whats up with the french ?

[regimemob510]

i like the french, they're very socially aware and give it up for west coast hip hop...

[coola]

^ thats nice..

[Jome]

n'impote quoi. 

fuck man, you are looking for things to complain about.

older people are more mature, thats a fact, they also work harder, they are experienced in life, unlike young people that like to party hard and be lazy... you should be happy about the bill, but hey, if you are a shitty worker, then yeah ofcourse it would piss you off.

some of you french people mis-interpret the whole "liberty" notion... you got way too much up your ass.

to me it looks like you are just looking for shit to complain about, without fully understanding what is happening and the works of an economy. that is why OLDER people made these decisions, because in general young people have limited and naive understanding.

Latterlig.... 

Older people are more mature - Not always the case, and it doesn't make them better workers even if they are.
Older people work harder - WHOA WHOA, slow your roll youngin', most older people I seen at work knows how to take it easy, and make the most out of any break.
5 minute smokebreak here, another 10 minutes there, etc. whereas young newly appointed people struggle to make their mark to keep the job.

You'll see when you start working that in many companies, the older people are almost preserved from getting fired, they've been there so long that they get a pass for whatever fuck-up they might accomplish, try joining the military and see how many starpigs there is with an alcohol problem, son!

Btw, I'm not French, but it seems like some of you Americans will accept whatever Patriot Act or any other stupid bill/law the government wants to shove down your throat.
It's not like the government/state/major companies doesn't have enough power, Power to the people! 

[coola]

^ i'm not american... and i know french people that are disgusted with the protests... they feel ashamed to be french...

and GENERALLY speaking, older people are more mature, they are more experienced, thats it.

you goto be missing a chromozone to think the bill is hurting the country.

[Jome]

^ i'm not american... and i know french people that are disgusted with the protests... they feel ashamed to be french...

and GENERALLY speaking, older people are more mature, they are more experienced, thats it.

you goto be missing a chromozone to think the bill is hurting the country.

You sound coerced man, straight intimidated, if you don't want the same rights as 95% of the rest of the workers got.
Notice that I'm not defending the protests, cuz I understand that many of the protesters are organized thugs and rebels who wants to riot and create chaos, but I still say fuck that bill, if you want to give up your rights and accept being subdued because of your age, then go ahead, be my guest.

[coola]

^ i'm a hard worker, if it means i will find work easier because more employers are willing to take the risk to hire me.. then YES i want bill ! 2 years isnt a long time ! plus if you survive in the work-force during that time, dont you think it would look good on a resume ?

look at the bigger picture.

[coola]

^ i'm not american... and i know french people that are disgusted with the protests... they feel ashamed to be french...

and GENERALLY speaking, older people are more mature, they are more experienced, thats it.

you goto be missing a chromozone to think the bill is hurting the country.

You sound coerced man, straight intimidated, if you don't want the same rights as 95% of the rest of the workers got.
Notice that I'm not defending the protests, cuz I understand that many of the protesters are organized thugs and rebels who wants to riot and create chaos, but I still say fuck that bill, if you want to give up your rights and accept being subdued because of your age, then go ahead, be my guest.

and theyre not organised thugs... they are 15 year old kids smashing up cars.

[Jome]

^ i'm a hard worker, if it means i will find work easier because more employers are willing to take the risk to hire me.. then YES i want bill ! 2 years isnt a long time ! plus if you survive in the work-force during that time, dont you think it would look good on a resume ?

look at the bigger picture.

If you're a hard worker you will keep the job even without a trial contract or "rookie contract", if you're a bad/lazy worker, you can still get fired today, this new bill only makes the firing part easier for the company, with less risks for the company, and practically without consequences.
"Surviving" 2 years in a company looks good on the resume, yes, but that doesn't mean that you need to accept to be stripped for your rights! Stand up and be a man!

and theyre not organised thugs... they are 15 year old kids smashing up cars.

There's been reports of organized "professional protesters" travelling around and organizing riots through phone, and other funny business, it's far from just 15 year old kids, dunno what news story you been watching. But still: Not defending the protests, I'm defending workers rights, you sound to be more concerned about the companies. 

[Don Rizzle]

france is always on strike or rioting over something their government is weak and will nearly always cave in eventually.

[big mat]

This just proves how worthless the French are. That is what happens when you live in a left wing, socialist country. All the restrictions they have on employement are killing their economy. Look at their economic growth rates and unemployment rates compared to the US....the American economy blows their economy out of the water.

The French government has finally woken up and tried to make their economy more modern like the US but unfortunately these French youths don't like it. But in the long run, their government has to make changes in order to become more competitive with the erest of the world. The reason the unemployment rate is so high in France is because no companies want to hire people that the government tells them they won't be able to fire.

in ten years the commercial deficit of the united states reached 3 000 000 000 000 000 000 $US ( that means you buy for 60 billions$ more than you sell each month) , China, saudi arabia and israel owns a lot of this beautiful country. I'm glad i'm not american cuz yall is in some deep shit. But you don't seem to realise it. The biggest debt in the world, the biggest defficit, etc.

in the 90's for each dollar the PIB gained, the national debt gained 3,60$. In 2001 it reached 4,91$.

US debt : 33 000 billion. It gained 2200 billion in interest during 2004

china own for $400 billion of the treasury bonds.

[coola]

^ i'm a hard worker, if it means i will find work easier because more employers are willing to take the risk to hire me.. then YES i want bill ! 2 years isnt a long time ! plus if you survive in the work-force during that time, dont you think it would look good on a resume ?

look at the bigger picture.

If you're a hard worker you will keep the job even without a trial contract or "rookie contract", if you're a bad/lazy worker, you can still get fired today, this new bill only makes the firing part easier for the company, with less risks for the company, and practically without consequences.
"Surviving" 2 years in a company looks good on the resume, yes, but that doesn't mean that you need to accept to be stripped for your rights! Stand up and be a man!

and theyre not organised thugs... they are 15 year old kids smashing up cars.

There's been reports of organized "professional protesters" travelling around and organizing riots through phone, and other funny business, it's far from just 15 year old kids, dunno what news story you been watching. But still: Not defending the protests, I'm defending workers rights, you sound to be more concerned about the companies. 

i dont watch any news stories... i have my own reporter there.

[Fathom]

From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

Did you read it properly, or just skim through it ?
They want to strip young people for the same rights "normal" workers got, make it possible to give young people 2 year trial contracts, and if they're not 100% satisfied with them, they can basically fire them for almost any given reason.

Did you know that 20% of all workers between 18 and 25 years in France are unemployed ? (Twice the percentage as the rest of the population)
The new law will raise the percentage of unemployed youths.

Not necessarily.  One reason the unemployment rate is so high is because of the extremely worker friendly laws and excessively high tax rates on buissnesses.  Buissnesses can't afford to take on new employees.  The 2 year trial period is a great idea.  If you higher a flake or meth addict you can fire them without having to go through the expensive process of legally proving how fucked up they are.  If you are a good employee you have nothing to worry about.  I'm not saying get rid of worker rights all together, I'm merely saying it's a teetor totter that needs to be re-balanced.

[coola]

^ NOOO WE WANT FREEDOM AND EQUAL RIGHTS !!!! VIVA LA VIBERTY !!!

[King Tech Quadafi]

Two things socialists hate about capitalism:

1. You have to work.
2. You only get paid what you're worth.

 

[Don Rizzle]

france is always on strike or rioting over something their government is weak and will nearly always cave in eventually.

here it is

France to scrap youth job law
French President Jacques Chirac has announced that the new youth employment law that sparked weeks of sometimes violent protests will be scrapped.
He said it would be replaced by other measures to tackle youth unemployment.

Millions of students and union members have taken to the streets over the last month in protest against the law, which made it easier to fire young workers.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin said the law's aim had been to tackle high unemployment among the young.

The law, known as the First Employment Contract or CPE, introduced a new work contract for under-26s.


 FIRST JOB CONTRACT
Contrat Premiere Embauche (CPE): A new work contract for under-26s allowing a two-year trial period
In that period, employers can end a contract without explanation
After two years, the CPE reverts to a standard full-time contract
Became law on 2 April
 

It was to allow a two-year trial period, during which employers could end a contract without explanation.

The plan to replace the law was announced after a meeting between the president, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and other senior ministers on Monday.

'Dramatic situation'

Speaking in a live television address, Mr de Villepin said the president had accepted his proposed changes and that the new measures would be presented to the various sectors concerned during Monday.

He said he was convinced that the only way of addressing joblessness in France was a better balance between flexibility for employers and security for employees.

"For some time the action of the government had been guided by one objective, to provide thousands of young people from our society with opportunities for jobs," he said.

"I wanted to act very quickly because the dramatic situation and the despair of a number of young people warranted it.

"This was not understood by everyone, I'm sorry to say," said Mr de Villepin.

His goal now, he said, was to work for the future of the country, adding that he hoped all French people would work together.

Union leaders had given the government until Easter weekend to withdraw the law or face a repeat of the recent general strikes.

In a first reaction, the deputy leader of the country's second biggest trade union, the CGT, welcomed the announcement.

Maryse Dumas told the French news agency, AFP, that the withdrawl of the CPE was due to the "success of the joint action of workers and students, as well as union unity".


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/europe/4895164.stm