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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2006, 08:28:36 PM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.



 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2006, 10:11:10 PM »
pac dissed everyone on that album... i swear to god dipset has you guys brainwashed. I just cant understand it, and im not even saying they suck or i hate them but you guys are crazy. It's one thing to say you prefer them or you enjoy their music but you guys talk like they are gods gift to the mic. Only a very select few emcees get that kind of respect and usually the majority or fans agree or can come to an understanding about them. You guys are a very small % or fans and you challange cam and dipset to everyone talkin all this shit when you are the only ones who agree or even show any love. And to top it off your down right childish and annoying about it.

They are good on the mic, but man you just dont understand the MOVEMENT, its not something you can explain....... ;D

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #77 on: July 28, 2006, 12:36:03 AM »
50 is the king of NY, its clear

i dunno, jay-z would be considered the greatest if mainstream rap was your thing, hes very mainstream so the kids who listen to him and think its the truth

us educated ones know andre 3000 is the G.O.A.T
fif not mainstream!!!!im not a jay fan.but the nigga is one of the last real lyricist from the 93 era.....show some respect jip.and dont just let bullshit roll out your mouth dogg.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #78 on: July 28, 2006, 12:41:40 AM »
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated


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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #79 on: July 28, 2006, 12:42:23 AM »
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
I dont understand why you put titset up there so high,since we being real....on the real my nigga, why is that.cause from what i see,all of that dipset gimmick aint touching nothing J has done...and im not a j-z fan....i know they got beef,but lets keep this shit real and not one sided,thats not fair homie.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #80 on: July 28, 2006, 01:38:42 AM »
The reason Jay is my favorite rapper is because he excels in all aspects of rapping.  He has a sick flow, charisma, lyrics, mic ownership, and wordplay.  Yeah he didn't have the greatest topics to talk about earlier in his career but as his career went on (blueprint and on) he became better with it.  He is the blueprint (pun intended) of an ideal MC

 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2006, 04:49:15 AM »
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated



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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #82 on: July 28, 2006, 04:53:37 AM »
Pease, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
We diggin' him, b. He's riggity raw.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #83 on: July 28, 2006, 04:54:15 AM »
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated



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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #84 on: July 28, 2006, 01:19:56 PM »
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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?

same could be asked about camron, and dipset  :P
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #85 on: July 28, 2006, 03:41:28 PM »
Cam has no significance? They are the new Wu Tang, business wise. They have deals at Def Jam, Warner Bros and Koch. All their projects do good numbers without crazy promo. They generally don't have the biggest producers, but they have very solid production. Their Mixtapes are still highly regarded amongst industry and street cats the same.

Cam has the qualities of a Big Daddy Kane, which is what people really like. He's not wowing you with metaphors and similies, but he always has something clever to say ("You don't like men? Me neither, what a kawinkidink"). Or his brags with that Harlem Swag people jock ("Let my muscle show, cuz I'm like Russel Crowe, Beautiful Mind, took his Bitch, Hustle Hoe!"). It's simple shit like that which is why people dig Cam and the Dips. Cam may not be the second coming of KRS-One, but he's already proved his worth in this game. Like I said, for Biggie and Big L to co-sign you, you have to be hot. 10 Years in the Game and dude is still a major factor without "selling out" or compromising his music.

As for Jigga, dude is a great song writer. He may not appeal to everyone, but his song writing is what captures you. His flow. His swagger. His presence. Just cuz he's not spitting some deep shit like a Nas or someone of that nature, doesn't mean he can't be a great emcee.


I agree with the first part, Jay lost all of his swagger after Ether, was more of a "I just got fucked in my ass" hobble......


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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #86 on: July 28, 2006, 06:15:14 PM »
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated.  But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today.  Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.
 

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #87 on: July 28, 2006, 10:42:01 PM »
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated.  But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today.  Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.

word up..But he cant fuck with the DIPSET!  8)

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #88 on: July 28, 2006, 10:47:19 PM »
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated.  But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today.  Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.

word up..But he cant fuck with the DIPSET!  8)

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Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
« Reply #89 on: July 29, 2006, 01:30:35 AM »
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


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