Question About Lloyd Banks "The Big Withdraw" CD/Mixtape

[Lunatic]

I'm sure we all know the story behind this record...Just listening 2 this right now, and I think it is pretty clear that this was FAR from being completely finished...No way he was gonna put 23 tracks on an album for starters...

Does anybody know if the mixing was completed on this? because i'm finding the production to be pretty weak

[Tha Crip]

it wasnt mixed and mastered.......i actually find more then a few of the songs to have great production.. you can tell Nottz did some beats and they were wicked these songs had the best production imo, Nottz and Banks had done work before...the original Im So Fly was produced by Nottz but they couldnt clear the sample so Timbaland was brought to remix it into the version we know now.

 - Intro -  (cool beat, woulda made a good intro)
 - Nobody Believes Me (definately a Nottz beat, and a hot one at that)
 - Why We Waitin' (this one sounds like Nottz too)
 - When I Was Down (this was definately produced by Alchemist, his signature sounds and drums)
 - Victim of Society (not too sure who coulda did this but it was definately bangin)
 - Whip Pussy (again dont know who did it but was a hot ass beat)
 - Everywhere You Go (another hot ass beat i cant tell who woulda did it tho)

i did my own lil remastering of these tracks...imo all these tracks blow alot of the beats that made the final album out of the water, now all these beats woulda prolly sounded even more bangin had they been mixed and mastered, these tracks should have definately replaced, "Playboy 2" "Make a Move" "Addicted"

[Lunatic]

it wasnt mixed and mastered.......i actually find more then a few of the songs to have great production.. you can tell Nottz did some beats and they were wicked these songs had the best production imo, Nottz and Banks had done work before...the original Im So Fly was produced by Nottz but they couldnt clear the sample so Timbaland was brought to remix it into the version we know now.

 - Intro - wicked beat (woulda made a good intro)
 - Nobody Believes Me (definately a Nottz beat, and a hot one at that)
 - Why We Waitin' (this one sounds like Nottz too)
 - When I Was Down (this was definately produced by Alchemist, his signature sounds and drums)
 - Victim of Society (not too sure who coulda did this but it was definately bangin)
 - Whip Pussy (again dont know who did it but was a hot ass beat)

now all these beats woulda prolly sounded even more bangin had they been mixed and mastered

intro beat was cool
nobody believes me was "mehh"
ain't heard why we waitin yet (thats #21, im on 17 currently)
same goes for when i was down
i liked victim of society
whip pussy was also "mehh"

i will say the beats sound like they could be of been great, but without being mixed and mastered, average is pretty much all it could be, unless Banks KILLS it lyrically

so far i like:

this is my hood
its simple aint it
turnin you into a customer
vicitm of society
if you aint holdin

[K.Dub]

Yeah, I got a folder named "The Big Withdraw (Advance) - 2005"
Was it suppose to be his sophmore?

Lunatic, Tha Crip - what are your tracklist(s) `?

[Lunatic]

Yeah, I got a folder named "The Big Withdraw (Advance) - 2005"
Was it suppose to be his sophmore?

Lunatic, Tha Crip - what are your tracklist(s) `?

yea that's the 1...it was kinda pose to be his sophmore, i HIGHLY doubt this was the final tracklist, yours got 23 tracks??

23 tracks

[K.Dub]

I got this

1. Lloyd Banks - The Wait is Over Intro (1:43)
2. Lloyd Banks - Whip Pussy (2:56)
3. Lloyd Banks - This is My Hood Ft Tony Yayo (3:15)
4. Lloyd Banks - A Lil Bit Colder (3:59)
5. Lloyd Banks - Its Simple Aint it Ft 50 Cent (3:03)
6. Lloyd Banks - Everywhere You Go (3:12)
7. Lloyd Banks - It Aint A Secret (Fat Joe D Block Game Diss) (4:31)
8. Lloyd Banks - 6 Figga Nigga (3:33)
9. Lloyd Banks - Gettin Money (3:23)
10. Lloyd Banks - Turnin U into A Customer (3:34)
11. Lloyd Banks - Victim of Society (4:33)
12. Lloyd Banks - In the Ground Wit Ya Niggaz (2:34)
13. Lloyd Banks - Nobody Believes Me (3:07)
14. Lloyd Banks - Yous A Ho (0:55)
15. Lloyd Banks - If You Aint Holdin (4:07)
16. Lloyd Banks - This is My Hood (3:14)
17. Lloyd Banks - Its Ok (3:07)
18. Lloyd Banks - Anotha Dolla (3:04)
19. Lloyd Banks - Without My Glock (3:45)
20. Lloyd Banks - Get Low (4:02)
21. Lloyd Banks - Why We Waitin (2:42)
22. Lloyd Banks - When I Was Down (3:01)
23. Lloyd Banks - Get the Fuck Up Now (3:36)

[Lunatic]

I got this

1. Lloyd Banks - The Wait is Over Intro (1:43)
2. Lloyd Banks - Whip Pussy (2:56)
3. Lloyd Banks - This is My Hood Ft Tony Yayo (3:15)
4. Lloyd Banks - A Lil Bit Colder (3:59)
5. Lloyd Banks - Its Simple Aint it Ft 50 Cent (3:03)
6. Lloyd Banks - Everywhere You Go (3:12)
7. Lloyd Banks - It Aint A Secret (Fat Joe D Block Game Diss) (4:31)
8. Lloyd Banks - 6 Figga Nigga (3:33)
9. Lloyd Banks - Gettin Money (3:23)
10. Lloyd Banks - Turnin U into A Customer (3:34)
11. Lloyd Banks - Victim of Society (4:33)
12. Lloyd Banks - In the Ground Wit Ya Niggaz (2:34)
13. Lloyd Banks - Nobody Believes Me (3:07)
14. Lloyd Banks - Yous A Ho (0:55)
15. Lloyd Banks - If You Aint Holdin (4:07)
16. Lloyd Banks - This is My Hood (3:14)
17. Lloyd Banks - Its Ok (3:07)
18. Lloyd Banks - Anotha Dolla (3:04)
19. Lloyd Banks - Without My Glock (3:45)
20. Lloyd Banks - Get Low (4:02)
21. Lloyd Banks - Why We Waitin (2:42)
22. Lloyd Banks - When I Was Down (3:01)
23. Lloyd Banks - Get the Fuck Up Now (3:36)

same