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Quote from: DJ Coma on May 08, 2007, 03:35:05 PMQuote from: EFFeX on May 08, 2007, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on May 08, 2007, 01:04:46 PMI sense sarcasm. I'm simply trying to point out that it's not going to help. Sure it will leak eventually, everything does. But why leak it on the day you got it in the mail? Wait awhile at least or something.FTP just eatin' off Kurupt's throw away music and other music that they had nothing to do with creating... if people are cheating them who cares, they cheating artists.They're not cheating the artists. If they were then the artists would be suing which I don't see a god damn one of them doing. That is because they legally can't. A lot of the FTP releases are actually being put out with the help of the artist and the artist getting all profits. All the artist has to do is pay for the pressing and the website design. It's not like these albums were EVER going to see the light of day until FTP got involved.LOL, give me a break man, quit fuckin crying about shit getting leaked and downloaded, thats the music biz man, deal with it, because there is no stopping it. Don't want it downloaded so much? Don't charge so much for it. If these albums were NEVER going to see the light of day anyways, then whats the problem with people downloading it? The way I see it, thats just bonus money for the ones that do get sold. If the albums were NEVER going to get released in the first place, then that means the albums were NEVER going to make any money, which means they lose absolutely nothing when they get downloaded. Correct me if I'm wrong on that point. You might say you have the cd pressing costs...fuck it, don't press any, just put up links for download. Website design costs? Shit, who gives a damn about the website, make it simple text w/ a download link, I"m sure that would please everyone.Quit trying to act like this website is doing this huge favor for the fans. Like I said, if they were doing a huge favor for the fans, they would put it all up for download for FREE, since it was NEVER going to see the light of day anyways. The people involved are in it for money. They got it, its of absolutely no good to them just sitting there never released, and they know eventually someone else will try to make some money off it, so they are just getting to that first. And thats fine, there is nothing wrong with that. Whats wrong is acting like its all for the fans and they are doing a huge favor for the fans, because that is bullshit. This shit wouldn't cost 3x the price of a normal album if it was all for the fans.If these artists want to sell albums, then they need to make a good product. I've downloaded everything kurupts been involved in in the past 4 years and haven't bought any of it. Its not like I"m ripping him off. The music is GARBAGE. If I would have bought it, I would have been the one who got ripped off. I listen to his shit 2-3 times max. Sometimes I can't even make it all the way through the album one time. What are they charging for this album? something like $30. Fuck that, ain't no way thats worth it.These rappers and companies involved do bad business, thats the bottom line. You get what you pay for and vice versa. Smart people don't want to spend their hard earned money on worthless garbage. Kurupt has been half assing his way through the music seen for over the past 5 years. He, as a rapper has a trade just like a plumber, mechanic, contractor, lawyer, dentist, etc. Are you going to be satisfied spending $120 an hour on a plumber that half ass fixes your plumbing problem? I sure as hell am not. So why would I be satisfied paying triple the price of some half ass put product.
Quote from: EFFeX on May 08, 2007, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on May 08, 2007, 01:04:46 PMI sense sarcasm. I'm simply trying to point out that it's not going to help. Sure it will leak eventually, everything does. But why leak it on the day you got it in the mail? Wait awhile at least or something.FTP just eatin' off Kurupt's throw away music and other music that they had nothing to do with creating... if people are cheating them who cares, they cheating artists.They're not cheating the artists. If they were then the artists would be suing which I don't see a god damn one of them doing. That is because they legally can't. A lot of the FTP releases are actually being put out with the help of the artist and the artist getting all profits. All the artist has to do is pay for the pressing and the website design. It's not like these albums were EVER going to see the light of day until FTP got involved.
Quote from: DJ Coma on May 08, 2007, 01:04:46 PMI sense sarcasm. I'm simply trying to point out that it's not going to help. Sure it will leak eventually, everything does. But why leak it on the day you got it in the mail? Wait awhile at least or something.FTP just eatin' off Kurupt's throw away music and other music that they had nothing to do with creating... if people are cheating them who cares, they cheating artists.
I sense sarcasm. I'm simply trying to point out that it's not going to help. Sure it will leak eventually, everything does. But why leak it on the day you got it in the mail? Wait awhile at least or something.
E.P. Is SICK!!!
Quote from: acgrundy on May 08, 2007, 04:25:29 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on May 08, 2007, 03:35:05 PMQuote from: EFFeX on May 08, 2007, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on May 08, 2007, 01:04:46 PMI sense sarcasm. I'm simply trying to point out that it's not going to help. Sure it will leak eventually, everything does. But why leak it on the day you got it in the mail? Wait awhile at least or something.FTP just eatin' off Kurupt's throw away music and other music that they had nothing to do with creating... if people are cheating them who cares, they cheating artists.They're not cheating the artists. If they were then the artists would be suing which I don't see a god damn one of them doing. That is because they legally can't. A lot of the FTP releases are actually being put out with the help of the artist and the artist getting all profits. All the artist has to do is pay for the pressing and the website design. It's not like these albums were EVER going to see the light of day until FTP got involved.LOL, give me a break man, quit fuckin crying about shit getting leaked and downloaded, thats the music biz man, deal with it, because there is no stopping it. Don't want it downloaded so much? Don't charge so much for it. If these albums were NEVER going to see the light of day anyways, then whats the problem with people downloading it? The way I see it, thats just bonus money for the ones that do get sold. If the albums were NEVER going to get released in the first place, then that means the albums were NEVER going to make any money, which means they lose absolutely nothing when they get downloaded. Correct me if I'm wrong on that point. You might say you have the cd pressing costs...fuck it, don't press any, just put up links for download. Website design costs? Shit, who gives a damn about the website, make it simple text w/ a download link, I"m sure that would please everyone.Quit trying to act like this website is doing this huge favor for the fans. Like I said, if they were doing a huge favor for the fans, they would put it all up for download for FREE, since it was NEVER going to see the light of day anyways. The people involved are in it for money. They got it, its of absolutely no good to them just sitting there never released, and they know eventually someone else will try to make some money off it, so they are just getting to that first. And thats fine, there is nothing wrong with that. Whats wrong is acting like its all for the fans and they are doing a huge favor for the fans, because that is bullshit. This shit wouldn't cost 3x the price of a normal album if it was all for the fans.If these artists want to sell albums, then they need to make a good product. I've downloaded everything kurupts been involved in in the past 4 years and haven't bought any of it. Its not like I"m ripping him off. The music is GARBAGE. If I would have bought it, I would have been the one who got ripped off. I listen to his shit 2-3 times max. Sometimes I can't even make it all the way through the album one time. What are they charging for this album? something like $30. Fuck that, ain't no way thats worth it.These rappers and companies involved do bad business, thats the bottom line. You get what you pay for and vice versa. Smart people don't want to spend their hard earned money on worthless garbage. Kurupt has been half assing his way through the music seen for over the past 5 years. He, as a rapper has a trade just like a plumber, mechanic, contractor, lawyer, dentist, etc. Are you going to be satisfied spending $120 an hour on a plumber that half ass fixes your plumbing problem? I sure as hell am not. So why would I be satisfied paying triple the price of some half ass put product.You have valid points and I agree with most all of them. Sure, they're making money off of it. But in the case of albums like OFTB, Tha Realest, Top Dogg, etc, they are all getting the profit, not FTP. The ones who MADE the music, so it's basically like they're putting out an independent album. Yes it sucks they don't just leak the shit and put it up for download for free instead of selling it. I'll be the first to admit that I'd rather download it than buy it. But I can't be mad at them for making money. What if you were in their position? Would you just give away everything for free if you got yourself in a position to put in work to get a hold of the music and maybe even paid money for it yourself? If you say you would give it away free if you were them then you are full of shit my friend. All this is besides the point though.Main thing from my point of view is as I've already stated: if these albums keep getting leaked so god damn quickly, nobody will buy them. If nobody buys the albums, then they won't be releasing future albums. If they're not releasing future albums we won't get to hear all the music that they have to offer.Put all your opinions to the side, and look at what I just said in the last paragraph and you will see where I'm coming from. Like it or not that's the way it is and we can't change that. If you don't want to buy the albums, don't. That's fine because it will leak and you can download it. But is it so outrageous of me to say don't leak to people who didn't pay for it for at least a couple weeks after getting it so that we can keep getting future releases? I think not.
These rappers and companies involved do bad business, thats the bottom line. You get what you pay for and vice versa. Smart people don't want to spend their hard earned money on worthless garbage. Kurupt has been half assing his way through the music seen for over the past 5 years. He, as a rapper has a trade just like a plumber, mechanic, contractor, lawyer, dentist, etc. Are you going to be satisfied spending $120 an hour on a plumber that half ass fixes your plumbing problem? I sure as hell am not. So why would I be satisfied paying triple the price of some half ass put product.
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