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Quote from: Timbo the king on March 19, 2007, 03:34:06 AMQuote from: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on March 19, 2007, 01:33:56 AMYea TES is my favorite Em album.. too me he came more serious on this album compared to his previous 2 and he seemed to have more emotion on this album.Same here. On Re-Up he was dope again, well at least way better than on Encore, his flow is still wierd though.Eminem Show was probably his best, when he was in his prime, but MMLP was dope too.I thought his flow was wierd on only a couple of tracks on the Re-Up, his verses were still pretty much flawless. I'll admit that Em did kinda fall of once Encore came out, but once I heard dude's verse on that Obie album, I knew he was back.I still will count Em as one of the top 5 rappers in the game right now.
Quote from: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on March 19, 2007, 01:33:56 AMYea TES is my favorite Em album.. too me he came more serious on this album compared to his previous 2 and he seemed to have more emotion on this album.Same here. On Re-Up he was dope again, well at least way better than on Encore, his flow is still wierd though.
Yea TES is my favorite Em album.. too me he came more serious on this album compared to his previous 2 and he seemed to have more emotion on this album.
Really. the eminem show was when i stopped being a fan. He was a beast on SSLP and MMLP.
Em had it on lock from 99-02, TES was a very dope album
like some other playa said, eminem show was about the time i stopped checkin on eminem, i lost interest in him after i heard that album, i respect he ripped some of the joints to threads but i do not believe it was that good....i think eminem was on some award show wannabe artist around that time, completely different to the eminem on sslp, mmlp, 2001....it did show maturity but i just do not like the album...to much played out shit to me on that album....and the point was proven on encore when he continued with his played out topics and his album was wack......im black and i use to like eminem, i aint gon lie, but like nuff niggaz, alot of eminems presence in hood was lost with the release of eminem show, true story...and the shit on re-up is nuttin better than decent, there is some nice spits no doubt, but he aint nowehere near the artist he was on re-up
The Eminem Show is when I really stopped listening to Eminem like that. SSLP and MMLP was fresh to me, after that it just got repetitive...He still makes my Top 15 all time.
that was right before I checked out of the hip hop building....can someone hook up the disses being discussed?-T
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on March 19, 2007, 05:36:02 PMlike some other playa said, eminem show was about the time i stopped checkin on eminem, i lost interest in him after i heard that album, i respect he ripped some of the joints to threads but i do not believe it was that good....i think eminem was on some award show wannabe artist around that time, completely different to the eminem on sslp, mmlp, 2001....it did show maturity but i just do not like the album...to much played out shit to me on that album....and the point was proven on encore when he continued with his played out topics and his album was wack......im black and i use to like eminem, i aint gon lie, but like nuff niggaz, alot of eminems presence in hood was lost with the release of eminem show, true story...and the shit on re-up is nuttin better than decent, there is some nice spits no doubt, but he aint nowehere near the artist he was on re-upI don't care much for hood presense to begin with and I know that Em Show felt more like a rock record at times and that it wouldn't sit as well with the streets as his previous two. I remember downloading it before it hit the stores and playing it for all the steet types in the local projects. Only the odd few we're feeling tracks like White America or Say Goodbye to Hollywood, and their opinions quickly changed after the general consensus came in as "okay but not great". I remember not understanding why they didn't get it, the same way they didnt get it when I played them Nirvana's Nevermind or Springsteen's Born To Run. These records were magic but the "streets" wouldn't let them accept that. I also remember playing 5 to 1 by the Doors and how most said it was shit. It wasn't so shit when Jay Z rapped over the instrumentsl in Takeover. You simply can't penetrate the ignorance of the "streets" when you have thugs in groups. They're always worried about their image. Ask a group of thugs what they think about women's rights or a woman's place in society. You'll get a different answer if you ask one when he's alone. Eminem Show was just too "white" and he was getting too serious for it to be a masterpiece. White guys in the hood are like black guys in the suburbs; they can be funny or possess crazy talent but when they get too artistic they don't get the praise they should. Black comedys can be put out time and again but serious black dramas that don't suck or push stupid messages before film quality are few and far between. And white slap stick comedians or action stars can get recognized in the hood but you'll be hard pressed to find a Lawrence Olivier film over an Arnie or Jim Carry film in the ghetto. You take any black guy from the hood who is a self proclaimed music lover and force Dylan, The Beatles, Zeppelin, Springsteen, Sabbath, GnR, and Nirvana to the point where he understand each of them and his appreciation of The Eminem Show will grow immensely.Anyway I loved the Eminem Show. I don't think it's anywhere close to the level of a Born To Run but it's his best record record in my opinion, I liked the flows, the lyrics, and even the productions better on that than on any of his other albums. I think MMLP had better stand out tracks, and SSLP was funnier but as a whole back to front I preffered Em Show. I don't think it needed more Dre. Some of his best tracks where Dre-free and most of his first album had no Dre. I'd like to see him do Jack White produced album. That would be nuts.
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