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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2007, 12:14:00 PM »
sure,
B.G & Dresta - DPG Killa(DPG/ death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580412ddd1655/

Eazy-E - Wut would u do (Dre/death row diss):  http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580333d581f17/

Eazy-E ft. BG K.O., Dresta & Sylk - Ole school shit(Dre/death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580488576cbe4/

to add a few  ;) but the whole death row-ruthless beef was obviously bullshit though; it started real serious with dre-day however.
 i'm not picking sides, but there must be some truth in the eazy-e diss ( i mean, ice cube also disses eazy-e because of money, and MC Ren wasn't getting along with Eazy-E for a while, because of similar reasons; even though he didn't leave the label. that's 3 out of 5 NWA members!).
i've read that book by Jerry Heller(R.I.P. Eazy-E), and offcourse Ice cube and Dre have exaggerated a bit, but the way Jerry talks about the D.O.C. , Dre and Ice Cube kinda disappointed me, i thought he would be more mature. that's why i rather believe what Dre, MC Ren, Ice Cube, and the D.O.C. said.
ironically, Eazy-E was the key to a NWA reunion, but that's another story  ;)


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« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2007, 01:32:00 PM »
B.G & Dresta - DPG Killa(DPG/ death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580412ddd1655/
Eazy-E - Wut would u do (Dre/death row diss):  http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580333d581f17/
Eazy-E ft. BG K.O., Dresta & Sylk - Ole school shit(Dre/death row diss): http://www.zshare.net/audio/4580488576cbe4/

Have added your hook upīs to the Death Row VS Ruthless beef post.
I like to have it all organized. All those tracks is fire.  :firedevil:

But the whole Death Row-Ruthless beef was obviously bullshit though; it started real serious with dre-day however.
I'm not picking sides,but there must be some truth in the eazy-e diss
(I mean,Ice Cube also disses eazy-e because of money,and MC Ren wasn't getting along with Eazy-E for a while,
because of similar reasons; even though he didn't leave the label. that's 3 out of 5 NWA members!).

Maybe Iīm crazy,but the way I see it is that Cube and Dre got jealous of Eazy.
Hey,he owned Ruthless,was a solo artist,a member of NWA and exucitive producer on all the records.
Why wouldnīt he be compensated for that?
Suge was hanging with The D.O.C (wasnīt he is bodyguard at one point?) and got in his ear,who lead to D.O.C getting in Dreīs ear.
Sugeīs divide and conquere plan worked,so what happent?
Dre got in a even worse sitiuation,and Dre still hasnīt learned. He still ainīt his own man.
Itīs a shame they didnīt work it out before it got out of hand,
I guess Suge bullshit mouth was more convincing than Eazyīs at the time.
Snoop and them was already around when they recorded Niggaz4Life,so they would naturally become a part of the Ruthless family.
The Ren issue wasnīt because of money,I posted some scans of a Source interview where he talk about this.
All them other cats stayed behind,only Cube,Dre,D.O.C and Michellé left. Above The Law,Kokane,Ren and Yella stayed so.....
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:

I've read that book by Jerry Heller(R.I.P. Eazy-E),and offcourse Ice cube and Dre have exaggerated a bit,
but the way Jerry talks about The D.O.C.,Dre and Ice Cube kinda disappointed me,I thought he would be more mature.
That's why i rather believe what Dre, MC Ren, Ice Cube, and the D.O.C. said.
Ironically, Eazy-E was the key to a NWA reunion,but that's another story  ;)

What did Jerry say?
Damn,got to look that book up on Amazon....
Ruthless: A Memoir

http://www.amazon.com/Ruthless-Memoir-Jerry-Heller/dp/1416917926/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1374017-3992708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193862640&sr=1-2


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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2007, 02:14:51 PM »
Maybe Iīm crazy,but the way I see it is that Cube and Dre got jealous of Eazy.
Hey,he owned Ruthless,was a solo artist,a member of NWA and exucitive producer on all the records.
Why wouldnīt he be compensated for that?
Suge was hanging with The D.O.C (wasnīt he is bodyguard at one point?) and got in his ear,who lead to D.O.C getting in Dreīs ear.
Sugeīs divide and conquere plan worked,so what happent?
Dre got in a even worse sitiuation,and Dre still hasnīt learned. He still ainīt his own man.
Itīs a shame they didnīt work it out before it got out of hand,
I guess Suge bullshit mouth was more convincing than Eazyīs at the time.
Snoop and them was already around when they recorded Niggaz4Life,so they would naturally become a part of the Ruthless family.
The Ren issue wasnīt because of money,I posted some scans of a Source interview where he talk about this.
All them other cats stayed behind,only Cube,Dre,D.O.C and Michellé left. Above The Law,Kokane,Ren and Yella stayed so.....
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:
nah it's not so crazy, i guess you're right about the jealousy; Dre wanted to have his "own" label so badly that he forgot to use his brains lol(sometimes i ask myself, does dre like to be a puppet?).
and thanks for correcting me about MC Ren, i just thought that the "Ren issue" was also about money problems.

What did Jerry say?
Damn,got to look that book up on Amazon....
Ruthless: A Memoir

http://www.amazon.com/Ruthless-Memoir-Jerry-Heller/dp/1416917926/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1374017-3992708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193862640&sr=1-2
well in the book,  he offcourse denied the claims by dre, ice cube, the d.o.c. but he also makes fun of them, and some of those jokes are on the level of the death row diss tracks by ruthless artists. i don't have a problem with jokes in a book, but when you write a book to pay tribute to somebody, i think these cheap shots should not be included. besides, some of these issues are outdated anyway; so there is no need to take any cheap shots. he actually talked about ice cube being beaten up by above the law, i mean why would you include such an incident if you want to pay tribute to Eazy-E?

he even did an attempt to rap, that was quite hilarious; he wrote a verse, which was basically a response to Ice Cube's No Vaseline.

you should buy the book if you really want to get a more inside look on ruthless records, Eazy-E, NWA and the issues with death row. there is also a chapter about Jerry's career before ruthless records however; that one wasn't really interesting imo, but the rest is.

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IMO it's wrong to say that Dre went from a bad deal to a worse deal... Financially, the deal he had with Death Row seems completely fine to me, probably creativly too... The problem was that Suge was a much more dominant person than Dre, and somehow he choked Dre's freedom during the years he spent at DR.

Oh, and I definately don't think Dre was a puppet at DR.... but he realized he could become one, so he left.

But at Interscope... that's another story...
 

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« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2007, 04:16:34 AM »
why was he a puppet?
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2007, 04:27:37 AM »
well financially it probably was 50-50 with suge, but suge really was the CEO, and that president title for dre didn't really mean anything. in the beginning of death row dre probably had some control, but he eventually lost it.

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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2007, 05:21:11 AM »
What did Jerry say?
Damn,got to look that book up on Amazon....
Ruthless: A Memoir

http://www.amazon.com/Ruthless-Memoir-Jerry-Heller/dp/1416917926/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-1374017-3992708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193862640&sr=1-2

Well in the book, he offcourse denied the claims by Dre,Ice Cube,The D.O.C. but he also makes fun of them,
and some of those jokes are on the level of the Death Row diss tracks by Ruthless artists.
I don't have a problem with jokes in a book, but when you write a book to pay tribute to somebody,
I think these cheap shots should not be included.
Besides,some of these issues are outdated anyway; so there is no need to take any cheap shots.
He actually talked about Ice Cube being beaten up by Above The Law,
I mean why would you include such an incident if you want to pay tribute to Eazy-E?

He even did an attempt to rap,that was quite hilarious; he wrote a verse, which was basically a response to Ice Cube's No Vaseline.


you should buy the book if you really want to get a more inside look on ruthless records, Eazy-E, NWA and the issues with death row. there is also a chapter about Jerry's career before ruthless records however; that one wasn't really interesting imo, but the rest is.

That didnīt sound profesional,thatīs more like a subjective gossip book.
All that shit is over years ago,so he should have left all that shit behind him,like the rest of them.
At least if itīs a tribute book to Eazy,if itīs behind the scenes of Ruthless he could still write that stuff but in a objective way.
But I guess he had a grudge over that No Vaseline track after all these years,ha,ha  :laugh:
You should scan that verse for us,that would make our weekend,ha,ha.


IMO it's wrong to say that Dre went from a bad deal to a worse deal...
Financially,the deal he had with Death Row seems completely fine to me, probably creativly too...
The problem was that Suge was a much more dominant person than Dre,
and somehow he choked Dre's freedom during the years he spent at DR.
Oh,and I definately don't think Dre was a puppet at DR.... but he realized he could become one, so he left.
But at Interscope... that's another story...

well financially it probably was 50-50 with Suge, but Suge really was the CEO,
and that President title for Dre didn't really mean anything.
In the beginning of Death Row Dre probably had some control,but he eventually lost it.

I didnīt say that Dre didnīt have a better financial sitiuation over at Death Row.
But other than that I think Dre had it better over at Ruthless,money ainīt everything.
Quote from: tusken RAIDEr - CEO of The Dangerous Crew Movement link=topic=152524.msg1637351#msg1637351
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2007, 06:01:13 AM »
didnīt say that Dre didnīt have a better financial sitiuation over at Death Row.
But other than that I think Dre had it better over at Ruthless,money ainīt everything.
Quote from: tusken RAIDEr - CEO of The Dangerous Crew Movement link=topic=152524.msg1637351#msg1637351
But thereīs always two sides to a story,and we wasnīt there personally so who are we to say what was going or not?  :laugh:
by the way, my previous post wasn't a reply to yours, because we pretty much agreed with eachother before; i was replying to tha psycho hustla and mygla.






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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2007, 08:09:33 AM »
ok i fixed it; you may want to edit my quote as well, since it links to the old thumbnail. i resized the image and reuploaded it:



yeah Jerry is a real gangster  :laugh:
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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2007, 10:47:02 AM »
^^ lol.
Jerry Heller. ::)
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2007, 11:57:44 AM »
Jacked this from;
EVERY track by The Riflemen?

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=158351.0;topicseen
Prop bloodmoney2007 in there for this track right here;
Riflez (Daz Diss) - Kurupt, Jayo Felony, 40 Glocc
kurupt jayo felony  40 glocc - riflez daz diss.mp3 - 4.96MB
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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2007, 04:17:11 PM »
;)  8)
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #63 on: November 04, 2007, 08:03:52 AM »
Beef article in XXL # 3 Dángelo cover.
Interview with KRS,MC Shan,B-Real,Cube,Tim Dog and Luniz




 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2007, 07:41:58 PM »
P.K.O. Tha Good, Tha Bad, Tha Mafia Đ 1996 Youngsta Records

13-san antonio ain't shit like compton.mp3 DJ Quik diss!
http://www.mediafire.com/?ex2w45dvtji
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2007, 08:24:08 PM »
Bobby Jimmy And The Critters - Roaches: The Beginning (Macola Record Co. - 1986)

02 New York Rapper.mp3 thsi track is HILARIOUS!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ajmswy1ydml

I cracked down when he made fun of Shante and Kurtis Blow,dude is CRAZY!!!!!
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2007, 08:40:38 PM »
The Sixxx District from Long Beach dissing Snoop and some others

G'z Up
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4845562f36e52a/

Their whole album is dope though.
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2007, 08:43:51 PM »
tweedy bird loc's second album no holds barred is fucking DOPE


he got on eazy and mc ren  BAD especially ren
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2007, 08:54:42 PM »
tweedy bird loc's second album no holds barred is fucking DOPE
he got on eazy and mc ren  BAD especially ren

You can find that track in a previous post.....

i have the cd

i thin kit's called they wanna be liek me or somethign thas how it gos tho

"why these niggaz wanna be like me i don't know and don't give a fuck"


wonder where tweedy bird loc is at now
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2007, 08:04:15 AM »
tweedy bird loc's second album no holds barred is fucking DOPE
he got on eazy and mc ren  BAD especially ren

You can find that track in a previous post.....

I have the cd
I thin kit's called they wanna be liek me or somethign thas how it gos tho
"why these niggaz wanna be like me i don't know and don't give a fuck"
wonder where tweedy bird loc is at now

Go back a couple of posts,Renīs respond to the diss is also posted in the same post.


lol i got it also
 

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« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2007, 06:25:59 AM »
The Dangerous Crew VS Pooh Man


The Dangerous Crew;

get in where you fit part 2 Pooh man Diss!
http://www.mediafire.com/?f1pgjmmxdst


Pooh-Man Judgement Day

07 Ant Banks Dis.m4a Ant Banks Diss!
http://www.mediafire.com/?fjtmyhyn1d4
08 Bring It 2' Em.m4a Ant Banks diss!
http://www.mediafire.com/?1xe2yxngltn
11 Studio Gangster.m4a Spice 1 Diss!
http://www.mediafire.com/?4qnczy1rm0t
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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2007, 06:45:54 AM »
btw, where iz pooh-man now?
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2007, 10:27:40 AM »
lol.
pac gave him props on "reppin 93" and he acted in "menace II society".
can some1 up some dope trizzacks by him?
 

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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2007, 05:11:12 PM »
I jacked this from;
N.O.T.S Nig*as Off The Street (AUDIO) (Quik, Hi-C, AMG, 2nd II None DISS) 1992
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=161006.msg1666583#msg1666583
From the 1992 album TRUE BLUE...

N.O.T.S  Nig*as Off The Street (Quik, Hi-C, AMG, 2nd II None DISS)   http://www.zshare.net/audio/5356077da3fc63/


^^^^^^Prop Moon Knight  ;)




I jacked this from;
OFTB I Ain't From Compton (AUDIO) (NWA Diss) 1992
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=161015.msg1666700#msg1666700
From the 1992 album Straight Up Watts...
OFTB   I Ain't From Compton (NWA Diss)   http://www.zshare.net/audio/53576098eb0318/


^^^^prop Moon Knight  ;)




I jacked this from;
DAZ Pistol Whip (KURUPT, JAYO FELONY, PETEY PABLO DISS + MORE) (MP3) Question ?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=161608.0

DAZ   Pistol Whip (KURUPT, JAYO FELONY, PETEY PABLO, ROSCOE, 40 GLOCC, KEITA ROCK, MOBB DEEP, ALCHEMIST DISS)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/54825116f45330/
Why at the end of the song does Daz diss the Alchemist ?
Was this because he had done beats for the Rifleman at the time ?

^^^^^^prop Moon Knight  ;)





I jacked this from;
DRU DOWN Mista Busta (MP3) (TOO SHORT DISS) 1996
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=161509.msg1671107#msg1671107
From the '96 album Can You Feel Me.
DRU DOWN   Mista Busta (TOO SHORT DISS)   http://www.zshare.net/audio/54589120123711/

ĻĻĻĻĻprop Moon Knight  ;)
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Re: The ultimate beef thread; NWA,WSC,DPG,Tim Dog and more *Diss Tracks inside*
« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2007, 11:28:37 AM »
Tim Dog interview Hip Hop Connection February 1992 NO.37



thanks for this, good read