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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2007, 03:27:27 AM »
here you go

Tweedy bird loc - I'm Calling You A Bitch:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4437262cd275cf/
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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2007, 09:33:10 AM »
^^ damn that was quick.:D
thanks.

"mc lyte i wann fuck you too, you dyke-ass bitchez out there" lol.
the song is mad funny.
poor queen :-[ 8)
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Who was Eazy talking about in "Eazyer said than dunn" when he said how you gonna diss me you don't even know me.
He called him a toy too.

Not sure who he dissed.

Eazy-E - Eazy-er Said Than Dunn
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/XMSfzdI902g" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/XMSfzdI902g</a>

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TOY: Inexperienced or incompetent writer.
http://www.at149st.com/glossary.html

BG Knockout & Dresta; No Respect 93.mp3 Snoop diss! unreleased.
http://www.mediafire.com/?am50dybnetb

Some shit Dre-Day hooked up;
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B.G & Dresta - DPG Killa(DPG/ death row diss):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580412ddd1655/
Eazy-E - Wut would u do (Dre/death row diss):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580333d581f17/
Eazy-E ft. BG K.O., Dresta & Sylk - Ole school shit(Dre/death row diss):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580488576cbe4/

Eazy E - Real Muthaphuckkin "G"s (explicit version) Dr.Dre and Snoop diss.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/9m3ipumGA1s" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/9m3ipumGA1s</a>

Tha Dogg Pound - What Would You Do Diss to BG Knocc out and Dresta! CLASSIC  :firedevil:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2pvR48FvXy4&amp;rel" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/2pvR48FvXy4&amp;rel</a>
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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2007, 02:02:01 PM »
that what would you do track is so dope  8)
but in general, most of these ruthless disses by death row weren't that hard imo, because the instrumentals are basically party tunes(besides, what would you do was only a minor diss compared to what BG&Dresta did).
i mean, fuck with dre day would be a much better diss track if the instrumental wasn't a party tune ( don't get me wrong, i love g-funk, it's just that smooth/laid back beats and diss tracks don't fit well imo; besides, death row also has had some dark g-funk tracks).
i mean, DPG killa, Wut would u do, Real, Muthaphuckkin "G"s had darker beats and that's why it worked out better for the disses ( not that the lyrical content was better than the death row disses; ruthless artists dissed death row more than death row did to ruthless though).

the Dre-day video is quite hilarious though, especially the intro; that's one of the reason why i still think it's a good diss track. but dre & snoop would sound more raw over a darker beat ( the deep cover/the day the niggas took over/a nigga with a gun type of beats) ;)

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2007, 03:28:19 PM »
that what would you do track is so dope  8)
but in general, most of these ruthless disses by death row weren't that hard imo, because the instrumentals are basically party tunes(besides, what would you do was only a minor diss compared to what BG&Dresta did).
i mean, fuck with dre day would be a much better diss track if the instrumental wasn't a party tune
(don't get me wrong, i love g-funk, it's just that smooth/laid back beats and diss tracks don't fit well imo; besides, death row also has had some dark g-funk tracks).
i mean, DPG killa, Wut would u do, Real, Muthaphuckkin "G"s had darker beats and that's why it worked out better for the disses
(not that the lyrical content was better than the death row disses; ruthless artists dissed death row more than death row did to ruthless though).

the Dre-day video is quite hilarious though, especially the intro; that's one of the reason why i still think it's a good diss track. but dre & snoop would sound more raw over a darker beat (the deep cover/the day the niggas took over/a nigga with a gun type of beats) ;)



I agree 100%,thatīs why those disses wasnīt my first priority.
The DPG killa track is dope,damn I have lost that album need to look for it online.
Upload that track for the sake of the thread and any other diss tracks would be appriciated too.
I will add more beefs,but will try to keep it as West Coast related as possible.
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2007, 12:14:00 PM »
sure,
B.G & Dresta - DPG Killa(DPG/ death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580412ddd1655/

Eazy-E - Wut would u do (Dre/death row diss):  http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580333d581f17/

Eazy-E ft. BG K.O., Dresta & Sylk - Ole school shit(Dre/death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580488576cbe4/

to add a few  ;) but the whole death row-ruthless beef was obviously bullshit though; it started real serious with dre-day however.
 i'm not picking sides, but there must be some truth in the eazy-e diss ( i mean, ice cube also disses eazy-e because of money, and MC Ren wasn't getting along with Eazy-E for a while, because of similar reasons; even though he didn't leave the label. that's 3 out of 5 NWA members!).
i've read that book by Jerry Heller(R.I.P. Eazy-E), and offcourse Ice cube and Dre have exaggerated a bit, but the way Jerry talks about the D.O.C. , Dre and Ice Cube kinda disappointed me, i thought he would be more mature. that's why i rather believe what Dre, MC Ren, Ice Cube, and the D.O.C. said.
ironically, Eazy-E was the key to a NWA reunion, but that's another story  ;)


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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2007, 01:32:00 PM »
B.G & Dresta - DPG Killa(DPG/ death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580412ddd1655/
Eazy-E - Wut would u do (Dre/death row diss):  http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580333d581f17/
Eazy-E ft. BG K.O., Dresta & Sylk - Ole school shit(Dre/death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580488576cbe4/

Have added your hook upīs to the Death Row VS Ruthless beef post.
I like to have it all organized. All those tracks is fire.  :firedevil:

But the whole Death Row-Ruthless beef was obviously bullshit though; it started real serious with dre-day however.
I'm not picking sides,but there must be some truth in the eazy-e diss
(I mean,Ice Cube also disses eazy-e because of money,and MC Ren wasn't getting along with Eazy-E for a while,
because of similar reasons; even though he didn't leave the label. that's 3 out of 5 NWA members!).

Maybe Iīm crazy,but the way I see it is that Cube and Dre got jealous of Eazy.
Hey,he owned Ruthless,was a solo artist,a member of NWA and exucitive producer on all the records.
Why wouldnīt he be compensated for that?
Suge was hanging with The D.O.C (wasnīt he is bodyguard at one point?) and got in his ear,who lead to D.O.C getting in Dreīs ear.
Sugeīs divide and conquere plan worked,so what happent?
Dre got in a even worse sitiuation,and Dre still hasnīt learned. He still ainīt his own man.
Itīs a shame they didnīt work it out before it got out of hand,
I guess Suge bullshit mouth was more convincing than Eazyīs at the time.
Snoop and them was already around when they recorded Niggaz4Life,so they would naturally become a part of the Ruthless family.
The Ren issue wasnīt because of money,I posted some scans of a Source interview where he talk about this.
All them other cats stayed behind,only Cube,Dre,D.O.C and Michellé left. Above The Law,Kokane,Ren and Yella stayed so.....
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:

I've read that book by Jerry Heller(R.I.P. Eazy-E),and offcourse Ice cube and Dre have exaggerated a bit,
but the way Jerry talks about The D.O.C.,Dre and Ice Cube kinda disappointed me,I thought he would be more mature.
That's why i rather believe what Dre, MC Ren, Ice Cube, and the D.O.C. said.
Ironically, Eazy-E was the key to a NWA reunion,but that's another story  ;)

What did Jerry say?
Damn,got to look that book up on Amazon....
Ruthless: A Memoir

http://www.amazon.com/Ruthless-Memoir-Jerry-Heller/dp/1416917926/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1374017-3992708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193862640&sr=1-2


Thanx again for bringing some words to a thread.
 

ToOoOoN!!!

fuck i need to buy that book!
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2007, 02:14:51 PM »
Maybe Iīm crazy,but the way I see it is that Cube and Dre got jealous of Eazy.
Hey,he owned Ruthless,was a solo artist,a member of NWA and exucitive producer on all the records.
Why wouldnīt he be compensated for that?
Suge was hanging with The D.O.C (wasnīt he is bodyguard at one point?) and got in his ear,who lead to D.O.C getting in Dreīs ear.
Sugeīs divide and conquere plan worked,so what happent?
Dre got in a even worse sitiuation,and Dre still hasnīt learned. He still ainīt his own man.
Itīs a shame they didnīt work it out before it got out of hand,
I guess Suge bullshit mouth was more convincing than Eazyīs at the time.
Snoop and them was already around when they recorded Niggaz4Life,so they would naturally become a part of the Ruthless family.
The Ren issue wasnīt because of money,I posted some scans of a Source interview where he talk about this.
All them other cats stayed behind,only Cube,Dre,D.O.C and Michellé left. Above The Law,Kokane,Ren and Yella stayed so.....
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:
nah it's not so crazy, i guess you're right about the jealousy; Dre wanted to have his "own" label so badly that he forgot to use his brains lol(sometimes i ask myself, does dre like to be a puppet?).
and thanks for correcting me about MC Ren, i just thought that the "Ren issue" was also about money problems.

What did Jerry say?
Damn,got to look that book up on Amazon....
Ruthless: A Memoir

http://www.amazon.com/Ruthless-Memoir-Jerry-Heller/dp/1416917926/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1374017-3992708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193862640&sr=1-2
well in the book,  he offcourse denied the claims by dre, ice cube, the d.o.c. but he also makes fun of them, and some of those jokes are on the level of the death row diss tracks by ruthless artists. i don't have a problem with jokes in a book, but when you write a book to pay tribute to somebody, i think these cheap shots should not be included. besides, some of these issues are outdated anyway; so there is no need to take any cheap shots. he actually talked about ice cube being beaten up by above the law, i mean why would you include such an incident if you want to pay tribute to Eazy-E?

he even did an attempt to rap, that was quite hilarious; he wrote a verse, which was basically a response to Ice Cube's No Vaseline.

you should buy the book if you really want to get a more inside look on ruthless records, Eazy-E, NWA and the issues with death row. there is also a chapter about Jerry's career before ruthless records however; that one wasn't really interesting imo, but the rest is.

Mygla

IMO it's wrong to say that Dre went from a bad deal to a worse deal... Financially, the deal he had with Death Row seems completely fine to me, probably creativly too... The problem was that Suge was a much more dominant person than Dre, and somehow he choked Dre's freedom during the years he spent at DR.

Oh, and I definately don't think Dre was a puppet at DR.... but he realized he could become one, so he left.

But at Interscope... that's another story...
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2007, 04:16:34 AM »
why was he a puppet?
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2007, 04:27:37 AM »
well financially it probably was 50-50 with suge, but suge really was the CEO, and that president title for dre didn't really mean anything. in the beginning of death row dre probably had some control, but he eventually lost it.

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2007, 05:21:11 AM »
What did Jerry say?
Damn,got to look that book up on Amazon....
Ruthless: A Memoir

http://www.amazon.com/Ruthless-Memoir-Jerry-Heller/dp/1416917926/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1374017-3992708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193862640&sr=1-2

Well in the book, he offcourse denied the claims by Dre,Ice Cube,The D.O.C. but he also makes fun of them,
and some of those jokes are on the level of the Death Row diss tracks by Ruthless artists.
I don't have a problem with jokes in a book, but when you write a book to pay tribute to somebody,
I think these cheap shots should not be included.
Besides,some of these issues are outdated anyway; so there is no need to take any cheap shots.
He actually talked about Ice Cube being beaten up by Above The Law,
I mean why would you include such an incident if you want to pay tribute to Eazy-E?

He even did an attempt to rap,that was quite hilarious; he wrote a verse, which was basically a response to Ice Cube's No Vaseline.


you should buy the book if you really want to get a more inside look on ruthless records, Eazy-E, NWA and the issues with death row. there is also a chapter about Jerry's career before ruthless records however; that one wasn't really interesting imo, but the rest is.

That didnīt sound profesional,thatīs more like a subjective gossip book.
All that shit is over years ago,so he should have left all that shit behind him,like the rest of them.
At least if itīs a tribute book to Eazy,if itīs behind the scenes of Ruthless he could still write that stuff but in a objective way.
But I guess he had a grudge over that No Vaseline track after all these years,ha,ha  :laugh:
You should scan that verse for us,that would make our weekend,ha,ha.


IMO it's wrong to say that Dre went from a bad deal to a worse deal...
Financially,the deal he had with Death Row seems completely fine to me, probably creativly too...
The problem was that Suge was a much more dominant person than Dre,
and somehow he choked Dre's freedom during the years he spent at DR.
Oh,and I definately don't think Dre was a puppet at DR.... but he realized he could become one, so he left.
But at Interscope... that's another story...

well financially it probably was 50-50 with Suge, but Suge really was the CEO,
and that President title for Dre didn't really mean anything.
In the beginning of Death Row Dre probably had some control,but he eventually lost it.

I didnīt say that Dre didnīt have a better financial sitiuation over at Death Row.
But other than that I think Dre had it better over at Ruthless,money ainīt everything.
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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2007, 06:01:13 AM »
didnīt say that Dre didnīt have a better financial sitiuation over at Death Row.
But other than that I think Dre had it better over at Ruthless,money ainīt everything.
Quote from: tusken RAIDEr - CEO of The Dangerous Crew Movement link=topic=152524.msg1637351#msg1637351
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:
by the way, my previous post wasn't a reply to yours, because we pretty much agreed with eachother before; i was replying to tha psycho hustla and mygla.






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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2007, 08:09:33 AM »
ok i fixed it; you may want to edit my quote as well, since it links to the old thumbnail. i resized the image and reuploaded it:



yeah Jerry is a real gangster  :laugh:
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