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« Reply #150 on: November 02, 2006, 03:16:59 AM »
Yeah so Game doesnt sing the hook, he definetly would if he could but he cant. He does sing the hook for Wouldnt Get Far and does an awful job. These tracks are the same becuase they all cater to chicks that was my point.

This album is dope and all but calling it the hardest hip hop album (by that you mean the best i guess) in years is plain silly. I can name 5 better albums from this year easily.

Once again: the album is dope but dont overhype it  ;)

Game don't sing as in "IF I WAS YOUR BEST FRIEND" lol u know what I mean...anyway my point is 50 said Ja was singin and then took his style and ran with it, which Game didn't do.

Game came out on some gangsta shit and remained on some gangsta shit, now I agree it wouldn't hurt to have 1 or 2 club/girl songs on there, songs that Ja Rule & 50 are pros at, but you gotta respect Game's decision to not add one of those type of songs.

I won't overhype this album, but The Documentary was a 4/5 with a eastcoast sound, this is a 4.5/5 with a westcoast sound, imo a westcoast modern day classic - but not really a hip-hop classic.

I know alot of people been complaining about the lack of commercial singles, but do we want him to do a song like "Candy Shop" or "Mezmerised" ? Imo this is real hip-hop which may not appeal to alot of people, but then again back in the days (if we're talking about REAL hip-hop) there weren't people doing 10x platinum e.t.c. so I feel he is going back to his roots.

I think he should had taken Pac's advice tho and make a couple or atleast one song for the ladies, cuz they do buy albums too and this album was kinda hard from beginning to end.

Game did say this album would be alot darker than The Documentary, so I didn't expect a party album even tho it seems alot of people did, but Game made a choice and that choice will hurt his sales but at the end of the day if that's what he needed to do then that's what he needed to do.

Well "Candy Shop" and "Mesmerized" are a LOT different from "In da club" "How we do" "Drop it like it's hot" or even "Just a little bit", which were very dope club songs that will continue to be played in years to come. I am not mad about him not havin anything like this...but it would definitely help him out, and would probably help him to sell even more. If you think about every west coast album that is known to the entire nation and seen as "classic", they ALL have 2-3 commercial songs or club hits that everybody knows.

Agreed, 1 or 2 club songs wouldn't have hurt DA, but I still feel like Game went for a darker album with this album, I think the things in his life was way to serious to create a club album.

Game said it himself this album will be darker than The Documentary and imo that's just what it is. Let's see what he got for his third album.

Yeah so Game doesnt sing the hook, he definetly would if he could but he cant. He does sing the hook for Wouldnt Get Far and does an awful job. These tracks are the same becuase they all cater to chicks that was my point.

This album is dope and all but calling it the hardest hip hop album (by that you mean the best i guess) in years is plain silly. I can name 5 better albums from this year easily.

Once again: the album is dope but dont overhype it  ;)

LOL okay man, different strokes. I guess Rotten Apple and Blood Money are in this list?

LMAO you forgot Thoughts of A Predicate Felony

Game did sing: THIS SONG IS FOR YOUUUUUUU, FOR YOUUUUUUU, FOR ALL YAAAALLLLLLL.

50 was singing since his POwer Of The Dollar days. Yes he was an idiot for dissing Ja but tell me which rapper aint one ?

How are Blood Money and Rotten Apple compared to this ? Both have completley different sounds. While Blood Money and Rotten Apple have an eastcoast, grimey vibe, Docs Advocate is more universal uptempo.

The production on Docs Advocate is way better than the one on Rotten Apple, Games flow is better too, the only thing Banks has in advantage is lyrics. So Docs Advocate takes it.

Blood Money is a different story. Both albums get a 4/5 from me and what Blood Money has in advantage is the whole vibe. Havoc produced like 7,8 joints out of 14, while Game has too many different producers. The whole album just doesnt have a vibe.

So, Docs Advocate= Blood Money>> Rotten Apple
 

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« Reply #151 on: November 02, 2006, 04:35:41 AM »

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« Reply #152 on: November 02, 2006, 04:40:13 AM »
There's some really good cuts, "One Night" & "Doctors Advocate" are my personal favourites right now.
 

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« Reply #153 on: November 02, 2006, 04:44:45 AM »
Blood Money is a different story. Both albums get a 4/5 from me and what Blood Money has in advantage is the whole vibe. Havoc produced like 7,8 joints out of 14, while Game has too many different producers. The whole album just doesnt have a vibe.
I remember you saying you like albums with a universal sound.Anyways all Shady/Aftermath cds sound like that.
 

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« Reply #154 on: November 02, 2006, 05:05:07 AM »
Blood Money is a different story. Both albums get a 4/5 from me and what Blood Money has in advantage is the whole vibe. Havoc produced like 7,8 joints out of 14, while Game has too many different producers. The whole album just doesnt have a vibe.
I remember you saying you like albums with a universal sound.Anyways all Shady/Aftermath cds sound like that.

I think I said that for westcoast cds that are still stuck in the 90's with production from Battlecat, Warren G... And I said they need to be more universal but too much is too much.

And yeah all Shady/Aftermath cs sound like that, thats why these camps havent produced anything classic. Dope ? Yes, but no classics.
 

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« Reply #155 on: November 02, 2006, 08:09:28 AM »
Shit already leaked :o
can anyone PM me the link 8)
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« Reply #156 on: November 02, 2006, 08:29:30 AM »
Tbh game hasn't done anything special but its solid work which is surprisingly hard to come by. The beats aren't anything new, the 9min track being a let down, the beat doesn't even develop that much through the song, just stays the same. The lyrics, well nothing special. There a load of reasons why i'd say this isn'ta classic but this is a good album nevertheless. Game's good at what he does, in times where the importance of the producer is rising and the rapper is becoming less important he will do well because he has a good musical ear. He's a lot like 50 cent in a way, because however much you hate 50 he knows whats a hit
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« Reply #157 on: November 02, 2006, 09:12:13 AM »
alright so after listening to this album all the way through for what... 3 days i must say that this has to be "one of" my fav. albums to be released in the past year or maybe even more. i like every track, even lets ride is growing, and im going to be listening to the album again on the way to school. this album is the shit, i was even thinking about buying a copy...
 

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« Reply #158 on: November 02, 2006, 10:12:23 AM »
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« Reply #159 on: November 02, 2006, 12:16:58 PM »
In my eyes a great album, but not a classic.

You just gotta love it  8)
 

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« Reply #160 on: November 02, 2006, 01:25:56 PM »
can i get a link please, gotta to hear this shit
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« Reply #161 on: November 02, 2006, 01:30:35 PM »
California Vacation in your car =  8)

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« Reply #162 on: November 02, 2006, 02:05:05 PM »
I think what makes a classic album is a vibe through out the album, not many albums have this anymore due to them trying to get all the best producers to submit beats for the album. And ends up lacking a musical vibe & direction. Thought Common's BE had a vibe throught out the album.
 

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« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2006, 08:14:04 AM »
 :o This Album shits on "The Documentary" .....Right now "Ol'English" is probably my favorite song..."Wouldn't Get Far" is also a good song...Game & Kanye shittin on the video hoes  :D....

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« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2006, 11:04:41 AM »
best track Ol English Bang Cali Vocation Lookin At U D.A. Wouldent Get Far.....


very very very good album


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« Reply #165 on: November 04, 2006, 03:42:54 PM »
After some soak time, I'm not impressed at ALL. This should be an instrumental album with maybe just the guests rapping. Sorry guys, I tried and this is hot garbago to me. I mean, we all know everyone wants Detox to come out, but in the mean time, I don't want to hear Game impersonationg Dre on half the songs on his cd. He sounds like Dre to a T on some tracks, very sad if this guy is one of Cali's biggest stars. I only see girls and rap fans under 18 to like this cd. Maybe Im just old schoool.

About 8-9 songs on here that I like, but thats half the album = 2.5 out of 5 = not a good rating. Most people seem to not care about lyrics these days, but Game really needs to step it up. If he ever gets dropped from his major label security blanket, he's in trouble cuz the indy fans won't support someone who can't even write a verse without a) using another rappers name, and b) using a line that another rapper(s) already used multiple times. Also, his infactuation with Dre & Aftremath is VERY suspect. Brings the album down so much.

The good thing I can say about Doc's Advocate is that it is a more mature album, instead of just catering to the clubs. It's still hit and miss on the lyrics, and it's mostly a miss.
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« Reply #166 on: November 04, 2006, 03:49:31 PM »
After some soak time, I'm not impressed at ALL. This should be an instrumental album with maybe just the guests rapping. Sorry guys, I tried and this is hot garbago to me. I mean, we all know everyone wants Detox to come out, but in the mean time, I don't want to hear Game impersonationg Dre on half the songs on his cd. He sounds like Dre to a T on some tracks, very sad if this guy is one of Cali's biggest stars. I only see girls and rap fans under 18 to like this cd. Maybe Im just old schoool.

About 8-9 songs on here that I like, but thats half the album = 2.5 out of 5 = not a good rating. Most people seem to not care about lyrics these days, but Game really needs to step it up. If he ever gets dropped from his major label security blanket, he's in trouble cuz the indy fans won't support someone who can't even write a verse without a) using another rappers name, and b) using a line that another rapper(s) already used multiple times. Also, his infactuation with Dre & Aftremath is VERY suspect. Brings the album down so much.
dont worry game fans, a meth addict's opinion doesnt matter for shit anyways, especially if he's from jersey and rides the west's dick like its the thing to do.  FUCK PHILLYPHAG
 

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« Reply #167 on: November 04, 2006, 03:51:27 PM »
^^^But didnt you just make a thread about Jim Jones having 3 certified classic cds? So, youre an Eastcoast dickrider if Im a Cali dickrider. And, you dickride me as well. If I have time Ill go through your posts and show you that about 60% of your posts were made trashing me. Good for you, still trying to get karma by talking shit about me. ;) Good contribution to the site/

Also, I'm not the only one who feels this way about Game, but you don't say shit to anyone else?
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« Reply #168 on: November 04, 2006, 03:55:46 PM »
Yeah I made a bet with some one that if Game didnt go plat within 6 months I would gladly change my screen name to something saying how "talanted" game is. I dont remeber exactly. ill have to look up my post history...actually i wont have to because game wont go platinum anyways.  posted by phillyboy


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Your opinion will be changed in less than one month when the game will reach platinum status and you'll have a screen with this!!!

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« Reply #169 on: November 04, 2006, 04:05:22 PM »
^^^ I still don't see that happening as Game's buzz is close to 0 on the Superior Coast, however even if he does, that doesn't mean much of anything as far as the music being good. Young Joc & Rick Ross are headed to platinum and have the same lyrical skills of Game.

I wont make bad on the bet, and I will change my screen name if he goes plat, cuz Im a good sport.( how bout "game is moderatley good" lol ) Not to many people on here would go through with it. It's gonna be wierd having somebody with Game in there sig saying how poor of a rapper he is though. But I speak nothing but facts.

So nah, my opinion will stay the same until he steps his game up, or at least hires some good ghostwriters ( you would think he would have done it by now ).

Alot of people on this board know how bad and lazy Game is as an emcee, most people don't wanna speak on it though. And alot of the people that do like Game, forced themselves to do so, either because a) wanna be gangster b) they are from West Coast c) they hate G-Unit.

Im thinking 800K at the most by week 6 unless he sells 350-400K in week one.
 

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« Reply #170 on: November 04, 2006, 04:15:32 PM »
^^^ I still don't see that happening as Game's buzz is close to 0 on the Superior Coast, however even if he does, that doesn't mean much of anything as far as the music being good. Young Joc & Rick Ross are headed to platinum and have the same lyrical skills of Game.

I wont make bad on the bet, and I will change my screen name if he goes plat, cuz Im a good sport.( how bout "game is moderatley good" lol ) Not to many people on here would go through with it. It's gonna be wierd having somebody with Game in there sig saying how poor of a rapper he is though. But I speak nothing but facts.

So nah, my opinion will stay the same until he steps his game up, or at least hires some good ghostwriters ( you would think he would have done it by now ).

Alot of people on this board know how bad and lazy Game is as an emcee, most people don't wanna speak on it though. And alot of the people that do like Game, forced themselves to do so, either because a) wanna be gangster b) they are from West Coast c) they hate G-Unit.

Im thinking 800K at the most by week 6 unless he sells 350-400K in week one.

You really think Young Joc and Rick Ross are on the same level as Game with lyrics?  ???
 

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« Reply #171 on: November 04, 2006, 04:27:32 PM »
^^^ IMO. Last time I said that on here, I got mad hate, but posting that shit on Eastcoast boards, I dont get much of a dispute. I see Game as another manufactured rapper like Ross & Joc. Game may be a little better than Ross ( at least not every song is about the same thing ), but hes about the same as Joc to me. Ive been picking apart the bars on Doc's Advocate and like Rick Ross & Joc, he relys on almost the same way of approaching every verse. Alot of people say, well you can look over the name dropping, but simple facts, he does it TOO much to be taken seriously as someone with talent.

He has succeded in making a better album than the 2 previously named rappers ( add Jeezy to that list too ), but Game is poison to my ears. When I started getting into rap, a rapper's skill level was always taken into consideration and biting was still considered a bad thing. All I really hear from Game except the few concept songs was spitting other rappers names mad times, and on top of that, he spits lines from other classic songs in almost every verse!

I don't hate on anyone for liking the Game. If your a fan, that's cool on every level, I probably like rappers that you think are wack. ( If your a dickrider, and get aggresive on me for saying what I'm sayin like the indian kid from the bay does, then fuck you, you got your own issues to work out before you come at me. ) Many of my friends listen to the guy, I tell them the same thing I'm telling you. Am I disputing that Game has a large number of fans? Of course not. Do I think he will do a mill after 6 weeks? Probably not. I just feel that Game is subpar at his best. I stick by my comments. Like I said just my opinion, don't hate on me . ( I might even have Game in my sig by December  ;) )

Oh yeah, and to the little indian boy, I see your still online, but it looks like you ain;t saying shit now coward. Would you like me to keep my responses to a sentence at maximum so you can understand it, and maybe then try to muster a good, competitive reply?
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« Reply #172 on: November 04, 2006, 04:38:01 PM »
^^^ IMO. Last time I said that on here, I got mad hate, but posting that shit on Eastcoast boards, I dont get much of a dispute. I see Game as another manufactured rapper like Ross & Joc. Game may be a little better than Ross ( at least not every song is about the same thing ), but hes about the same as Joc to me. Ive been picking apart the bars on Doc's Advocate and like Rick Ross & Joc, he relys on almost the same way of approaching every verse. Alot of people say, well you can look over the name dropping, but simple facts, he does it TOO much to be taken seriously as someone with talent.

He has succeded in making a better album than the 2 previously named rappers ( add Jeezy to that list too ), but Game is poison to my ears. When I started getting into rap, a rapper's skill level was always taken into consideration and biting was still considered a bad thing. All I really hear from Game except the few concept songs was spitting other rappers names mad times, and on top of that, he spits lines from other classic songs in almost every verse!

I don't hate on anyone for liking the Game. If your a fan, that's cool on every level, I probably like rappers that you think are wack. ( If your a dickrider, and get aggresive on me for saying what I'm sayin like the indian kid from the bay does, then fuck you, you got your own issues to work out before you come at me. ) Many of my friends listen to the guy, I tell them the same thing I'm telling you. Am I disputing that Game has a large number of fans? Of course not. Do I think he will do a mill after 6 weeks? Probably not. I just feel that Game is subpar at his best. I stick by my comments. Like I said just my opinion, don't hate on me . ( I might even have Game in my sig by December  ;) )

Oh yeah, and to the little indian boy, I see your still online, but it looks like you ain;t saying shit now coward. Would you like me to keep my responses to a sentence at maximum so you can understand it, and maybe then try to muster a good, competitive reply?

Chill homie, I just asked you a question. You explained yourself and I can respect your opinion. Sometimes you have to stand alone with your beliefs so it's all good. It's just music at the end of the day.
 

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« Reply #173 on: November 04, 2006, 04:42:14 PM »
I'm chill as can be, the negative aspects of that post werent directed at you Nice. I just quoted you so you would know I answered your question best as I could.
 

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« Reply #174 on: November 04, 2006, 04:47:01 PM »
I'm chill as can be, the negative aspects of that post werent directed at you Nice. I just quoted you so you would know I answered your question best as I could.

Ok. Yeah I can understand what you are saying. Hip hop as a whole is very cut and paste right now. A few dope rappers here and there. As for Game, he is cool, I think alot of people hype him up like they do because people want somebody other than Snoop and Dre to make some noise from the west.