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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2007, 10:00:45 AM »
was jay z part of the group og flavor cause the music video channel didn't credit him...


damn, i didn't know he was doin' stuff that long ago. that verse is sick.can someone upload some of the 80's/90's stuff of his?

that showme what you got song is 5 times better than for example "can i get a" shit like that is garbage.

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He wasn't a part of original flavor.  I believe one of those dudes is his cousin or something like that though.  Oh and Can I Get A>>>>>>Show Me What You Got.

 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2007, 10:04:05 AM »
jay-z puts out tracks in or around his album for niggaz like you who think because of a few crossover tracks he's lost it

listen to :

dear summer
ignorant shit
my first song
minority report
44 fours
corporate takover



then tell us he's lost it

don't sleep on these tracks

I never said he lost it, I said he sucks now.  Kingdom Come is arguably Jay's wackest album imo.  He killed a couple joints on Black Album, especially my first song.  But even that album is highly overrated.  How many of those tracks you listed were of KC? Oh and 22 Twos>>>44 Fours
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2007, 12:38:35 PM »
was jay z part of the group og flavor cause the music video channel didn't credit him...


damn, i didn't know he was doin' stuff that long ago. that verse is sick.can someone upload some of the 80's/90's stuff of his?

that showme what you got song is 5 times better than for example "can i get a" shit like that is garbage.

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He wasn't a part of original flavor.  I believe one of those dudes is his cousin or something like that though.  Oh and Can I Get A>>>>>>Show Me What You Got.


"Can I Get A" is miles ahead of "Show Me What You Got" as an all round track
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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2007, 02:28:25 PM »
I dot like jay-z's new album but up untill this one i liked all his other records.
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2007, 05:33:34 PM »
As the hommie sanford & sons would say FUCK JAY-Z
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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2007, 10:28:24 AM »
jay-z did kill that shit.

now, hes just shit.


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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2007, 02:22:52 PM »
Yeah the old Jay-Z was dope.. but the new sucks balls..
I like his flow from that time..

check out this video:

from 1990

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2007, 10:39:53 AM »
what is the above song called? that shit is cool too. who is that Jaz guy? what's his deal? does jay still fuck with him or what? i know he's on RD. eh.

this ain't jay be like crooked I and take more than half a decade to drop a record. that's kind of encouraging.

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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2007, 10:54:40 AM »
Same shit with Eminem, I heard If Get Locked up Tonight at my friends house the other day and was like damn Em split flames
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2007, 11:57:43 AM »
Yeah the old Jay-Z was dope.. but the new sucks balls..
I like his flow from that time..

check out this video:

from 1990

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/lM9piaE6H9Y" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/lM9piaE6H9Y</a>

thats dope, best of jay's earlier flow that i heard. but i think jay started to shine when he slowed his flow down.

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2007, 12:27:43 PM »
what's that I am the one shit? what a fuck he is. beans and memph are mad average. memph comes cool on RD. so does Jay z. when he slows down, his annoying voice is just way too apparent. goddamn that shit is annoying.

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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2007, 01:01:27 PM »
what's that I am the one shit? what a fuck he is. beans and memph are mad average. memph comes cool on RD. so does Jay z. when he slows down, his annoying voice is just way too apparent. goddamn that shit is annoying.

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Beans is dope, Bleek is average tho
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2007, 01:38:09 PM »
where is beans from and why does he say "LA style" in that song?

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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2007, 03:34:12 PM »
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Nah Beans is from South Philly
 

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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2007, 04:49:47 PM »
what's that I am the one shit? what a fuck he is. beans and memph are mad average. memph comes cool on RD. so does Jay z. when he slows down, his annoying voice is just way too apparent. goddamn that shit is annoying.

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Beans is dope, Bleek is average tho
yeah. beans is a rapper that dame dash found. memph is just jays childhood friend.
 

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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2007, 06:45:38 PM »
what is the above song called? that shit is cool too. who is that Jaz guy? what's his deal? does jay still fuck with him or what? i know he's on RD. eh.

this ain't jay be like crooked I and take more than half a decade to drop a record. that's kind of encouraging.

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Jaz is "Jaz-o The Originator".  Jaz really founded that style of rappin.  Jay-Z was his prodige'.  Jaz-o / Jay-Z...get it?  Jaz-O was also on "Jigga What, Jigga Who" on the final verse and he absolutely smashes that shit as well.  Anyway, Jay blew up after he slowed his shit way down.  He left that old style and Jaz behind.
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2007, 11:59:35 AM »
he doesn't fuck with jaz anymore or what?

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2007, 04:56:39 PM »
Jrome I respect your hip hop knowledge make no mistake about that.

But this thread is pointless in my eyes.

No-one in their right mind would argue that Jay's recent album is wack for (at least half or) the majority.

No-one in their right mind would argue that Jay's verses or chorus on SMWYG can fuck with any of his early 90's shit.

He has let himself down in a big way, he should never come back and dropped this trash.

But comparing his old early 90's flow to his current day flow seems meaningless to me.

If it was to bring his early quick-flow to the attention of people fair enough but I think most people knew he was mad dope a while ago and is horrible right now.

In all honesty tho - I think he killed it for years with his slow flow.
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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2007, 06:05:23 PM »
Jrome I respect your hip hop knowledge make no mistake about that.

But this thread is pointless in my eyes.

No-one in their right mind would argue that Jay's recent album is wack for (at least half or) the majority.

No-one in their right mind would argue that Jay's verses or chorus on SMWYG can fuck with any of his early 90's shit.

He has let himself down in a big way, he should never come back and dropped this trash.

But comparing his old early 90's flow to his current day flow seems meaningless to me.

If it was to bring his early quick-flow to the attention of people fair enough but I think most people knew he was mad dope a while ago and is horrible right now.

In all honesty tho - I think he killed it for years with his slow flow.

I see what you're saying.  I wasn't trying to bait anyone into saying that Jigga 2007>>>Jigga 1993.  What I was trying to illustrate was why I knock his new shit so much, because several people have asked me why I "hate" on Kindom Come.  To me, hating is basically disliking something with no merit.  And so I'm pleading my case of why I "hate" that album.  I think too many people believe the hype - Budweiser commercials, Pres of Def Jam, coming out of retirement, big name producers, corny gimmicky hooks, 1st week sales, etc.  All that shit distracts from the actual product, which is complete crap. 

Also, which I've said before is that I own almost every one of his albums.  The fact that he merely slowed his flow down didn't discredit him - he made some dope ass joints.  Even Black Album had a couple of really sick joints (eventhough that album was grossly overhyped and didn't deliver).  But Kingdom Come is just horrible.
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2007, 07:02:07 PM »
IMO, just about anything (HIP-HOP) Circa 93-94
kill's today's Shit-Hop.

Including JiggaMan

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2007, 08:43:03 PM »
what is the above song called? that shit is cool too. who is that Jaz guy? what's his deal? does jay still fuck with him or what? i know he's on RD. eh.

this ain't jay be like crooked I and take more than half a decade to drop a record. that's kind of encouraging.

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Jaz is "Jaz-o The Originator".  Jaz really founded that style of rappin.  Jay-Z was his prodige'.  Jaz-o / Jay-Z...get it?  Jaz-O was also on "Jigga What, Jigga Who" on the final verse and he absolutely smashes that shit as well.  Anyway, Jay blew up after he slowed his shit way down.  He left that old style and Jaz behind.
after  Jay-Z  heard his "IDOL" Nas  on "Ny state of mind"  rappin all slow   just  killlin it " I'm takin rappers to a new plateau  through rap slow"  i think he  heard that shit and flipped his style
 

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2007, 08:47:03 PM »
he doesn't fuck with jaz anymore or what?

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there was a whole thing in the source about them to years ago  talkin to jaz-o ... dude was straight pissed off from basically creating jay-z then jay got big left him to be an antique
 

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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2007, 01:02:04 AM »
where is beans from and why does he say "LA style" in that song?

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he's givin it up to L.A for that gangsta shit.
 

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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2007, 02:05:15 AM »

some classic jay-z

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/zM_xlIaxClk" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/zM_xlIaxClk</a> hard knock life

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/X4nq5VGQm1s" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/X4nq5VGQm1s</a> money aint a thang

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kanye and jay in the studio.

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for those who havent seen fade to black, jay and timbo in the studio.. LOL @timbo with a banana  ;D

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Re: Jay-Z Then and Now...
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2007, 10:57:36 AM »
man oh man do i feel that hard knock life,and can i get a and money ain't a thang are really unpleasant experiences.

this ain't jaz be mad, that's fucked up that Jay did that.
IMO, just about anything (HIP-HOP) Circa 93-94
kill's today's Shit-Hop.

Including JiggaMan

fo real

I greatly disagfree, everyone always thinks a time of before was more littered with good art because the good art is all you remember. I guarantee you there was as much bad music back then, you just don't remember because poor art is unmemorable. To me this mentality is the same kind of mentality that leads every generation to thinking the world will end during their lifetime: in other words, what makes now/us/you so goddamn special? Nah, there's always good and bad art.

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