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Israeli soldiers returning from the front in Lebanon talk of battling an intelligent, well-prepared and ruthless guerrilla army whose fighters don't seem to fear death.

"It's hard to beat them," one soldier said. "They're not afraid of anything."

"They're not fighting like we thought they would," one soldier said. "They're fighting harder. They're good on their own ground."

One soldier said the guerrillas wore olive green army uniforms "to confuse us" because Israelis wear the same. Others said Hezbollah hid underground in reinforced bunkers until they thought it safe to come out and attack. The Israelis prefer to stay away from those bunkers, the soldiers said, instead calling in coordinates so forces massed behind the border can hit them with guided missiles.

"They're not normal soldiers, you know," Sidorenko said. "They're guerrillas. They're very smart."

"They have good knowledge about where we are, what we're doing, what kinds of weapons we have," Sidorenko said.


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Not every soldier described Hezbollah as fierce. One said that when Israeli troops show up in vehicles, the guerrillas "run like chickens."

The same soldier moments later after his military vehicle was fired at




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By STEVEN GUTKIN, Associated Press Writer Mon Jul 24, 4:14 PM ET

JERUSALEM - Figures released by the Israeli army show the pace of Hezbollah rockets raining down on
Israel has not slowed — and the guerrillas are nowhere close to being neutralized.


Air power alone is proving insufficient to rout Hezbollah, whose determination and intimate knowledge of the terrain are making them a tougher-than-expected foe.

Mideast observers say Hezbollah only has to remain standing — not beat Israel — to emerge victorious in Arab eyes.

Hezbollah actions such as blowing up an Israeli warship with an Iranian-made radar-guided missile or firing rockets at the once out-of-range city of Haifa have shattered taboos and astounded Israel and the world.

The Shiite group has built Viet Cong-style bunkers and tunnels near the Israeli border to shelter weapons and fighters, and its members easily blend in among civilians.

"You are dealing with groups of 10 to 12 very well organized, very well trained people who work out of their homes," said Timur Goksel, a university professor who spent more than two decades as a senior U.N. adviser in south Lebanon. "Don't underestimate the resilience of these people."

Israel says it has already taken out nearly half of the estimated 10,000 to 12,000 Hezbollah rockets in south Lebanon, and that its blockade of the country should help keep the guerrillas from restocking.

But Israeli army figures show there's been no letup in the number of rockets Hezbollah has fired at Israel. Since fighting began, the count stands at more than 1,100, with the number more or less evenly divided over the past 12 days. At least 80 rockets hit Israel on Monday, and two days ago the number was 129.


Most of Hezbollah's rockets have been Iranian-made Katyushas and Syrian-made Raads, with ranges up to 28 miles. Israel also believes Hezbollah possesses the Iranian-made "Zalzal" rocket, which has the range to hit Tel Aviv and cities farther south.

"Certainly Hezbollah doesn't seem to have suffered many casualties and I don't think their military capability has been degraded," Goksel said.

Israel's army chief of staff maintained Friday that nearly 100 guerrillas had been killed in fighting that broke out July 12 when Hezbollah crossed into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers. But military officials have privately lamented what they called the low number of Hezbollah casualties. Hezbollah itself reports only 11 dead.

Fearing a prolonged quagmire and heavy casualties among its troops, Israel says it has no intention of launching a massive land invasion to defeat Hezbollah. But the past several days' small-scale pinpoint operations to root out guerrilla positions along the border are proving far more daunting than expected, according to soldiers returning from battle.

The Israeli troops complain of difficult terrain and being surprised by Hezbollah guerrillas who pop out from behind bushes firing automatic weapons or rocket-propelled grenades. Two Israeli soldiers were killed and 20 were wounded Monday as they tried to take the southern Lebanese town of Bint Jbail amid a heavy exchange of gunfire, missiles and mortars.

The pinpoint incursions are supposed to accomplish what the 4,000 Israeli air sorties have been unable to achieve. But the twin strategy of airstrikes and limited ground offensives will not be enough to force Hezbollah to refrain from launching attacks, said Israeli counter terrorism expert Boaz Ganor.

The issue is fraught with dilemmas for the Jewish state.

Israel is determined not to reoccupy south Lebanon as it did disastrously from 1982 to 2000, but that may be the only way to neutralize Hezbollah.

Israel might want to use a cease-fire to achieve its strategic goals. But a cease-fire that leaves Hezbollah's fighting ability intact could, in the eyes of many Israelis, cause irreparable damage to Israel's deterrent posture and hand a major victory to archenemy
Iran, Hezbollah's prime supporter.

Israeli Cabinet minister Avi Dichter insisted the army's offensive is going fine and that Israel can't be expected to achieve its military objectives overnight, especially given what he said was the government's determination to limit casualties among civilians and Israeli soldiers.

"We know that only in Hollywood it starts at 8 and ends at 10 and normally it's a happy end," he said.

More than 350 people have been killed in Lebanon since the fighting began, according to security officials. Some 600,000 people have fled their homes.

More than 35 Israeli's have died, including 22 soldiers.

If Hezbollah emerges from the fighting with its "military arm more or less intact ... my God they're going to use it as a victory," Goksel said.

"As long as they don't lose, they don't have to win ... because they'll be standing up to the Israelis and in this part of the world that is a victory."
 

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Need to Nuke 'em. 
 

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Yeah nuke em and Israel gets all the nuclear fallout  ;D

That sounds fair.
 

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Need to Nuke 'em. 

smack yourself a couple times, and re-read the posts, Isreal is in no state to nuke em  :P


ahhhh, I TO DA GEEZY ...is this what your "EXPERIENCED GUERILLA WARRIORS" can do ?? lol....what a pitty.


Its not long before your "STRONGEST ARMY"(LOL) asks the U.S for help
 

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well they(hezbollah)'ve been preparing and hyping themselves up for this day for 6 years.
Any1 who thought they wouldn't be ready for a long war against a numerically and technologically superior enemy is an idiot.
Hezbollah , like them or not,  are warriors they're not some Al Quaeda Insurgent who can barely fire an AK they're basically an extension of the Pasradan in Lebanon
 


 

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lol @ melanin deficient, u clowns need a movie
 

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Nuclear Bombs are the answer. 
 

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say no to war.
 

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Yeah; try telling the Israelis that when they roll into your country, or tell Hezbollah that when they kill your neighbor, or tell the palestinians "no to war" when they bomb your kid's school bus.  LOL Get a clue pussy.  War is a fact of life.  It exists.  If you say 'no" to it, you end up with a gun barrel up your ass
 

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Hezballah are good fighters for Arabs, but that isn't saying much.
 

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lol @ melanin deficient, u clowns need a movie

look everyone vinnie is trying to be funny...how cute, dont forget to put this experience in your diary, you're e-friends will love to hear about it.


I see the Isreali guerilla warriors are still getting rammed in the news..lol


 

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Hezballah are good fighters for Arabs, but that isn't saying much.

The families of 2500 dead gi joes would disagree with u cock sucker 187
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