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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2002, 05:50:50 PM »
I never understood why people like Kobe so much.  To me he's good, but not all that.  
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2002, 11:30:57 PM »
I never understood why people like Kobe so much.  To me he's good, but not all that.  

word....its only these foolish cali folks lol
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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2002, 08:13:31 AM »
^^^i agree..kobe is nowhere near the best guard in the nba...i could name at least 5 if not 10 guards who are better than him in the nba right now...but you can't really blame those sad peeps who consider kobe the best since out of all guards, he gets the most hype and attention...
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2003, 02:51:09 PM »
I never understood why people like Kobe so much.  To me he's good, but not all that.  

word....its only these foolish cali folks lol

its just like that, agree 100%
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2003, 10:19:15 PM »
LMFAO@the people hating on Kobe...I doubt any of yall even watched a whole Laker game...Kobe is amazing...he gets a triple double almost every other game...That is simply amazing...Now quit hating...PeACe
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2003, 12:41:41 AM »
every important and albmost every other basketball analyst in the country/world (ex in sacramento lol) will tell you kobe is the best all around player most of which are not in cali.....so there goes all your arguments there guys


kobe has every thing offensively any of these other players (ex shaq) in the NBA have and he has DEFENSE TOO, something that almost every all star lacks , it's either or, the only other guard that has D and O is gary payton.....which should almost be argreed isn't even on the level as kobe, becuase he lacks the intenisty, heart, and will to win (kobe has won 3 straight championships and is INTENT on winning every single one til his death/retirement)  while gary payton has been to the finals once and doesn't really care about winning a championship that much any more it's all about the $ and individule accomplishments

kobe has matured RAPIDLY he is now all about his teamates and making them better now
kobe was exalted by EVERY GM in the NBA when the nba polled them


kobe is just simply the man now, after shaq and kobe squashed their beef kobe has prooved his hype, he can do EVERYTHING now , no one in the NBA can do what he does

DUNK
PASS
DRIBBLE
HANDLE
CUT
SHOOT
MAKE SHOTS
CREATE SHOTS
D
MAKE TEAMMATES BETTER




and the only reason why he's the 2nd option on his team is ......LOOOK WHO THE FUCK HE"S PLAYING WITH!!!!!!!! the soon to be if not the already G.O.A.T of all centers......the most dominating player EVER, the most DEMANDING PLAYER ever!!!! SHAQUILLE RASHAD O'NEAL!!!!! allen iverson tracy mcgrady paul pierce would ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl be averaging 13-15 points a game if they were playing with him. but Kobe has the ability to be 2nd banna for 3 quarters and come into the 4th and be the main option . 1 quarter folks ONE fucking quauter IF THAT! of being the main option and look at his averages. look at his full stat's . DUDE gets rebounds , assists, AND POINTS .


Kobe is a great player playing behind a GOAT folks if he was on the magic or the sixers or raptors his stock would be THAT much greater


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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2003, 04:43:09 AM »
What are you basing that on?  Wilt was great, most consecutive games played, never fouled out of 1 game, highest scorer ever, but I would still say Jordan is best all around.  I didn't use to think that, until he returned from his retirement and cemented his legacy (the first time).  I'd say best ever would be like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Chamberlain, Jabbar, Maravich, in no order.  

Tech, u tha homie...but this is stupid dawg lol

Jordan is by far the best player the game has EVER seen. True, its hard to really compare these 2 since wilt and MJ play 2 different positions...but Wilts dominance was a DIRECT result of his size. Jordans wasnt. Not to mention, anybody who playz basketball on here...understandz the way skill level is divided on a basketball court. The taller u are, the less skill u need. Manute Bol neva pulled a crossover lol. Tha way sports go, as time moves on...people always get better. So this needs to be more an argument of "who was better for their time". 30 years from now, there will be a player who is better then Jordan. And all sports go that way. Muhammed Ali was the greatest, however...if u put him against alot of Heavyweights now...he'd lose. And i believe that. Atheletes always get stronger, faster, and quiker...as training techniques improve.

Now, for all of the people who are claiming that the best player of all time, has something to do wit versatility (especially in the stat section) need to remember tha Big O...and put him up for consideration. He was the ultimate point guard. And IMO, the best ever (YES, above MAGIC laker fanz). Who else has, or ever will average a triple double in this league? No one. As unreachable as Wilts 100 points seems...it COULD be done, but to average a triple double for an entire season, i dont think so.

Also, some of yall seem to think it has to do wit who revolutionized the game the most. Yes, Wilt did revolutionize the game VERY much. As much as anyone. But youre still forgetting some people...

One, being Dr J. He was the first...really...to turn the game above the rim (Dominique, Jordan, etc). Pete Marovich, was the first to bring the fancy passing to the game (Magic, etc.). And one person who i was alwayz a HUGE fan of but everyone seemz to overlook....iz Isiah Thomas. He changed the whole way the point guard position was played. IMO, even more then Magic did. Isiah was really the man who brought that flash wit tha handlez that EVERY guard of today triez tah exemplify.


Basically, i believe Jordan iz tha greatest ever. BUT.....its hard to really compare players of all different sizes, positions, and times in history. Theyll never play eachother...and even say, if Jordan, Wilt, and Oscar Robertson were all in the same time...they wouldnt even guard eachother.


 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2003, 08:36:49 AM »
every important and albmost every other basketball analyst in the country/world (ex in sacramento lol) will tell you kobe is the best all around player most of which are not in cali.....so there goes all your arguments there guys


kobe has every thing offensively any of these other players (ex shaq) in the NBA have and he has DEFENSE TOO, something that almost every all star lacks , it's either or, the only other guard that has D and O is gary payton.....which should almost be argreed isn't even on the level as kobe, becuase he lacks the intenisty, heart, and will to win (kobe has won 3 straight championships and is INTENT on winning every single one til his death/retirement)  while gary payton has been to the finals once and doesn't really care about winning a championship that much any more it's all about the $ and individule accomplishments

kobe has matured RAPIDLY he is now all about his teamates and making them better now
kobe was exalted by EVERY GM in the NBA when the nba polled them


kobe is just simply the man now, after shaq and kobe squashed their beef kobe has prooved his hype, he can do EVERYTHING now , no one in the NBA can do what he does

DUNK
PASS
DRIBBLE
HANDLE
CUT
SHOOT
MAKE SHOTS
CREATE SHOTS
D
MAKE TEAMMATES BETTER




and the only reason why he's the 2nd option on his team is ......LOOOK WHO THE FUCK HE"S PLAYING WITH!!!!!!!! the soon to be if not the already G.O.A.T of all centers......the most dominating player EVER, the most DEMANDING PLAYER ever!!!! SHAQUILLE RASHAD O'NEAL!!!!! allen iverson tracy mcgrady paul pierce would ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl be averaging 13-15 points a game if they were playing with him. but Kobe has the ability to be 2nd banna for 3 quarters and come into the 4th and be the main option . 1 quarter folks ONE fucking quauter IF THAT! of being the main option and look at his averages. look at his full stat's . DUDE gets rebounds , assists, AND POINTS .


Kobe is a great player playing behind a GOAT folks if he was on the magic or the sixers or raptors his stock would be THAT much greater

LMAO!!!
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2003, 11:33:51 AM »
Minority obviously doen't know his basketball... ::)



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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2003, 12:15:11 PM »
Minority obviously doen't know his basketball... ::)



Stick to chinese soccer buddy...PeACe

no its not that i don't know about basketball...its just that your hero kobe is nowhere near the best guard in the NBA...

p.s. its federal international football association not chinese soccer....lmao
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2003, 12:51:40 PM »
Minority obviously doen't know his basketball... ::)



Stick to chinese soccer buddy...PeACe

no its not that i don't know about basketball...its just that your hero kobe is nowhere near the best guard in the NBA...

p.s. its federal international football association not chinese soccer....lmao



wow...than I guess u know more than every sports journalist & basketball analyst...U judge Kobe on ESPN highlight plays...come on, let's be real...How many players have as many triple doubles as Kobe?
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2003, 03:10:09 PM »
i must concede defeat,..yall convinced my ass good...that climax was tone callin me stupid lol....and btw, LOL @ chinese soccer, fuckin dumb ass
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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2003, 03:44:54 PM »
i must concede defeat,..yall convinced my ass good...that climax was tone callin me stupid lol....and btw, LOL @ chinese soccer, fuckin dumb ass

It's sad that people have to resort to personal disses....
 

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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2003, 09:43:18 PM »
its also sad that a grown man like yourself is on my nuts

and it is sad when someone makes a reference to "chinese soccer" simply because the poster is Korean and likes soccer, that is so ignorant its not even funny, NIK is a piece of shit, and i stand by that comment, an egotistical ignorant upper class snotty piece of shit
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Re:Michael Jordan isnt the greatest basketball player ever.....
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2003, 10:52:14 PM »
every important and albmost every other basketball analyst in the country/world (ex in sacramento lol) will tell you kobe is the best all around player most of which are not in cali.....so there goes all your arguments there guys


kobe has every thing offensively any of these other players (ex shaq) in the NBA have and he has DEFENSE TOO, something that almost every all star lacks , it's either or, the only other guard that has D and O is gary payton.....which should almost be argreed isn't even on the level as kobe, becuase he lacks the intenisty, heart, and will to win (kobe has won 3 straight championships and is INTENT on winning every single one til his death/retirement)  while gary payton has been to the finals once and doesn't really care about winning a championship that much any more it's all about the $ and individule accomplishments

kobe has matured RAPIDLY he is now all about his teamates and making them better now
kobe was exalted by EVERY GM in the NBA when the nba polled them


kobe is just simply the man now, after shaq and kobe squashed their beef kobe has prooved his hype, he can do EVERYTHING now , no one in the NBA can do what he does

DUNK
PASS
DRIBBLE
HANDLE
CUT
SHOOT
MAKE SHOTS
CREATE SHOTS
D
MAKE TEAMMATES BETTER




and the only reason why he's the 2nd option on his team is ......LOOOK WHO THE FUCK HE"S PLAYING WITH!!!!!!!! the soon to be if not the already G.O.A.T of all centers......the most dominating player EVER, the most DEMANDING PLAYER ever!!!! SHAQUILLE RASHAD O'NEAL!!!!! allen iverson tracy mcgrady paul pierce would ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl be averaging 13-15 points a game if they were playing with him. but Kobe has the ability to be 2nd banna for 3 quarters and come into the 4th and be the main option . 1 quarter folks ONE fucking quauter IF THAT! of being the main option and look at his averages. look at his full stat's . DUDE gets rebounds , assists, AND POINTS .


Kobe is a great player playing behind a GOAT folks if he was on the magic or the sixers or raptors his stock would be THAT much greater

LMAO!!!

wow so you mean to tell me that YOUR insite is more valuable and true than basketball GM's and analysts who've been apart of basketball longer tha you've been alive!? you mean to tell me your opinion is more sacret than someoe who makes basketball their 9-5!?


excuse the fuck outta me then bud!

just wondering , who DO you put above kobe ??

Vince Carter is a nice highlight reel but what else does he do, he sure doesn't pass well, plays horrible d, can't make his teammates better, has a lack of will to win

Tracy Mccgrady is great, but even himself and all of his teammates (including horace grant whose playedwith both players for a year) said Kobe was better

Allen iverson, LOL......he's just a selfish, egotistical, b-ball gangster, who's already been shut down more than once by kobe over the years.....kobe's always been better than this guy, just look at the 97' rookie game if the west won kobe would've been the mvp

jason kidd, best PG in the League but he's just a passer, yeah he can score and shoot but he's not that reliablein those areas, he has good defence but the only thing he has over kobe is passing , Kobe dicks him in every other concievable stat.


Gary Payton- i give gary payton all the props in the world but i already pointed out why kobe is better

those are the best guards in the league ....they only get consecutively worse if you name any one else





and again Jordan is the best player of all time plain and simple


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