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Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« on: July 27, 2006, 11:07:44 AM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2006, 11:13:36 AM »
Because he's New York...He just wants to be Biggie so bad, he's doing everything he believes Biggie would have done had Biggie not died...That includes stealing Biggies flow, lyrics, and even entire verses. Like you said, he's average...Not even close to the greatest.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2006, 11:19:35 AM »
Nas > Jay-Z

Nas is king of NY
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2006, 11:26:04 AM »
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2006, 11:29:25 AM »
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2006, 11:30:41 AM »
cause he's the closest living thing to biggie
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2006, 11:32:14 AM »
50 is the king of NY, its clear

i dunno, jay-z would be considered the greatest if mainstream rap was your thing, hes very mainstream so the kids who listen to him and think its the truth

us educated ones know andre 3000 is the G.O.A.T
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2006, 11:43:41 AM »
jay-z has 3 certified classics imo... reasonable doubt, blueprint and black album... his next album is sure to hit too, he comes up with the hit records, and has style, flow and charisma on the mic...

 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2006, 11:51:53 AM »
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?

I'll give you a hint, he's dead.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2006, 11:54:20 AM »
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2006, 12:01:37 PM »
^ lol

only songs i like from him are hard knock life and can i live, i just dont like his style..

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2006, 12:03:52 PM »
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?

I'll give you a hint, he's dead.

Hitler?

no Hitler was a good rapper, I'm tallking about Tupac
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2006, 12:06:07 PM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2006, 12:08:03 PM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2006, 12:09:35 PM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X

oh you really think?  ;)
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2006, 12:13:41 PM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X

oh you really think?  ;)



Well, I actually knew this for quite some time, but I've noticed more and more people actually taking him seriously, so I wanted to point that out...
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2006, 12:14:37 PM »
jay-z has 3 certified classics imo...

Yup, how many other rappers can say that ??

Like Snoop said, Jay is the king of N.Y., with Nas not far behind.
What Jay have done and achieved in hiphop, is unrivalled.

 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2006, 12:19:41 PM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X

oh you really think?  ;)



Well, I actually knew this for quite some time, but I've noticed more and more people actually taking him seriously, so I wanted to point that out...
ditto
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2006, 12:29:37 PM »
oh haha i didn't know if sik really liked em or not...either way...my explanation still applies
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2006, 12:34:26 PM »
To me jay is great coz he is a well rounded rapper, he can make tracks for the charts but at the same time there usually not bullshit e.g. eminem and 50. He can do the serious tracks, tracks from the heart, he has got good punchlines and the dude can flow.

He may not be as deep as some other rappers but he is good in every aspect of the game where as a lot of mc' s may be good at one thing and not another.

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2006, 12:36:30 PM »
To me jay is great coz he is a well rounded rapper, he can make tracks for the charts but at the same time there usually not bullshit e.g. eminem and 50. He can do the serious tracks, tracks from the heart, he has got good punchlines and the dude can flow.

He may not be as deep as some other rappers but he is good in every aspect of the game where as a lot of mc' s may be good at one thing and not another.

jay still makes wack shit sometimes...eg: hard knock life, izzo, big pimpin, etc...
 

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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2006, 12:37:42 PM »
I've never thought Jay-Z was anything above the level of "good."  I liked the earlier shit he did in his career, Vol. 1 is OK, and Vol. 2 is a damn good CD.  After that he got WAY too cocky, and thought he was way better than he really is.  It seemed like pretty much everyone else but me bought it.  He just sounds like a dumb piece of shit now to me.  All he does is talk shit and say that he's from New York.  I agree with Jome saying what he did for hip-hop is unrivaled though, I respect his business with starting Roc-A-Fella and moving up to CEO of Def Jam (even though Def Jam has been taking it in the ass ever since he started.)
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2006, 12:48:53 PM »
To me, Jay-Z is the definition of an average rapper...
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PM »
He is one of the 15-20 best rappers ever but he probably is a little overated.

Nas = Jay-Z

Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2006, 12:58:22 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY


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