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Its always important to note with these misguided idiots that during Israels preemptive battle with Egypt. The U.S put a reconaissance ship into the oceans called the U.S LIberty. Out of nowhere it was suddenly attacked attacked and bombed by aircraft killing many americans. America immediately ordered an attack on Cairo, planes were armed with nukes and they were basically going to swoop over Cairo and obliterate it killing everyone in the process. At the last moment the planes are suddenly ordered back an investigation is launched and it suddenly becomes apparent that Israeli jets had attacked the ship, with complicit cooperation from many in the U.S government. The aim was to provoke the U.S into believing the Egyptians had viciously murdered american military for absolutely no reason.

So C Walker and other morons if you want to talk about sick fucks, well there is just an example of the sick fucks that control america and israel.
 

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I reiterate another example, the U.N imposed an oil for food program against Iraq, one of those friendly programs which has killed over ONE MILLION IRAQIS. Madelaine Albright appeared on 60 minutes and wahen questioned about this it was put to her that 500,000 iraqi children have died because of these sanctions and when asked if she thought it worth it, she replied yes I think so.

She said it was worth the deaths of half a million children, and this is the same pure evil that is now masquerading yet again as the heroes of this world, its absolutely sick. >:(
 

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Lol congrats you have just proven yourself an idiot, you can't deny what I said so instead you can only call me a name.
 

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Lol congrats you have just proven yourself an idiot, you can't deny what I said so instead you can only call me a name.

once you start criticizing madeleine albright, you are basically criticizing bill clinton.  this causes even the people that passionately believe that bush is an evil man and that bill clinton was leagues better (and hillary will save the world) to become flustered as they realize you are lumping their guy and his team in the same group as the bushes and reagans.   clinton is basically bush-lite.

i don't know if the americans were actually going to nuke egypt.  can you post any links or references to that?
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"The White House knew within minutes of the USS Liberty attack, that the perpetrator was really Israel. On two separate occasions, the White House recalled aircraft rescue missions for the Liberty. On the last attempt, LBJ told Rear-Admiral Lawrence Geis of the Sixth Fleet, “I WILL NOT EMBARRASS OUR ALLY.” The Liberty was then left “dead in the water,” without any assistance for over 16 hours."


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On June 8, 1967, the Israelis attacked the USS Liberty, in international waters, 13 miles off the coast of the Sinai Peninsula, and tried to sink it, and kill all 294 American on board the spy ship (“Assault on the Liberty,” James M. Ennes, Jr. and James Bamford’s “Body of Secrets.”) The Israelis then falsely claimed it was just a case of “mistaken identity.”

However, according to Peter Hounam, the author of the expose’, “Operation Cyanide,” the murderous Israeli attack was a set up to blame the Egyptians and bring the U.S. into the 1967 war on their side. The Liberty was a “sitting duck” for the Israeli jet planes’ missiles and rockets and their torpedo boats. The attack lasted at least 75 minutes, killing 34 brave Americans and wounding 172 others. Liberty survivor, Petty Officer Ernie Gallo, said, “I mean for a group of people, who are suppose to be the children of God, (the Israelis), they didn’t show any mercy for us.”

Both Captain Ward Boston, an ex-Navy attorney, who participated in a Court of Inquiry, with respect to the Liberty, and Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chief of Staff, (who recently died), believe that President Lyndon Baynes Johnson ordered a massive “cover-up” after the attack by the Israelis (10/23/03, CBSNews.com.)

On first hearing of the Liberty attack by allegedly “unidentified aircraft,” the U.S. launched planes from the Sixth Fleet carriers, then located in the Mediterranean, off Crete, armed with nuclear weapons. They were headed for Cairo to retaliate. Only minutes before reaching their target, they were recalled. Why? The Israelis had failed to sink the Liberty! The Zionist predators had mistakenly believed U.S. planes were also on their way to rescue the Liberty, so they were forced to stop their assault. Only then, did they admit to the U.S., that they were the culprits.

According to Hounam’s research, the White House knew within minutes of the Liberty attack, that the perpetrator was really Israel (p. 94). On two separate occasions, the White House recalled aircraft rescue missions for the Liberty. On the last attempt, LBJ told Rear-Admiral Lawrence Geis of the Sixth Fleet, “I WILL NOT EMBARRASS OUR ALLY.” The Liberty was then left “dead in the water,” without any assistance for over 16 hours. (See also, an excellent documentary of the same title by the BBC and affidavits and statements found at USSLiberty.org.)

At pp. 267-268, Hounam said, “Sinking the Liberty and blaming Egypt and the Soviets would have freed Johnson’s hand to do almost anything - even to drop an atomic bomb on Cairo. Trouble only arose when the Israel operation failed - and the damned ship stayed afloat.”

Hounam revealed that within LBJ’s hawkish administration, there was shadowy clique that met under the rubric of the “303 Committee.” Richard Helms, the late CIA Director, said that entity was, “A device for examining covert operations of any kind and making a judgment on behalf of the President, so he wouldn’t be nailed with the thing, if it failed.”

Out of the “303 Committee,” came a project labeled, “Frontlet 615,” which was furthered defined as, “A secret political agreement in 1966 by which Israel and the U.S. had vowed to destroy (Egypt’s Gamal Abdel) Nasser.” The military name for the operation was, “Operation Cyanide.” The U.S. also had a draconian plan, entitled, “Condition November,” a strategy for a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the Soviet Union. All of the above ended up being interwoven into the tragic saga of the Liberty.

LBJ was an extremely ambitious man, who was, in 1967, seeking reelection. The Vietnam War was going badly for him and his popularity was plummeting. He had surrounded himself with Zionist zealots, like the late Walter Rostow, his Special Assistant for National Security Affairs.

Here is how Hounam described Rostow, “A sinister, Svengali-like figure, or simply the biggest and best fixer? Of all the people in Johnson’s entourage, he was crucial in determining which way the U.S. might respond to the threatened hostilities in the Middle East... Rostow was a hawk who believed in the justness of the Vietnam War and, as a Jew, his Zionism was strongly felt and expressed...(He) had daily contact with the President. This gave him especially close access.” He had acquired enormous influence running the committee (303 Committee) that sanctioned covert operations by the CIA. He also knew in taking Israel’s side on most issues he was playing to the President’s tune. He described Johnson as the ‘most pro-Semitic man’ he had ever met.” Rostow was also an “advisor” to LBJ when he used the phony “Gulf of Tonkin Resolution,” in 1964, to launch the U.S. into the disastrous Vietnam War.

Just imagine for one moment, if an individual dedicated to putting America’s interests first - before the interests of the Zionists - had been the U.S. President on June 8, 1967. Instead of recalling our aircrafts that were on their way to rescue the Liberty, he (or she) would have ordered them to continue on their mission, not only to defend the Liberty and to stop the massacre, but to retaliated against the Zionist aggressors by bombing their naval base at the port of Ashdod, their military headquarters at Tel Aviv and Haifa, and for good measure, dropping a few MX missiles on Dimona, their secret nuke-making plant, located in the Negev desert. If, only?

What kind of man was LBJ? Well, here is what the distinguished British statesman, Denis Healey, one of his contemporaries, had to say about him: “LYNDON JOHNSON WAS A MONSTER. He was one of the few politicians with whom I found it uncomfortable to be in the same room. He exuded a brutal lust for power which I found most disagreeable...” (p. 131).

As a result of the Six-Day War, the Israelis illegally seized vast areas of land belonging to Syria, Jordan, Egypt and the Palestinian people. It also began being armed by the U.S. and treated as a strategic ally. Since 1967, Donald Neff pointed out (WRMEA, 08/02), Israel has also received enormous amounts of U.S. aid. Incredibly, it is “many times over the cost of the Marshall Plan to regenerate Western Europe after WWII.”

Query: Why are we giving billions of dollars of foreign aid to a country, Israel, that deliberately attacked and tried to sink our vessel, the Liberty, and that continues to make us more enemies in the Islamic World?

Finally, the last word on the horrors of the Israeli attack on the Liberty, and the cruel indifference of LBJ to its fate, has to be left to one of the injured survivors of that terror-filled day, Lt. George Golden, the Liberty’s chief engineer. He told author Hounam, (at p. 240-41), in a recent interview, “We were the guinea pigs to get shot up, to make it look like the Egypt was doing this so the U.S. could step in...to give our country an excuse to get in there to help Israel...” When asked how he felt when he was told all of this about being damned guinea pigs, Golden responded, “I thought I was going to cry because I couldn’t believe something like that would happen. I didn’t think our government was that way...”

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William Hughes is the author of “Saying ‘No’ to the War Party” (Iuniverse, Inc.), which is avaiable at Amazon.com.
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It was also on a BBC Documentary Called Dead In The Water, was an expose of how this act of war has been covered up for so long, unfortunately I can't find the transcripts for that one. Will keep looking though.
 

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It was also on a BBC Documentary Called Dead In The Water, was an expose of how this act of war has been covered up for so long, unfortunately I can't find the transcripts for that one. Will keep looking though.

very interesting information.  i accept it as the truth.  it reminds me of the theory that the british arranged for the sinking of thet lusitania in order to draw the u.s. population behind joining that war.
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Let Iran use nuke...It should be fun. 8)  Why not?  i don't care who starts it..as long as it happens.  I wanna see everyone's reaction.

youre a sick fuck
I was kidding man.  Still I would dare iran to do it...so we can retaliate back.
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Here's the quesiton...if they say they gonna use the nuke...what's with all the talk then?  If iran does..i wonder what bush would do. 
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I was kidding man.  Still I would dare iran to do it...so we can retaliate back.

why do you hate the persians?  why don't you go around daring the french or the russians to nuke someone?  why the hostility towards the persians?  seriously, the people in the middle east, all those arab states, persia, they want nothing more than for the u.s. to leave them the fuck alone.  at best treat them with respect like western europe. 

getting nukes is like being able to sit with the adults and graduate from the kiddie table at thanksgiving.  that's all iran wants.
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I was kidding man.  Still I would dare iran to do it...so we can retaliate back.

why do you hate the persians?  why don't you go around daring the french or the russians to nuke someone?  why the hostility towards the persians?  seriously, the people in the middle east, all those arab states, persia, they want nothing more than for the u.s. to leave them the fuck alone.  at best treat them with respect like western europe. 

getting nukes is like being able to sit with the adults and graduate from the kiddie table at thanksgiving.  that's all iran wants.

WEll..the point that i'm making on that statement was that...all politicians are just nothing but gimmick waiting out for some demands; yeah the demands that nobody is willing to give.  I don't hate anybody.  None of them...  ya right..we should treat them with respect.  But that iran president got no respect for Iresilite (sorry, didn't spell right).  That president of iran ain't making no sense at all.  This nuke thing is not about demanding anything like n. korea or anything.  THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand.   That's it...they ain't got nothing lose but to spread idealogy of wiping them off the map.  Now, what kinda bullshit is that?
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THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand. 

he wasn't saying that all israeli's should be killed, he was saying that israel as a state shouldn't exist.  mad that the land was stolen.  he later clarified his statements, saying that european jews should have been given land in europe and not in the middle east.  he certainly never threatened to nuke israel.  he might be thinking it, but he hasn't made that threat.
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THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand. 

he wasn't saying that all israeli's should be killed, he was saying that israel as a state shouldn't exist.  mad that the land was stolen.  he later clarified his statements, saying that european jews should have been given land in europe and not in the middle east.  he certainly never threatened to nuke israel.  he might be thinking it, but he hasn't made that threat.
welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
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THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand. 

he wasn't saying that all israeli's should be killed, he was saying that israel as a state shouldn't exist.  mad that the land was stolen.  he later clarified his statements, saying that european jews should have been given land in europe and not in the middle east.  he certainly never threatened to nuke israel.  he might be thinking it, but he hasn't made that threat.
I don't wanna asumme here..but it's more likely that he wants to.
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I don't wanna asumme here..but it's more likely that he wants to.

ofcourse he wants to...that doesn't mean he will.  that would be suicide.  do you think he doesn't know that that is suicide?
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha

lol!  why should the palestinians share the land?  it was their land.  they were sharing it with jews in the area.  then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe.  it's really absurd how that worked out.

that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit.  why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?

the real issue is what is iran's angle here?  they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...

why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha

lol!  why should the palestinians share the land?  it was their land.  they were sharing it with jews in the area.  then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe.  it's really absurd how that worked out.

that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit.  why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?

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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha

lol!  why should the palestinians share the land?  it was their land.  they were sharing it with jews in the area.  then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe.  it's really absurd how that worked out.

that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit.  why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?

the real issue is what is iran's angle here?  they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...

why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?


man...the situation is like this...iran has a roommate with isreal...iran is pointing a gun at that guy and says, "get the fuck out of my room."
and this isreal guy be like, "but this is my room...i paid for this room."   Iran guy says," i know...that's why you gotta get the fuck out of here and don't forget to pay the monthly as well."

If they share...it would be like somewhat..."Even."  If they get crowed....put them elsewhere..like america...but the point is ...you can't just tell them to "get the fuck out of my room" they somewhat own that part of that land.
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha

lol!  why should the palestinians share the land?  it was their land.  they were sharing it with jews in the area.  then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe.  it's really absurd how that worked out.

that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit.  why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?

the real issue is what is iran's angle here?  they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...

why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
well it wasn't europe who gave them, the land us brits were turning jews away whilst we had it under mandate, american pressure lead us to just up and leave putting it in the hands of the american controlled UN

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha

lol!  why should the palestinians share the land?  it was their land.  they were sharing it with jews in the area.  then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe.  it's really absurd how that worked out.

that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit.  why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?

the real issue is what is iran's angle here?  they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...

why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?


man...the situation is like this...iran has a roommate with isreal...iran is pointing a gun at that guy and says, "get the fuck out of my room."
and this isreal guy be like, "but this is my room...i paid for this room."   Iran guy says," i know...that's why you gotta get the fuck out of here and don't forget to pay the monthly as well."

If they share...it would be like somewhat..."Even."  If they get crowed....put them elsewhere..like america...but the point is ...you can't just tell them to "get the fuck out of my room" they somewhat own that part of that land.


^ man shut up, this is one of the worst analogies ive ever read in my life
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha

lol!  why should the palestinians share the land?  it was their land.  they were sharing it with jews in the area.  then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe.  it's really absurd how that worked out.

that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit.  why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?

the real issue is what is iran's angle here?  they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...

why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?


man...the situation is like this...iran has a roommate with isreal...iran is pointing a gun at that guy and says, "get the fuck out of my room."
and this isreal guy be like, "but this is my room...i paid for this room."   Iran guy says," i know...that's why you gotta get the fuck out of here and don't forget to pay the monthly as well."

If they share...it would be like somewhat..."Even."  If they get crowed....put them elsewhere..like america...but the point is ...you can't just tell them to "get the fuck out of my room" they somewhat own that part of that land.


^ man shut up, this is one of the worst analogies ive ever read in my life

u shut up, i was tryna make a point.  Because ya don't even have a brain to understand i'm tryna say..you shut up or get shut down.
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Lol you are such a fool Israel didnt pay for shit, it stole the land from the palestinians (the occupied territories) has made over 2 million palestinian refugees, and refuses to allow them the basic human right to return their land. Furthermore Israel is banrolled by USA and has enough nukes to single handedly destroy all of the middle east and then some. Your analogies are not only simple they are also completely false.
 

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Lol you are such a fool Israel didnt pay for shit, it stole the land from the palestinians (the occupied territories) has made over 2 million palestinian refugees, and refuses to allow them the basic human right to return their land. Furthermore Israel is banrolled by USA and has enough nukes to single handedly destroy all of the middle east and then some. Your analogies are not only simple they are also completely false.
money thing wasn't what I was talking about.
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