Author Topic: Jun 21 -Konartis (D12) a.k.a Mr. Porter says he hasn't talk to Eminem in months  (Read 287 times)


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The Detroit News features a story on Denaun Porter and his new website in today’s edition. The story doesn’t cover anything about the site that already hasn’t been said (see related articles below), but it has some interesting D12 and Eminem information along with some future projects.

D12 is’ currently “on hold,” he says. Their forthcoming third album is 70 percent done, by his estimation, but so far boasts no input or content from Eminem, whom Porter says he hasn’t spoken with in some time.

“The last time I talked to him? I don’t even remember. It’s been a couple of months,” he says.

The D12 album will be finished after Eminem’s next album - rumored to be awaiting a holiday release - is finished. In the interim, Porter worked on Pharaohe Monch’s upcoming album, as well as projects by Detroit rapper Guilty Simpson and Detroit/New Jersey duo Nu World Hustle.

But Porter also is keeping his eye on the ‘Net, and plans to unveil a Web site similar to next month, this time with the goal of helping budding producers.



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D-12 definetly won't work without Proof anyways. They all should form other groups or do their own thing IMO.


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Proof will definitely be missed, but I consider Kuniva, Swift and Kon Artis to all be under-rated rappers. Bizzare is, well, Bizarre. An album from these four could at the very least deliver some cool tracks, in my opinion.

However, that sucks about Eminem's lack of involvement thus far. Shady/Aftermath certainly doesn't give off the same "unified" front these days...
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^ Whoa, I swear you just sounded like Busta Rhymes.

I don't get why Em would do that, he doesn't seem like that type of dude, to leave his people behind like that.


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Weird of Em not to talk to dude. He's either deeply into some project or just secluded himself from all business for the time being.


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Um, somebody is bs-ing:

Earlier this morning, Eminem was live on Detroit's WKQI Channel 9-5-5 radio station talking about a number of topics. I will try to get the mp3 later this week.


1 year (tomorrow) of Proof's death: Em talked about how recording this album has been very different and the mood has changed quite a bit. He said he visits Proofs grave several times a month and he wish he could go more, but he is quite busy. Also said that the album title and release date are not true and that the album won't be out earlier than August with a single in June. Also stated that Proof will be heavily featured on the album and this will be the final D12 album.

The loop echoes through the house, wafting from the furnished basement studio to the first-floor foyer. It's a dirty beat, foreboding and gritty. Upstairs, platinum records and a personalized, signed photo of 50 Cent hang on white walls. The home and the beat belong to Denaun Porter, who first gained fame as a member of platinum-selling group D12. Both a producer and an MC, he's evolving as an industry force behind the board. Porter, who has long contributed to Dr. Dre's storied vault and Eminem's arsenal, is branching out as executive producer of Pharaohe Monch's new album and taking on the weight of an expanded roll on the upcoming D12 record due for release later this year. Fans know him as Kon Artis — his MC identity — but under Mr. Porter, his production name, he is upping his game.

In the basement of this quiet, unassuming suburban street, 20 miles northwest of Motown, a piece of Detroit hip-hop history takes shape — D12's next record, the first album made without a cornerstone of its group, Deshaun Proof Holden, who was killed during a bar fight in April 2006. Here in Porter's studio, it's the winter season, the beginning of a new year, and the music goes on. But it's been a roller-coaster year for Detroit hip-hop and those who live by its code, starting with the death of one of Porter's early mentors last year, J Dilla.

Over the past several years, Porter has developed into one of hip-hop's well-versed producers, an understudy to Dr. Dre and J Dilla. “From Eminem to Dilla to Dr. Dre, I got the best teachers you can have,” he says.

Today, Porter is diligently at work with Guilty Simpson, a Detroit MC signed to Stones Throw Records and a longtime D12 contributor. As Porter levels out the beat, Simpson furiously writes to Porter's loop. “I made a beat two, three weeks ago on an MPC4000 and used a Minimoog. It's an irritating sound with some hard-ass drums, and I heard his voice over it,” Porter explains.

But Simpson's voice requires dynamic guidance to keep up the intrigue throughout a song. “What I have to watch for with him is that he has a monotone voice, like Ice Cube. If you start low [dynamically], you can get higher, instead of starting high,” he says. “You hold back.”

Porter doesn't use layering as a dynamic tool for Simpson, though. “I don't have to have Guilty do five vocals,” he says. “He got a strong-ass voice, so it sits right in the middle. [Instead], I've got to get him to inflate certain words differently. If you've got a straight line, people want to hear the inflection in the song, especially if your mood is changing. So by the time he gets to the punch line, the things leading up to the punch line don't get boring.”

At the helm of his self-described sonic spaceship, Porter sits behind the controls facing Guilty, and two Macintosh screens stare back at him with Pro Tools 7 and Scribble and Plogue Bidule soft synths. “I wanted it to look like you're flying a ship,” he says. “I turn to the left front, and it's the screen and Pro Tools. Then right in front of me is my drum machine and the keyboards to the right. On the left is the sampler and turntable. If you're standing in a certain place, the south is always behind you; it's the ground root. The north is where you're going. That's the energy, that's the focus.”

Satisfied with the beat's basic structure, Porter leaves Simpson to brainstorm and climbs the stairs, filling up the corner of the white L-shaped leather couch. Porter is a big man, but he is soft-spoken and reflective, and he articulates his thoughts with deliberate and studied measure. He fingers a tattoo on his right forearm, a look of bewilderment on his face. He explains how yesterday the tattoo, which has been on his arm for years, flared up. It was the birthday of Bugz, the first member of D12 to lose his life just before the group broke out with Eminem and became superstars in 1999, changing all of their lives.

Porter was already a skilled producer when the group found fame, always tinkering with technology. “I used to break TVs and put them back together.” He began producing almost 10 years ago: “The first piece of gear I worked off was an ASR-10 rackmount. I was working at Mo Master's Studio. He would leave the room and let me figure it out on my own. I learned to do that until I understood the actual sampling and MIDI.”

Influenced by his surroundings, Porter gravitated toward the Hip Hop Shop, a Detroit record store owned by designer Maurice Malone where hip-hop luminaries set the standard — J Dilla, Slum Village and the open-mic host Proof. Here, Porter honed his lyrical skills but also developed his ear for production. “I started with Proof and then Eminem,” he remembers. “He would show me the syllables, and when it came to putting beats together, I showed him shit. I would ride beats differently than he did. I was like, ‘You rap too fast. Slow down.’ When I started producing for him, I said, ‘I'm going to give you some beats that are not regular shit.’”

In the tradition of Detroit producers, lack of gear sharpened his focus. “When I made a beat, I had to make the drums all the way through. I was like a one-man band. I knew sampling was shameless in the Hip Hop Shop. Everybody was chopping. You had to make that chop perfect every bar. But I never use timing to this day. I use a sequencer to keep the loop. And I don't time snares, I don't time hi-hats, I don't quantize.”

A distinct style is crucial to Porter. “You don't want to sound like your teachers; then they're not going to be interested,” he says. “If I hear something that sounds like the same thing I did before, I just scratch that because I think that's unfair to my brain, so I've got to interpret that every time.”

As executive producer on Pharaohe Monch's new album, Desire (SRC, 2007), Porter went the extra mile to be creative while still aiming for Monch's '70s soul-influenced style. “I took mics and put them outside while it was raining,” he says. “We didn't use sound effects; we made them. We had to do it on another day to get the birds. A regular person would be getting these from a CD, but the difference — I'm telling you — it sounds so great. That song didn't even make the album.”

On his contributions, “Anger,” “Cops Comin',” “Revenge” and “Gun Draw,” he was conscious, even in the early stages, of how all the parts were gelling together. “I might have [Monch] say this line over so that it will fit in the pocket because by the time those frequencies appear and I get to mixing, I hear it a certain way. I can tell if I'm going to be able to get it clear by listening to the frequency. Dre taught me to mix along the way. If you mix it along the way, you don't have that problem. It's already done.”

While the absence of Proof is marked for D12, Porter is determined not to use this loss in an opportunistic way, and the sensitivity of the material is being approached gingerly by D12's members — Kuniva, Swifty McVay, Bizarre, Eminem and DJ Salam Wreck. “We ain't got to that point yet,” he says. Emotional release has come out in sporadic studio sessions, but nothing intended for public consumption. “We recorded some records you'll never hear because there was a lot of anger going on in the studio.”

Things are steadily moving forward, with five completed tracks slated for release when Eminem signs off on the project, but Porter is guiding the album's direction. “I applied the Juan Atkins techno thing,” Porter says. “We did a joint called ‘Zoned Out’ that is Detroit all the way.” He describes the song as a “jit” song, a style of music designed for a popular club dance in Detroit. “When I made it, I wanted to do something that Proof would have wanted. We was always talking about doing a jit song.” D12 still uses its signature sardonic humor, exemplified on the tawdry “Bugzshit” and a Swizz Beatz-produced “I Got Me an Ugly Bitch.” “That's classic D12,” he says. “Battlecat gave me a record that's got Nate Dogg sounding like a totally new man,” he says about “Out the Box.” “We've always been outside of the box, and then people put us on an island of our own.”

Despite the pressure to make a record without Proof, Porter is primed. “I'm standing up to every ounce of pressure. Sonically, it's going to be one of the best D12 records. It's been Eminem-driven for so long, and I wanted to step away from that. It's a shame that my label didn't use me the way I should have been used. In light of my friend passing, I'm not here to try and impress them. I'm not here to sit quiet and let days go by. That's the Eminem Show; that's not the Denaun show. He worked hard to get that, but it's time for me to step outside of that. That they trust me is a great thing. I'll be glad when it's over with. After I'm done, there won't be no more. We friends, but it's political; it ain't no fun. I don't think it's bad to say — it's just honest. Even before what happened to Proof, it wasn't fun.”

A mixtape is in the works, but Porter is primarily focused on refining his studio skills. “If I got a hook, I'll make the hook, sing the hook, write a beat around the hook, present the song to the artist,” he says. “I'll make the drums and chop the drums. I make drums for every beat, whether I use it or not. I make drums because that's exercise.” Porter's filled up three hard drives with various combinations of drums. He studies '70s soul music — Marvin Gaye last month, now back to Stevie Wonder, Donny Hathaway and James Brown — for inspiration on background tones.

Sometimes he captures his own sound in tracks that get snatched up by others. “That Busta Rhymes song, that's my record: “They Out to Get Me.” I had made that record the first time I had seen a million dollars personally, seeing it on paper, in my hand,” he reminisces. “All of that [song] was live. My engineer plays guitar, and I did an 8-bar loop on the bass. I started with the melody of the guitar and went to the drums, and then I used a [Yamaha] Motif. Once we leveled things out, I started in the booth.”

Being tied to Dr. Dre's camp means working on projects that may never be released, though he will be spending a good chunk of the spring adding finesse to the long-awaited Detox album. “Being in the studio with Dre, he was teaching me without saying: ‘Don't talk about an idea; just do it.’”

Mr. Porter is focused on doing it, with renewed vigor for recording music. “I gotta stand on my own, too. I got a newfound energy.” With that, it's time to go back into the basement to finish the track.

D12 Update - New Song Inside Posted 4/4/2007 by Jason
Make sure and check out a new D12 song "Don't Hate" featuring King Gordy exclusively @, click here

D12 is currently in the studio in Detroit with Eminem.

Look for that new single coming soon!


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Mr Porter Production discography
Eminem - Infinite (1996)

Produced all tracks on album with Eminem as co-producer
Eminem - The Slim Shady EP (1997)

04. "Just Don't Give A Fuck"
10. "Just Don't Give A Fuck (Radio Edit)"
Bizarre - Attack Of The Weirdos EP (1998)

02. "What What"
D12 - Devil's Night (2001)

02. "Shit Can Happen"
09. "That's How", co-produced by Eminem
15. "Obie Trice (Skit)"
Outsidaz - The Bricks (2001)

06. "State To State"
Various Artists - Music From And Inspired By The Motion Picture 8 Mile (2002)

06. "Rap Game", performed by D12 & 50 Cent, produced along with Eminem
08. "Spit Shine", performed by Xzibit
13. "R.A.K.I.M.", performed by Rakim
Busta Rhymes - It Ain't Safe No More (2002)

13. "Riot"
Xzibit - Man Vs. Machine (2002)

02. "Multiply"
G-Unit - Beg For Mercy (2003)

05. "Stunt 101"
Obie Trice - Cheers (2003)

11. "Spread Yo Shit"
Various Artists - Ras Kass Presents... Re-Up (The Compilation) (2003)

06. "Bend A Corner", performed by Kon Artis & Ras Kass
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)

11. "P.I.M.P."
D12 - D12 World (2004)

04. "I'll Be Damned"
07. "U R The One"
17. "Commercial Break"
20. "Good Die Young"
Proof - I Miss the Hip Hop Shop (2004)

13. "You Know How 2"
Rohff - La Fierté Des Nôtres (2004)

2-11. "94"
D12 - My Band [Single] (2004)

02. "B.N.U."
Young Buck - Straight Outta Ca$hville (2004)

04. "Look At Me Now"
Method Man - Tical 0: The Prequel (2004)

06. "We Some Dogs"
16. "Crooked Letter I"
Xzibit - Weapons of Mass Destruction (2004)

10. "Ride Or Die", produced along with Jonathan "J.R." Rotem
Snoop Dogg - R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece (2004)

13. "Promise I"
DJ Kay Slay - The Streetsweeper Vol. 2: The Pain From The Game (2004)

15. "Census Bureau", performed by D12, co-produced by Eminem & Luis Resto
Black Rob - The Black Rob Report (2005)

05. "She's A Pro"
Lil' Kim - The Naked Truth (2005)

07. "Slippin"
Various Artists - Anger Management 3 [Mixtape] (2005)

13. "Stay Bout It", performed by Obie Trice & Stat Quo
32. "Onions For Sale", performed by Runyon Ave. Soldiers, Young Who & Ill
Cuban Link - Chain Reaction (2005)

08. "Tonight's The Night"
Bizarre - Hannicap Circus (2005)

04. "F*** Your Life"
12. "Porno Bitches" feat. Devin the Dude and Big Boi (of Outkast)
20. "Nuthin' At All"
Proof - Searching for Jerry Garcia (2005)

19. "Slum Elementz"
Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang (2006)

12. "They're Out to Get Me" feat Mr. Porter
Method Man - 4:21...The Day After (2006)
09. "Let's Ride"
The Game - The Doctor's Advocate (2006)

15. "Around The World" feat. Jamie Foxx
Monica Blaire - Portraits Of Me (2006)

10. "Get Back"
Snoop Dogg - The Blue Carpet Treatment (2006)

18. "Beat Up On Yo Pads", produced along with DJ DDT-Da Busta
Co-Scored Waist Deep - Major Motion Picture (2006)

Beyonce Featuring Shakira - Beautiful Liar (2007)

+ Additional Programming"
02. "Trifflin'"
Co-Produced & Executive Produced: Pharoahe Monch - Desire (2007)

07. "When The Gun Draws"
13. "The Trilogy"


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D12 was incredible back in the day.  Everything they came out with from 99 to 2001 was fire.  Even all their little bootleg stuff and rare stuff like Bizzare's "Attack of the Wierdo's" was blazing!   Their first album deserved to sell like 5 million copies, I don't know why it only sold 2.   


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"I didn't do nothing but make people money and I didn't leave nobody high and dry.  Any album (on death row) people are going to check for.  But it's time for Dre to worry about Dre.  I'm focused on the new Snoop Doggs, not like that but you know what I mean."

Dre -  Source 1996 cover

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Em should focus at re-becoming himself and rip the mic like it was 99-00.. who gives a fuck about a D-12 album.. Devils Night was aight, D12 World was just horrible