Turkish-Armenian writer shot dead

[King Tech Quadafi]

Hrant Dink, a prominent voice in Turkey's shrinking Armenian community, has been killed by a gunman at the entrance to his newspaper's offices in Istanbul on Friday.
 
Dink, a 53-year-old Turkish journalist of Armenian descent, had been tried many times for publicising the killings of Armenians by Turks at the beginning of the 20th century.
 
 
 

Dink was the editor of the bilingual Turkish-Armenian newspaper Agos and a public figure in Turkey.
 
He was most recently convicted in October of "insulting Turkishness" and received a six-month suspended sentence. He had received threats from nationalists, who viewed him as a traitor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Arrests

Muammer Guler, the governor of Istanbul, was quoted by the Anatolia news agency as saying that three people have been taken into custody in connection with the Dink's murder.

In previous interviews with the press, Dink had cried as he talked about some of his fellow countrymen's hatred for him, saying he could not stay in a country where he was unwanted.
 
Turkey's private NTV television earlier said police were searching for the suspected murderer, believed to be a teenager wearing a white hat and a denim jacket.
 
Dink's body could be seen covered with a white sheet in front of the newspaper's entrance on Friday.
 
NTV said four empty shell casings were found on the ground and that he was killed by two bullets to the head.
 
Strong condemnation
 
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister, said the killing was an attack against Turkey's unity.
 
"I stress that the attack on Dink is an attack on us all - on  our unity, our integrity, our peace and stability," Erdogan told reporters at a hastily called news conference.

"This is an attack against freedom of thought and our democratic  way of life."
Thousands of Turks took to the streets to protest against the murder.

Some 2,000 people gathered at Taksim Square, the main business and entertainment centre of Istanbul, as hundreds of riot police looked on.

"We are all Armenians, We are all Hrant Dink," chanted the protesters, many carrying red carnations and pictures of Dink with the inscription "My dear brother" in Turkish, Armenian and English.

One demonstrator waved Turkish and Armenian flags.

The protesters were marching to the offices of Dink's newspaper in the Sisli district, about three kilometers away, where hundreds of others have kept a vigil since his murder.

In Ankara, about 700 people - trade unionists and human rights activists - held a 30-minute sit-in in central Kizilay square, the Anatolia news agency reported.

 
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BDCEC5AA-A555-413E-8C0D-7D5EEB2D35C5.htm

[Suffice]

Turkish denial of the Genocide won't be tolerated for much longer. Armenians are getting more and more powerful everyday. The time will come. This event just speaks of the vile ways the Turks resort to in order to hide the historical facts

I should probably read the whole article, but right now I will be leaving my pad

[Sikotic™]

Their attempt to silence that journalist will only backfire on them and make the truth more widespread. It's too bad the man had to die for trying to get the truth out. RIP.

[J @ M @ L]

Cey Cey, where you at boy?

[Real American]

Muslims always kill anyone who criticizes them.

[IRAN iz Gangsta!]

Its fucked up that the turks deny that but the armenians are also pushing the issue too much sometimes.  I know my armenian friends do not like turks no matter what but today's generation has nothing to do with what happened 80 years ago. 

[Jay_J]

it was a bad day for Türkiye. Because Hrant Dink is the man stands between Türks and Armanians. I see the world see that murder as "a turk killed an armanian because of racisim because of hate armanians because of other bulshit"...so they genocide armanians in 1915... Woooww... As i said Hrant was a Turkish - Armanian and he was trying to bring peace for each nations, especially for armanians.  JML, maybe you don't know Hrant had talked in French Parliamentary against the law which punnish people who says there was no (so called)Armanian Genocide. He always made Armanian Diaspora angry. Hrant Dink was a luck for Türkiye. He lived,speaked, ate and danced half Turkish in his all life. We all liked him. But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains, also you can find anybody to make him kill somebody for money,it's not about Türkiye. He was a different man and luck for Türkiye and this situation disturbed somebody. So they gave a gun to a 17 year old child with saying he is an armanian who swears Turks. I know some like JML is very happy about with this situation, like Türkiye's enemies. But we are sad. 10,000 Türkish people gathered and carried posters which "We are all Armenians, We are all Hrant Dink," written on. You read and watch armanian genocide lie with one perspective, you don't know how many Türkish people killed by armanain gangs, how many armanian killed by armanian gangs however i know how many armanians killed by türks, died by movement and disease, also Türkish people died by movement and disease because of the epidemic and war on Anatolia... And i'm asking WHY?

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

Muslims always kill anyone who criticizes them.

This is a result of Turkish nationalism, not Islam.  Turkish nationalists from the era of the Armenian conflict (WW1 time period) fought to destroy the Kalifa of the Ottoman Empire, and after removing Sultan Abdul-Hamid from power they attacked the Armenians in the name of Turkish nationalism, not Islam. 

Although in defense of the Turkish nationalists, let me say that the Armenians had been giulty of stabbing the Turks in the backs and were operatives, spy's and inserrectionists for foriegn enemies of Turkey.

[Jay_J]

Muslims always kill anyone who criticizes them.

This is a result of Turkish nationalism, not Islam.  Turkish nationalists from the era of the Armenian conflict (WW1 time period) fought to destroy the Kalifa of the Ottoman Empire, and after removing Sultan Abdul-Hamid from power they attacked the Armenians in the name of Turkish nationalism, not Islam. 

Although in defense of the Turkish nationalists, let me say that the Armenians had been giulty of stabbing the Turks in the backs and were operatives, spy's and inserrectionists for foriegn enemies of Turkey.

it's not about turkish nationalism. Because i'm a nationalist, not a racist, i respect every idea but sometimes i dont have to like ideas, i respect but i dont like. we as real türkish nationalists respect and also like Hrant Dink's ideas. And we didn't attacked Armanians, we attacked Armanian gangs(who killed,raped pregnant womens) in the name of stay alive. I accept some türkish people(not soldiers) killed innocent armanians with think they had to kill before armanians kill him. Also some innocent armanians forced to kill türkish people by armanian gangs. It's about see the history by each nations.

[J @ M @ L]

But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains
You said it, not me.


I know some like JML is very happy about with this situation, like Türkiye's enemies.
Why would I be happy about this? LOL. I don't give a fuck. I'm not Turkish or Armenian... I'm Muslim though, and I still think what the Turks did to the Armenians is fucked up. Yes, it was genocide.
 

i know how many armanians killed by türks, died by movement and disease, also Türkish people died by movement and disease because of the epidemic and war on Anatolia... And i'm asking WHY?
LOL @ died by movement. Turks forced them to move... to march across the fucking desert... it doesn't take a genius to figure out that wandering hundreds of miles across the desert is going to have some kind of consequences, especially for older people, children, women, etc. And I don't think you'd even want to get into what the Turks did to them along the way.

I accept some türkish people(not soldiers) killed innocent armanians with think they had to kill before armanians kill him.

You just exposed how full of shit, or dumb, you really are. You accept that Turks killed INNOCENT Armenians because they believed those INNOCENT Armenians would kill them if they hadn't done it first. Are you really using this fucking logic, or lack there of, to justify this? The only thing you were right about, and the only thing you have proven in your posts is:

But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains

[Jay_J]

But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains
You said it, not me.


I know some like JML is very happy about with this situation, like Türkiye's enemies.
Why would I be happy about this? LOL. I don't give a fuck. I'm not Turkish or Armenian... I'm Muslim though, and I still think what the Turks did to the Armenians is fucked up. Yes, it was genocide.
 

i know how many armanians killed by türks, died by movement and disease, also Türkish people died by movement and disease because of the epidemic and war on Anatolia... And i'm asking WHY?
LOL @ died by movement. Turks forced them to move... to march across the fucking desert... it doesn't take a genius to figure out that wandering hundreds of miles across the desert is going to have some kind of consequences, especially for older people, children, women, etc. And I don't think you'd even want to get into what the Turks did to them along the way.

I accept some türkish people(not soldiers) killed innocent armanians with think they had to kill before armanians kill him.

You just exposed how full of shit, or dumb, you really are. You accept that Turks killed INNOCENT Armenians because they believed those INNOCENT Armenians would kill them if they hadn't done it first. Are you really using this fucking logic, or lack there of, to justify this? The only thing you were right about, and the only thing you have proven in your posts is:

But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains

you read it carefully but you miss somewhere... everycountry got ill and weak brains, every nation, every 100 people you can stop in a street... it's not a smart thing to use " but we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains"...you seems a little weak with using it twice... You are like papparazies, you cut my speech and using me what you want to mean by me... I SAID "But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains, also you can find anybody to make him kill somebody for money,it's not about Türkiye"
that simply shows what you want to do... like what armanian diaspora did to you. You heard something maybe read(is it possible, do you read any books about this problem) you see what you able to see around. i understand this. But if you talk about a subject. You have to read. You have to read more and different type looks for this subject. You can mix each one inside and decide what "YOU" think about.

i believe you are happy. Because you believe this "so called" genocide, you believe that Turks are barbarian(oh my god i said "Turks are barbarian" you can use it JML) and this murder proooves what you believe right? One murder can proove a lie in your life ha.. that's so sad

We forced them to move. Yes you are correct. But we didnt made them to move any country. They moved south in Ottoman Empire. Soldiers escorted them all the way for using the healty way. Yes gangs attacked them across the movement, Like arabic gangs and kurdish gangs in Syria for money or something else valuable. Turks did nothing to them across the way. How can you think that, can we attack them when we fight against France, England, Greece and Russia. We were trying to protect ourselves. I assure you we got no time to think anything except protecting our lives. 486,000 of 500,000 in Syria helped by Ottoman with giving them food,money and place to stay. This was prooved with a document sent by Halep Consalate to Morgenthau( U.S.A's Ottomon consalate). Also government let Red-Cross to escort and help Armanians. And Lansing from U.S. diplomatic service sent a letter to Wilson about 2 million dollar help of missionaries per month. I think it wont be a surprise if i say England blocked the helps like drugs and foods.And another important detail Ottoman government says "do a census where they moved". How a country want a census if they want to genocide.I think you'll never able to see and hear this truths or you won't want to.

And again there is something showing your aim and hate. You are talkin about what i said about innocent armanians killed. Sorry i forgot to add "INNOCENT" in front of turkish pregnant womens, childs and men. I want peace and i want to say something. Something you treat like you never read. Some armanians are forced by armanian gangs to kill innocent turks with saying them Turks will kill you, do it first. So many turks killed by their armanian neighbours. You don't know Turks entrusted their women and children to their Armanian brothers when they go to war. But some armanians killed them. Do you know that? Hey JML are you there? Heeeyyyy

I never forgive who killed my 500,000 people. But i never hate all armanians. It was not all's fault. That's the way i look. That's the way to bring peace.

[J @ M @ L]

you read it carefully but you miss somewhere... everycountry got ill and weak brains, every nation, every 100 people you can stop in a street... it's not a smart thing to use " but we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains"...you seems a little weak with using it twice... You are like papparazies, you cut my speech and using me what you want to mean by me... I SAID "But we Türkiye got some ill and weak brains, also you can find anybody to make him kill somebody for money,it's not about Türkiye"
that simply shows what you want to do... like what armanian diaspora did to you. You heard something maybe read(is it possible, do you read any books about this problem) you see what you able to see around. i understand this. But if you talk about a subject. You have to read. You have to read more and different type looks for this subject. You can mix each one inside and decide what "YOU" think about.

1. You're the who said that, I just quoted you.
2. For your information... yes, I have looked into this subject, have read several books on it, have looked at shit from both sides, and then came to the conclusion that I did. Your government obviously has something to hide when people who speak on the topic are punished for insulting "Turkishness" (Article 301). TURKISH intellectuals who are starting to expose the government's actions are being punished left and right.

i believe you are happy. Because you believe this "so called" genocide, you believe that Turks are barbarian(oh my god i said "Turks are barbarian" you can use it JML) and this murder proooves what you believe right? One murder can proove a lie in your life ha.. that's so sad

Again, I have no reason to be happy or sad about this. I could honestly care less. I never claimed that Turks are barbarian, nor did I state that this murder proves anything of that sort. That also doesn't mean that there wasn't a genocide.

We forced them to move. Yes you are correct. But we didnt made them to move any country. They moved south in Ottoman Empire. Soldiers escorted them all the way for using the healty way. Yes gangs attacked them across the movement, Like arabic gangs and kurdish gangs in Syria for money or something else valuable. Turks did nothing to them across the way. How can you think that, can we attack them when we fight against France, England, Greece and Russia. We were trying to protect ourselves. I assure you we got no time to think anything except protecting our lives. 486,000 of 500,000 in Syria helped by Ottoman with giving them food,money and place to stay. This was prooved with a document sent by Halep Consalate to Morgenthau( U.S.A's Ottomon consalate). Also government let Red-Cross to escort and help Armanians. And Lansing from U.S. diplomatic service sent a letter to Wilson about 2 million dollar help of missionaries per month. I think it wont be a surprise if i say England blocked the helps like drugs and foods.And another important detail Ottoman government says "do a census where they moved". How a country want a census if they want to genocide.I think you'll never able to see and hear this truths or you won't want to.

And again there is something showing your aim and hate. You are talkin about what i said about innocent armanians killed. Sorry i forgot to add "INNOCENT" in front of turkish pregnant womens, childs and men. I want peace and i want to say something. Something you treat like you never read. Some armanians are forced by armanian gangs to kill innocent turks with saying them Turks will kill you, do it first. So many turks killed by their armanian neighbours. You don't know Turks entrusted their women and children to their Armanian brothers when they go to war. But some armanians killed them. Do you know that? Hey JML are you there? Heeeyyyy

I never forgive who killed my 500,000 people. But i never hate all armanians. It was not all's fault. That's the way i look. That's the way to bring peace.



You are not telling me anything I already didn't know. I'm not trying to convince you that there was a genocide, nor will you deceive me into thinking that there wasn't. I never said innocent Turks didn't die... but that also doesn't disprove any argument being put forth. However, since you mentioned raids by Kurds, you do know that Turks played a role in getting the Kurds to do that right? Wait, you even acknowledge that soldiers escorted them... isn't the point of escorting them to keep them safe... so were the soldiers too busy sticking soujouks up eachothers asses while the Kurds were handling their nightly raids to kill Armenians?
I think the way to bring peace is for the government to accept what it has done in the past.

[Jay_J]

1. You're the who said that, I just quoted you. (you know you quoted it less, it was very funny to see you when you ruin all the things)
2. For your information... yes, I have looked into this subject, have read several books on it, have looked at shit from both sides, and then came to the conclusion that I did. Your government obviously has something to hide when people who speak on the topic are punished for insulting "Turkishness" (Article 301). TURKISH intellectuals who are starting to expose the government's actions are being punished left and right. ( All european countries has the same Article 301, now you see i'm very rightfull when i say "read and search before speak")



[You are not telling me anything I already didn't know. I'm not trying to convince you that there was a genocide, nor will you deceive me into thinking that there wasn't. I never said innocent Turks didn't die... but that also doesn't disprove any argument being put forth. However, since you mentioned raids by Kurds, you do know that Turks played a role in getting the Kurds to do that right? Wait, you even acknowledge that soldiers escorted them... isn't the point of escorting them to keep them safe... so were the soldiers too busy sticking soujouks up eachothers asses while the Kurds were handling their nightly raids to kill Armenians?
I think the way to bring peace is for the government to accept what it has done in the past.

Yes we said to Kurdish gangs "attack the armanians" maybe we also said them "kill Turks" you are getting real funny right now. And you are talkin about we didn't protected them. I think you dont know why we had to make Armanians move south. We were in war with Russia and England. They tried to use them and they did. They hit us behind. They killed our soliders, and our people. We were in the middle of fires. We protected them as much as we "able" to.

And you dont know what is peace. Peace is not to swear your granpa's, History is a science and science men can talk and decide them. We always told to world for found a committee under UNITED NATIONS to search what happened in 1915. Why Armania reject this, whay they run away. They know they are lying, we are ready to discuss it in front of all of the world. We believe our history. But they are still lying about a histoy they dont trust to discuss.

Let me show you what is a massacre or genocide



The photograph taken on April 25 th 1918

The Armanian government is till the same since 1915. The terrorists who killed our 41 diplomat are heros there. The government is the same Tashnak gang ( do you know the Tashnaks, the murderers). Don't you know what they did in 1991. They did it again. Like they did in 1915.

http://www.human.az

Look what they did 15 years ago in the modern world of 90's

why dont you talking bout that?

i'm askin again " WHY "

can it be the reason of Hate Turks.
it cant be, it mustn't be

[J @ M @ L]

Having Article 301 and using it to send people to prison for discussing their government's past actions isn't the same thing, buddy. You haven't answered why the Turkish government punishes Turkish intellectuals for this? What are they trying to hide? (Example: Orhan Pamuk)

I know that factions of Armenians were used against the Ottoman government. But over 1 million people?

Forcing an entire ethnic group to march hundreds of miles across the desert isn't really "protecting them". You don't think they knew that a shitload of them would die? Or did their ill and weak brains prevent them from realizing this?

Yes, I know about all the Armenian terrorist activities against Turkish diplomats... but again, that doesn't disprove that there was a genocide. You saying "oh but look what they did to us" doesn't mean shit... I'll agree that these events occurred, but so what?

And please, I know you don't wanna get into an exchange of posting pictures...



Cey Cey, does Orhan Pamuk also hate Turks? Seriously, you're an idiot if you think people recognize this as genocide simply because they "hate Turks". I don't hate Turks, and I don't think Orhan Pamuk is a self-hating Turk... do you, with your ill and weak brain, believe this?

[Jay_J]

I don't like the 301 article however it's necessary but it must be changed a little... And I dont like Orhan Pamuk. Everybody knows nobel is a political thing.

And we dont forced armanians march across a "desert". They marched near "Fırat and "Dicle" rivers. Look what you heard and talking bout, it is wrong. and i think it must be 1.5 million armanian JML. 1 million is less i think. Maybe 2 million. Search more. One million mustn't be enogh to you. The truth :there were 800,000 armanian in Ottoman(the census done by Armanian minister) and like % 70 of them moved.

I never said "oh but look what they did to us"... i said "look what they did"... i never used "but"... do you understand what i'm meaning?

Orhan Pamuk lied about our history, sweared our grandpa's to win the Nobel... I was polite at all, I never sweared you JML but you did at the end. Yes my ill and weak brain believe this, you are right. You get angry when you see all the things you were talkin are wrong ha? Go on.

And how old are you? It seems you are young... Because you dont understand what i'm telling you...  You cant talk as an adult