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Dre has refused to work with M.J. in the past and dissed him, it won't be him.....Rakim or ice cube....
 

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anyone know why dre won't fuck with MJ? where's trauma when you need 'im....

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I don't know, but maybe that's the big surprise: how Dre and MJ did get to work together in the end, or something ;)
 

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the doors with jim

i got a dollar on that!


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i know it's been done before, but that'd be dope if him and trent reznor worked together again


btw what was the song that they worked on together again?


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i don't think dre ever worked with trent reznor.

ha, the doors would be the SHIT with dre

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Beatles?
 

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i've read dre say he is a beatles fan and you can tell based on his sensibility for pop. would be dope

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Yeah Dre and Rezner worked together, i think the song was called "Even Deeper"

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they shoulda asked em why him and his crew tried to capatilize off proof's death sellin tshirts for money for his family

his boys are millionaires and they can't take care of his fam?  they gotta sell shirts?
 

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is this reznor song available on the internet?

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Yeah Dre and Rezner worked together, i think the song was called "Even Deeper"

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Has this story been verified?

like i said it was on D12 World. it would make sense for Eminem to be on the radio a year on from Proof passing.
 

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Shady/Aftermath really steppin it up again... good news, hope its true
 

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I would love to hear Dre re-vamp an Eazy verse but Dre doesn't work with dead artists. At least I believe he's said that a few times.

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I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.
 

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Can't wait to hear what Em's got cookin. I'm still not excited about Detox anymore though :-[
 

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Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.
 

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I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.

However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?
 

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Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.

True, I lost my faith in Crook a while ago though lol. Can't disagree with being open to quality music.

I thought the Re-Up was a step in best direction for Em. I like that you mentioned Jimmy Crack Corn and No Apologies because they are both great songs, but so different. He really had some great lines on this album, which he didn't do on the Encore. His voice still sounded a bit strange, especially on the 2nd track, but  don't mind it as much as long as he's not talking stupid shit. Jimmy Crack Corn was kinda silly, but Em was flipping some serious verbal gymnastics on that. His flow is nuts, and I'm hoping he uses that formula on the next album, instead of making a super silly record again.
 

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I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.

However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?


Dr. Dre set the standards for new (popular, mainstream as well as underground) music with the release of his first 2 albums. Back in '92 he introduced G-Funk to the world, which brought a whole new sound to hiphop (listen to some 80's records for example and notice the difference) and got mad spins on the radio, many producers and rappers based their style on that whole gangstarap genre over G-Funk beats.

In 1999 with the release of Dre's 2001, he made a new sound, which got heavily used by many other cats as well (for example listen to Southern records around 2000) got developped by others, but Dre did set the standard for a lot of new, fresh material back in 1999. As far as rappin' goes with Dre, since most of his lyrics is ghostwritten anyways, it wasn't anything new.

What i see nowadays is a game which is stagnated, it doesn't move on anymore but sticks to same old scripts and formula's, just to get money. Nobody is darin' to take any risk of making something new, and those who do get no exposure at all. My hopes are aimed at Dre, maybe he can come up with anything new and fresh that at least gets some others to make something new too (wether it's based on Dre's album or not, i don't care, anything better then right now).

And with Dre using a orchestra for makin' beats for Detox and his possible storyline on his album, with everyone playing a sort of role, just like a movie, it at least has some potential to be new and fresh you know. But then again, we're talkin' about Dre who flips the script for his album so many times i wouldn't be surprised if nothing from what i said above comes true. But you have to admit that this concept for an album is different then the most of the game is doin' right now, so at least it gives us some hope for change.




Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.

True, I lost my faith in Crook a while ago though lol. Can't disagree with being open to quality music.

I thought the Re-Up was a step in best direction for Em. I like that you mentioned Jimmy Crack Corn and No Apologies because they are both great songs, but so different. He really had some great lines on this album, which he didn't do on the Encore. His voice still sounded a bit strange, especially on the 2nd track, but  don't mind it as much as long as he's not talking stupid shit. Jimmy Crack Corn was kinda silly, but Em was flipping some serious verbal gymnastics on that. His flow is nuts, and I'm hoping he uses that formula on the next album, instead of making a super silly record again.


Real talk, but i hope he does something unexpected, like doin' another style which nobody has ever heard, something that will make all the haters secretly order his album, you know.  :D
 

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Maybe it's 2pac's first appearance after faking his death in 96'.

no.. in all seriousness, I think it's probably going to be a non-rap artist.  Someone like Micheal Jackson or Stevie Wonder, or Whitney Houston, something like that.
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"I will make records as big or bigger than Death Row".   -Dre, Source 1996

"I didn't do nothing but make people money and I didn't leave nobody high and dry.  Any album (on death row) people are going to check for.  But it's time for Dre to worry about Dre.  I'm focused on the new Snoop Doggs, not like that but you know what I mean."

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Dr. Dre set the standards for new (popular, mainstream as well as underground) music with the release of his first 2 albums. Back in '92 he introduced G-Funk to the world, which brought a whole new sound to hiphop (listen to some 80's records for example and notice the difference) and got mad spins on the radio, many producers and rappers based their style on that whole gangstarap genre over G-Funk beats.

It's debatable whether he invented that or not. I must admit personally I know too little of G-Funk to tell, but I heard how a similar style of G-Funk had been around in the late 80s and how Dre twisted it to make it his own. Nothing groundbreaking at all, just a really good twist for commercialising the music.

In 1999 with the release of Dre's 2001, he made a new sound, which got heavily used by many other cats as well (for example listen to Southern records around 2000) got developped by others, but Dre did set the standard for a lot of new, fresh material back in 1999. As far as rappin' goes with Dre, since most of his lyrics is ghostwritten anyways, it wasn't anything new.

The fact that all of his lyrics after EVIL4ZAGGIN have been ghost written has little to do with the question whether they're innovative or not, but I assume that means you never meant to say you were expecting innovative lyrics from Dre after all, or were you?

What i see nowadays is a game which is stagnated, it doesn't move on anymore but sticks to same old scripts and formula's, just to get money. Nobody is darin' to take any risk of making something new, and those who do get no exposure at all. My hopes are aimed at Dre, maybe he can come up with anything new and fresh that at least gets some others to make something new too (wether it's based on Dre's album or not, i don't care, anything better then right now).

Damn well Dre won't stick his head out for his old school fans, only to find it chopped off by the masses. Let's not forget, the "state of hip-hop" doesn't stand alone; there's a bigger picture to be found. Popular art is rather uninspiring now. It's not so much about the innovative artists not getting the exposure they deserve; they simply don't appeal to the people. You can cry all day about how uninspiring hip-hop is now, but as long as that's the music the target groups want, nothing'll change. I don't know why people expect Dre to be coming with something completely different, when he has proved throughout time that he's constantly adapting to the current state of the business.

That means, Dre too knows people don't care about albums anymore. Why would he drop a cinematic album, when people just want a wild song? That surely does please us, the retro-minded avid hip-hop fans, but the market doesn't work that way anymore.
 

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Maybe it's 2pac's first appearance after faking his death in 96'.



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The fact that all of his lyrics after EVIL4ZAGGIN have been ghost written has little to do with the question whether they're innovative or not, but I assume that means you never meant to say you were expecting innovative lyrics from Dre after all, or were you?

wait he wrote on EFIL4ZAGGIN? i thought ren or somebody wrote his shit on that for him.



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