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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2006, 01:08:21 AM »
^^your a dispicable man, you have no moral values, islam worped your mind. you can't just acknowdge muslims have done some fucked up shit there no armanian genocide, there no genocide in dalfour etc. but then all u go on about is how fucked up the west is. why don't u just show some fucking judgement and acknowledge muslims can be nasty people too.


You and I are different, I don't believe everything I see and everything I read.  I have to read more to understand the Armenian genocide.  It's not enough to just say the Turks killed some Armenians.  We have to investigate what the Armenians did to provoke such treatment (if infact it did occur at the magnitude of a genocide), we have to look at this event from all angles.  All groups don't have fair access to the media, so we can't automatically accept whatever we are given in the media.  Let's hear all sides. 

...and what are you talking about Darfour genocide?  You ever heard of the Civil War in America?  What happened in that Civil War is that certain states started steppin up and wanted to secede from the Union.  So what happened?  Lincoln killed all of them, it was the bloodiest war in American history, he killed all of them to "perserve the Union".  Infact, they weren't even fighting, they just wanted Independance.

So now you have a situation in Darfour, where Western powers are arming minority groups in Sudan and encouraging them to rebel against the government, they are actively fighting, which gives the Sudanese government even more justification than Lincoln had during his civil war.  So the Sudanese government, like any government has tried to supress that.  And there is no Arab vs. Black issue, cause if you look at the Sudanese people they would all be considered black by American standards. 
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2006, 02:29:42 AM »
does America even recognize that the turkish goverment to this day are still murdering people from Kurdistan for no reason? or that it´s been illegal for kurds to speak their own language until recently(it may still be illegal). if America got so much against terror states they should´ve gone to war with Turkey many years ago.....
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2006, 03:30:15 AM »
last year in history class I mentioned this and the turkish homie caught mad feelings and claimed it never happened and shit, the 30 remaining minutes of the lesson were dedicated to an emotional discussion, lol
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2006, 04:54:43 AM »
My country's legislature had a moment of silence, I'm glad it has been recognized.

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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2006, 06:42:34 AM »
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2006, 06:52:56 AM »
^^your a dispicable man, you have no moral values, islam worped your mind. you can't just acknowdge muslims have done some fucked up shit there no armanian genocide, there no genocide in dalfour etc. but then all u go on about is how fucked up the west is. why don't u just show some fucking judgement and acknowledge muslims can be nasty people too.


You and I are different, I don't believe everything I see and everything I read.  I have to read more to understand the Armenian genocide.  It's not enough to just say the Turks killed some Armenians.  We have to investigate what the Armenians did to provoke such treatment (if infact it did occur at the magnitude of a genocide), we have to look at this event from all angles.  All groups don't have fair access to the media, so we can't automatically accept whatever we are given in the media.  Let's hear all sides. 

Are you serious? 1.5 million isn't just "some" Armenians, man. What could a people possibly do to deserve to go through an attempted extermination? Just listen to your form of reasoning, it's horrible.
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2006, 07:04:35 AM »
^^your a dispicable man, you have no moral values, islam worped your mind. you can't just acknowdge muslims have done some fucked up shit there no armanian genocide, there no genocide in dalfour etc. but then all u go on about is how fucked up the west is. why don't u just show some fucking judgement and acknowledge muslims can be nasty people too.


You and I are different, I don't believe everything I see and everything I read.  I have to read more to understand the Armenian genocide.  It's not enough to just say the Turks killed some Armenians.  We have to investigate what the Armenians did to provoke such treatment (if infact it did occur at the magnitude of a genocide), we have to look at this event from all angles.  All groups don't have fair access to the media, so we can't automatically accept whatever we are given in the media.  Let's hear all sides. 

...and what are you talking about Darfour genocide?  You ever heard of the Civil War in America?  What happened in that Civil War is that certain states started steppin up and wanted to secede from the Union.  So what happened?  Lincoln killed all of them, it was the bloodiest war in American history, he killed all of them to "perserve the Union".  Infact, they weren't even fighting, they just wanted Independance.

So now you have a situation in Darfour, where Western powers are arming minority groups in Sudan and encouraging them to rebel against the government, they are actively fighting, which gives the Sudanese government even more justification than Lincoln had during his civil war.  So the Sudanese government, like any government has tried to supress that.  And there is no Arab vs. Black issue, cause if you look at the Sudanese people they would all be considered black by American standards. 


You're right, but you're also transparent. You never seem to bring up these questions when it is a Muslim country as the victim. Maybe Armenia did screw Turkey over, but it seems less likely since it's hard to screw over a country that had taken you over for 400 years. Russia had a war with Turkey in the early 1800s and Russia took over eatern Armenia. If the people in Ottoman Armenia later decided to join their former coutrymen in Russia, which was Orthodox Christian like Armenia, then it's hardly a stab in the back.


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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2006, 07:06:47 AM »
What could a people possibly do to deserve to go through an attempted extermination?


They didn't submit to the will of Allah. They deserved what they got. How dare they not massively convert. Turkey made it very clear over the 400 years that if you want to stop being slaves and second class citizens you just have to convert.
 

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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2006, 10:35:43 AM »
the Turkish are backwards ass people, never liked em, lets take it back to the old days when the greeks and persians would just stomp their way through them to reach eachother.


oh yeah btw, if you live in LA then you would probably notice all those armo flags on the cars and stuff, its all good, i pump my fist in the air and show love cause they're our armenian brothers, lol
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2006, 10:40:12 AM »
the Turkish are backwards ass people, never liked em, lets take it back to the old days when the greeks and persians would just stomp their way through them to reach eachother.


oh yeah btw, if you live in LA then you would probably notice all those armo flags on the cars and stuff, its all good, i pump my fist in the air and show love cause they're our armenian brothers, lol

oh do shut up now. the persians have been good for nothing for 2000 years
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2006, 12:21:23 PM »
the Turkish are backwards ass people, never liked em, lets take it back to the old days when the greeks and persians would just stomp their way through them to reach eachother.


oh yeah btw, if you live in LA then you would probably notice all those armo flags on the cars and stuff, its all good, i pump my fist in the air and show love cause they're our armenian brothers, lol

oh do shut up now. the persians have been good for nothing for 2000 years

no you shut up now, atleast we havent been bending over and taking it in the ass for the last 2000 years
 

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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2006, 04:13:13 PM »
come come now

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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2006, 07:16:24 PM »
the Turkish are backwards ass people, never liked em, lets take it back to the old days when the greeks and persians would just stomp their way through them to reach eachother.


oh yeah btw, if you live in LA then you would probably notice all those armo flags on the cars and stuff, its all good, i pump my fist in the air and show love cause they're our armenian brothers, lol

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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2006, 07:19:20 PM »
Each year April 24 commemorates the genocide of close to 1.5 million Armenians in Ottoman Turkey (much of it historical Armenian lands). April 24, 1915 was the day when thousands of intellectuals, prominent men, and wealthy Armenians were rounded up and executed all accross Turkey by the orders of the government. What followed was a forced evacuation of all Armenians from their homeland - a process in which more than a million perished by starvation, exhaustion, and massacres. Let us remember the Genocide and pay respect to those innocent people who were ruthlessly killed. A large portion of my ancestry was killed in the Genocide, so this directly affects me, but every person should be concerned with the Armenian genocide because it is a historical fact that is being denied to this day the Turkish government and is not recognized by the United States as a genocide

Read more @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

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nope our government wont accept it, just the way we'll never give up cyprus and let the kurds give up their own land. i am for the recognition, but obviously it'll take a while to accept that, if that will even happen.
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Re: April 24, 1915 - Remember the Genocide
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2006, 07:21:26 PM »
Why won't the US acknowledge it?

The U.S. has ties with Turkey, much stronger ties than it does with Armenia. Number one, the U.S. has military bases in Turkey. Number 2, Turkey is one of the few Middle Eastern nations that cooperates with the U.S.

Why Turkey won't recognize it? because they're afraid that some people would ask for monetary reparations or giving lands back. I don't even care about reparations, i just want recognition. The fact is, Turkey won't join the European union because every country in the E.U. has to approve, and last time they voted on it, Austria declided Turkey's entry because of the denial of the Genocide
was it really cause we deny the genocide or is it cause attempted to invade vienna twice......i have serious doubts about that. thats an excuse they use to reject us.