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Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 27, 2006, 11:38:43 PMThey have amazing skill, but they never were anywhere NEAR the charisma or significance of Eminem in his prime...Kweli is on some complete other shit, with his conscious rap, you know most people don't eat that, and Ras Kass just has a flow that, sadly, isn't really catchy amongst the mainstream...You're out of it man, just slap them chins...PeACeLike I said, change the skin color, you'd be singing a different tune (instead of Dreidel Dreidel Dreidel).
They have amazing skill, but they never were anywhere NEAR the charisma or significance of Eminem in his prime...Kweli is on some complete other shit, with his conscious rap, you know most people don't eat that, and Ras Kass just has a flow that, sadly, isn't really catchy amongst the mainstream...You're out of it man, just slap them chins...PeACe
Go do the Horah.
Quote from: 2 Muh'phuccin Xtra 4 Cali on July 25, 2006, 07:09:19 AMQuote from: Hajj Abdul-Infinite...BANNED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH! on July 25, 2006, 06:54:52 AMJay-Z just uses this retirement thing as a marketing strategy to sell more records.Actually, he's mostly using it as an opportunity to play HNIC more than ever before as Prez of Def Jam, which he does exceptionally well even more than rapping. dude has one of the albums of the year on his camp in fishscale and ain't even put out another vid 4 the album , and he's continueing the line of fucking method man over welcome 2 death jamLMAO at Jay doin it well, then why has all of his artists flopped? he´s not been involved in 1 successful project other then Rihanna´s new album. Mariah was La,Jeezy was LA,Ne-Yo was LA,Kanye did his own thing without Jay overlooking shit. so how has he done it well? the artists he´s been responsible since becoming president is Bleek,the YG`s and that other dumb fuck bitch that couldn´t sing if her life depended on it. and guess what they all have in common? extremely low sales...............
Quote from: Hajj Abdul-Infinite...BANNED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH! on July 25, 2006, 06:54:52 AMJay-Z just uses this retirement thing as a marketing strategy to sell more records.Actually, he's mostly using it as an opportunity to play HNIC more than ever before as Prez of Def Jam, which he does exceptionally well even more than rapping.
Jay-Z just uses this retirement thing as a marketing strategy to sell more records.
It was always obvoius Jay would come back, everyone knew he would. TBA was a dope album, in my opinion his second best, and it was an album that finally made me realize how dope Jay is. See, i was listening to hiphop when Reasonable Doubt came out, and there is no way it was a classic, not until it was forced on us many years later. Dope album, but not classic.And to whoever said Em would be like Talib or Ras if his skin was darker, do you even listen to music?? Ras kass is one of my all-time favourite rappers(SOul on Ice is TOP 5 for me), but its obvious he is horrible when he attempts to make commercially viable songs. Talib is tight as well, but inconsistent with a delivery that the average fan can't get down with.At their peaks, of course Eminem is the better lyricist than Jay. He did shit noone had ever thougbt of, had his own style. However, Em has fallen off WAY HARDER than Jay has. Both rappers are inconsistent with their albums, but Jay's last album was far better than Em's last one. THe thing with Ras, Jay, and Em is, Jay is the only one who doesn't make wack music the majority of the time nowadays.
Today: Jay-Z >>> Eminem. There could not be another emcee like Jigga, no matter how hard dudes try. Eminem, if his skin was darker, would've been another Ras Kass, Talib Kweli, etc. Dude's NOT as great as everyone TRIES to make him out to be. Dude fell off after his first album and just continues to sink lower and lower. People have the nerve to diss someone like Cam'Ron for rapping non-sensical shit, but will be quick to give Eminem a pass for making a song like "Ass Like That." LOL. Dude's garbage.In their prime's: Jigga > Eminem.That "Renegade" track was a bunch of hype. You would hope that Eminem, as an emcee, would have crafted a beat that he knew he could rip. As Business Men: Jigga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EminemRoc-A-Wear (though not Jay's sole creation) shit's all over Shady Wear (LMAO. Who wears that shit?). Roc-A-Fella (and now Def Jam) shit's on Shady. Take away Slim Shady LP, Eminem is just another rapper that makes a catchy first single but follows up with mediocre albums.
Quote from: SGV on July 27, 2006, 10:25:57 PMToday: Jay-Z >>> Eminem. There could not be another emcee like Jigga, no matter how hard dudes try. Eminem, if his skin was darker, would've been another Ras Kass, Talib Kweli, etc. Dude's NOT as great as everyone TRIES to make him out to be. Dude fell off after his first album and just continues to sink lower and lower. People have the nerve to diss someone like Cam'Ron for rapping non-sensical shit, but will be quick to give Eminem a pass for making a song like "Ass Like That." LOL. Dude's garbage.In their prime's: Jigga > Eminem.That "Renegade" track was a bunch of hype. You would hope that Eminem, as an emcee, would have crafted a beat that he knew he could rip. As Business Men: Jigga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EminemRoc-A-Wear (though not Jay's sole creation) shit's all over Shady Wear (LMAO. Who wears that shit?). Roc-A-Fella (and now Def Jam) shit's on Shady. Take away Slim Shady LP, Eminem is just another rapper that makes a catchy first single but follows up with mediocre albums.i disagree bitch Em in his prime >>>>>Jay-z in his prime....and please don't argue with me...we all have opinions....
SGVs definitely got a point. Look at how he was marketed when he first came out in 99. They made a big deal about a white rapper that actually had skill. That's what put him on in the first place. It's sad but true. If he was brown or black, who knows where he'd be in the game. I still got a feeling his music would appeal to people regardless, but not on such a massive scale.
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