When did hip hop go so soft?

[morbidenigma]

Nowadays all rappers coming out with 1-3 love songs on a cd, but u hardly ever hear a track going hard at these hoes. Back in time there was plenty of misogyny in hip hop, but nowadays u hardly having any tracks going at bitches except like the odd Snoop/DPG track.

[K.Dub]

Cause the labels want some songs appealing to the ladies

[Shallow]

Actually it went soft when the songs you speak of started getting popular in the first place. That bitch/rap is as soft as it gets.

On the new PE album Chuck D says it nicely on Long and Whining Road verse 3;

ONLY A PAWN IN THE GAME
CHASTISED FOR NAMIN NAMES
WHAT WAS SAID AND WHO SAID IT
ANTI NOTHING SO FORGET IT
TEARS OF RAGE LEFT A FRIEND
BLOWIN IN THE WIND
BUT TIME IS GOD
BEEN BACK FOR 10 years AND BLACK AGAIN
SOME OF THEM SAME CATS
HELP USHER IN GANGSTER RAP
DAMN OUR INTERVIEWS WERE BETTER THAN A LOTTA THEM ACTS.
PRAISED THE GANGSTA
JUST BECAUSE IT SOLD
WHILE CONSCIOUSNESS
WENT FROM PLATINUM TO GOLD
SEEN A NATION REDUCE FIGHT THE POWER TO GIN AND JUICE
SOME PEOPLE GAVE IT UP AND TURNED IT LOOSE.


Hip Hop's been soft for years.

[MontrealCity's Most]

around 97 with bad boy it started happenning

[everlast1986]

yeah I haven't heard a misogonystic hip hop song come out since ummmmmmmmm........ a week ago!!!!!!!!

[Traumatized]

What's so wrong about love songs? I don't think rappers are that different from normal people so why not make a song about an issue that concerns everybody. As long as they good I dont have any problem with love songs. Ever heard of Lupe's "Sunshine"?

[MontrealCity's Most]

Just evolved thats all.

[T-Dogg]

Soft love raps ain't nuthin' new. Westside Connection had that track "So Many Rappers In Love" almost 4 years ago, and it wasn't new then.

A good rap love song - nothing wrong with it. Like "All I Need" by Method Man. But those things are rarities. Most of the time those things slip into staright R&B, straight R&B. Soft, sappy and corny. And they always stand out on albums as something that doesn't really belong there. But at some point somebody realized the "bitch recrds" sell a lot of records and it's been a staple on almost every major release since.

[bobbo]

So Many Rappers In Love from westside connection was far from a soft love song

[Dubz]

when did hip hop fans become critics, too? if you dont like it, listen to a different genre.

[The Watcher]

didnt 2Pac say 'make music for the bitches, and the niggas will follow' ?

seems like it started back in 96 when he said that, and now everyone seems to be keeping with it

[GangstaBoogy]

around 97 with bad boy it started happenning

Yepp. Followed by Timbaland, then Ja Rule made it what it is.

[BANANAS]

around 1989, theres always been soft shit i dont know what yall are thinking. oh you mean when did it go so watered down? when rappers started gettin paid, and then became slaves, again. then again, whats the matter with making music about relationships, i know yall nerds dont have girlfriends but you gotta think about the average consumer

[MontrealCity's Most]

around 97 with bad boy it started happenning

Yepp. Followed by Timbaland, then Ja Rule made it what it is.

Its juts evolution realy it happened with rock too, i mean if yu dont like it dont listen to it thats how i see it. I dont like it myself so i listen to other shit.

[CaliKorleone]

didnt 2Pac say 'make music for the bitches, and the niggas will follow' ?

seems like it started back in 96 when he said that, and now everyone seems to be keeping with it

It started with LL Cool J's song I Need Love.