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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2006, 08:02:08 PM »

Also as I have just mentioned I dont come from middle america I come from a poor family in England. I don't think america is perfect far from it of course. I believe that some of what is happening to black people in their communtiies is brought on by themselves yes which in turn is bringing the rest of the black people in their community down with them. Although as you can appreciate I can only talk on that from my perspective here in England not America.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2006, 08:04:18 PM »

Oh I dont feel guilty in the slightest, you have no idea what it was like to experience slavery the same way that I have no idea what it must have been like to have been a complete serf in England until the Magna Carta was introduced. I said that there is conditioning because it doesnt matter where you go black people still feel that they are "owed" you hear it in hip hop music, you hear and see it in education, constantly talking about slavery. I mean ffs there is even a BBC programme called Black Britain in which slavery is still an important issue. Also what the hell is this about a lot of white people who were in that system are alive today? and the double standard is there because it exists, since slave trading still goes on today and it is only whites having black slaves which is mentioned, then there is your double standard, just because you choose to ignore doesnt make it any less real.


As I've said, it ain't slavery, it's segregation that I was referring to.  That was in the 20th century, young blood, not the distant past.  THAT is why a lotta black folks feel like Uncle Sam owes them, and why we resent the white folks.  Slavery, yeah, you're right, that's the distant past, though it ain't to be forgotten.  Segregation is another matter entirely, and judging by what you've said, you're acting like you don't even know what I'm talking about.

And I don't give a fuck about your "double-standards"; they simply aren't relevent to THIS particular matter.  Bringing them up is just a way for you to appeal to emotion because you'd prefer to deny that white folks have any responsibility whatsoever for what's going on with blacks today.  I don't care if you feel guilty or not, but you best not engage in this fucked-up historical revisionism.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2006, 09:44:02 PM »
just goes to prove how much white people have been conditioned now into feeling guilty about the actions of white people in the past.

No, the majority of white people are like you and act like America is absolutely perfect the way it is now, and that it's 100% the fault of those lazy niggers for anything and everything that's wrong with black communities right now.  If white folks were really "conditioned" to feel guilty about shit, we wouldn't even be having this debate.

Personally, I don't expect or desire reparations, and I could care less if America wants to apologize "officially" or not, cause I don't think it's even in my place to accept the apology nor would I give a fuck anyway.  I'd just prefer that (1.) Whitey stops denying that "the past" IS having an effect on what's going on today, and (2.) Trying to undermine certain social measures that might be necesary in the post-Civil Rights era, because they're paranoid of America becoming "socialist" or whatever.  Besides, it ain't even slavery that bothers most of us anymore...it's segregation, and unlike slavery, MANY white people are still alive today who were around and active in that system, as are many black folks who were oppressed by it.  So stop shouting "double-standard" and pointing to irrelevent examples when you're in no situation to talk that way...it's obvious you're trying hard as possible NOT to feel guilty.

It's amusing also that whilst people are so quick to be passionate about the slave trade and yet are completely apathetic to sweeping police powers which happened across europe and america which censor intimidate and make a mockery of peoples basic civil liberties.

But of course.  The "1984" shit from you just had to find its way into this topic at some point, never mind that it's completely irrelevent.
What social measures?  Are you refering to wellfare?
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2006, 12:18:18 AM »
the child sex market, famine, and getting basic human rights to the 3rd world

this is the biggest travesties in the world to u  ???
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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2006, 12:42:09 AM »
On a serious note now, asking for an apology now would be stupid. Nobody responsible is alive so the apology wouldn't mean shit anyways. If you ask me, it's time to move on.

Be happy the US acknowledges slavery at least. Tragedies like the Armenian genocide are still considered non-existent by the US government.
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2006, 09:57:19 AM »

I am stating facts thats all, what do you mean by segregation? assuming of course you are not referring to poverty because like I have repeated many times before there are a large number of poor whites also. If you are referring to racial discrimination then yes that is still there but then again so is racial discrimination against white people here also. One such example of this is so called positive discrimination, which basically means acceptable racism as long as it affects whites. Also I am not revising history, how the hell can I be reivising history when its already there?
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2006, 11:05:56 AM »
wjen are the blacks in the US going to get an apology for slavery?
i c a lot of shit on this board but this is one issue you guys should discuss in a 'first world country'

just fucking pathetic.

just admit it that none of u white americans give a shit about them niggers.


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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2006, 08:29:55 PM »


2. every person of african decent should apologize for the ensalvement of  the jews
i never knew africans enslaved jews??
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2006, 08:36:02 PM »


2. every person of african decent should apologize for the ensalvement of  the jews
i never knew africans enslaved jews??
The Egyptians
 

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Re: how long before the blacks get their apology
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2006, 09:02:32 PM »


2. every person of african decent should apologize for the ensalvement of  the jews
i never knew africans enslaved jews??
The Egyptians
O yea i guess but I dont think alot of Egyptians consider themselves African