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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2007, 11:23:41 AM »
in dat "down home" video mayn, you posted..its tha same Six-Two who was on "2001" im 99% sure.
who is el dog?is it this el dog? http://www.discogs.com/artist/El+Dog (i think so, since he appearc on "mixed up murder".)damn i love discogs, theres some things they dont have but thats still off the chain!!

and who is this? http://www.discogs.com/artist/El+Dogg

 

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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2007, 02:51:29 AM »
big mike was dope as hell back in the days...

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2007, 06:30:43 PM »
i got these 2

The D.O.C. ft MC Ren, Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg & Six Two (4:58)
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The D.O.C. ft Xzibit, MC Ren, Ice Cube & Six Two (5:15)
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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2007, 07:31:21 AM »
6-2 interview in The Source April 2003 NO.163

 

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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2007, 04:17:12 PM »
props
 

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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2007, 05:15:08 PM »
The D.O.C; Deuce review in The Source April 2002 NO.151
 

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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2007, 10:07:58 AM »
i remember that the D.O.C. said that Six-Two is similar to him. i agree with that, when it comes to the current D.O.C., but the old D.O.C. had different subject matter and flow.

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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2007, 03:17:20 AM »
Gorilla Pimpin'. and the OG track is called Guerrilla pimpin ( from MC Breed's flatline album, like you said).

yeah i guess the D.O.C. wrote the stuff on Deuce; that would also explain why he doesn't perform much(Six-Two said that he's D.O.C.'s voice in that interview). hopefully voice through hot vessels is not just a plan though.

Six Two's Gorilla Pimpin is doper than the OG track imo.
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2007, 03:31:42 AM »
major props to everyone for keeping this thread going and to chad in particular for all the hookups  8)

I'm gonna hit up the interview request thread for a dubcnn interview with two face. i want to know what's going on with him and where the f*ck that southern hydro sh*t is!?
 

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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2007, 03:38:42 AM »

6-2's Gorilla Pimpin' is  doper than the OG track

Well,I don't know, I like Breed's version better.
Maybe it's because I had Breed's Flatline in heavy rotation a couple years before 6-2's version dropped. Flatline is one of my personal classic's,but so is Deuce,so it's a tuff choice. ha,ha.
ha, actually i heard the remake on the deuce album before i heard the MC breed track ( i found out later that the six-two one was a remake). so maybe we're just used to the one which we heard first  :)
anyway, aside from the performance, the added elements from the beat are nice on the remake, so that's another reason for me why i like the remake a bit more ( and offcourse a slightly better chorus).

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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2007, 12:15:30 PM »
major props to everyone for keeping this thread going and to chad in particular for all the hookups  8)

I'm gonna hit up the interview request thread for a dubcnn interview with two face. i want to know what's going on with him and where the f*ck that southern hydro sh*t is!?

check the 6-2 thread in the HUS.

props man. a lot of very dope sh*t.
 

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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2008, 07:55:22 PM »
Conspiracy Interview with The D.O.C. Part 1
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/eY_Ruw5Wv8A&amp;rel" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/eY_Ruw5Wv8A&amp;rel</a>

Conspiracy Interview with The D.O.C. Part 2
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/GTXULictevQ&amp;rel" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/GTXULictevQ&amp;rel</a>

Conspiracy Interview with The D.O.C. Part 3
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qY4DB_Q-aww&amp;rel" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/qY4DB_Q-aww&amp;rel</a>
 

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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2008, 05:55:55 PM »
You ainīt gonna believe this;  :o :o :o :o

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1 used & new available from $2,475.00

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One Gud Cide - What The Streets Made - Rare OOP OG
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This is a Rare and Out Of Print CD by “ONE GUD CIDE”!!! The title to this album is “LOOK WHAT THE STREETS MADE”!!! This album dates back to 1995 on SCARRED FOR LIFE Records!!!
CONDITION: USED
TRACKS: 14
FORMAT: CD
NOTES: This is the O.G. Original 1st Pressing with the Purple Disc!!! Yes, it comes with Front & Back Inserts. This is the REAL THING!!! Collector's only!!! ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO TELL THE OG 1995 VERSION FROM THE 1996 RE-RELEASE IS SIMPLY BY LOOKING AT THE FRONT COVER CLOSELY. THE OG'S FRONT COVER HAS S.J. WITH HIS WHITE BASEBALL CAP ON IT!!! DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE OTHER SELLERS WHO SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE O.G. THE PRICE IS HIGH BECAUSE THERE'S A SELLER ON AMAZON SELLING THE 1996 RE-RELEASE FOR THE SAME PRICE.



^^^^^This must one hell of a rare album  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ^^^^
 

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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2008, 02:59:27 PM »
I jacked this from;
nice lil review i found of the d.o.c
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=49243.0
The D.O.C. :: Deuce :: Silverback Records
as reviewed by Steve 'Flash' Juon
The story of D.O.C. is the story of how the music industry will take a man, pimp him for everything it can, and then kick him to the curb when there's nothing left to make money on. In his teenage years, Tracy Curry started out his career as part of the Fila Fresh Crew in Dallas. By chance a visiting DJ named Andre Young was at one of their local shows, and recognized in him a talent for lyric writing and flow. The rest is history - Dre brought him back to Cali, and he ended up ghostwriting raps for N.W.A. members Dre and Eazy-E. Despite being constantly ganked by E for his publishing and royalties, D.O.C. stayed loyal to his close friend Young and eventually got his time to shine on "No One Can Do it Better." It was magic on wax - Young on the beats, Curry on the raps, simultaneously putting Compton and Dallas on the map. D.O.C. was hard without being cartoonishly gangster, and smooth without being too crossover - yet his album was quickly certified gold and went down in hip-hop history as an undisputed classic. This classic quickly became tragic when the D.O.C.'s vocal chords were severed in a car crash on 11/11/89, an accident that nearly claimed the young star's life as well.

Now let's give the doctors and the surgeons credit - not only did they save his life, but they put his vocal chords back together so he would be able to speak again. Unfortunately, speaking and rapping aren't the same thing. In his first career, D.O.C. had a mid-octave distinctive voice; you might have called it a cross between DJ Quik and Devin the Dude. In his second career, D.O.C. was left with a raspy voice that relegated him to guest appearances on album skits like N.W.A.'s "Don't Drink That Wine" and Dr. Dre's "The $20 Sack Pyramid." Already pushed to the background once by the greed of Ruthless Records, Curry was once again in the uncomfortable position of penning hits for other people. Cruel fate took down a budding rap star just as he was about to shine.

D.O.C. already attempted one comeback - the 1996 album "Helter Skelter" released on Giant Records. Despite a lot of speculation that he had miraculously recovered his voice or had an additional surgery done to restore his speaking power, fans were dissapointed to discover he was still the raspy wino from N.W.A. skits. The songwriting ability never left Curry, but it was clearly a case of the spirit being willing while the flesh was weak. Not surprisingly, the album was a huge flop and little remembered today even by die-hard D.O.C. fans - who were probably stunned and surprised to see him make a SECOND attempt at a comeback with the release of the ironically titled "Deuce."

There's good news and bad news about this album - and the harsh reality is that they're both the same thing - D.O.C. doesn't rap much. In fact, a great deal of this album's vocals are performed by 6Two, who gained fame as the pimpish rapper on Dr. Dre's "Xxplosive" from the Chronic 2001. He's got a lot more Southern in his drawl than D.O.C. had in his heyday, which works to his advantage in giving him a sound that turns heads and makes people take notice. Right away on "Big Dick Shit" featuring Nate Dogg it's clear that the rapper is the star of this album:

"See me movin in slow mo', cause I don't dance
I ain't tellin you hoes no mo', let go my pants
I'm just tryin to let you know the reason I came
I'm just really tryin to lace you up on game
We party 'til we cain't no more in this do-main
It's yo' world playgurl, so just do yo' thang
Can't nobody tell you who to sock it to
Shit, I don't see nobody in here stoppin you
They like it when I do that - tell 'em to strip
I won't even speak on what they do with they lips
DAMN, you look good the way you movin yo' hips
Let yo' backbone slip gurl, don't even trip
Look at this nigga showboat -- it's what haters be sayin
I'm a macadamia nut, they think I be playin
I see me and you ain't on the same page
Hey lil' momma, later meet me backstage"

The one time 6Two really gets upstaged on this album is on an N.W.A. reunion cut simply titled "The Shit." Jazze Pha sets 'em up while Ice Cube, MC Ren plus guests 6Two and Snoop Dogg knock 'em down - but it's Ren that steals the show:

"Ren makin niggaz run and duck, hands on my balls
with The D.O.C. not givin a fuck, we bad luck
Here dick to suck - yo' hoe can taste it
with The Villain DNA when she ready to chase it
I'm on another level than y'all
Niggaz dressed up like they Pope John Paul
It's that new motherfuckin +Formula+ y'all, fuck the dress code
Nigga come and smash the walls, posted up
Hoes choked up, dig too bick
Bout to tear they throat up - Ren give a FUCK
You askin to get cut, Comp-town started this shit
So nigga what? We all fucked up!"

Otherwise, 6Two basically dominates the album - making the "Deuce" title much more appropriate, even though calling this a D.O.C. album as such is simply not true. He produces several tracks, lends writing duties (no surprise there) to a lot of the songs, but is limited to doing cameos and skits on what is ostensibly his own album. Still, you're not going to complain when listening to tracks like the 6Two and U.P-T.I.G.H.T. duet "What Would You Do?," the humerous "Gorilla Pympin'," the Dr. Dre produced "Judgment Day" and Erotic's smooth tracks on "Ghetto Blues" and "All in the Family" - the latter featuring newcomers El Dorado and N'Dambi. The most D.O.C.-esque track on the whole album is probably Jabourn and D.O.C.'s co-produced "1-2-3 (Critical Condition)," on which U.P.-T.I.G.H.T. spits a hyperactive furious flow that will make rap heads nostalgic for old school classics like "It's Funky Enough" and "Grand Finale."

"Deuce" is in effect the announcement of budding Southern rap star 6Two, a "Mentally Disturbed" rapper who flows equally well over funk beats from Dr. Dre and Jazze Pha. In fact, when you file this album away in your rap collection, you should list it under "6" instead of "D." This sleight of hand is at first insulting to the listener, but just as quickly forgotten when listening to an album full of strong songs like the Organized Noize produced "DFW" featuring all of the album's aforementioned stars and a guest appearance from Baby of the Big Tymers. The production is solid throughout, the rappers appearing in lieu of D.O.C. all shine, and ultimately this is more of a compilation album than a D.O.C. solo album. I ain't complaining, just make sure that 6Two gets pushed to the next level when this album gets everyone open to his flow.

Music Vibes: 7.5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 7.5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 7.5 of 10

Originally posted: February 25, 2003
source: www.RapReviews.com



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« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2008, 10:14:30 AM »
This has somehow become a D.O.C thread too,so thatīs why Iīll post some D.O.C shit in here too.

220 The D.O.C; Helter Skelter review in The Source February 1996 NO.77










so the helter skelter review wasn't that negative after all  :laugh:
i expected the writer to heavily criticise the D.O.C. for rapping with the "different" voice.

Letīs throw in Rap Pages review while weīre at it  ;)

293 The D.O.C; Helter Skelter review in Rap Pages December 1995



4 out of 10  >:( ^^^^^
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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2008, 02:21:02 PM »
so the helter skelter review wasn't that negative after all  :laugh:
i expected the writer to heavily criticise the D.O.C. for rapping with the "different" voice.

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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2008, 04:10:00 AM »
so the helter skelter review wasn't that negative after all  :laugh:
i expected the writer to heavily criticise the D.O.C. for rapping with the "different" voice.

Letīs throw in Rap Pages review while weīre at it  ;)

293 The D.O.C; Helter Skelter review in Rap Pages December 1995
4 out of 10  >:( ^^^^^
>:( what a hater.

personally i'd rate this album 3.5 out of 5; at least the source gave this album a chance.
and i thought that the return of da livin' dead was a nice introduction to the album, so the sample didn't really bother me, although the remix is much better imo.


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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2008, 04:23:15 AM »
so the helter skelter review wasn't that negative after all  :laugh:
i expected the writer to heavily criticise the D.O.C. for rapping with the "different" voice.

Letīs throw in Rap Pages review while weīre at it  ;)

293 The D.O.C; Helter Skelter review in Rap Pages December 1995
4 out of 10  >:( ^^^^^
>:( what a hater.

personally i'd rate this album 3.5 out of 5; at least the source gave this album a chance.
and i thought that the return of da livin' dead was a nice introduction to the album,
so the sample didn't really bother me,
although the remix is much better imo.


I actually love the album and could almost consider it a personal classic,
but the weak tracks drags it down  :P.
As you said at least The Source gave it a chance and even left "us" with the final call.
 

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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2008, 05:08:27 AM »
For me that album is a straight classic...I love D.O.C.'s fucked up voice...and the production by Erotic D was super tight + the guest features were incredible.
 

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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2008, 05:11:54 AM »
so the helter skelter review wasn't that negative after all  :laugh:
i expected the writer to heavily criticise the D.O.C. for rapping with the "different" voice.

Letīs throw in Rap Pages review while weīre at it  ;)

293 The D.O.C; Helter Skelter review in Rap Pages December 1995
4 out of 10  >:( ^^^^^
>:( what a hater.

personally i'd rate this album 3.5 out of 5; at least the source gave this album a chance.
and i thought that the return of da livin' dead was a nice introduction to the album,
so the sample didn't really bother me,
although the remix is much better imo.


I actually love the album and could almost consider it a personal classic,
but the weak tracks drags it down  :P.

yeah i see your point; otherwise i would have rated it 4/5 i guess  :laugh:

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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2008, 02:52:30 AM »
so the helter skelter review wasn't that negative after all  :laugh:
i expected the writer to heavily criticise the D.O.C. for rapping with the "different" voice.

Letīs throw in Rap Pages review while weīre at it  ;)

293 The D.O.C; Helter Skelter review in Rap Pages December 1995
4 out of 10  >:( ^^^^^
>:( what a hater.

personally i'd rate this album 3.5 out of 5; at least the source gave this album a chance.
and i thought that the return of da livin' dead was a nice introduction to the album,
so the sample didn't really bother me,
although the remix is much better imo.


I actually love the album and could almost consider it a personal classic,
but the weak tracks drags it down  :P.
As you said at least The Source gave it a chance and even left "us" with the final call.

i'm starting to like it a bit more, right now i think i would rate it 3.75/5. 45 automatic and da hereafter have really grown on me ( i always liked the special effects though )
i hope Killa instinct will grow on me as well.

by the way, i'd like to know which tracks you don't like  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2008, 05:10:40 AM »
Chadīs  PERSONAL breakdown of  The D.O.C Helter Skelter;

-Intro;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Dope,like how itīs put together.
-Return Of The Living Dead
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 6
Donīt fit the voice and lyrics like the Remix,which leads me to believe that this is actually the ”real remix”,
the remix how ever is DOPE as fuck.
-From Ruthless 2 Death Row
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Simply love it,the beat suits the story and the end when Erotic D scratch in all the classic D.O.C lines....
ohhhh shit.... that shit is crazy dope.
-Secret Plan
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 8
Some real dark shit reminds me of the ”sound” that RBX used on ”The RBX files”
-Komurshell;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
WTF; this shit is hilarious.
Seems like D.O.C was the mastermind behind those hilarious NWA skits.
-4 My Dogz;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Another tigth story rap
-45 automatic
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Ohhhh shit,the beat is FIRE,some serial killer shit.
The MC comes correct too.
Simply LOVE it.....
Sonzo OīLight;
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 8
Some dark shit again,but there seems to be a miss match somehow.
Bitchez;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Some sad shit,love it....
-Interlude
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 6
Thatīs a crazy ass beat,but he drops some knowledge.
THINK IT AIN`T ILLEGAL YET! THINK IT AIN`T ILLEGAL YET!
-Da Hereafter;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
The only thing wrong with this track is the mix,I canīt barely hear the lyrics.
-Exotix Shit;
Lyrics; 7
Beat; 7
Some cypher shit,hmmm not the best trac kon the album but MC Breed saves it.
-Welcome To The New World;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
But Erotic D should left those add lips at home.
-Killa Instinct;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Damn Iīve slept on this track,is that Dre heīs talking to at the begining?
Thatīs what fucking with the white g*rl do to you,if you do too much that is.  :P ;)
But Iīm in a little conflict with this track...
-Komurshell;
Lyrics; 6
Beat; 6
Average,and Erotic D sounds like Dre on the mic.
-Brand New Formula;
Lyrics; 0
Beat; 0
No,NO you canīt re-create this classic.
-Outro;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Like how put all the titles together to make sense out of it.
-Crazy Bitches;
Lyrics; 5
Beat; 5
Donīt feel it...

320/360 points that should equal something like 4.5 right?
But still it feels like a 4  :P :laugh:......
and got to add that a more objective rating would be more like 3.5.  ;)


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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2008, 10:49:17 AM »
Chadīs  PERSONAL breakdown of  The D.O.C Helter Skelter;

-Intro;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Dope,like how itīs put together.
exactly! a great way to introduce the album and the new voice

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-Return Of The Living Dead
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 6
Donīt fit the voice and lyrics like the Remix,which leads me to believe that this is actually the ”real remix”,
the remix how ever is DOPE as fuck.
at first i thought the beat was a bit cheap( even though they added effects), they should have switched the tracks, since the official remix is so much better like you said
the lyrics are good indeed.

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-From Ruthless 2 Death Row
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Simply love it,the beat suits the story and the end when Erotic D scratch in all the classic D.O.C lines....
ohhhh shit.... that shit is crazy dope.
it's a sad track, but the beat matches the lyrics perfectly; great storytelling by the D.O.C.
and the voice samples are a good indeed, it really gives you that what if feeling  ;)

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-Secret Plan
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 8
Some real dark shit reminds me of the ”sound” that RBX used on ”The RBX files”
yeah real dope indeed, with the sample and all.

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-Komurshell;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
WTF; this shit is hilarious.
Seems like D.O.C was the mastermind behind those hilarious NWA skits.
yeah i guess you're right  ;) skit is funny

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-4 My Dogz;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Another tigth story rap
not really liking the beat as much as you do, but it certainly isn't bad.
for the rest i agree.

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-45 automatic
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Ohhhh shit,the beat is FIRE,some serial killer shit.
The MC comes correct too.
Simply LOVE it.....
again, not loving the beat as much as you do, but i like the different elements though.
the lyrics are good, and i like the flow of the female mc; her style is similar to the Lady of Rage

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Sonzo OīLight;
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 8
Some dark shit again,but there seems to be a miss match somehow.
yep, i like that dark shit too  8) but what do you mean?
anyway, i like how the beat changes halfway; it really makes it even more dramatic  :laugh:

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Bitchez;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Some sad shit,love it....
i don't like the beat, but it fits the concept of the song well i guess.
the song is basically the D.O.C.'s parody of bitches ain't shit--> he talks about dre

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-Interlude
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 6
Thatīs a crazy ass beat,but he drops some knowledge.
THINK IT AIN`T ILLEGAL YET! THINK IT AIN`T ILLEGAL YET!

:laugh: for some reason i never really listened to this track, probably thought it was just a short skit. the beat is alright.

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-Da Hereafter;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
The only thing wrong with this track is the mix,I canīt barely hear the lyrics.
and again i don't like the beat as much as you do, but i like all the elements.
for the rest i pretty much agree.

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-Exotix Shit;
Lyrics; 7
Beat; 7
Some cypher shit,hmmm not the best trac kon the album but MC Breed saves it.
i don't really like this track

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-Welcome To The New World;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
But Erotic D should left those add lips at home.
it's a shame that it was such a short track and i agree that Erotic D shouldn't have said anything  :laugh:

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-Killa Instinct;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Damn Iīve slept on this track,is that Dre heīs talking to at the begining?
Thatīs what fucking with the white g*rl do to you,if you do too much that is.  :P ;)
But Iīm in a little conflict with this track...
i don't know about the beat, there is something wrong with it, but i don't know how to decribe it  :laugh:
the lyrics are good though.
and i'm not sure if that's dre; it could be Erotic-D too

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-Komurshell;
Lyrics; 6
Beat; 6
Average,and Erotic D sounds like Dre on the mic.
it's decent at best i guess

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-Brand New Formula;
Lyrics; 0
Beat; 0
No,NO you canīt re-create this classic.
like return of da livin dead, it wasn't very smart to recycle.

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-Outro;
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Like how put all the titles together to make sense out of it.
yeah that was nice. he's also talking about possible future plans, was he serious, he was talking about beyond 2000. it wasn't detailed offcourse.

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-Crazy Bitches;
Lyrics; 5
Beat; 5
Donīt feel it...
the lyrics have some similarities with the bitchez track; but the D.O.C. doesn't sound good on this, it's almost unlistenable. while he tried to use his old flow on other tracks as well, this is the only track where it's on an unacceptable level for me.
the beat is average indeed.

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320/360 points that should equal something like 4.5 right?
But still it feels like a 4  :P :laugh:......
and got to add that a more objective rating would be more like 3.5.  ;)

well my rating ( 3.75) is a little lower, but that's just a matter of opinion offcourse  ;)
if return of da livin' dead was switched with the official remix, crazy bitchez removed and the remix of "from ruthless to death row" was added as a bonus i might have rated it 4/5.

like you i heavily disagree with rap pages and the people who think that this album was a wasted effort.  stop acting like the D.O.C. lost his voice; it just sounds different. i understand that some people don't like the different style, but i just hate the exaggerations.
sure, Dr.Dre wasn't around, and trying to rap using the old flow was a bad idea, but overall Erotic D did a nice job with the production and the D.O.C's lyrics are great on this album imo; great concept album.

if dre was the executive producer for this album, and mixed the whole album i may have rated it even higher.

damn, i'm really looking forward to Voice Threw Hot Vessels; dre is going to be executive producing that album right?
it should be really interesting; the D.O.C. has also been working on his flow, as you can hear on Deuce so we'll see  ;)


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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2008, 02:19:21 AM »
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WHAAAAAT?  laugh laugh The beat is absolutely FIRE!!!  laugh laugh
Passion is dope,I got some more features by her,she has apperntly released a couple of solo albums.
(according to a dubCC member in one of Phsycho Hustlas threads  Wink,but yet to check this myself)
well i'm not saying it's decent at best, but i just disagree with a 10 rating  ;) but i can see why you like it. it really has a lot of potential, it's just one element that takes away a bit of it's shine. i don't know how to decribe it, it's a loop and it's sounds a bit like a bee or a mosquito (sorry for the vague description, hopefully you know what i mean though )

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^^^^not even sure myself,maybe the vocals and the beat... something is not right,canīt really point my finger on it.
ok. i actually thought the D.O.C.'s flow was good on this, since the tempo on the beat was perfect for his voice. i like the chorus  :laugh:
this is my favorite track off of helter skelter  8)
edit: although i'm not sure, i really like secret plan too  8)

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^^^^got to listen to that again.... remember he was fucking with the wh*te g*rl heavy at the time  Undecided,
so he said and did things out of characther at times.
you don't mean that literally right, you're talking about drugs ?

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^^^^Well I know as much as you.^^^^
We just got to wait and see...  Wink
you know, just like detox i'm really looking forward to it.

Deuce was a compilation, and i want another D.O.C. soloalbum  >:(  :laugh: :laugh: the result could be a bit disappointing offcourse, but it seems like he has the tools that he missed when making helter skelter


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Re: Southern Hydro (Big Mike and Six2)
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2008, 06:59:08 PM »
Yeah I enjoyed Helter Skelter as well. The lyrical content was there and the beats were knockin. The whole voice thing yeah it may turn most off to his music, but like Dre said earlier, I thought on alot of tracks that Erotic D especially did a good job of matching his vocals well with the beats. If I was put on the spot and had to rank it, I would give it a 4 out of 5.