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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2006, 12:59:07 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY


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Seriousley Nik, I bet if you gave Killa a chance you would be impressed
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2006, 01:01:49 PM »
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2006, 01:03:32 PM »
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2006, 01:03:53 PM »
I've never thought Jay-Z was anything above the level of "good."  I liked the earlier shit he did in his career, Vol. 1 is OK, and Vol. 2 is a damn good CD.  After that he got WAY too cocky, and thought he was way better than he really is.  It seemed like pretty much everyone else but me bought it.  He just sounds like a dumb piece of shit now to me.  All he does is talk shit and say that he's from New York.  I agree with Jome saying what he did for hip-hop is unrivaled though, I respect his business with starting Roc-A-Fella and moving up to CEO of Def Jam (even though Def Jam has been taking it in the ass ever since he started.)

That's how I felt. Everyone was talkin about Jay in the late 90's and how great he is, but I felt like I was the only one that didn't buy it wither.I actually respect him more as a businessman than a rapper, but for most people, it's the other way around.

Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY


LMAO

Seriousley Nik, I bet if you gave Killa a chance you would be impressed

Yeah man, just give em a chance. You'll see the light like I eventually did.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2006, 01:12:31 PM »
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in

hmmm maybe that wasn't you...one of you dipset dickriders said that the other day...either way nobody takes you seriously

sorry for the misquote  ;D
 

Spicemuthafuc*in1

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2006, 01:13:58 PM »
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in

hmmm maybe that wasn't you...one of you dipset dickriders said that the other day...either way nobody takes you seriously

sorry for the misquote  ;D

No it wasnt me Lukey.  Enough beefing bout rap I dont have the energy, u watch True Romance yet?
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2006, 01:16:28 PM »
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in

hmmm maybe that wasn't you...one of you dipset dickriders said that the other day...either way nobody takes you seriously

sorry for the misquote  ;D

No it wasnt me Lukey.  Enough beefing bout rap I dont have the energy, u watch True Romance yet?

nah but thanks for reminding me...i'll rent it next time i go to hollywood...i would've last night but i wanted to rent final destination 3 and my girl hasn't seen the first 2 so we ended up just renting all 3...when i take those back i'll get it for sure though
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2006, 01:17:24 PM »
Sik I respect your opinion but like Chief said and Jome repeated - Jay has 3 classic (at least very least "near-classic") albums.

Dude is in the top 10 MC's of all time without a shadow of a doubt.

To look at how good Jay is - just look at what people have to say about him when they talk about who they think is the G.O.A.T.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2006/emcees/index15.jhtml

People mentioning him include: Cube, Nas, Grandmaster Flash, JD, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim.

I mean if you don't believe what they say, who are you gonna believe?
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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PM »
Sik I respect your opinion but like Chief said and Jome repeated - Jay has 3 classic (at least very least "near-classic") albums.

Dude is in the top 10 MC's of all time without a shadow of a doubt.

To look at how good Jay is - just look at what people have to say about him when they talk about who they think is the G.O.A.T.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2006/emcees/index15.jhtml

People mentioning him include: Cube, Nas, Grandmaster Flash, JD, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim.

I mean if you don't believe what they say, who are you gonna believe?

Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.


 

Don Breezio

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2006, 01:25:24 PM »
Sik I respect your opinion but like Chief said and Jome repeated - Jay has 3 classic (at least very least "near-classic") albums.

Dude is in the top 10 MC's of all time without a shadow of a doubt.

To look at how good Jay is - just look at what people have to say about him when they talk about who they think is the G.O.A.T.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2006/emcees/index15.jhtml

People mentioning him include: Cube, Nas, Grandmaster Flash, JD, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim.

I mean if you don't believe what they say, who are you gonna believe?

Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

see there's where we differ on opinion

i like cam...always have...but i don't like cam's recent stuff...

i think confessions of fire was an incredible album...i wouldn't say classic but it was damn good
S.D.E. was an alright album...i would say it was average
come home with me had some sick songs but started his decline...

and then from there its just been trash
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2006, 01:26:28 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2006, 01:28:02 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2006, 01:29:04 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2006, 01:30:21 PM »
Jay only has 1 classic. Reasonable Doubt is respected by anyone who knows anything about hip-hop. Blueprint and Black Album don't have the same consensus, so they're not classics.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2006, 01:31:05 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2006, 01:32:31 PM »
Fuck the camel
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2006, 01:33:28 PM »
the whole camel thing is played out as hell too...i remember saying jay-z looked like a camel like 8 years ago....its no secret he is probably the ugliest guy in the rap game
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2006, 01:35:00 PM »
Guy who looks like a camel fuckin arguably the hottest female singer around.....legend for that alone 8)
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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2006, 01:36:35 PM »
Guy who looks like a camel fuckin arguably the hottest female singer around.....legend for that alone 8)

amen...and its not like she's doing it for the money lol
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2006, 01:37:56 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers

 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2006, 01:39:36 PM »
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2006, 01:41:23 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

Nah homie, Cam be saying rooty-tooty, pooty-doody, killa, killa mo killa killa fo' killa killa shit too much. While at times, Cam is so retarted & arrogant that he comes off as brilliant, for the most part, he is not that talented. He spit fire on his first 2 releases, then completely lost it with Come Home With Me. Killa Season was dope, but that lies almost entirley with the production. You complain about Kurupt being whack alot, but Cam does the same shit in a differnet way. I just can;t picture how someone could really think of Cam above Jay, Nas, Kiss or even Fab without trying to be funny. I don't care about the pink shit, that was what it was. This man will never be on the level Jay-Z is.

And if Cam is allergic to a flop, that dude must be sick as hell right now. Killa Season FLOPPED.

People like Jay because he appeals to all different types of the hip-hop audience. He has a wider eange than Cam, and comes off as being much smarter. As far as what Sikotic said, I agree with Jay not being the best rapper to listen to, due to a monontnous voice. But he can flow, picks good beats, and above all, is a spectacular lyricist. Jay also has POWER, which alot of folks respect, hes got the baddest chick in the game, which to me also demands respect.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2006, 01:42:07 PM »
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

No your right Killa is still on tops of his game,  he murdered his verses on Killa Season, and he was tight on J.R.'s Byrd Call    "It may seem petty, but we all turn mean deadly, for green fetty, my whole team ready"
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2006, 01:43:01 PM »
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

Again man, Jay has nothing to gain from dissing this clown. He already has the respect on the East, that Cam craves but will never get, especially with his childish dissing of Jay.