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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2007, 02:03:29 PM »
reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)

now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?

i dunno, lol just messing around.

To easily say 50 would kill T.I. in sales isn't exactly fair. I'm just saying, before last year, i bet pretty much everyone would say that Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Game, Nas, Ludacris would also *kill* T.I. in sales, and T.I. beat ALL of them out
But this is 50 Cent we are talking about. He can make a record composed soley of insturmentals, and he'd probably still go platinum.

and this was luda, game, snoop etc. we where talkin about
Neither Ludacris, Game, Nas, Jay-Z, or Snoop have ever sold over 5 million records in the US (further more doing it twice).

regardless luda is 1 of the most popular artists of all time, going multi-plat many, many times, and until 50 proves he can have success for as long as luda has, he ain't no luda (YET)

Game had 1 of the biggest debuts in a long ass time

Nas had MAD controversy off of the whole hip-hop is dead, signing to jay-z, etc.

Snoop is Snoop ;)

you sure luda never went 5x plat? ???
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2007, 02:14:46 PM »
Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.

Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped +  the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.


Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal. He started running his mouth too soon.
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2007, 02:18:44 PM »
Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.

Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped +  the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.


Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal.

luda has never gone 3x plat ???

i find that hard 2 believe

snoop has also never gone 3x plat?

same as luda statement

game i know for a fact went like 3-4xplat
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2007, 02:29:05 PM »
We arent talking about worldwide numbers here, because if you wanna do that the bar is raised to 12x plat and 9.8x plat.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2007, 02:36:23 PM »
There's a alot of shit that factors in. Holding it back for the international release is one thing, but there's also sample clearance issues that can come up or perhaps even new material that needs to be recorded because 50 may have cut joints at the last minute. But damn that's a really long time to wait, 2.5 months is crazy. The singles he's hitting us with now aren't getting THAT much of a buzz, so that might be part of the reason as well. He doesn't have an "In Da Club" or a "Candy Shop" out holding the #1 Billboard spot like he did for his last two albums.

 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2007, 02:49:58 PM »
Thats true but considering his strategy with 4 singles out before release date (Robin Thicke joint was planned to premier May 28th), he probably aimed that all those 4 are bubbleing under top 20 and not even having that only 1 number 1 single. With 4 singles out in that short period of time, its pretty much impossible to have a number 1 single but having 4 songs in top 20 is more realisitc. And lets not forget that STTB is 50 highest debut single in history, making it to nb. 32 in his deubut week on Billboard top 100 last week. This week however, it dissapeared from the charts, maybe they pulled it off the radio  ???

But yeah, STTB and Amusem. Park(which is fairly new though) arent not Disco Inferno and Candy Shop when it comes to hit factor but fuck the sales,  I liked them both better.

EDIT: STTB is also TRL top 10 and BET Top 10 countdown, week after the video premiered.
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2007, 03:30:53 PM »
i'm sure nobody is going to agree with me but..

i think 50 is anticipating that he is going to 'flop' by his standards. By Jay-Z's standards, his last album 'flopped'. It hasn't gone 2X platinum yet and he spent so much on the marketing.. Interscope/Aftermath is probably assuming that 50 is going to flop as well. I'm pretty sure this is all being considered in negotiations..

If i was interscope/Aftermath, i would drop 50 after this album comes out. They've maxed him out and his G-Unit venture isn't good.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2007, 03:33:28 PM »
That doesnt really make sense because if that was the case than they might as well drop all their artists. 50 is, next to Eminem, the most secure artists to do his numbers under the Interscope umbrella.

And 50 never uses huge budgests, usually he only has Dre and Em from the superstar producers and no guets. Now yes this time its different but still 12 track out of 18 would be produced by inhouse producers + Em and Dre.

Same goes for his GUnit artists, they all have low budget LPs, with inhouse producers and small amount of guests. Again, if they were to drop them, than drop Shady cus their doing worst than GUnit, drop Izone or whatever that Polow Da Don label is, since Rich Boy completley flopped..... you get my point
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2007, 04:05:07 PM »
whatever that Polow Da Don label is, since Rich Boy completley flopped..... you get my point

the whole rich boi doesn't really work, because out all the interscope releases this yr, rich boi probably had the lowest budget, seeing every song was produced by polow (or nearly every song) and there weren't ALOT of big name guests
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2007, 04:27:34 PM »
True but same goes for every GUnit release with addition to them selling more.
 

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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2007, 05:22:02 PM »
Ever since "The Massacre" dropped, G-Unit sales have been on a steady downfall. People aren't checking for them like they used to and I think even 50 Cent himself will be a victim to this G-Unit backlash in terms of heavy sales. Granted, the business is changing and everyone's record sales are suffering, but with 50 pushing his album back to September 4, it looks like it will either generate a huge buzz or it will kill a legitmate amount of push for the album in the long run.

Yayo was the first real flop by G-Unit standards. Then the Get Rich Or Die Tryin' sountrack did decent numbers, but it still failed to produce any high ranking hits. "Window Shopper" peaked at #20 on the Hot 100. Then we had Mobb Deep's record, another disappointment in terms of G-Unit standards...then Banks had his shot, another album that failed on a commercial level. Same with Buck if you think about it. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the recent G-Unit releases and I don't consider them as being disappointing albums at all. But that's just my opinion, the facts speak for themselves as do the numbers. 50 needs his following singles to blow up big time, because it doesn't look like they're going to chart that high at this point. Like Timbo said, STTB was a hot shot debut at #32 but it dropped well over 10 spots this week and the video just premiered. I like the joints he put out, but he needs Dre to hit him with a club banger. That formula never failed before.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2007, 07:38:22 PM »
LUDACRIS DID 3 MILL on TWO OF HIS ALBUMS.  THATS A BIG DIFF BETWEEN 2 U NUTS!

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2007, 07:49:35 PM »


Fuck Interscope. Fuck 50.



WTF man, 50 Cent HAS NOTHING to do with this.  It's RECORD LABEL BULLSHIT.

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2007, 07:55:23 PM »
hm, i think interscope should not dick with 50 like this.

from a pure business standpoint, cause like TTK said, he is easily the most surefire moneymaker they have.

from an artistic standpoint, this is whacker yet cause I'd rather all the mentions of 50 in this thread were replaced with "Bishop" and all mentions of "Curtis" were replaced with "the reformation'.


this is so bad, it's like talking about waiting for a whack appetizer when you're really just wanting the meal.

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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2007, 08:06:08 PM »
Won't this album fulfill his contract? They probly want to milk him for all he's worth before he has the opportunity to go.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2007, 09:14:57 PM »
Won't this album fulfill his contract? They probly want to milk him for all he's worth before he has the opportunity to go.

nah, this is one third of what's left in his contract. this one, BISD and the Greatest Hits will fulfill the contract.

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« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2007, 10:22:11 PM »
Christ, this is fucking HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE.  50 gettin pushed back?!?  Shit ain't sweet, that's all I can say.  I hope yall know that regardless of what the official spin is by 50 and the label, this absolutely means that they weren't satisified with the response to his single(s).  I knew 50 was gonna slump sales wise as his wackness has been getting more and more evident, but I didn't see him getting pushed back, especially 3 MONTHS. 

I honestly can't remember, but who else was supposed to drop the same day as 50 in June?  I remember saying that mos def one of them was gonna get pushed back, but honest to God I didn't expect it to be 50.

I've been sayin it for a while, but to me, this really signifies the end of 50's reign.  He's still gonna go plat, but understand that this is major.
 

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« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2007, 10:26:24 PM »
^^^^^^^

I think it was Ja Rule who is meant 2 be dropping the same day. lol


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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2007, 01:29:14 AM »
Sucks for Curtis "Interscope" Jackson and his fans.
 

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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2007, 03:05:15 AM »
Christ, this is fucking HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE.  50 gettin pushed back?!?  Shit ain't sweet, that's all I can say.  I hope yall know that regardless of what the official spin is by 50 and the label, this absolutely means that they weren't satisified with the response to his single(s).  I knew 50 was gonna slump sales wise as his wackness has been getting more and more evident, but I didn't see him getting pushed back, especially 3 MONTHS. 

I honestly can't remember, but who else was supposed to drop the same day as 50 in June?  I remember saying that mos def one of them was gonna get pushed back, but honest to God I didn't expect it to be 50.

I've been sayin it for a while, but to me, this really signifies the end of 50's reign.  He's still gonna go plat, but understand that this is major.

Bothz T.I. and Ja Rule, both pushed their album back too.

But yeah 3 months is fucking wierd. Soemthing fishy is going on.

I say again to 50, release a double disc with BISD concept and get the fuck aways from Interscope.
 

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« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2007, 03:29:49 AM »
The wierdest thing is how I am reading right now how hes gonna host a BET show for a week and how he was saying 2,3 days ago(!) on several interview how this album is great and how excited he is to release it. So, its not like this move was in the air for lets say 2,3 weeks, its like everything changed in a day or two.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2007, 03:36:45 AM »
good, later the better

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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2007, 03:58:47 AM »
The wierdest thing is how I am reading right now how hes gonna host a BET show for a week and how he was saying 2,3 days ago(!) on several interview how this album is great and how excited he is to release it. So, its not like this move was in the air for lets say 2,3 weeks, its like everything changed in a day or two.

He still says he's excited about it, isn't he? And how does him being in the media all the time indicate how this whole thing was a decision that was suddenly made? Is that because you think he might peak too soon, with the people being tired of him by the time his album drops? Because otherwise, I don't really see it.
 

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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2007, 04:18:23 AM »
No, because either hes a great actor or he had no idea that in 3 days everything will change. He was on TRL monday, BET black carper tuesday, did an interview for MTV on tuesday, so were talking 2,3 days before the move was made. And when he was on those shows all he talked about was how great the cd is, how excited he is to release it, said the song with Robin Thicke will premier in a week, was an attention whore and kept saying "Curtis, June 26th." And thats why its strange and indicates that he had no idea this will happen till maybe wednesday, thursday and that something big must have happened, as opposed to them thinking about it for lets say, past 2,3 weeks.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2007, 05:08:12 AM »
I think it's 'cause of lack of buzz. Yes, it's true that 50's been on everything lately - TV, magazines, the water deal, the videos - but I don't see people buying into it. Things aren't popping off like they were when the Massacre was coming out, and sure as hell not like when GRODT was coming out. On both of those occasions 50 was on every media outlet AND the people were talking about him. Now it seems that 50's on every media outlet again, but nobody seems to give a fuck. The only conversation I've witnessed about 50's new shit has been on this forum.

For sure, at least, that's how it is on this side of the Atlantic. Nobody's giving a fuck about 50 here. I haven't even seen the videos on MTV here yet.

Plus, the singles are crap, so there's no help from that side either.