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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2007, 05:57:38 AM »

With both of his singles falling off the top 100 is this a smart thing to do? Anybody else think this could be a negotiating tactic by Iovine after that Warner Bros info came out?

I didn't see that question when I initially posted.  That's an interesting point though.  However, I do think the writing was on the wall, and this was inevitable.  Sales-wise, everything G-Unit put out sold less and less.  Damn near everything that they've put out has been basically forgotten about within a couple weeks.  The quality hasn't been there, almost every release has been pushed back, and some artists that got a nice push from 50 never even saw the light of day (Olivia).  Everything they put out was so gimmicky and formulaic and it eventually caught up to them.

I really think it's a product of all of that.  50 has gotten more and more desperate to keep his name out there.  And more gimmicks - releasing what, 4 singles within like 2 weeks of each other or something?  It's like his plan was to throw 4 different songs out there to try and cater to 4 markets, hoping that one of them would take off.  Well so far that has worked horribly because even if he ends up w/ 1 of those 4 doing somewhat well, you still have the fact that at least the 1st 2 haven't charted well at all, or even fallen off the charts already.  So he's failed off top right there.

For the most part, 50 has made stupid music career moves pretty much ever since GRODT.  I've still never bought into the hype of him being this great businessman.  He's got the money to hire smart ass business people which has obviously worked out well for him.  But when you look at the decisions he's made as far as the music business over the last few years, I'd say they were questionable at best.  He fucked up because he started believing his own hype - he thought he could oversaturate the market and people wouldn't get tired of his schtick.  That's fundamental business acumen right there and he was oblivious to it.

Damn kinda went on a rant there...but shit having said all that I don't believe Jimmy SOLELY pushed it back as a negotiating tactic, but if you don't think that played a roll you better ax somebody.  Jimmy is a true businessman and wouldn't be at the level he is at if he wasn't a shrewd motherfucker.
 

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2007, 08:49:09 AM »
But the thing is nobody is selling shit. From the begginning of 06, the only artists who are actually happy with their sales are probably Jay-Z, Ludacris and T.I., and even Jay and Luda probably expected more, so that leaves with T.I. being the only rapper who did what he wanted to, if not even more. So its funny how people keep talking about this GUnit theories about them not doint their old numbers. I guess they had it coming, sicne they couldnt stop braging about them but you have to look past that and be realistic.

I think that the main problem is 50s obssesion with sales. He would kill himself if he "only" did 2,3 mill, he wants to do 5x plat again.
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2007, 06:15:35 PM »
1) I've been MIA on the forum just under a month and I didn't

a) hear any of his singles

b)hear any one talk about 50

c) hear anyone bump 50

d) wasn't sure if STTB had been released anywhere but dubcnn

actually, i'm still not sure what's been released and what hasn't

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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2007, 06:48:14 PM »
1) I've been MIA on the forum just under a month and I didn't

a) hear any of his singles

b)hear any one talk about 50

c) hear anyone bump 50

d) wasn't sure if STTB had been released anywhere but dubcnn

actually, i'm still not sure what's been released and what hasn't

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« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2007, 10:20:02 PM »
Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.

Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped +  the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.


Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal. He started running his mouth too soon.

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2007, 02:03:35 AM »
Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.

Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped +  the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.


Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal. He started running his mouth too soon.

Get his dick out your mouth i'm sick of coming here & seeing your continous exageration of 50 Cent's success & impact & his future while down playing Game & others. Be objective instead of dick riding

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2007, 02:37:47 AM »
also, let me be the first to say

1) the album that was gonna be released at the end of June is NOT the album we will hear in september

2) The album that was gonna be released in June will be bootlegged by the time the final version comes out in sept.

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« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2007, 02:45:11 AM »
^^ Yep and jugding by those snippets, it didnt sound to promising, so maybe in the end its actually a good thing. I really hope he releases an double LP with BISD concept, becasue that 4th Feb date for it, is now unrealistic, and gets off Interscope.

Heres what was posted on American Idol site, probably just BS:

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KELLY VS 50 Cent?
Secrets behind the label doors

It would not have been the first time the two have gone against each other. In 2005, they both had high selling albums of almost 5 million units in the US alone. Clive Davis (one of the music industries most powerful people) is very dissatisfied with Kelly's new album, and he feels it does not contain any radio strong hits. Her first single "Never Again" has been performing very weekly on the radio. On the American Idol 6 finale, he shot some subliminal jabs in his speech about how Carrie Underwood (last years winner) is doing better in sales and on the charts. The album was supposed to release in July, but since the first single is under performing, the album was bumped up to June 26...the same day as millionaire rapper 50 Cent. Inside sources have revealed that even though 50's album was finalized, mixed, and mastered earlier this week, 50 would like to work on a few more songs...but that is not it. Execs working with Clive Davis have confirmed that he and 50 Cent had a meeting in person this week. What happened in that meeting is not fully known at the time, but the Execs are almost positive that Clive offered a few millions of dollars for the push back of his junior album Curtis. More on this story as it uncovers.

Source: Idol Generator News
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2007, 02:47:42 AM »
so what were the 4 singles and who produced 'em TTK? all I heard was hearsay, what's the real

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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2007, 03:04:28 AM »
2 got released so far:

Straight To The Bank (produced by Ty Fyfe)
Amusement Park (produced by Dangerous LLC)
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Follow My Lead feat. Robin Thicke (produced by The Bizness) was planned to premier this Tuesday
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Re: 50's New Album Pushed back to SEPTEMBER
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2007, 09:38:45 AM »
^^ Yep and jugding by those snippets, it didnt sound to promising, so maybe in the end its actually a good thing. I really hope he releases an double LP with BISD concept, becasue that 4th Feb date for it, is now unrealistic, and gets off Interscope.

Heres what was posted on American Idol site, probably just BS:

7:35 PM EST
KELLY VS 50 Cent?
Secrets behind the label doors

It would not have been the first time the two have gone against each other. In 2005, they both had high selling albums of almost 5 million units in the US alone. Clive Davis (one of the music industries most powerful people) is very dissatisfied with Kelly's new album, and he feels it does not contain any radio strong hits. Her first single "Never Again" has been performing very weekly on the radio. On the American Idol 6 finale, he shot some subliminal jabs in his speech about how Carrie Underwood (last years winner) is doing better in sales and on the charts. The album was supposed to release in July, but since the first single is under performing, the album was bumped up to June 26...the same day as millionaire rapper 50 Cent. Inside sources have revealed that even though 50's album was finalized, mixed, and mastered earlier this week, 50 would like to work on a few more songs...but that is not it. Execs working with Clive Davis have confirmed that he and 50 Cent had a meeting in person this week. What happened in that meeting is not fully known at the time, but the Execs are almost positive that Clive offered a few millions of dollars for the push back of his junior album Curtis. More on this story as it uncovers.

Source: Idol Generator News



LMFAO - Complete Bullshit.  Shoulda known that the spin would start coming.  Now it's 50 getting paid off by rival record labels to push his album back 3 months?  There's no way in hell that Interscope is gonna push back their biggest release of the year in the midst of this HUGE marketing barrage because another label offered 50 a few million dollars.  That's retarded.

IF 50 met w/ Clive Davis, I'm sure it was a discussion to see if 50 would possibly sign w/ his label.  That might actually make sense in light of everything going on.
 

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« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2007, 11:28:55 AM »
is come and go available to us in cdq yet?

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« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2007, 11:30:29 AM »
is come and go available to us in cdq yet?

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nope

that clive davis story is comedic just as jrome said :D
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« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2007, 08:03:32 PM »
when was the last time any artist related to aftermath actually got their album out following a good buzz (single) at the right time. whenever a good single is released an album is not forthcoming soon enough to capatalise on sales and usually when albums are being dropped the singles at that time aren't getting enough spins (mainly due to being sub standard)...its laughable...