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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2006, 01:02:53 AM »
Havin relashunz wit da white womuhnz is enough apology fo me.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2006, 09:57:04 AM »
Havin relashunz wit da white womuhnz is enough apology fo me.

thats what im sayin, fuck 40 acres and a mule, hook em up wit an old e and a white bitch

 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2006, 10:05:13 AM »
yeah, while your at it

why dont u get all those people who invaded UK raped our women and stuff to apologise

get fucking real, apologising for stuff like that, that happened too long ago is a joke, and your stupid for even suggesting it
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2006, 03:10:31 PM »

Another reason why this question is absolutely ridiculous and strikes of little thought is because some african nations are still dealing in the slave trade right now, dyncorp have also been implicated in the white slave trade in Bosnia. Slavery is still rampant so is this just a case of pointing it out when the "white devil" does it and expecting an apology for the mass slave trade that did occur and yet when it comes to black people doing it, its see no evil hear no evil. I am sick of this hypocrisy its so tired and wearing and just goes to prove how much white people have been conditioned now into feeling guilty about the actions of white people in the past. It's amusing also that whilst people are so quick to be passionate about the slave trade and yet are completely apathetic to sweeping police powers which happened across europe and america which censor intimidate and make a mockery of peoples basic civil liberties.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2006, 03:25:27 PM »
this has been killing me for years.



hey Jim if ur out there man im sorry for kicking u in the shin back in the 4th grade. them bastards double dared man. sorry man. :(
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2006, 05:52:59 PM »
I'm nobody to say that blacks do or don't deserve an apology... because some of them may feel like they do... however I'd like to point out that Germany had to make payments to Israel for the Holocaust

the difference between the Holocaust nd this is that Germany was FORCED to admit their wrong doing in both wars & Holocaust, i doubt the U.S. today will be forced to admit wrong doing for slavery.
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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2006, 06:37:25 PM »
just goes to prove how much white people have been conditioned now into feeling guilty about the actions of white people in the past.

No, the majority of white people are like you and act like America is absolutely perfect the way it is now, and that it's 100% the fault of those lazy niggers for anything and everything that's wrong with black communities right now.  If white folks were really "conditioned" to feel guilty about shit, we wouldn't even be having this debate.

Personally, I don't expect or desire reparations, and I could care less if America wants to apologize "officially" or not, cause I don't think it's even in my place to accept the apology nor would I give a fuck anyway.  I'd just prefer that (1.) Whitey stops denying that "the past" IS having an effect on what's going on today, and (2.) Trying to undermine certain social measures that might be necesary in the post-Civil Rights era, because they're paranoid of America becoming "socialist" or whatever.  Besides, it ain't even slavery that bothers most of us anymore...it's segregation, and unlike slavery, MANY white people are still alive today who were around and active in that system, as are many black folks who were oppressed by it.  So stop shouting "double-standard" and pointing to irrelevent examples when you're in no situation to talk that way...it's obvious you're trying hard as possible NOT to feel guilty.

It's amusing also that whilst people are so quick to be passionate about the slave trade and yet are completely apathetic to sweeping police powers which happened across europe and america which censor intimidate and make a mockery of peoples basic civil liberties.

But of course.  The "1984" shit from you just had to find its way into this topic at some point, never mind that it's completely irrelevent.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2006, 06:40:22 PM by RBXtra (Rough Is The Texture) »
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2006, 06:43:42 PM »

Are you even aware of what you are talking abour "1984 shit" how ignorant are you, its not something that is found in a book, its here right now. It's highly relevant because I was highlighting how people will fight continue endlessly about slavery and yet you cry apathy and "conspiracy" when its related to the actions of the government and what is taking place.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2006, 06:49:11 PM »

Are you even aware of what you are talking abour "1984 shit" how ignorant are you, its not something that is found in a book, its here right now. It's highly relevant because I was highlighting how people will fight continue endlessly about slavery and yet you cry apathy and "conspiracy" when its related to the actions of the government and what is taking place.

I cry apathy when it's unrelated to the discussion, nothing more.

And don't worry...I hear about the govt.'s violations of civil liberties all the time.  I'm black, remember?  I'm supposed to have anti-establishment and anti-Uncle Sam sentiments in my genes. ::)
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2006, 06:56:47 PM »

Oh I dont feel guilty in the slightest, you have no idea what it was like to experience slavery the same way that I have no idea what it must have been like to have been a complete serf in England until the Magna Carta was introduced. I said that there is conditioning because it doesnt matter where you go black people still feel that they are "owed" you hear it in hip hop music, you hear and see it in education, constantly talking about slavery. I mean ffs there is even a BBC programme called Black Britain in which slavery is still an important issue. Also what the hell is this about a lot of white people who were in that system are alive today? and the double standard is there because it exists, since slave trading still goes on today and it is only whites having black slaves which is mentioned, then there is your double standard, just because you choose to ignore doesnt make it any less real.

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2006, 07:02:08 PM »

Also as I have just mentioned I dont come from middle america I come from a poor family in England. I don't think america is perfect far from it of course. I believe that some of what is happening to black people in their communtiies is brought on by themselves yes which in turn is bringing the rest of the black people in their community down with them. Although as you can appreciate I can only talk on that from my perspective here in England not America.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2006, 07:04:18 PM »

Oh I dont feel guilty in the slightest, you have no idea what it was like to experience slavery the same way that I have no idea what it must have been like to have been a complete serf in England until the Magna Carta was introduced. I said that there is conditioning because it doesnt matter where you go black people still feel that they are "owed" you hear it in hip hop music, you hear and see it in education, constantly talking about slavery. I mean ffs there is even a BBC programme called Black Britain in which slavery is still an important issue. Also what the hell is this about a lot of white people who were in that system are alive today? and the double standard is there because it exists, since slave trading still goes on today and it is only whites having black slaves which is mentioned, then there is your double standard, just because you choose to ignore doesnt make it any less real.


As I've said, it ain't slavery, it's segregation that I was referring to.  That was in the 20th century, young blood, not the distant past.  THAT is why a lotta black folks feel like Uncle Sam owes them, and why we resent the white folks.  Slavery, yeah, you're right, that's the distant past, though it ain't to be forgotten.  Segregation is another matter entirely, and judging by what you've said, you're acting like you don't even know what I'm talking about.

And I don't give a fuck about your "double-standards"; they simply aren't relevent to THIS particular matter.  Bringing them up is just a way for you to appeal to emotion because you'd prefer to deny that white folks have any responsibility whatsoever for what's going on with blacks today.  I don't care if you feel guilty or not, but you best not engage in this fucked-up historical revisionism.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2006, 08:44:02 PM »
just goes to prove how much white people have been conditioned now into feeling guilty about the actions of white people in the past.

No, the majority of white people are like you and act like America is absolutely perfect the way it is now, and that it's 100% the fault of those lazy niggers for anything and everything that's wrong with black communities right now.  If white folks were really "conditioned" to feel guilty about shit, we wouldn't even be having this debate.

Personally, I don't expect or desire reparations, and I could care less if America wants to apologize "officially" or not, cause I don't think it's even in my place to accept the apology nor would I give a fuck anyway.  I'd just prefer that (1.) Whitey stops denying that "the past" IS having an effect on what's going on today, and (2.) Trying to undermine certain social measures that might be necesary in the post-Civil Rights era, because they're paranoid of America becoming "socialist" or whatever.  Besides, it ain't even slavery that bothers most of us anymore...it's segregation, and unlike slavery, MANY white people are still alive today who were around and active in that system, as are many black folks who were oppressed by it.  So stop shouting "double-standard" and pointing to irrelevent examples when you're in no situation to talk that way...it's obvious you're trying hard as possible NOT to feel guilty.

It's amusing also that whilst people are so quick to be passionate about the slave trade and yet are completely apathetic to sweeping police powers which happened across europe and america which censor intimidate and make a mockery of peoples basic civil liberties.

But of course.  The "1984" shit from you just had to find its way into this topic at some point, never mind that it's completely irrelevent.
What social measures?  Are you refering to wellfare?
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2006, 11:18:18 PM »
the child sex market, famine, and getting basic human rights to the 3rd world

this is the biggest travesties in the world to u  ???
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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2006, 11:42:09 PM »
On a serious note now, asking for an apology now would be stupid. Nobody responsible is alive so the apology wouldn't mean shit anyways. If you ask me, it's time to move on.

Be happy the US acknowledges slavery at least. Tragedies like the Armenian genocide are still considered non-existent by the US government.