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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2007, 07:07:42 AM »
Favorite joint "I Still Love You", nothing really stand out except for the singles, but another one of those albums you can bump front to back.

I agree not a whole lot of stand out material, but that ain't somethin bad, all that means is when you pop in the album, instead of jumping to track 6, then to 12, then 3, you just play it begininng to end 8)

That's what a whole lot of albums lack nowadays, they have one or 2 dope songs, the rest is commercial singles or trash, so i appreciate the Trap Muzik's, the Illmatic's and the Dogg Food's, not the poppy albums coming out nowadays. You have some real talk in this topic man, +1.

let the record show that xander said Trap Muzik, Illmatic, and Dogg Food ;)

lol. just messin around. Thanks alot dog, props right back at ya
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2007, 07:46:25 AM »
Trap Muzik is his best album when it comes to consistency... I wasn't feelin his last two as a whole.. a hip hop classic ? Naw, a very good album yep

I think T.I. is very underatted as an emcee due to his commercial success. Thing is, he's one of the only rappers who makes GOOD commercial tracks and bangers on his albums. Trap Muzik, Urban Legend and King are all albums I can listen to front to back. Gotta give Tip his props.

yea he's DEF under-rated as an emcee because of all the success. Totally agreed on the GOOD commercial tracks side as well. I'm Serious is a great album as well, and his 4 albums with the P$C are good 2.

Damn, 4 P$C albums? I only heard 25 2 Life and I didn't like but 3-4 songs.

25 to life is the more recent one. I really enjoyed it man. T.I. was KILLIN the tracks he was on, I think since the impression was suppose to be left on the rest of the crew, and let them shine people didn't realise that, but T.I. murdered the tracks he was on. Must of been in a zone during them recording sessions.

After T.I. dropped his debut album "i'm serious" on arista records, we all know it flopped, and him & L.A. Reid decided it'd be best if they went seperate ways. T.I. and Jason Geter then formed the Grand Hustle label, and T.I. & The P$C did 3 street albums entitled "In Da Streets Vol.1, 2 & 3 (you probably recognize the name cause Top Back Remix was the lead single of In Da Streets Vol. 4, which is much different then the 1st 3). These street albums where what landed T.I. his deal over at atlantic. There held in a very high regard in Atlanta, being seen as local classics. I think after vol. 2 T.I. signed to atlantic, but they still dropped vol.3. They got some classic tracks like 404, Da P$C, Like Dis Here, Fuck Yo Back, I'm So High, Jackin For Beats 2K1 and so on. T.I. was really spitting on these as well.

If you'd like I can hook you up ;)

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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2007, 09:10:57 AM »
Favorite joint "I Still Love You", nothing really stand out except for the singles, but another one of those albums you can bump front to back.

I agree not a whole lot of stand out material, but that ain't somethin bad, all that means is when you pop in the album, instead of jumping to track 6, then to 12, then 3, you just play it begininng to end 8)

That's what a whole lot of albums lack nowadays, they have one or 2 dope songs, the rest is commercial singles or trash, so i appreciate the Trap Muzik's, the Illmatic's and the Dogg Food's, not the poppy albums coming out nowadays. You have some real talk in this topic man, +1.

let the record show that xander said Trap Muzik, Illmatic, and Dogg Food ;)

lol. just messin around. Thanks alot dog, props right back at ya


What do you mean? I don;t understand it.  ???
 

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2007, 09:12:21 AM »
Favorite joint "I Still Love You", nothing really stand out except for the singles, but another one of those albums you can bump front to back.

I agree not a whole lot of stand out material, but that ain't somethin bad, all that means is when you pop in the album, instead of jumping to track 6, then to 12, then 3, you just play it begininng to end 8)

That's what a whole lot of albums lack nowadays, they have one or 2 dope songs, the rest is commercial singles or trash, so i appreciate the Trap Muzik's, the Illmatic's and the Dogg Food's, not the poppy albums coming out nowadays. You have some real talk in this topic man, +1.

let the record show that xander said Trap Muzik, Illmatic, and Dogg Food ;)

lol. just messin around. Thanks alot dog, props right back at ya


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for the people arguing that it ain't a classic album, you put it in the same category with illmatic & dogg food which are obvious classics
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2007, 09:17:48 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub.  

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory.  

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.
 

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2007, 09:20:59 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub.  

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory.  

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I never said it was a classic like the other's, dont make up stories bitchass. I compared them to eachother cause all these albums TO ME are consistant and i can listen to them from track 1 to the end. So yeah, i could have put other albyums there, but those were just the ones coming to mind, don't twist my words though, faggot, cause next i know i got all these dickriders on my nuts again starting fueds and beefs. It's ok people are dissing me, it shows i upset people and that's only funny to me, but i have no time for other stuff. Thanks.  :)
 

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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2007, 09:21:38 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub. 

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory. 

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I don't think xander was comparing TM to illmatic. He was saying it is 1 of those albums that you can bump front to back LIKE illmatic and so on. My original thread shows why i think its a classic.

To say it didn't inflence nobody is actually a lie, because many rappers have since tried 2 copy T.I.'s style, but nobody has done it as good or had as much success as the King 8)
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2007, 09:26:30 AM »
Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)


Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub. 

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory. 

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I don't think xander was comparing TM to illmatic. He was saying it is 1 of those albums that you can bump front to back LIKE illmatic and so on. My original thread shows why i think its a classic.

To say it didn't inflence nobody is actually a lie, because many rappers have since tried 2 copy T.I.'s style, but nobody has done it as good or had as much success as the King 8)

Stop defending yourself, you are right, he's not. He just gotta live with it, let the doggie be mad. Maybe Jome could go to DipCC, i bet he would feel much more comfortable over there. Lol.
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2007, 09:29:47 AM »
Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)

yea I ain't hating, but I think people like that do pass up on the classics often. TM is 1 dog. Amerikkka's Most Wanted is great, but I'll take Death Certificate over it anyday.
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2007, 09:46:43 AM »
Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)

yea I ain't hating, but I think people like that do pass up on the classics often. TM is 1 dog. Amerikkka's Most Wanted is great, but I'll take Death Certificate over it anyday.

death certificate all day

i dont think iv heard the whole trap muzik album, iv got it so ill give it another listen and post my thoughts on it
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2007, 09:49:11 AM »
Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)

yea I ain't hating, but I think people like that do pass up on the classics often. TM is 1 dog. Amerikkka's Most Wanted is great, but I'll take Death Certificate over it anyday.

death certificate all day

i dont think iv heard the whole trap muzik album, iv got it so ill give it another listen and post my thoughts on it

yea man DC shits on all of cube albums, although all of them are great 8)

Trap Muzik ain't really an album you gon take in your car, bump it, and enjoy it. You will a few songs (the quicker paced 1s) but I suggest that you just chill out in the pad, put and put it on man. Gotta pay attention to it dog. Read my original post before listening 2 it ;)

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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2007, 09:53:54 AM »
Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)

yea I ain't hating, but I think people like that do pass up on the classics often. TM is 1 dog. Amerikkka's Most Wanted is great, but I'll take Death Certificate over it anyday.

death certificate all day

i dont think iv heard the whole trap muzik album, iv got it so ill give it another listen and post my thoughts on it

yea man DC shits on all of cube albums, although all of them are great 8)

Trap Muzik ain't really an album you gon take in your car, bump it, and enjoy it. You will a few songs (the quicker paced 1s) but I suggest that you just chill out in the pad, put and put it on man. Gotta pay attention to it dog. Read my original post before listening 2 it ;)

lookin forward to your thoughts

24's sounds great in a system. I actually bump this on the regular in the ride. Well for me at least his whole catalogue I can play in the ride. I still play I'm Serious alot.

 

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2007, 09:57:00 AM »
Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)

yea I ain't hating, but I think people like that do pass up on the classics often. TM is 1 dog. Amerikkka's Most Wanted is great, but I'll take Death Certificate over it anyday.

death certificate all day

i dont think iv heard the whole trap muzik album, iv got it so ill give it another listen and post my thoughts on it

yea man DC shits on all of cube albums, although all of them are great 8)

Trap Muzik ain't really an album you gon take in your car, bump it, and enjoy it. You will a few songs (the quicker paced 1s) but I suggest that you just chill out in the pad, put and put it on man. Gotta pay attention to it dog. Read my original post before listening 2 it ;)

lookin forward to your thoughts

24's sounds great in a system. I actually bump this on the regular in the ride. Well for me at least his whole catalogue I can play in the ride. I still play I'm Serious alot.



oo yea for sure there's some nice cuts for the ride. 24s, Look What I Got and so on. But the real tracks are real hard to appreciate in the ride. I'm Serious (track) BUMPS BIG TIME in da car 8)

All of his albums are great in there own way. Trap Muzik & Urban Legend being his most lyrical ones. King had some dope production, and he came tight on some tracks (Ride With Me reminded me of the trap muzik days). I'm Serious was more of a combo of decent lyrics and production. That song with Too $hort is fire 8)
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2007, 10:00:34 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub.  

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory.  

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I never said it was a classic like the other's, dont make up stories bitchass. I compared them to eachother cause all these albums TO ME are consistant and i can listen to them from track 1 to the end. So yeah, i could have put other albyums there, but those were just the ones coming to mind, don't twist my words though, faggot, cause next i know i got all these dickriders on my nuts again starting fueds and beefs. It's ok people are dissing me, it shows i upset people and that's only funny to me, but i have no time for other stuff. Thanks.  :)

LOL, don't you know the rules of debate?  When you relegate yourself to personal insults you've already lost.  No need to be defensive.  Now take a deep breath and re-read my post.  I said I can understand ANY ALBUM being a personal classic to someone.  I've got loads of them.  But that doesn't mean that I'd make brash statements and define them as a Hip Hop classic because they are not. 

Oh one more thing, stop acting like it's impossible that another "Chronic" is coming out, you are waiting til another "gem" drops, just as bad as some fucking christians waiting for CHrist to return, don't believe the bullshit, start thinking for yourself. You are so focused on these "classics" that you fail to check the real classics coming out. A classic to you doesn't have to be the same for me you know, respect that and don't act like your opinion is the only truth.

Amerikkka's Most Wanted is aight but Lethal Injection was way better, and much more "classic" then the one you name. 36 Chambers, horrible sound, sound like this was thrown together in 1 day with a cassette recorder or something, The W or Iron Flag is a much better album.

Hell, Paid In Full, i never liked that album, i rather bump Trap Muzik, so now i am "fake" just cause my taste is different? Lol, you are definately crazy, i won;t waste time on people like you anymore, think what you want, but let others do the same. Thanks.  :)

Damn homie, I really shook you with my statement huh?  Your taste is your taste, but your statements are showing a lack of maturity when it comes to Hip Hop.  And that's not a diss.  If you're a real Hip Hop fan lets have this convo in another 10 years.  If you're constantly digging and searching for Hip Hop with an insatiable appetite, you'll eventually understand the absolute brilliance of albums like 36 Chambers and Paid In Full.  I promise.
 

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2007, 10:03:24 AM »
I don't know though if T.I. has a real classic in his catalogue. You have to remember there are ALOT of classics just in the South alone. Scarface, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Geto Boys, and a few others and for me at least I don't know if I would add TM to that list, but it is dope nonetheless.
 

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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2007, 10:05:14 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub. 

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory. 

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I don't think xander was comparing TM to illmatic. He was saying it is 1 of those albums that you can bump front to back LIKE illmatic and so on. My original thread shows why i think its a classic.

To say it didn't inflence nobody is actually a lie, because many rappers have since tried 2 copy T.I.'s style, but nobody has done it as good or had as much success as the King 8)

Who has copied his style, and why did they fail?  Do you mean they didn't go platinum? Or his style is so complex that it can't be duplicated?
 

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2007, 10:07:37 AM »
Stop defending yourself, you are right, he's not. He just gotta live with it, let the doggie be mad. Maybe Jome could go to DipCC, i bet he would feel much more comfortable over there. Lol.

LOL, step up your comprehension game brah.  It's Jrome, not Jome.  And why hate on DipCC?  They good peoples.  Quit trying to stir up net beef, that shit is gay holmes.
 

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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2007, 10:08:07 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub. 

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory. 

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I don't think xander was comparing TM to illmatic. He was saying it is 1 of those albums that you can bump front to back LIKE illmatic and so on. My original thread shows why i think its a classic.

To say it didn't inflence nobody is actually a lie, because many rappers have since tried 2 copy T.I.'s style, but nobody has done it as good or had as much success as the King 8)

Who has copied his style, and why did they fail?  Do you mean they didn't go platinum? Or his style is so complex that it can't be duplicated?

not that they failed, but they haven't been as succesful. I would say Jeezy is nearly a carbon copy of T.I., and Rick Ross is extremely similar as well. Ray Cash is another. But none of them have had the success that T.I. has had. Never as good as the original ;)

Ray Cash is dope, i'll give him that, he's the closest to T.I. in terms of skill level

Also, I doubt T.I. was the first 1, but I honestly had not heard of "the trap" before T.I. began rapping about it. Now you can hear "trap" in just about every song that comes outta atlanta. Agian, I'm NOT saying T.I. was the first to rap about the trap (I don't know if any1 before him has, but i'd be suprised if nobody had) but NO DOUBT, since T.I. dropped Trap Muzik, you've heard raps about the trap WAY more often
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2007, 10:09:44 AM »
I don't know though if T.I. has a real classic in his catalogue. You have to remember there are ALOT of classics just in the South alone. Scarface, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Geto Boys, and a few others and for me at least I don't know if I would add TM to that list, but it is dope nonetheless.

I respect your opinion. I can't wait to do Face, Kast, GB catalogue. I've heard alot of Kast (there my bros fav. group) but not all of it. Like I said in my o.g. post, I have my own reasons to why I believe it's a classic.
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2007, 10:37:54 AM »
I don't know though if T.I. has a real classic in his catalogue. You have to remember there are ALOT of classics just in the South alone. Scarface, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Geto Boys, and a few others and for me at least I don't know if I would add TM to that list, but it is dope nonetheless.

I respect your opinion. I can't wait to do Face, Kast, GB catalogue. I've heard alot of Kast (there my bros fav. group) but not all of it. Like I said in my o.g. post, I have my own reasons to why I believe it's a classic.

Yeah I would have to listen to that album again. I think T.I. did so much bragging and boasting about being the King Of The South that it made me expect some out of this world music to make a statement like that and I never got that from him. But no one called his hand on it so I guess he is the King of the South.  ;D But I am a fan of his music and he does have some dope albums.
 

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Fuck it, I am going to do the whole discography right now. Bumping I'm Serious to start.
 

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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2007, 10:45:25 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub. 

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory. 

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I don't think xander was comparing TM to illmatic. He was saying it is 1 of those albums that you can bump front to back LIKE illmatic and so on. My original thread shows why i think its a classic.

To say it didn't inflence nobody is actually a lie, because many rappers have since tried 2 copy T.I.'s style, but nobody has done it as good or had as much success as the King 8)

Who has copied his style, and why did they fail?  Do you mean they didn't go platinum? Or his style is so complex that it can't be duplicated?

not that they failed, but they haven't been as succesful. I would say Jeezy is nearly a carbon copy of T.I., and Rick Ross is extremely similar as well. Ray Cash is another. But none of them have had the success that T.I. has had. Never as good as the original ;)

Ray Cash is dope, i'll give him that, he's the closest to T.I. in terms of skill level

Also, I doubt T.I. was the first 1, but I honestly had not heard of "the trap" before T.I. began rapping about it. Now you can hear "trap" in just about every song that comes outta atlanta. Agian, I'm NOT saying T.I. was the first to rap about the trap (I don't know if any1 before him has, but i'd be suprised if nobody had) but NO DOUBT, since T.I. dropped Trap Muzik, you've heard raps about the trap WAY more often

I'll def give you the influence of the word "Trap".  As far as I know, nobody was saying that in the mainstream prior to him.  

However, I'd argue that cats like Jeezy & Rick Ross are a product of their label jumping on whatever trend was hot at the time moreso than invigorating a whole generation of up-and-coming rappers.  It's not like those guys were bubblin like a motherfucker and labels couldn't ignore them, rather they fit the same mold as T.I. so they were signed.  

So yeah, T.I. made room in the mainstream for guys like that.  But is that a good thing?  Guys with no discernable skills or distinctive talent?  Just because they talk about selling crack they are automatically put on?  
 

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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2007, 10:51:22 AM »
I don't know though if T.I. has a real classic in his catalogue. You have to remember there are ALOT of classics just in the South alone. Scarface, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Geto Boys, and a few others and for me at least I don't know if I would add TM to that list, but it is dope nonetheless.

I respect your opinion. I can't wait to do Face, Kast, GB catalogue. I've heard alot of Kast (there my bros fav. group) but not all of it. Like I said in my o.g. post, I have my own reasons to why I believe it's a classic.

Yeah I would have to listen to that album again. I think T.I. did so much bragging and boasting about being the King Of The South that it made me expect some out of this world music to make a statement like that and I never got that from him. But no one called his hand on it so I guess he is the King of the South.  ;D But I am a fan of his music and he does have some dope albums.

Yea nobody called him on it, and honestly now I don't even think it's an argument
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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2007, 10:52:42 AM »
Fuck it, I am going to do the whole discography right now. Bumping I'm Serious to start.

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nice man, that album has some gems on it. You can also see the growth he went through as an artist from I'm serious to his next albums.
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2007, 10:53:03 AM »
Wow, people comparing Trap Muzik to ILLMATIC :o  I've officially seen it all at the Dub. 

I can understand any album being a personal classic to someone, but no way is this album on the level of The Chronic, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation of Millions, Midnight Marauders, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, etc.  This album didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't change the way people view Hip Hop, it didn't explore unchartered territory. 

It's a decent mainstream album in an age of horrible over-commercialized crap.

I don't think xander was comparing TM to illmatic. He was saying it is 1 of those albums that you can bump front to back LIKE illmatic and so on. My original thread shows why i think its a classic.

To say it didn't inflence nobody is actually a lie, because many rappers have since tried 2 copy T.I.'s style, but nobody has done it as good or had as much success as the King 8)

Who has copied his style, and why did they fail?  Do you mean they didn't go platinum? Or his style is so complex that it can't be duplicated?

not that they failed, but they haven't been as succesful. I would say Jeezy is nearly a carbon copy of T.I., and Rick Ross is extremely similar as well. Ray Cash is another. But none of them have had the success that T.I. has had. Never as good as the original ;)

Ray Cash is dope, i'll give him that, he's the closest to T.I. in terms of skill level

Also, I doubt T.I. was the first 1, but I honestly had not heard of "the trap" before T.I. began rapping about it. Now you can hear "trap" in just about every song that comes outta atlanta. Agian, I'm NOT saying T.I. was the first to rap about the trap (I don't know if any1 before him has, but i'd be suprised if nobody had) but NO DOUBT, since T.I. dropped Trap Muzik, you've heard raps about the trap WAY more often

I'll def give you the influence of the word "Trap".  As far as I know, nobody was saying that in the mainstream prior to him. 

However, I'd argue that cats like Jeezy & Rick Ross are a product of their label jumping on whatever trend was hot at the time moreso than invigorating a whole generation of up-and-coming rappers.  It's not like those guys were bubblin like a motherfucker and labels couldn't ignore them, rather they fit the same mold as T.I. so they were signed. 

So yeah, T.I. made room in the mainstream for guys like that.  But is that a good thing?  Guys with no discernable skills or distinctive talent?  Just because they talk about selling crack they are automatically put on? 

Thank you for the influence on the word trap ;)

If there label did jump on whatever trend was hot, it was because T.I. made it hot.

It's not T.I.'s fault that those dudes aren't very good. T.I. is lightyears ahead of them (ray cash is dope like i said)
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