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« Reply #225 on: September 11, 2008, 12:49:13 AM »
What does PM mean? You guys may have to help me with some of this internet shit. I ain't that good at it.

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« Reply #226 on: September 11, 2008, 01:57:25 PM »
What up fellas? This is Erotic D. My boy asked me to come on to this forum and chat with you guys a bit. Before i do, i'm going to have to ask that you guys respect my attempt to be accessible and understand that this is going to take time away from my work and family. I am reluctant to do this, but i have been following these two threads and i appreciate all of the love you guys have for me and Six2. I have NEVER been the type to front. So if you ask me a question that i can't or don't want to answer, i will not answer it. Also understand that there are people all over the world who have been reaching out to me on myspace and there have been no "internet gangsters" trying to start shit with me. I think that would be a waste of your time (if you are one of those guys) cus i'm a REAL street dude and it would be hard to piss me off on a computer. As some of you know by now, i have a new solo album available online. The outlets that will carry my product will multiply in the coming days and weeks. I have not been given the information about how long it will take to reach Amazon.com, iTunes, Rhapsody, emusic,etc. But it is DEFINITELY on the way through ALL online and traditional retailers. I have an R & B artist named VERSE whose album will follow mine. I can tell that some of you guys are only concerned with hip hop. That's cool. I used to be the same way. I produce ALL genres of music if the artist appeals to me. After Verse's album, I will be releasing Six2's album "AFFILIATED". There have been lots of questions about SOUTHERN HYDRO. I will also be tweaking that album and releasing it through E-WORLD ENTERTAINMENT. I have SEVERAL projects that will be released before the first of the year. AFFILIATED should be available within the next couple of weeks. It's done. I am a producer first and an artist cus i love writing. So if you like a project by Six2, or El Dog, or Big Mike, or M.C. Breed or any other artist that i produce more than you like mine, i will still be happy. By doing this, i want to show people that i am just like you. I'm a music lover!! But i will not respond to any over the top or disrespectful comments. I'm chasin millions and someones 2 cents is not worth losing focus on my hustle. Please don't think that i think anyone is going to act this way. I have had plenty of my "famous" friends tell me NOT to do this because they got into arguments with fans. I have to see for myself. I will try my best to answer all of your questions. I will check this thread several times a day and respond in my down time. There is plenty going on where Detox is concerned. But i can't share any information here. Please respect my position. My job is to produce records. Not report on Dr. Dre's business. Some questions may not be out of bounds. So by all means ask them all. But if i can't comment,i won't. By the way... M.C. Breed is ok and WILL live thru his illness. I will be producing alot of his new album as well. Six2 and i have a youtube channel. I havn't uploaded any video to it yet but it's coming. I can't find the address in my notes rite now but i will post it soon. It's active rite now under THE BLACK BRUCE WILLIS. There will be music videos and studio session footage and other things we do posted there. I know this is a long post. So i'm out for now. Please feel free to star asking questions if you like.

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Welcome and thank you for taking the time. It is very much appreciated.

Props on all the info. First and foremost great news on Breed.

I will be copping all the hip hop ish out of your camp. The new music has me amped and I am particularly looking forward to the six2 solos. I know you have a lot in the works but is there a Genacide project coming and any El Dog solo?

Just reflecting on some of your comments, I hope you find everyone on this board respectful and appreciative but at the same time honest. anyone who comes in here is a fan but they will share their disappointment if they are not feeling a particular track or whatever. that's part of this and i hope as a music fan as well as a musician you can appreciate that.

I will be copping the black bruce wiillis on amazon and am looking forward to hearing some of those tracks you have upped on myspace in CD quality - is the track list on cd baby correct?

also just a random question but have you recently worked or do you plan to work with UPTIGHT?

Thanks.  8)   
 

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« Reply #227 on: September 11, 2008, 03:25:02 PM »
i've just listen snippets from cdbaby and i have to tell u dat album is very good  8) 8)(and its impression just after listening  snippets)
im looking forward to listen whole album

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« Reply #228 on: September 11, 2008, 04:32:55 PM »
What up!!!!!  First of all...I appreciate all of the positive responses to my message. I am going to answer every question we have here so far. By the way. Saying that you are not feeling a song here and there is DEFINITELY NOT looked upon as disrespect from where i sit. No artist is capable is capable of satisfying the WHOLE world everytime they record something. If that were the case, we would be selling records in the BILLIONS and millions wouldn't mean shit(lol!!). So it's ok with me for you guys to disagree with my choice of songs. I am criticized with EVERY release LOOOONG before you guys get to hear it AND once you guys get it. It's been my life for nearly 25 years. The people who write my checks are the FIRST to criticize and they aren't always the easiest to please.Ichi i appreciate you taking the time to comment on the album dog! I have actually had 3 versions of this album done since 2000. The first one was TOTALLY raw. NO club tunes or any of that shit. Personally, i don't get in2 the club shit much myself. If i do, i HAVE to be able to keep a street edge with it. With my album being the 1st from my camp, i HAD to do something from a bizness standpoint to draw attention to me so it would benefit the ones coming after me. I actually have a plan to NOT try and get involved with performing club records and leaving it up 2 my artists. I like making concept records and that shit that make a nigga wanna BANG his head and snap his neck cus the beat is so hard!!! As for Uptite...We are all cool cus we have all known each other since the early 90's. But we haven't worked with him in a while. I have had the opportunity 2 have each of the artists from Deuce under my wing at one point or another. So i have nearly an albums worth of material on Uptite. Maybe we will release it some day. It's not a priority for me since Uptite does his own thing. I have a few HUNDRED songs on El Dog. He has never taken a break from working with me. Therefor we work at least 10 months out of the year since i own several recording facilities. We do have a solo album on El Dog called KILLA MUZIK. It's one of the many projects i will be releasing soon. IT'S DOPE AS FUCK!!!!! We are pulling together a new Genacide album now and i'm performing on it as well. We will NEVER allow DOC back into our circle. I brought Genacide into our camp and DOC mishandled that. I have the same friends in the industry as DOC and when i let him take the lead in 98, it was because he had a situation that should have made EVERYBODY rich and famous rite away. I was being a team player. But these guys were dope when i scooped them up. They never needed me OR DOC. They would've made it without us. Now we're family and this is the ONLY way we want to do it. Cadillac Seville is with us 2. Please pray for him. He is locked up until Halloween but we got him when he gets out.
 

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« Reply #229 on: September 12, 2008, 06:10:12 PM »
What up!!!!!  First of all...I appreciate all of the positive responses to my message. I am going to answer every question we have here so far. By the way. Saying that you are not feeling a song here and there is DEFINITELY NOT looked upon as disrespect from where i sit. No artist is capable is capable of satisfying the WHOLE world everytime they record something. If that were the case, we would be selling records in the BILLIONS and millions wouldn't mean shit(lol!!). So it's ok with me for you guys to disagree with my choice of songs. I am criticized with EVERY release LOOOONG before you guys get to hear it AND once you guys get it. It's been my life for nearly 25 years. The people who write my checks are the FIRST to criticize and they aren't always the easiest to please.Ichi i appreciate you taking the time to comment on the album dog! I have actually had 3 versions of this album done since 2000. The first one was TOTALLY raw. NO club tunes or any of that shit. Personally, i don't get in2 the club shit much myself. If i do, i HAVE to be able to keep a street edge with it. With my album being the 1st from my camp, i HAD to do something from a bizness standpoint to draw attention to me so it would benefit the ones coming after me. I actually have a plan to NOT try and get involved with performing club records and leaving it up 2 my artists. I like making concept records and that shit that make a nigga wanna BANG his head and snap his neck cus the beat is so hard!!! As for Uptite...We are all cool cus we have all known each other since the early 90's. But we haven't worked with him in a while. I have had the opportunity 2 have each of the artists from Deuce under my wing at one point or another. So i have nearly an albums worth of material on Uptite. Maybe we will release it some day. It's not a priority for me since Uptite does his own thing. I have a few HUNDRED songs on El Dog. He has never taken a break from working with me. Therefor we work at least 10 months out of the year since i own several recording facilities. We do have a solo album on El Dog called KILLA MUZIK. It's one of the many projects i will be releasing soon. IT'S DOPE AS FUCK!!!!! We are pulling together a new Genacide album now and i'm performing on it as well. We will NEVER allow DOC back into our circle. I brought Genacide into our camp and DOC mishandled that. I have the same friends in the industry as DOC and when i let him take the lead in 98, it was because he had a situation that should have made EVERYBODY rich and famous rite away. I was being a team player. But these guys were dope when i scooped them up. They never needed me OR DOC. They would've made it without us. Now we're family and this is the ONLY way we want to do it. Cadillac Seville is with us 2. Please pray for him. He is locked up until Halloween but we got him when he gets out.

e thanks for your thoughts and the update.
 
i'm wanna hear that el-dog and genacide ish!
 
i understand that things have gone down that we can't be privy to with doc. from a fan's perspective, it is really sad that things got f**ked up for everyone but particularly for six2 becuase as you said in your interview with Noncentz, two face has that commercial appeal that would have been an incredible fit for what aftermath were putting out in the late 90's early 00's. i am grateful for all the new ish and really hope that six2 and yourself can get at dre for this detox thing.
 
that's dope news on cadillac seville as chad said all the cats that was featured on deuce were dope as f**k.
 
i can understand the approach you are taking on your album and hope you get spins on the club tracks. if i am totally honest i can't see that happening. what you said about concept albums interested me particularly because the first two genacide albums had a really dark feel but also a slight political edge (particularly the first album). is there of that kind of stuff on their new music or is it more focussed on a "mentally disturbed" tip (i love that sh*t by the way)? i would love to hear a balance of that and tracks like ghetto blues that you did for six2. that was one of his best ever tracks in my opinion.
 
anyway thanks again for posting.
 
peace.   
 

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« Reply #230 on: September 12, 2008, 09:32:08 PM »
What up Lindon! The Genacide album has not taken on a specific direction yet. We have not deciced what that would be. Thank you for your positive support of all of our stuff. As for doubting whether or not i will get spins on my record, there are some things you should take into consideration. First...I started my career with N.W.A., D.O.C., Dre,etc. When those records blew, they had little to no airplay. It is not radio that i care about. It's spins in the clubs that get you hot. IMO radio makes people sick of your songs and why is there a need to buy if you can hear it 2 or 3 times an hour. Look at radio spins versus record sales these days. It's not even close. Not to say that radio is a non-factor. But the streets have and always will be the best way to sell your music. BUT.....getting airplay for a veteran in the music game is easier than you think. My relationships in the industry alone is enough to get a shot at radio. You hire the right record promoter and ANYONE can get airplay dog. The question for me is would it be worth the money! I don't want to spend money on spins and NOT sell any records. So i start in the streets and go from there. Back to Six2 and El Dog. Ghetto Blues IS a great song and we have MANY more in that vein. Six2 has had alot of hardships in his life and he writes about it regularly. AFFILIATED will give you more of that flavor and so will some of the Genacide songs. I like to think that we always maintain a good balance in our track selection on every project. El Dog's album has BEEN done for quite a while. We have the same struggle with his as we had with mine. TOO MUCH MATERIAL!!!!! Me and Dog work wayyyy more than everyone else in the camp. We also have enough songs together to release an Erotic & El Dog album and have considered it.
 

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« Reply #231 on: September 13, 2008, 11:58:56 AM »
Hey Erotic-D!
Cool of you to join the forum!!
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« Reply #232 on: September 15, 2008, 06:24:15 PM »
new six2 songs on his myspace
 

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« Reply #233 on: September 17, 2008, 12:25:38 PM »
What up Lindon! The Genacide album has not taken on a specific direction yet. We have not deciced what that would be. Thank you for your positive support of all of our stuff. As for doubting whether or not i will get spins on my record, there are some things you should take into consideration. First...I started my career with N.W.A., D.O.C., Dre,etc. When those records blew, they had little to no airplay. It is not radio that i care about. It's spins in the clubs that get you hot. IMO radio makes people sick of your songs and why is there a need to buy if you can hear it 2 or 3 times an hour. Look at radio spins versus record sales these days. It's not even close. Not to say that radio is a non-factor. But the streets have and always will be the best way to sell your music. BUT.....getting airplay for a veteran in the music game is easier than you think. My relationships in the industry alone is enough to get a shot at radio. You hire the right record promoter and ANYONE can get airplay dog. The question for me is would it be worth the money! I don't want to spend money on spins and NOT sell any records. So i start in the streets and go from there. Back to Six2 and El Dog. Ghetto Blues IS a great song and we have MANY more in that vein. Six2 has had alot of hardships in his life and he writes about it regularly. AFFILIATED will give you more of that flavor and so will some of the Genacide songs. I like to think that we always maintain a good balance in our track selection on every project. El Dog's album has BEEN done for quite a while. We have the same struggle with his as we had with mine. TOO MUCH MATERIAL!!!!! Me and Dog work wayyyy more than everyone else in the camp. We also have enough songs together to release an Erotic & El Dog album and have considered it.

Dope sh*t Erotic. Thanks man.

I respect what you're saying the street up approach. That has to be the way for real music to make noise and sell in the current environment. I guess as you say that's always been true but is probably even more so now. I wish you and the whole camp a lot of luck with yours and each of the projects.

Looking forward to hearing more of that six2 reflective ish. I can't think of a rapper who is as dope a story teller in the rap game today.

I am totally hyped for the el dog solo. for me his bars on the songs you have upped on your myspace recently are the dopest and he has that unique distinctive sound.

Much respect again to you for taking the time out to post up here and thank you for making that dope music. Looking forward to more updates on the fresh projects coming from your camp.  8)

Peace.

new six2 songs on his myspace

dopeness thanks for the update.
 

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« Reply #234 on: September 18, 2008, 02:34:21 AM »
Wow, cool to see Erotic D here!

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« Reply #235 on: September 19, 2008, 01:00:57 AM »
What up!!!!!  First of all...I appreciate all of the positive responses to my message. I am going to answer every question we have here so far. By the way. Saying that you are not feeling a song here and there is DEFINITELY NOT looked upon as disrespect from where i sit. No artist is capable is capable of satisfying the WHOLE world everytime they record something. If that were the case, we would be selling records in the BILLIONS and millions wouldn't mean shit(lol!!). So it's ok with me for you guys to disagree with my choice of songs. I am criticized with EVERY release LOOOONG before you guys get to hear it AND once you guys get it. It's been my life for nearly 25 years. The people who write my checks are the FIRST to criticize and they aren't always the easiest to please.Ichi i appreciate you taking the time to comment on the album dog! I have actually had 3 versions of this album done since 2000. The first one was TOTALLY raw. NO club tunes or any of that shit. Personally, i don't get in2 the club shit much myself. If i do, i HAVE to be able to keep a street edge with it. With my album being the 1st from my camp, i HAD to do something from a bizness standpoint to draw attention to me so it would benefit the ones coming after me. I actually have a plan to NOT try and get involved with performing club records and leaving it up 2 my artists. I like making concept records and that shit that make a nigga wanna BANG his head and snap his neck cus the beat is so hard!!! As for Uptite...We are all cool cus we have all known each other since the early 90's. But we haven't worked with him in a while. I have had the opportunity 2 have each of the artists from Deuce under my wing at one point or another. So i have nearly an albums worth of material on Uptite. Maybe we will release it some day. It's not a priority for me since Uptite does his own thing. I have a few HUNDRED songs on El Dog. He has never taken a break from working with me. Therefor we work at least 10 months out of the year since i own several recording facilities. We do have a solo album on El Dog called KILLA MUZIK. It's one of the many projects i will be releasing soon. IT'S DOPE AS FUCK!!!!! We are pulling together a new Genacide album now and i'm performing on it as well. We will NEVER allow DOC back into our circle. I brought Genacide into our camp and DOC mishandled that. I have the same friends in the industry as DOC and when i let him take the lead in 98, it was because he had a situation that should have made EVERYBODY rich and famous rite away. I was being a team player. But these guys were dope when i scooped them up. They never needed me OR DOC. They would've made it without us. Now we're family and this is the ONLY way we want to do it. Cadillac Seville is with us 2. Please pray for him. He is locked up until Halloween but we got him when he gets out.



i know money don't mean much to you, and you're doing all these projects out of love for music, but i figure you don't like to lose a lot of money on al those projects  ;)
so i wonder what you're striving for when it comes to the finances; are you trying to break-even or do you want that the album sales only cover a part of the costs?

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« Reply #236 on: September 19, 2008, 03:15:14 AM »
I will NEVER discuss money here. PLUS i have never been a part of a project that has lost money. I wonder why ANYONE would assume that i would lose money. Independent releases that are properly handled make WAY more money than you are obviously aware of. Even an album that is assumed to be a failure because it "only" sells 200,000 copies yields a profit for a major label. Imagine what that would do for an independent. We make money in other areas associated with our releases that no one really discusses. Consumers measure our success by record sales when, in fact, if success is measured in dollars, MANY artists are more "successful " than you think. Those that are broke are broke from mishandling their  business and i will never let that dictate the way i handle MY business. I thought about this question after you asked me on myspace and i have a question for YOU. Would you ask Puffy or Jay-Z or Dr. Dre etc if THEY plan to break even or lose money on multiple releases that they have planned? If we are going to be respectful of one another, i figure you would just enjoy the music and let ME worry about my finances. That's just like asking a woman about her weight. If i sound offended, it's because i think you may have hit the ONE nerve that could offend me. I know it wasn't intentional so i'm not trippin AT ALL. I just don't play to fail and i feel that was an inappropriate question bro. Thanks for the love Trentman!!!!! You 2 Lindon!!!!! PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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« Reply #237 on: September 19, 2008, 05:25:27 AM »
I will NEVER discuss money here. PLUS i have never been a part of a project that has lost money. I wonder why ANYONE would assume that i would lose money. Independent releases that are properly handled make WAY more money than you are obviously aware of. Even an album that is assumed to be a failure because it "only" sells 200,000 copies yields a profit for a major label. Imagine what that would do for an independent. We make money in other areas associated with our releases that no one really discusses. Consumers measure our success by record sales when, in fact, if success is measured in dollars, MANY artists are more "successful " than you think. Those that are broke are broke from mishandling their  business and i will never let that dictate the way i handle MY business. I thought about this question after you asked me on myspace and i have a question for YOU. Would you ask Puffy or Jay-Z or Dr. Dre etc if THEY plan to break even or lose money on multiple releases that they have planned? If we are going to be respectful of one another, i figure you would just enjoy the music and let ME worry about my finances. That's just like asking a woman about her weight. If i sound offended, it's because i think you may have hit the ONE nerve that could offend me. I know it wasn't intentional so i'm not trippin AT ALL. I just don't play to fail and i feel that was an inappropriate question bro. Thanks for the love Trentman!!!!! You 2 Lindon!!!!! PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hey, relax, i only made a general assumption  ;)
nobody wants to lose a lot of money right?

i didn't assume that you spent too much money by doing all those projects, i just stated that there's a possibility ;)
my bad if you got the wrong idea.

i won't deny that there are so many things i don't know about the independent music business; no wonder i asked such a question  ;)
but that wasn't a sign of distrust from my side.
but if you felt that i crossed a line, or that my question was a sign of lack of confidence, then i respect that and i won't bring up the subject any more  ;)

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« Reply #238 on: September 20, 2008, 09:56:38 AM »
so does any1 heard allbum yet?
i bought cd now just wainting for delivery

so waht i heard my favorite track is:
G-None Rilla feat Six-2 El Dog Sydney Bristow - its bomb


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« Reply #239 on: September 20, 2008, 10:39:02 AM »
so does any1 heard allbum yet?
i bought cd now just wainting for delivery

so waht i heard my favorite track is:
G-None Rilla feat Six-2 El Dog Sydney Bristow - its bomb



i'm still waiting for it to be available on amazon.com  :-\
but i've heard some of it, thanks to the preview opportunities  ;)

so based on that, i'd say my favourite track is Serial Killer  8)

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« Reply #240 on: September 22, 2008, 09:07:01 AM »
What up guys!!!! The album is definitely making it's way to all the outlets. Thanks for your purchase Ichi. You KNOW how deep my appreciation runs for everybody here Dre-Day. Here's a fun fact about G-NONE REALA. We did that as a Genacide "reunion" track and once it was finished, i had put it on El Dog's KILLA MUZIK album. Then SIX2 wanted it for HIS album. In the end, i decided that it needed to be heard on whichever release was first. Plus it was a great opportunity for me to have a song on my album that i just produced. I was supposed to put a 3rd verse on it and i just felt that it was perfect the way it was. I can't get enough of hearing how it turned out. Peace.
 

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« Reply #241 on: September 22, 2008, 09:56:49 AM »
What up guys!!!! The album is definitely making it's way to all the outlets. Thanks for your purchase Ichi. You KNOW how deep my appreciation runs for everybody here Dre-Day. Here's a fun fact about G-NONE REALA. We did that as a Genacide "reunion" track and once it was finished, i had put it on El Dog's KILLA MUZIK album. Then SIX2 wanted it for HIS album. In the end, i decided that it needed to be heard on whichever release was first. Plus it was a great opportunity for me to have a song on my album that i just produced. I was supposed to put a 3rd verse on it and i just felt that it was perfect the way it was. I can't get enough of hearing how it turned out. Peace.

no problem   :)

and thanks for the info   :)
i was surprised too, that G None Reala ended up on your debut album, but it makes sense now  ;)

by the way, i check for the album on amazon.com, everyday lol, no joke  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2008, 01:06:10 AM »

Well after reading Dre-Day´s and Erotic´s (short  :P) convo about sales,budget and what not....
I got inspired to repost some shit about the music industries future. Something I find interesting.
I can only speak for myself  ;).... but I used to purchase at least 20 albums a month,but now I maybe purchase that yearly  :-\ :-[....
Yes,internet killed the sales. So what now?


This little thing might move the convo on;
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Dollars and Sense: Second Edition (Friday June 13th, 2008)
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People like free, but will it translate into sales?
By Eric Engelwood

So I had my iTunes on shuffle trying to come up with something to write about when it dawned on me:
The West Coast is at the forefront of marketing in the music industry. iTunes played me Crooked I’s Hip-hop Weekly #19.
That track was followed up by Bishop Lamont’s City Lights, which was followed up by Problem’s I’m toe up remix.
The West Coast is putting out quality music for free, so how will artists make money?
Will this tactic of "free music" pan out or will we see another generation of angry West Coast rappers shunned by the industry?

Think about it for a second: Crooked I put out 52 weeks of free music. That’s nearly four albums worth of free music.
Bishop Lamont has put out three album quality mixtapes in a little over a year.
Artists regularly put fully mixed and mastered tracks on Dubcnn, Lyay.net and countless other media outlets for free.
This is a brand new way of marketing and it’s time for artists to take advantage of this new model. Welcome to music 2.0.

Artists are building grassroots fanbases , but are they utilizing them accordingly?
In order to succeed, touring, direct to fan sales, and other revenue streams should be examined.
For every artist that puts out a track for free, there should a plan to make money behind it.
Will that track get that gets the club jumping translate into touring money?
Can you license that song about your favorite booze to the booze company for a commercial?

For the New West artists reading this -
Imagine for a second that you NEVER made a cent from selling a physical CD or a track online.
How would you make money from your music?
If you can list three things off the top of your head then you’re in good shape.
If not, get brainstorming. Like I said in my last blog post: Throw some sh*t at a wall and see what sticks.
Think about different ways of monetizing your music in other ways than just selling tracks or CD’s.

The music industry is going through a sea change, but with the right angle the West Coast can come out ahead.
The sooner artists realize the way of making money in the music industry has changed,
the sooner they can come up with new ways to get their paper.




Well,the move Prince did was pretty genius;
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)
On June 28, 2007, the UK national newspaper The Mail on Sunday
revealed that it had made a deal to give Prince's new album, Planet Earth,
away for free with an "imminent" edition of the paper, making it the first place in the world to get the album.
The date chosen was July 15, 2007.
This move has sparked controversy among music distributors and has also led the UK arm of Prince's distributor, Sony BMG, to withdraw from distributing the album in UK stores.[31]
The UK's largest high street music retailer, HMV decided to stock the paper on release day due to the giveaway.


How about XXL and/or The Source do the same?
And let advertisers pay the bills. I'm sure advertisers would pay up.
The albums would get world wide distribution in news stands all over the world.




This could also be a option;

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In Rapper’s Deal, a New Model for Music Business
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/arts/music/03jayz.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1_r=1&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
By JEFF LEEDS Published: April 3, 2008


LOS ANGELES — In a move that reflects the anarchy sweeping the music business, the superstar rapper Jay-Z, who released his latest album to lukewarm sales five months ago, is on the verge of closing a deal with a concert promoter that rivals the biggest music contracts ever awarded.

Jay-Z plans to depart his longtime record label, Def Jam, for a roughly $150 million package with the concert giant Live Nation that includes financing for his own entertainment venture, in addition to recordings and tours for the next decade. The pact, expected to be finalized this week, is the most expansive deal yet from Live Nation, which has angled to compete directly with the industry’s established music labels in a scrum over the rights to distribute recordings, sell concert tickets, market merchandise and control other aspects of artists’ careers.

As CD sales plunge, an array of players — including record labels, promoters and advertisers — are racing to secure deals that cut them in on a larger share of an artist’s overall revenue. Live Nation has already struck less comprehensive pacts with Madonna and U2.

In Jay-Z, Live Nation has lined up with a longtime star who, after toiling as a self-described hustler on the streets of Brooklyn, earned acclaim as a rapper and cachet as a mogul.

Live Nation’s core business has revolved around major rock and country tours, and with Jay-Z it is making an unexpected foray into hip-hop. The company is also placing an enormous wager on a performer who, like many others, has experienced declining record sales. (Last year’s “American Gangster” sold one million copies in the United States; “The Black Album,” from 2003, sold well over three million.)

But the arrangement would also position Live Nation to participate in a range of new deals with Jay-Z, one of music’s most entrepreneurial stars, whose past ventures have included the Rocawear clothing line, which he sold last year for $204 million, and the chain of 40/40 nightclubs.

Jay-Z, 38, whose real name is Shawn Carter, owes one more studio album to Def Jam, where he was president for three years before stepping down in December after he and the label’s corporate parent, Universal Music Group, could not agree on a more lucrative contract.

His first undertaking with Live Nation is his current 28-date tour with Mary J. Blige, his biggest live outing in more than three years. After that, Live Nation envisions integrating the marketing of all Jay-Z’s entertainment endeavors, including recordings, tours and endorsements.

“I’ve turned into the Rolling Stones of hip-hop,” Jay-Z said in a recent telephone interview.

The deal answers a question that had been circling through the rap world for months: Where would Jay-Z take his next corporate role? As part of the arrangement, Live Nation would finance the start-up of a venture that would be an umbrella for his outside projects, which are expected to include his own label, music publishing, and talent consulting and managing. Live Nation is expected to contribute $5 million a year in overhead for five years, with another $25 million available to finance Jay-Z’s acquisitions or investments, according to people in the music industry briefed on the agreement. The venture, to be called Roc Nation, will split profits with Live Nation.

The overall package for Jay-Z also includes an upfront payment of $25 million, a general advance of $25 million that includes fees for his current tour, and advance payment of $10 million an album for a minimum of three albums during the deal’s 10-year term, these people said. A series of other payments adding up to about $20 million is included in exchange for certain publishing, licensing and other rights. Jay-Z said Live Nation’s consolidated approach was in sync with the emerging potential “to reach the consumer in so many different ways right now.” He added: “Everyone’s trying to figure it out. I want to be on the front lines in that fight.”

The popularity of music downloads has revolutionized how music is consumed, and widespread piracy has contributed to an industry meltdown in which traditional album sales — composed mostly of the two-decades-old CD format — have slumped by more than a third since 2000. (The best seller in 2007, Josh Groban’s “Noël,” sold 3.7 million copies, compared with 9.9 million for the top album in 2000, according to Nielsen SoundScan.)

That has further pressured record-label executives to rewrite the economics of their business and step beyond the sale of albums in an attempt to wring revenue out of everything from ring tones to artist fan clubs.

Jay-Z said that his future as an artist could involve elevating the role of live performances, long a mixed bag even for popular rap acts.

“In a way I want to operate like an indie band,” he said. “Play the music on tour instead of relying on radio. Hopefully we’ll get some hits out of there and radio will pick it up, but we won’t make it with that in mind.”

Though sales for Jay-Z’s tour with Ms. Blige have been strong since it began on March 22, with almost all the early dates resulting in sold-out arenas, it is unclear when Live Nation could carry out other aspects of the deal. (Jay-Z said that he hoped to deliver his final album for Def Jam later this year.)

Critics of Live Nation, which lost nearly $12 million last year, predict that it would be difficult to turn a profit on the arrangement, given the continuing decline in record sales and the mixed track record of artist-run ventures. Shares in the company have suffered since October when Live Nation negotiated a reported $120 million deal with Madonna.

Michael Cohl, Live Nation’s chairman, said he was not worried. Though he declined to discuss terms of the Jay-Z arrangement, he said it did not require an increase in record sales to be profitable. “He could be doing more tours and doing great,” Mr. Cohl said. “There could be endorsements and sponsorships.” He added, “The whole is what’s important.”

He cited Jay-Z’s forays into a host of other businesses as a model for Live Nation. “What he’s done has kind of mirrored what we want to do and where we think we’re going.”

Some executives at major record labels have privately portrayed Live Nation’s artist deals as overly expensive retirement packages for stars past their prime.

Others disagree. “I’d much rather be in the business of marketing a superstar who cost me a lot of money than taking the 1-in-10, demonstrably failing crapshoot” of signing unknown talents, said Jeffrey Light, a Los Angeles entertainment attorney, referring to the traditional record company model.

But the dimensions of the competition could change if Live Nation begins vying for the same emerging artists that the labels hope to sign. Live Nation is negotiating with a Georgia rock act, the Zac Brown Band, after apparently wooing it away from an offer by Atlantic Records, according to music executives briefed on the talks.

Jay-Z, for his part, suggested that the string of stars to exit the major-label system would also signal to younger acts how to plot their careers. He said that rising artists will be thinking: “ ‘Something must be happening. Madonna did it, she’s not slow. Jay-Z, he’s not slow either.’ ”
 

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« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2008, 01:30:43 AM »
yeah my question was something along the lines of what was written in the blog  ;)

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« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2008, 01:42:06 AM »
Props to erotic for posting up in here, just let you know you got fans all across the globe cuz even in New Zealand. Waiting on that six-two album!!
 

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« Reply #245 on: September 23, 2008, 09:16:21 AM »
Shout out to New Zealand!!!!! Thanks for the love. You guys have some pretty valid concerns about the state of the bizness. My main point to Dre-Day was that i won't discuss the financial aspects of my bizness. But the environment of the music biz is a different thing. We can discuss that all day. In fact, you guys MAY be able to turn me on to an idea that i haven't come up with. But be assured that there IS a plan. I can't sit around all day and be upset that someone has posted my ENTIRE album on youtube. All i can do is embrace the internet and forge relationships that make fans want to "properly" support our music. That will work for some while others continue to get it free. I wonder how some people who do this would feel if they got to work and the boss had trained a monkey to do their job. This monkey would only work for fruit and you would only get paid to come in when he is sick. That person would cry on the shoulders of ALL who would listen. I can't understand why people don't take OUR job just as serious. Believe it or not, i was VERY reluctant to get into the internet because i could see in its infancy that it was going to fuck up our world. In MANY ways it has. It has also made things easier in many ways. I won't deny that. I have complete confidence that if there is a way for E-WORLD ENTERTAINMENT to be successful without selling our souls, we have the talent to do it. It WILL take help from all of you here and other forums all over the world. Here's something else i will say. I don't have alot of love for our government. But THIS time i am counting on them to stick their noses where they don't belong and try and police the internet sometime in the near future. Let's be clear on this. This is not something that i hope for. This is something that i think the powers that be can't resist. This will put the power back in their hands and the music bizness will benefit from it. As a result, maybe even traditional retail outlets for music will enjoy a full recovery as well. Until then, i will forge alliances that make sense for me and my artists and our families. Fellas!! I need you guys to pray for me and my family. I have been fighting for my freedom on a probation violation charge. I go to court at 2 pm Texas time today. This is a hearing that should determine whether i get more probation or prison time. As i am enjoying my comeback to the music scene AND my 6 month old son, i would gladly sign for the probation. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. So i can complete ANY length of probation. I just made a bad move after i had already done 5 yrs on probation. So i face the consequences like a man. If they give me some time, my wife will log on here to tell you. If you guys don't see a new message from me by 5 pm Texas time, i was not blessed with my freedom. ALL of the projects i mentioned will still be released and promoted. PEACE!!!!!
 

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« Reply #246 on: September 23, 2008, 10:02:15 AM »
i hope so u get that probation ;D ;D
if not we will keep ur name alive until u will be back

keep u head up

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« Reply #247 on: September 23, 2008, 01:00:00 PM »
Shout out to New Zealand!!!!! Thanks for the love. You guys have some pretty valid concerns about the state of the bizness. My main point to Dre-Day was that i won't discuss the financial aspects of my bizness. But the environment of the music biz is a different thing. We can discuss that all day. In fact, you guys MAY be able to turn me on to an idea that i haven't come up with. But be assured that there IS a plan. I can't sit around all day and be upset that someone has posted my ENTIRE album on youtube. All i can do is embrace the internet and forge relationships that make fans want to "properly" support our music. That will work for some while others continue to get it free. I wonder how some people who do this would feel if they got to work and the boss had trained a monkey to do their job. This monkey would only work for fruit and you would only get paid to come in when he is sick. That person would cry on the shoulders of ALL who would listen. I can't understand why people don't take OUR job just as serious. Believe it or not, i was VERY reluctant to get into the internet because i could see in its infancy that it was going to fuck up our world. In MANY ways it has. It has also made things easier in many ways. I won't deny that. I have complete confidence that if there is a way for E-WORLD ENTERTAINMENT to be successful without selling our souls, we have the talent to do it. It WILL take help from all of you here and other forums all over the world. Here's something else i will say. I don't have alot of love for our government. But THIS time i am counting on them to stick their noses where they don't belong and try and police the internet sometime in the near future. Let's be clear on this. This is not something that i hope for. This is something that i think the powers that be can't resist. This will put the power back in their hands and the music bizness will benefit from it. As a result, maybe even traditional retail outlets for music will enjoy a full recovery as well. Until then, i will forge alliances that make sense for me and my artists and our families. Fellas!! I need you guys to pray for me and my family. I have been fighting for my freedom on a probation violation charge. I go to court at 2 pm Texas time today. This is a hearing that should determine whether i get more probation or prison time. As i am enjoying my comeback to the music scene AND my 6 month old son, i would gladly sign for the probation. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. So i can complete ANY length of probation. I just made a bad move after i had already done 5 yrs on probation. So i face the consequences like a man. If they give me some time, my wife will log on here to tell you. If you guys don't see a new message from me by 5 pm Texas time, i was not blessed with my freedom. ALL of the projects i mentioned will still be released and promoted. PEACE!!!!!

 :-\ i hope you don't go to jail, that would be fucked up :P
best of luck


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« Reply #248 on: September 24, 2008, 12:30:35 AM »
Fellas!! I need you guys to pray for me and my family. I have been fighting for my freedom on a probation violation charge. I go to court at 2 pm Texas time today. This is a hearing that should determine whether i get more probation or prison time. As i am enjoying my comeback to the music scene AND my 6 month old son, i would gladly sign for the probation. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. So i can complete ANY length of probation. I just made a bad move after i had already done 5 yrs on probation. So i face the consequences like a man. If they give me some time, my wife will log on here to tell you. If you guys don't see a new message from me by 5 pm Texas time, i was not blessed with my freedom. ALL of the projects i mentioned will still be released and promoted. PEACE!!!!!

i guess this means that Erotic D went to jail :-\ :-\ :-\
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« Reply #249 on: September 24, 2008, 12:46:26 AM »

Well I'm glad you signed up Erotic... to communicate trough Dre-Dre (on myspace) was going no where  :P
Feel free to PM me if there's anything to want to clear out.  ;) Most cats here is either some old ass cats or mature, so don't worry about "net banging"  ;)
Anyway here's how to post youtube videos; (in case you don't know)

....and I'm glad Breed is doing better.... hope you got some dope shit cooking for us.



Props on all the info. First and foremost great news on Breed.


Been a fan of Breed since the get go... this might cheer him up; (?)
MC Breed interviews (collected)
and
MC Breed reviews (collected)


Just reflecting on some of your comments, I hope you find everyone on this board respectful and appreciative but at the same time honest.
anyone who comes in here is a fan but they will share their disappointment if they are not feeling a particular track or whatever.
that's part of this and i hope as a music fan as well as a musician you can appreciate that.


yep,constructive criticism....


also just a random question but have you recently worked or do you plan to work with UPTIGHT?


The whole team that appeared on Deuce was tight,so wouldn't mind hearing some more from them.  ;)



Fellas!! I need you guys to pray for me and my family. I have been fighting for my freedom on a probation violation charge. I go to court at 2 pm Texas time today. This is a hearing that should determine whether i get more probation or prison time. As i am enjoying my comeback to the music scene AND my 6 month old son, i would gladly sign for the probation. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. So i can complete ANY length of probation. I just made a bad move after i had already done 5 yrs on probation. So i face the consequences like a man. If they give me some time, my wife will log on here to tell you. If you guys don't see a new message from me by 5 pm Texas time, i was not blessed with my freedom. ALL of the projects i mentioned will still be released and promoted. PEACE!!!!!

i guess this means that Erotic D went to jail :-\ :-\ :-\

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

shit happens  :-[
Wifee;
Maybe you should print out whatever is written here and give it to him,that might keep his head up.
There´s a link down to the left,
so you don't waste a lot of paper and space on the flicks and other info posted on the page.  ;)
I'll review his album asap,I have it in rotation now......
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