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Re: death row.
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2006, 02:13:47 PM »

There are 2 diffrent situations being talked about. The one chief brought up (guy on death row) and the one Sikotic brought up (guy went in shock). Chief is just a little slow.

haha yeah i am pretty slow, slow like a fox ! 
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Re: death row.
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2006, 02:17:52 PM »
Yeah, its possible. Just the thought of having slit wrists probably put the guy in shock and he died.

A friend of my family was at a park like 15 years ago. There were loud noises that sounded like gun shots and he felt something hot hit his back. He died. Turns out a bunch od kids were pranking people with firecrackers and tossing them around. He was an older guy, so he had no idea what was going on and thought it was a shooting. He went into shock and died.
Going into shock is a physical condition.

But nothing physically damaging happened to him. It was brought on by his emotions.

It's well known your emotions and bodily functions work together hand-in-hand.
I'm not argueing that emotions and bodily functions work together hand-in-hand. Shock is a medical condition where the tissue perfusion is insufficient to meet the required supply of oxygen and nutrients. Although it can be triggered by the mind the actual shock is purly physical. And what do you mean "nothing physically damaging happened to him"? Shock isn't always physically damaging in the long run. And didn't you say he died? That sounds phsicaly damaging to me.

I meant that nothing physically damaging led to the shock being triggered. And I'm not denying that shock is physical, that's well known. My whole point of telling that example, and the point of the thread, is that something mental/emotional can cause a physical reaction or even death.
I mostly agree. However, going back to the original exapmle by Chief, I don't think the mind can be tricked into dying. Your mind has to trigger something in your body (like your shock example) so that he body will die, therefore leaving you (and your mind) dead.
 

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Re: death row.
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2006, 02:21:34 PM »
Yeah, its possible. Just the thought of having slit wrists probably put the guy in shock and he died.

A friend of my family was at a park like 15 years ago. There were loud noises that sounded like gun shots and he felt something hot hit his back. He died. Turns out a bunch od kids were pranking people with firecrackers and tossing them around. He was an older guy, so he had no idea what was going on and thought it was a shooting. He went into shock and died.
Going into shock is a physical condition.

But nothing physically damaging happened to him. It was brought on by his emotions.

It's well known your emotions and bodily functions work together hand-in-hand.
I'm not argueing that emotions and bodily functions work together hand-in-hand. Shock is a medical condition where the tissue perfusion is insufficient to meet the required supply of oxygen and nutrients. Although it can be triggered by the mind the actual shock is purly physical. And what do you mean "nothing physically damaging happened to him"? Shock isn't always physically damaging in the long run. And didn't you say he died? That sounds phsicaly damaging to me.

I meant that nothing physically damaging led to the shock being triggered. And I'm not denying that shock is physical, that's well known. My whole point of telling that example, and the point of the thread, is that something mental/emotional can cause a physical reaction or even death.
I mostly agree. However, going back to the original exapmle by Chief, I don't think the mind can be tricked into dying. Your mind has to trigger something in your body (like your shock example) so that he body will die, therefore leaving you (and your mind) dead.

Well that's what I think the death row inmate went through. He probably went into shock because he's not gonna just drop dead. It would be interesting if their was more information about the guy. To see whether or not it was shock or if he actually suffered the effects of a person with slits wrists (i.e. low blood pressure).
 

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Re: death row.
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2006, 03:19:14 PM »
since the mind and body are interrelated with one another a plausible explanation for his death would be that the mind caused the body to go into shock and due to that he dies.