin bout the ones over here in baldwin hills 29st west blvd crips, thats where knoc from and they dont fuck with 60s, i dont no nothin bout the otha west blvd crips
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: raphead2001 on January 17, 2006, 08:23:13 PM
i used to live in By yo self hustla crip hood around 2001/2002 and Snoop used to be over there all tha time cuz Don Juan lived right there on hi point. and for yall who don't know, the BY's hold snoop responsible for they big homey dead.. but yea snoop was over there damn near everyday with don juan. he would always have his bodyguards with him. and don juan is a joke imo cuz his rides wasn't nothing pimp. his rolls royce sounded like shit. i seen it at tha body shop on la brea between pico and venice last year. and i live in tha Mansfields hood on Pico. and i heard freeway got jacked at tha club right next to oki dogg a while back.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: Sir Petey on April 23, 2011, 08:26:47 PM
little do most know daz and kurupts first initial feud wasnt over fame or money...one time kurupt and natina from blaque were having a barbque and daz came over and enjoyed a huge meal of ribs and potato salad after eating his third plate he quietly excused himself to the restroom, daz dropped one of the biggest most horrible shits ever to emerge from a humans ass and ended up using way to much toilet paper because of a severe case of mud butt...

the toilet ended up getting clogged and flooded all over the floor. daz emerged from the bathroom sweating and breathing heavy and all of the sudden looked at his cell phone and exclaimed "aye cuzz, I dont mean to eat and run but i got some buisness to attend to i put that on 21." so he gave  kurupt a pound and proceded to leave but not before grabbing another plate of food and he left in a hurry.

The next morning natina went into the guest bathroom and much to her surprise and disgust the floor was flooded with piss water and fragments of daz partially flushed bowel movements. kurupt knew it was daz becasue every since he could remember daz was notorious for clogging toilets at album release parties and industry functions, he called daz and asked him why he didnt use the plunger and daz denied it was him, he even went as far as to blame his friend jamar stamps aka bad azz

years after they reunited daz admitted he should have been the bigger man and at least tried to chop the turd in half with the plunger.
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 23, 2011, 08:42:50 PM
little do most know daz and kurupts first initial feud wasnt over fame or money...one time kurupt and natina from blaque were having a barbque and daz came over and enjoyed a huge meal of ribs and potato salad after eating his third plate he quietly excused himself to the restroom, daz dropped one of the biggest most horrible shits ever to emerge from a humans ass and ended up using way to much toilet paper because of a severe case of mud butt...

the toilet ended up getting clogged and flooded all over the floor. daz emerged from the bathroom sweating and breathing heavy and all of the sudden looked at his cell phone and exclaimed "aye cuzz, I dont mean to eat and run but i got some buisness to attend to i put that on 21." so he gave  kurupt a pound and proceded to leave but not before grabbing another plate of food and he left in a hurry.

The next morning natina went into the guest bathroom and much to her surprise and disgust the floor was flooded with piss water and fragments of daz partially flushed bowel movements. kurupt knew it was daz becasue every since he could remember daz was notorious for clogging toilets at album release parties and industry functions, he called daz and asked him why he didnt use the plunger and daz denied it was him, he even went as far as to blame his friend jamar stamps aka bad azz

years after they reunited daz admitted he should have been the bigger man and at least tried to chop the turd in half with the plunger.

lmfao
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: awol22222 on April 23, 2011, 08:48:16 PM
little do most know daz and kurupts first initial feud wasnt over fame or money...one time kurupt and natina from blaque were having a barbque and daz came over and enjoyed a huge meal of ribs and potato salad after eating his third plate he quietly excused himself to the restroom, daz dropped one of the biggest most horrible shits ever to emerge from a humans ass and ended up using way to much toilet paper because of a severe case of mud butt...

the toilet ended up getting clogged and flooded all over the floor. daz emerged from the bathroom sweating and breathing heavy and all of the sudden looked at his cell phone and exclaimed "aye cuzz, I dont mean to eat and run but i got some buisness to attend to i put that on 21." so he gave  kurupt a pound and proceded to leave but not before grabbing another plate of food and he left in a hurry.

The next morning natina went into the guest bathroom and much to her surprise and disgust the floor was flooded with piss water and fragments of daz partially flushed bowel movements. kurupt knew it was daz becasue every since he could remember daz was notorious for clogging toilets at album release parties and industry functions, he called daz and asked him why he didnt use the plunger and daz denied it was him, he even went as far as to blame his friend jamar stamps aka bad azz

years after they reunited daz admitted he should have been the bigger man and at least tried to chop the turd in half with the plunger.

lmfao
Title: Re: Random, lesser known, and rarely known facts, + rumors, about L.A. Rap + culture
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 23, 2011, 08:59:03 PM
My rumors and facts about crooked i,tray-d and snoop,spider loc,and 2pac

 i know tray-d is a real nigga,My homeboy chico from 60's use 2 live in hawthorne and me and my homies use 2 fucc with chico and tray-d use 2 always come over and play basketball with the homies at the park and just kicc it,THats when the eastsiders was famous,But My big cousin r.i.p that started  ICG,a gang in long beach that tray d is from knew tray d and tray d is a real nigga,Tray d know boxing so thats why he win's all or most of his fights,He know where 2 hit a person 2 knock them out,TRay d Always been a good fighter and a rider and his rep is 100 percent official in the streets,Snoop was from icg then he turned 20's,
Crooked i is  affiliated with Icg,the same hood as tray-d,The same hood my big cousin started,Thats why crooked i always sporting and repersenting the raiders,Raidres repersent icg,anybody from long beach that wear raiders is most likely affiliated with icg,Crooked i is a real nigga from what i know,Loon is from a gang called mensfield gangsta crip,Located in a good area where people have money at but they still gang bang hard over there and kill shit,
everybody know spider loc is from ecc and he set up some of his homies and alot of niggas from ecc is trying  2 kill him because of that,
2pac never gang banged but he use 2 run with alot of niggas from IVC,a hood thats located in inglewood,THats why he have dedication songs dedicated 2 kado and mento
who is 2 of the ivc dead homies that is well known,Alot of the thug life rap group is from IVC,



Syke, Rated and MAcadoshis banged

not sure at all about Mopreme