yep exactly...hopefully they make these necessary moves during these weeks leading up to Spring Training

Weeks leading up to spring training?  Don’t you mean months?  Jan and Feb are dead things don’t pick up till March I think

The "rocket science" is the whole "producer" vs "beatmaker" is only brought when dre is mentioned and it sounds like its THE argument when trying to justifying" dres actions.

u can believe that

or u can read every comment from the legends in the ig post and see them explain how dre is a master at all of it and taught them everything they know

your choice 

Supposedly his own step-brother Dre.   And can you imagine being #1 (as Warren G was in 1994) and your own best friend (Snoop) doesn't even think you are dope enough to ever use your production.  Even on the 213 album he doesn't use Warren's production.  And that's just for starters.  Look at all the lists that have came around of best rap artists he will never even make it top 50 or top 100, I don't even see him on producer lists....I even stopped being a fan of his after Midnite Hour.  Even his interviews or just as a West Coast personality, he acts nervous, and stutters, and fumbles all over himself -- it just ain't hittin...

So it's like I even was reminding myself when I made my post.  I brought up his name just in fun with Sccit, and wanted to add a video for my post and rewatched "This DJ" video for the first time since 1994, and you see his confidence in the video, and I suddenly remembered my best friend and I from 94' bumpin his album all summer, and everyone talking about him, and just how fun and great that summer was, they used to have "JAM OF THE WEEK" on MTV and every time you'd look up from Regulate to This DJ to Do You See, it seemed like everytime this dude was JAM OF THE WEEK and on FIRE!!

I was more reminding myself and HiEyeCue and Soopafly (the poster) guys my age, reminding them, like, damn man.. remember when this dude was THE MAN and he was literally like #1 during the golden era of rap.  94 you had Wutang blowing up, you had Nas, Ice Cube was doing "Bop Gun" and "You Know How We Do It", but honestly for anyone old enough back then especially if you were in the Midwest or West Coast Warren G was larger than all of them.  #1.   Snoop even went to the MTV Awards show at the end of the summer and I remember distinctly him specifically saying, "I'm just here to support my homeboy Warren G!"

Warren G was big in europe too

dre is both .... not rocket science

The "rocket science" is the whole "producer" vs "beatmaker" is only brought when dre is mentioned and it sounds like its THE argument when trying to justifying" dres actions.

The same Milkbone who did Keep it Real back in the days?

Yes

Interesting.. Suge still had them going at Big and Puff in 98

Is it new for you?

Yeah that looks hella suspect.  And even the two guys you are counting on still have a little question mark.  They are going to have to make a move.  There is no way you can expect to be a playoff team, and you are starting a season with only two starters you are confident in and then 3 other guys that you are giving an oppurtunity to. 

I watched this video and they had to list a couple guys that they want to go out and get from other teams just to fill in the rotation.



I thought the Mets were a playoff caliber team but if they don't add one or two legit starters before opening day then they are in some serious trouble--I don't care how good the offense is.  There is a saying in baseball they say good pitching beats good hitting.  So they can have all the hitting in the world but if the starter on the other team is having a good day then good pitching beats good hitting.

yep exactly...hopefully they make these necessary moves during these weeks leading up to Spring Training

It was a dope song, but I didn't think as a kid that Red's verse was any better than anyone else on the track.  To me it just felt like a posse cut and group feel and then 2pac's presence sort of stands out even though 2pac allegedly (I disagree) isn't the most lyrical, you do feel his presence when he enters the room and Daz or Quik or whoever put in that bit of change up to the beat that fits perfect when Pac comes in.

First off--Rhyme and Reason.  I'm not the biggest Redman fan, but the thing that did make me check him out as a kid, was his part in the documentary Rhyme and Reason where he's like on the streets in the park like ol school style participating in park jams and shit like that and he's quoted saying, "YOU SEE ME I"M OUT HERE ON THE STREETZ--AND I"M GOLD, MY SHIT IS GOLD!"  I thought that was kind of dope just how he was hustlin like a no name artist who just loved the culture and wanted to be in the streetz but meanwhile the dude has a gold record.

Secondly, Eminem was always biggin this guy up as his favorite rapper.  So in 99' when Eminem became my favorite rapper, I was like, okay, I got to check out Redman.

yeah his verse stood out to me because I really never listened to Redman until I heard that track and then I had to check out his previous 2 albums

I don't necessarily think he was better than anyone else on the track except for Daz who you can barely hear on it...I would have loved to hear what Rage came up with on the OG

his verse on "Got My Mind Made Up" really made me a fan

"Ayo, lyrical gat spittin' the criminal tactics
Non-believers get my dick and genital backwards
Let's face it, there's no replacement
Taste this mad underground basement shit I'm laced with
Avalanche on your whole camp when I'm splifted
Funk Doctor, who? Spock, bitch, don't get it twisted
I got connects like Federal Express
To get the fresh package of bless the dogs can't fetch
Got the clear spot from the rear block
To bust 'til every nigga here drop, men, I fear not
Hold your nose and blow out 'til your ears pop
Since your crew suit you to shift
Now, you claim that your gears locked
Whiff this underground cannabis
I'm dangerous like John the Bomb Analyst
Flip MCs like ki's
My degrees freeze consecutively, like EPMD LPs
Lick off a shot and hit your fam by mistake
So I erase the whole front row at the wake
I planned my escape in case Jake wanna snake
Bust it, I'm the one pushin' the hearse, in the first place
Confidence for you shaky-ass folks
Pump for Rockafella for the day he got smoke
Choke off this antidote, got you hope
Get roast by my lyrical Billy Dee .45 Colt
(And I'm out for nine-nickel)"

It was a dope song, but I didn't think as a kid that Red's verse was any better than anyone else on the track.  To me it just felt like a posse cut and group feel and then 2pac's presence sort of stands out even though 2pac allegedly (I disagree) isn't the most lyrical, you do feel his presence when he enters the room and Daz or Quik or whoever put in that bit of change up to the beat that fits perfect when Pac comes in.

First off--Rhyme and Reason.  I'm not the biggest Redman fan, but the thing that did make me check him out as a kid, was his part in the documentary Rhyme and Reason where he's like on the streets in the park like ol school style participating in park jams and shit like that and he's quoted saying, "YOU SEE ME I"M OUT HERE ON THE STREETZ--AND I"M GOLD, MY SHIT IS GOLD!"  I thought that was kind of dope just how he was hustlin like a no name artist who just loved the culture and wanted to be in the streetz but meanwhile the dude has a gold record.

Secondly, Eminem was always biggin this guy up as his favorite rapper.  So in 99' when Eminem became my favorite rapper, I was like, okay, I got to check out Redman.

Nolan Mclean - future ace...in 8starts he was 5-1 with a 2.06 ERA 48IP 57K...the only drawback I saw was the 18 walks but he tends to get out of the jams he does create

now for the rest

Kodai Senga - great rookie season in '23 coming over from Japan but since then he has been injured and when healthy inconsitent...he was also sent to the minors in September of last year when we were in the race becuase he couldnt get anybody out, never a good sign

Clay Holmes-came over from the Yankees and the Mets made him a starter...I like him but the doesnt go deep into games

Sean Manaea - signed a big contract after the '24 season and was injured and inconsistent last year when he came back

David Petersen - I like him, he had a very good 1st half and made the all star team but went downhill after the break

now the other 2 rookies

Brandon Sproat - I like his stuff but he only pitched in like 20 innings and had a 4.79 ERA...I need to see more though

Jonah Tong - he was maybe the biggest disappointment, he dominated in the minors last year but in 18 innings he gave up 16 runs and had a 7.71 ERA...no bueno

so basically I'm only confident in Mclean and Holmes and even then not 100%...I do have hope however that at least one of the other young 2 pitchers will develop

Yeah that looks hella suspect.  And even the two guys you are counting on still have a little question mark.  They are going to have to make a move.  There is no way you can expect to be a playoff team, and you are starting a season with only two starters you are confident in and then 3 other guys that you are giving an oppurtunity to. 

I watched this video and they had to list a couple guys that they want to go out and get from other teams just to fill in the rotation.



I thought the Mets were a playoff caliber team but if they don't add one or two legit starters before opening day then they are in some serious trouble--I don't care how good the offense is.  There is a saying in baseball they say good pitching beats good hitting.  So they can have all the hitting in the world but if the starter on the other team is having a good day then good pitching beats good hitting.