Nas: " GRODT was the last time it felt hip hop was alive"

[Meho]

I have no problem about Nas not looking for beef. I like that. Beef shit is getitng played out.

I was talking about Nas flip floping before. Just check his interviews from September ahead. One interview hes saying hip hop is alive, next interview hip hop is dead. One interview he say South is responsible for "death", next interview he gives props.

Nas is known for his bipolar charcter.

Dont get me wrong "Hip Hop Is Dead" was my fav album of 06.

[Throwback]

i just cant get into hiphop is dead. i try and i try, but i still dont like it.

[LyRiCaL_G]

all i know is 50 aint fit to clean nas shoes thats how big the difference in class between the two niggaz is....

nas is the best rapper alive when his on game and is an all time great.....50 aint touching that

nuff said

[Elevz]

I was talking about Nas flip floping before. Just check his interviews from September ahead. One interview hes saying hip hop is alive, next interview hip hop is dead. One interview he say South is responsible for "death", next interview he gives props.

Nas is known for his bipolar charcter.

I'm not convinced yet. Looking at it from Nas' "Hip Hop Is Dead" perspective:
- The south is making money. That's real, and Nas respects that.
- At the same time, the south is creatively killing Hip-Hop.
- Hip-Hop is dead (sick, in a state of emergency, any way you might want to put it)
- Hip-Hop can easily be resurrected. In fact, it isn't even dead yet. It just needs someone to push the movement, and I don't mean dipset.

So I don't see what's so contradictory about all this, because it all makes perfect sense to me.

[Meho]

That might be it. Fact is none of us know the real story behind it. To say that Nas called an album 2Hip Hop is Dead" simply because he wanted to "reach the hearts of the fans and make hip hop a wonderful place" is naive. He knew the title would cause a lot of controvery and buzz for his album. And that was my whole point. All this talk started when 2 of us said this was a promotional stunt and it was. Its also ttrue that he wanted to let people know that the state of hip hop atm aint good. And I give him props for that.

[LyRiCaL_G]

the album title is genius mang....which ever point of view your coming with....y'all make valid points.......

fact is hiphopis dead title....its gon get people talking....so its promotion....but at the same time nigga rasing some real deep and truth issues right now that be affecting rap....as at the moment the state of hiphop is terrible......"aint good" just dont cut it....but u see when people speak of hiphop dying.....then they may raise nas in the coversation because he named his album that....so its both raising issues and word of mouf promotion for a nigga.....either way u put it....nas is a genius

nuff said

peace

[LyRiCaL_G]

I was talking about Nas flip floping before. Just check his interviews from September ahead. One interview hes saying hip hop is alive, next interview hip hop is dead. One interview he say South is responsible for "death", next interview he gives props.

Nas is known for his bipolar charcter.

I'm not convinced yet. Looking at it from Nas' "Hip Hop Is Dead" perspective:
- The south is making money. That's real, and Nas respects that.
- At the same time, the south is creatively killing Hip-Hop.
- Hip-Hop is dead (sick, in a state of emergency, any way you might want to put it)
- Hip-Hop can easily be resurrected. In fact, it isn't even dead yet. It just needs someone to push the movement, and I don't mean dipset.

So I don't see what's so contradictory about all this, because it all makes perfect sense to me.

bangin post.....

one question i would ask you is however, do you agree with the south  being the ones who are killing hiphop?..........

[Meho]

the album title is genius mang....which ever point of view your coming with....y'all make valid points.......

fact is hiphopis dead title....its gon get people talking....so its promotion....but at the same time nigga rasing some real deep and truth issues right now that be affecting rap....as at the moment the state of hiphop is terrible......"aint good" just dont cut it....but u see when people speak of hiphop dying.....then they may raise nas in the coversation because he named his album that....so its both raising issues and word of mouf promotion for a nigga.....either way u put it....nas is a genius

nuff said

peace

Yep, that was my whole point. Nas is a genius for creating so much hype for his cd and everybodys still talking about it.

[Elevz]

I was talking about Nas flip floping before. Just check his interviews from September ahead. One interview hes saying hip hop is alive, next interview hip hop is dead. One interview he say South is responsible for "death", next interview he gives props.

Nas is known for his bipolar charcter.

I'm not convinced yet. Looking at it from Nas' "Hip Hop Is Dead" perspective:
- The south is making money. That's real, and Nas respects that.
- At the same time, the south is creatively killing Hip-Hop.
- Hip-Hop is dead (sick, in a state of emergency, any way you might want to put it)
- Hip-Hop can easily be resurrected. In fact, it isn't even dead yet. It just needs someone to push the movement, and I don't mean dipset.

So I don't see what's so contradictory about all this, because it all makes perfect sense to me.

bangin post.....

one question i would ask you is however, do you agree with the south  being the ones who are killing hiphop?..........

I can't even personally reflect on that one, because I never liked southern hiphop at all. The only music from the south I like is OutKast. That's just a matter of taste though.

But is the south killing it? I don't think so. All these developments seem logical to me; it has been obvious for an extremely long time (I'm talking decades) that music would become more generic and bassy. We could have seen this coming from a long distance. The question is, what's really the problem... I believe the problem actually lies with those who make borderline hiphop. R&B stars like Ciara and Kelis, watering the music down and still labelling it as hiphop. They influence the original hiphop artists, and there you have it. The blueprint for bullshit rap music. And there's no denying the south is right up front when it comes to selling hiphop out, but everybody's doing it these days. I don't even want to know what 50 Cent's next album might sound like.

[jeromechickenbone]

I think Nas was on point.  GRODT was def somethin special.  Just a huge album any way you slice it.  And you had every motherfucker in the game trying to copy that blueprint to the T.  Everybody tried to cash in on those sales.  But what really happened is mainstream Hip Hop became EXTREMELY corny, uninspired, formulaic, etc.  When 50 dropped GRODT, it was fresh.  When everybody else in the game tried to mimic that formula, it was played out.  When 50 tried to do it again with The Massacre, it was extremely played out and predictable.  The problem is all these stupid motherfuckers don't realize how played out that shit is and keep trying to force it down everybody's throats.  If these fuckers would just be themselves instead of copying what the next man is doing, they might actually push some units again.

Nas is a loser

Nas has more classic albums than anybody in your sig has classic songs.  People like Cam exist because of people like Nas.

All this bullshit about hip hop being dead is getting on my nerves.It's not dead.People are just saying it is cause they wanna look cool, I don't know.It's like a fad.

In the end its obvious this was a promotional "stunt" from Nas. Hes a smart dude.

In the end it's obvious that you know dick about Hip Hop.  Promotional stunts are nothing but hype - there's no meaning behind them, not even necessarily truth.  Just some shit to get your name in the paper.  Nas' album title absolutely caused controversy, but he truly meant everything he's said.  It's too bad that your feeble mind has been conditioned by the current mainstream no talent fucks to think that everything is purely done for promotional reasons rather than speaking from your heart.  You take an L again.

50 hates on NAS every chance he gets, why is NAS givin him props?

Because he's not some blind hating bitch like 50.  If something's dope, he says so.  There's lots of pussies hangin around dubcc that should take notes.

Oh please. And you know that Nas put all his heart into it how exactly ? What are you a part of his close friends or what ? Theyve caught Nas so many times in the past few months flip flopping about wheter hip hop is alive or dead, once sucking Souths dick and once not. He knew all the  "fuck-commercial-rappers-im-proud-to-listen-to-backpackers" fans would bite right into it. And they did.

Stop acting like you got all the inside info on whos real and whos not. Fact is Nas changed his mind so many times in the past few months that its getting funny.

Please provide some specific interview quotes of Nas flip flopping.  IF you can find some, I guarantee it's within the context that he and the interviewer are discussing and not on some "Oh I completely disagree with what I said a month ago, Hip Hop is really alive.  I misspoke.  Hip Hop is better than it ever has been".  I know you want it to be that way, but it's not.  So dig me up some examples and prove me wrong.

Do I know Nas?  Nope.  But if you've been paying attention to him for the last 6 years, you'd completely understand why I believe he's actually being genuine with his Hip Hop is Dead statement.  When Stillmatic dropped Nas fuckin rose from the dead.  I Am was a big disappointment overall, and Nastradamus was even fucking worse.  

Do you remember Owe Me Back?  Oochie Wally?  (my bad, you prolly thought those were Nas' best joints) Nas was on some REAL bullshit.  EVERYBODY thought he was finished.  He's was uninspired, superficial / materialistic, just comin real soft.  Then Stillmatic dropped and he began atoning for his mistakes.  Then God's Son, then Streets Disciple, and now HHID.  Did you listen to Streets Disciple or just breeze through it once you realized that it was devoid of Scott Storch and Timbaland?  Nas had been stating his feelings on the rap game for a long time now.  But it mostly went over everybodies head.  So now he's like kickin down the door and laying claim to some shit.  And now he finally got motherfuckers attention.  

[Nasty Nem]

nas just talks shit when asked to explain what he meant by hip hop is dead, his album didn't help too much

people have been saying hip hop is dead for years

when gangsta rap took over

when puffy held the game down

when nelly went multi-plat

it's not a new theory, nas just used it as a selling tool

[Tanjential]

I think when considering the lyrics to the first 3 songs on HHID, Unforgettable and Hope it is ridiculous to say the title was just or even mostly a marketing tool. was it a marketing tool? yeah, but the art completely supports and validates it.

-T

[Meho]

I think Nas was on point.  GRODT was def somethin special.  Just a huge album any way you slice it.  And you had every motherfucker in the game trying to copy that blueprint to the T.  Everybody tried to cash in on those sales.  But what really happened is mainstream Hip Hop became EXTREMELY corny, uninspired, formulaic, etc.  When 50 dropped GRODT, it was fresh.  When everybody else in the game tried to mimic that formula, it was played out.  When 50 tried to do it again with The Massacre, it was extremely played out and predictable.  The problem is all these stupid motherfuckers don't realize how played out that shit is and keep trying to force it down everybody's throats.  If these fuckers would just be themselves instead of copying what the next man is doing, they might actually push some units again.

Nas is a loser

Nas has more classic albums than anybody in your sig has classic songs.  People like Cam exist because of people like Nas.

All this bullshit about hip hop being dead is getting on my nerves.It's not dead.People are just saying it is cause they wanna look cool, I don't know.It's like a fad.

In the end its obvious this was a promotional "stunt" from Nas. Hes a smart dude.

In the end it's obvious that you know dick about Hip Hop.  Promotional stunts are nothing but hype - there's no meaning behind them, not even necessarily truth.  Just some shit to get your name in the paper.  Nas' album title absolutely caused controversy, but he truly meant everything he's said.  It's too bad that your feeble mind has been conditioned by the current mainstream no talent fucks to think that everything is purely done for promotional reasons rather than speaking from your heart.  You take an L again.

50 hates on NAS every chance he gets, why is NAS givin him props?

Because he's not some blind hating bitch like 50.  If something's dope, he says so.  There's lots of pussies hangin around dubcc that should take notes.

Oh please. And you know that Nas put all his heart into it how exactly ? What are you a part of his close friends or what ? Theyve caught Nas so many times in the past few months flip flopping about wheter hip hop is alive or dead, once sucking Souths dick and once not. He knew all the  "fuck-commercial-rappers-im-proud-to-listen-to-backpackers" fans would bite right into it. And they did.

Stop acting like you got all the inside info on whos real and whos not. Fact is Nas changed his mind so many times in the past few months that its getting funny.

Please provide some specific interview quotes of Nas flip flopping.  IF you can find some, I guarantee it's within the context that he and the interviewer are discussing and not on some "Oh I completely disagree with what I said a month ago, Hip Hop is really alive.  I misspoke.  Hip Hop is better than it ever has been".  I know you want it to be that way, but it's not.  So dig me up some examples and prove me wrong.

Do I know Nas?  Nope.  But if you've been paying attention to him for the last 6 years, you'd completely understand why I believe he's actually being genuine with his Hip Hop is Dead statement.  When Stillmatic dropped Nas fuckin rose from the dead.  I Am was a big disappointment overall, and Nastradamus was even fucking worse.  

Do you remember Owe Me Back?  Oochie Wally?  (my bad, you prolly thought those were Nas' best joints) Nas was on some REAL bullshit.  EVERYBODY thought he was finished.  He's was uninspired, superficial / materialistic, just comin real soft.  Then Stillmatic dropped and he began atoning for his mistakes.  Then God's Son, then Streets Disciple, and now HHID.  Did you listen to Streets Disciple or just breeze through it once you realized that it was devoid of Scott Storch and Timbaland?  Nas had been stating his feelings on the rap game for a long time now.  But it mostly went over everybodies head.  So now he's like kickin down the door and laying claim to some shit.  And now he finally got motherfuckers attention.  

Nas had 100 interviews in the past 6 months. I posted most of them here and you can seacrh sites like allhiphop, forumula...

And I am a fan of Nas. "I Am" is my fav Nas cd, with Nas Is Like being my fav Nas joint, one of the best from hip hop. Didnt like Streetd Desciple that much, too many filler tracks. Hip Hop Is Dead >> Stret Desciple

[Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement]

Nas been hangin around with Game too much.

GRODT was a great album in my oppinion, but not the most recent.  Sound of Revenge is a great one that came out not too long ago.

[Tanjential]

Nas been hangin around with Game too much.

GRODT was a great album in my oppinion, but not the most recent.  Sound of Revenge is a great one that came out not too long ago.

just my opinion based on the little chamill i've heard, he's talented but needs more time in the oven if you know what I mean. I'm more impressed with his imitations of other mcs on mixtapes then I am with his style and someone as talented as him should have a better personal distinctive style. but i've only heard about 5 tracks of his...but i've developed that thought opinion with each of the tracks I've heard.

-T