it surprises and shocks you that christmas is banned in saudi arabia?

understand several things...

Saudi Arabia is the birth place of Islam, and the site of Mecca and Medina. It is the most "fundementalist" muslim country in the world.
Obviously, that shouldnt shock yall. Now, christmas is the celebration of Jesus aka God's birth. That very idea is offensive to Muslims, now tell me why the Saudi Arabian govt doesnt have a right to ban the celebration of what muslims consider heresy?

the govt of any country shouldn't have a right to rule the religious beliefs or practices of anyone.  Maybe canada should make it illegal to read the Quran; or Jerusalem should kick all the muslims out simply becuase it's where Christ was born.  

Some people talk in here about how retard so called Islamic countries are.
Just wanna say, that those so called Islamic countries, have some rulers that are managed by the West (USA - UK), for ex. Kingdom Of Saudia Arabia, Kuwait,... You can only judge of an Islamic countrie when there is an Islamic Nation (ruled by the Sharia -Holy Quar'an), and such a countrie isn't existing at the moment.
The last Islamic State was The Ottoman Empire that fell out in pieces thrue Mustafa Kamal (Ataturk).
So i don't think a judgement like " Islamic countries are living in the Stone Age" is because of the Islam.

ISLAM = PEACE.

Another thing, when people of an other religion live under a Islamic State they will be defended by that state when they are being attacked. And other religions are admitted in a Islamic State. You are free to choose.

your analogy is wrong,

would a Christain nation allow a holiday celebrating Jesus;s death?

Yeah.  They do.  It's called Good Friday.  

Some people talk in here about how retard so called Islamic countries are.
Just wanna say, that those so called Islamic countries, have some rulers that are managed by the West (USA - UK), for ex. Kingdom Of Saudia Arabia, Kuwait,... You can only judge of an Islamic countrie when there is an Islamic Nation (ruled by the Sharia -Holy Quar'an), and such a countrie isn't existing at the moment.
The last Islamic State was The Ottoman Empire that fell out in pieces thrue Mustafa Kamal (Ataturk).
So i don't think a judgement like " Islamic countries are living in the Stone Age" is because of the Islam.

ISLAM = PEACE.

Another thing, when people of an other religion live under a Islamic State they will be defended by that state when they are being attacked. And other religions are admitted in a Islamic State. You are free to choose.

Someone has been brainwashed.....

u know what i mean trauma, i mean open rejoice and celebration of Jesus death....and oh yeah the analogy is correct because u are assuming that when i say "christain nation" i mean the West, thats in correct the West are not christain nations, they are secular, wheareas the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an ISLAMIC nation, 100% its official, so obviously they cant officially back the celebration of heresy.

this is just me being the devils advocate, people like c walker need to check out the other side of the fence

Islam might equal peace, but yall got a weird way of showing it sometimes.  

WHO IS "YALL"? I know I aint part of Yall.......I aint in Saudi Arabia banning that shit.......I aint against Christians.......MOST Muslims wheather they in tha Middle East or here are not part of "YALL".......
By MOST I mean over 80% at LEAST.......
Yall are some brainwashed fools.......
Tha Media is fucin wit yur heads.......
Aint none of yall ever been to tha middle east, yall dunno what goes on in society.......
All U see is what tha TALIBAN tha gang is doing and what tha Government of Saudi Arabia does.......

I feel sorry 4 yall.......

Also the rulership of the Taliban wasn't a correct Islamic State ruled by the Sharia. I could also say that all Christians hate Jews, because the Nazi's hated them. Nazi's where Christians. You can't generalise.

And CWalker i ain't brainwashed. I think u've been brainwashed by Media of USA, that's for sure. You should open up you're eyes.

word.. cwalker197 please try and attempt to make friends with the outside world, i know its hard to leave your house with the KKK costume but just sacrifice it for the love and sake of mankind.. terrorism & rascism is not the way you, you have to realise, maybe your in fear of other people and muslims, thats why your full of hate and rascist and maybe this caused you to be mentally disabled and need advanced phychiatric help.

Quote from: E.Trauma on December 28, 2002, 02:36:14 PM

Islam might equal peace, but yall got a weird way of showing it sometimes.  

WHO IS "YALL"? I know I aint part of Yall.......I aint in Saudi Arabia banning that shit.......I aint against Christians.......MOST Muslims wheather they in tha Middle East or here are not part of "YALL".......
By MOST I mean over 80% at LEAST.......
Yall are some brainwashed fools.......
Tha Media is fucin wit yur heads.......
Aint none of yall ever been to tha middle east, yall dunno what goes on in society.......
All U see is what tha TALIBAN tha gang is doing and what tha Government of Saudi Arabia does.......

I feel sorry 4 yall.......

By "Yall got a weird way of showing it sometimes" I should have put "some of yall got a weird way of showing it", I meant that sometimes the way the love is shown from muslims is weird, insinuating that some muslims act weird, not all.  Sorry I should have stated it differently.

Now that that's cleared up, what do you expect us to do, Rod?  Who are the only people that attack our country? Who are the only people that openly rejoice in the streets when we're bombed? Who are the only people who may at any time blow you the hell up?  If I'm in a resturaunt, and a guy walks in the door with a bomb, what religion is he gonna be?

Yall can bitch and complain about us being brainwashed, or racist, or against a religion, or whatever; but the fact stands, that a christian needs to be on guard when a muslim is around.  Things work both ways, sure, and Israel is doing horrible things to muslims, but when it comes down to it, if you've got a room full of christians, and 1 muslim, he's always gonna get looked at weird because of the actions of a few of his brothers.  That's just life, and I don't blame a single person who deals with muslims with caution.  You can't hate or push assumptions on them, but you'd be mentally numb if you didn't at least pass the thought through your head that dude might hate your ass.  That's the world we live in, welcome.