CLASSICS - THINK HARD

[ImmortalOne]

hellrazor, you are THE biggest fruit i swear gettin' all pissy pants about anthything negative about bone, in your eyez they can do no wrong...maybe they got long hair like him , but they ain't perfect...they aint' Jesus, at least tha7th knows reality

WTF?? When did I ever say they could do no wrong?? I think everything they did 97' and earlier is classic/near classic. Ive already admitted that they aint made a classic since, and the 3rd Mo Thug albums was garbage, Flesh's second solo was very average, The Collection Vol.2 was average, Layzie's album was very average, and BTNHresurrection was good but coulda been much better. I dont see how you can call that dickriding. But you act like Dre is the greatest thing ever. The mothafucka dont even write his own rhymes for godsake.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Layzies album is dope...Stop trying to un-sound like a dickrider...

[Don Jacob]

But you act like Dre is the greatest thing ever. The mothafucka dont even write his own rhymes for godsake.

ain't nobody say he was the best rapper, ain't no one think that on here ....we think he's the best producer though...and don't even front on that and say dj u-neek is better

[ImmortalOne]

Layzies album is dope...Stop trying to un-sound like a dickrider...

Layzie's album sucked ASS, except for a few songs. Its bullshit that you hate on AOW, but then turnaround and give phraise to to Layzie's album.

AOW is 38957459067983906985469029876698322659865444444444444444493290531973729867692298
754982753981366798317633-163-926523-97983168796318632169865329876253986532986298
73637 x better than Layzie's album........

[Don Jacob]

i think lazie bone's album was better than art of war too, don't hate hellrazor ...i dunno what's up with you man, you seriously are full of it....i seriously think your demon possessed...i guess that's becuase of the name...i think we need rev. dogg in here to cast out the evil spirits and exersice them demons. i guess as many times as you listen to all them bone cd's with all those "dark side" themes they kinda infest your mind

[ImmortalOne]

i think lazie bone's album was better than art of war too, don't hate hellrazor ...i dunno what's up with you man, you seriously are full of it....i seriously think your demon possessed...i guess that's becuase of the name...i think we need rev. dogg in here to cast out the evil spirits and exersice them demons. i guess as many times as you listen to all them bone cd's with all those "dark side" themes they kinda infest your mind

Layzie's album is NOWHERE near AOW, and thats A GENERAL CONSENSUS. Go to any board, Bone related or not, and 9 outta every 10 people will tell you that AOW kills Layzie's album. None of the Bone solo albums can touch AOW, and the only ones that are even close are Krayzie's album and Bizzy's second album. But even those cant fuck with AOW. I played Layzie's album for about 2 weeks, and now I rarely play it. AOW still gets solid rotation in my stereo though, even 4 years after its release. Matter of fact, EITHER disc [Disc 1 or Disc 2, take your pick] individually is better than Layzie's album. Layzie's album was very repetitive, and most of the songs sounded the same. Creepin, E.1999 Eternal, AOW, Flesh's first solo, Krayzie's solo, both of Bizzy's solos, the first 2 Mo Thug albums, and Collection Vol.1 all shit on Layzie's album. Only Flesh's second solo, Collection Vol.2, and the 3rd Mo Thug album were worse.

[Don Jacob]

do you like riding cock

[ImmortalOne]

do you like riding cock

Wow, what an intelligent post. I dont see how you can think Layzie's album is better than AOW. Funny thing is, I like about half the songs on his album, but the fact alone that its not even a group album almost automatically makes AOW better, and Lay coulda have came much nicer than he did. There were some standout songs like As The Rain, but the album lacked a concept and sounded just a bunch of songs thrown together. AOW was carefully worked on for almost a year, all the concept details were thought out, the production was better, and it was on this album were Bone matured lyrically.

Dont reply to this until you come up with something INTELLIGENT.

[Don Jacob]

how can you say they matured lyrically when more than half of the lyrics are mid 90's rap cliches??

[Cliftone_Santiago_909]

 I dont know..... I'm probably one of the only few people who thought Art Of War was pretty tight too. It was a lil more laid back.... but I can still listen to the whole cd without skipping ANY songs. There worst cd ever IMO was "BTNHResurrection".

 Art Of War aint Classic.... but it's still a tight album... definately not as bad as you make it sound. I thought it was better than Layzie's too. I still respect all your opinions though (ALOT of people didn't like it).....  I'm just sharing mines.

[RivieraIII]

nwa-straight outta compton
cypress hill-cypress hill
dr. dre- the chronic
nwa-niggaz 4 life
dr. dre-2001
outkast-Aquemini
outkast-Stankonia
2pac-makaveli donkilluminati....
2pac-all eyez on me
2pac-me against the world
snoop doggy dogg-doggystyle
xzibit-at the speed of life
tha dogg pound-dogg food
ice cube-amerikkkaz most wanted
ice cube-death certificate
eazy-e-eazy duz it
the d.o.c-no one can do it better
bone thugs-e 1999 eternal
biggie-ready to die
wu tang- 36 chambers
nas-illmatic
jay-z- reasonable doubt
ll cool j-radio
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Digital Underground: Sex Packets
Public Enemy: Apocalypse 91...The Enemy Strikes Black
The Beastie Boys: Paul's Boutique
beastie boys-check your head
tribe called quest-low end theory
tribe called quest-midnight merauders
de la soul-three feet and rising
epmd-strickly business
eric b and rakim-follow the leader
eric b and rakim-paid in full
ice t-original gangsta
afrika bombata-planet rock
public enemy-fear of a black planet
run dmc-raising hell
run dmc-rund dmc
boogie down productions-by all means neccasary
beastie boys-license to ill
slick rick-the great adventures of slick rick
murder was the case soundtrack
above the rim soundtrack
ice t-ice berg freedom of speach...just be careful what you say
warren g-regulate the g funk era
del tha funkee homosapian-i wish my brother george was here
too short-life is too short
above the law-black mafia life
friday soundtrack
gza-liquid swords
raekwon-only built 4 cuban linx
method man-tical
ll cool j-mama said knock you out
boogie down productions-criminal minded
kurupt -streetz iz a mutha
goodie mob-soul food
pete rock and c l smooth-Mecca and the Soul Brother
the pharcyde- Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
the fugees-the score
redman-what the? album
the roots-illadelph halflife
the roots-things fall apart
the roots -organix
dj quik-quik is da name
run dmc-king of rock
mobb deep-the infamous mobb deep
mobb deep-hell on earth
scareface-mr scarface is back
scarface-the diary
getoboys-we can't be stopped
2 live crew- as nasty as they want to be
ol' dirty bastard-return to the 36 chambers
kool keith-dr. octagonist
that one pm dawn album



that should cover it, if i missed any i would be suprised
*note no art of war*

DOG please, EVERYTHING can't be CLASSIC!!!! You have to distinguish between MASTERPIECES (excellent rap albums) and CLASSICS (excellent AND influential rap records). Now, OFF YOUR LIST should be:
Cypress Hill (ok)
Stankonia (masterpiece),
Xzibit; At The speed Of Life (good)
Dogg Food (masterpiece)
Ice Cube, Death Certificate (masterpiece)
Eazy Duz It (just because it launched NWA don't make it a classic)
DOC (masterpiece)
Bone Thugs; E Eternal (good)
LL Cool J; Radio (good)
Digital Underground; Sex Packets (good)
Beastie Boys; all albums are just OK
Eric B and Rakim; Follow The Leader (masterpiece)
Ice T.; Iceberg joint ("maybe")
Afrika Bambaata; Planet Rock (masterpiece)
Del Tha Funky Homosapien (come on, dog...)
Warren G Regulate (masterpiece)
Too Short; Life's too short (good)
Above Tha Law; Black Mafia Life (ok)
Friday Soundtrack (only ONE rap classic on it; we know which one...)
GZA; Liquid Swordz (dope)
Method Man, Tical (masterpiece)
Redman; What Thee Album (masterpiece)
The Roots (all albums masterpieces; never dropped ANY classic)
Kurupt, Streez (banging)
Pharcyde (good)
Goodie Mob, Soul Food (masterpiece)
DJ Quik, Quik is the Name (dope)
Run DMC, King of Rock (ok)
Scarface, Mr Scarface is back (dope)
2 Live Crew; Nasty as They Wanna Be (good)
ODB; Return to the 36 (masterpiece)
Kool Keith; Dr Octagon (whateva)
PM Dawn (you CANNOT be serious, dog...)

Here's MY LIST of definite HIP HOP CLASSICS so far:

DR DRE; The Chronic
DR DRE; 2001
Snoop; Doggystyle
NWA; Straight Outta Compton
NWA; Niggaz4Life
Ice Cube; Amerikkaz Most Wanted
Westside Connection; Bow Down
Mobb Deep; The Infamous + Hell On Earth
Talib Kweli & Hi Tek; Reflection Eternal (Train Of Thought)
BDP; Criminal Minded
KRS ONE; By All Means Necessary
Pete Rock & CL Smooth; Mecca and Soul Brother
Wu Tang Clan; Enta Da 36 Chambers
Raekwon; Only Built For Cuban Linx
Fugees, The Score
Lauryn Hill, Miseducation
Outkast, Aquemini
Scarface, The Diary
Scarface, the Last Of A Dying Breed (Y'all will see 1 day...)
EPMD; Strictly Business
Eric B & Rakim; Paid in Full
Biggie; Ready To Die
Jay Z; Reasonable Doubt
NAS; ILLMATIC
Tribe Called Quest; The Low End Theory
P.E. It Take A Nation Of Millions...
P.E. Fear Of A Black Planet
Slick Rick; The Great Aventures Of Slick Rick
Big Pun; Capital Punishment (don't sleep)
Above The Rim Sdtck
Murder Was The Case sdtrck
De La Soul; 3 Feet high And Rising
Big Daddy Kane; It's a Big Daddy Thing
Gangstarr: EVERY single Gangstarr album is CLASSIC
2PAC; Me Against The World + Makaveli + All Eyez On Me

"Forgotten" MASTERPIECES:

Bone Thugs; Art Of War
Ghostface Killah; Supreme Clientele (could be a classic one day)
Meth and Redman; Blackout
Nas; I Am (don't give 2 fucks what whoever says...)
Jay Z; Hard Knock Life + Dynasty (don't give a fuck neither...)
Naughty By Nature; Poverty's Paradise
DMX; Hell Is Hot... (could be a classic one day; it CHANGED the rap game fo' real)
Pete Rock & CL Smooth; The Main Ingredient
Outkast; Southerplayalistic... + Atliens
Eminem; The Marshall Mathers LP (let's be HONEST)
Wyclef, The Carnival
Scarface, The Untouchable
Kool G Rap; 1 or 2 albums up here
Common; Resurrection

I may have forgotten a couple of "forgotten masterpieces" but my CLASSICS list is final (hopefully).
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[Don Jacob]

DOG please, EVERYTHING can't be CLASSIC!!!! You have to distinguish between MASTERPIECES (excellent rap albums) and CLASSICS (excellent AND influential rap records). Now, OFF YOUR LIST should be:
Cypress Hill (ok)
Stankonia (masterpiece),
Xzibit; At The speed Of Life (good)
Dogg Food (masterpiece)
Ice Cube, Death Certificate (masterpiece)
Eazy Duz It (just because it launched NWA don't make it a classic)
DOC (masterpiece)
Bone Thugs; E Eternal (good)
LL Cool J; Radio (good)
Digital Underground; Sex Packets (good)
Beastie Boys; all albums are just OK
Eric B and Rakim; Follow The Leader (masterpiece)
Ice T.; Iceberg joint ("maybe")
Afrika Bambaata; Planet Rock (masterpiece)
Del Tha Funky Homosapien (come on, dog...)
Warren G Regulate (masterpiece)
Too Short; Life's too short (good)
Above Tha Law; Black Mafia Life (ok)
Friday Soundtrack (only ONE rap classic on it; we know which one...)
GZA; Liquid Swordz (dope)
Method Man, Tical (masterpiece)
Redman; What Thee Album (masterpiece)
The Roots (all albums masterpieces; never dropped ANY classic)
Kurupt, Streez (banging)
Pharcyde (good)
Goodie Mob, Soul Food (masterpiece)
DJ Quik, Quik is the Name (dope)
Run DMC, King of Rock (ok)
Scarface, Mr Scarface is back (dope)
2 Live Crew; Nasty as They Wanna Be (good)
ODB; Return to the 36 (masterpiece)
Kool Keith; Dr Octagon (whateva)
PM Dawn (you CANNOT be serious, dog...)

ok "dogg" ask ANY real hip hop fan and they will agree with me

ask ANY rap or music critic and they will agree with me

and i just looked in the dictionary and masterpeice is a synonim for classic....

[ImmortalOne]

I have to agree with BigJake on this one. Now, Riveria, I havent heard all the albums that you think should be taken off Jakes list, but there are 3 VERY notable ones that you say arent classic, but ARE:

Outkast--Stankonia. This has almost literally bridged all music types together, and Kast is still on point lyrically. Best album of 2000.

Bone--E.1999 Eternal. This is a HANDSDOWN classic, and if you dont think so, well, you're in the minority big time. But then again, im in the minority on some of my opinions but I dont see how you cant think this is not a classic album. Its almost flawless from top to bottom.

GZA--Liquid Swords. Classic, easily. One of the best lyrical albums ever, and RZA's darkest production to date. Plus, like E.1999 Eternal, I dont skip any songs on this one. Hands down classic.

[Ant]

haha razor calm down you want every board to hate you?? and westcoast im gonna side with criminal.... MMLP and SSLP have had an impact on hiphop.... whether it was positive or negative that is yet to be determined but EMINEM opened the door big time for white MCs to enter the game and actually get some sort of respect.... their def was white MCs before eminem but he opened the door for them to get some recognition and respect.....

[ZILLA THA GOODFELLA]

Umm, dat list is all good and everythin, but E.99 Eternal waz left out by accident i hope. Theres so many reasons 4 dat album 2 be a classic, dont make me repeat everythin again.

And Stankonia and Gza were both classics also. No doubt.

Also Too Short's Life's too short aint up there either,
Be real man, dat shit is stright up classic.

It aint ur oppinion, It's a HIP HOP classic.