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Tha Next Episode OG
« on: October 24, 2007, 05:03:25 AM »
what are your thoughts on this track? I only heard it in bad quality sounds like somebody ripped it off a cassette but from what I heard it sounds like a track from Warren G's album "Runnin Wit No Brakes" basicially the same beat and Snoop and Dre goiing back and forth rapping, I think it would have been a dope addition to Doggystyle since there are no Dre features
 

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 05:04:26 AM »
i like that song more then half of doggystyle. shit's tight as hell.
 

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 05:12:49 AM »
its tight.. shame we probably will never hear a proper version..
 

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 05:51:33 AM »
It's a very good track that should've and could've EASILY been on "Doggystyle". I don't think the track is overrated or anything like that, it's just too bad it wasn't included on the album!
 

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 07:13:30 AM »
the whistling effect is so dope  8)

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 07:33:15 AM »
hell nah that track ain't overrated other than Tha Shiznit and Gz And Hustlaz I never heard Snoop flow like that ever :o
 

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Re: Tha Next Episode OG
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 10:20:46 AM »
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.
 

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 12:00:42 PM »
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.

No Iīm with you....
It's dope,but I still think it's a little overated and we praise it a little
TOO MUCH because it's a UNRELEASED Dre and Snoop track.
Dubcc favorite duo,so "we're" a little biased,right?
That said I hope we will get the track in CDQ,now that Geffen is trying to buy the rights to Death Row's catalog.

offcourse it's a bit overrated, but aside from that it's still a great g-funk song imo.
but i doubt it will ever officially be released. i mean, if it was so easy(not saying that you said it was), suge probably would have put it on the snoop doggy dogg's death row greatest hits (since he put some other unreleased songs on the album as well). since the song is produced by dre, and dre is featured on it, suge knew that he wouldn't get away with it.
i'm kinda suprised there are still so many lawsuits against death row going on though ( dre recently started a new lawsuit right? why so late, it's not like he was threatened by suge? dre does have a lot of security right).
i hope as much as you do, that the track will be released in better quality; the lawsuits should be settled ....and lol at all these companies willing to buy death row ( but for the material that may be released in the future, it probably won't make much of a difference).
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2007, 12:24:44 PM »
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.

No Iīm with you....
It's dope,but I still think it's a little overated and we praise it a little
TOO MUCH because it's a UNRELEASED Dre and Snoop track.
Dubcc favorite duo,so "we're" a little biased,right?
That said I hope we will get the track in CDQ,now that Geffen is trying to buy the rights to Death Row's catalog.

offcourse it's a bit overrated, but aside from that it's still a great g-funk song imo.
but i doubt it will ever officially be released. i mean, if it was so easy
(not saying that you said it was), suge probably would have put it on the snoop doggy dogg's death row greatest hits
(since he put some other unreleased songs on the album as well).
since the song is produced by dre, and dre is featured on it, suge knew that he wouldn't get away with it.
i'm kinda suprised there are still so many lawsuits against death row going on though
(dre recently started a new lawsuit right? why so late, it's not like he was threatened by suge? dre does have a lot of security right).
i hope as much as you do, that the track will be released in better quality; the lawsuits should be settled
....and lol at all these companies willing to buy death row
( but for the material that may be released in the future, it probably won't make much of a difference).

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?

Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature 4 unreleased produced Dre tracks,
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.
There was another thread about the dilema youīre talking about;
if it would matter who owns them or not.
Well if Geffen buys them and is on better terms with Dre than Suge,maybe they can work something out?
Iīm not holding my breath,but letīs see how it plays out when it comes down business.
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Re: Tha Next Episode OG
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2007, 12:42:51 PM »

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature X produced Dre tracks (canīt remember how many right now),
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.
lol, i've never seen any of those ads  :laugh: yeah i guess suge somehow thought he could release them and make some money ( that's probably why he didn't just leak them on the internet. maybe he thought he would sell it to a website, such as for the people entertainment).
and even if a big company buys it, and the original issue with the sample clearance still isn't resolved, then they can resolve it the same way as with the song come & go right, just sharing the production/writing credits with all people involved, and split the profit(or something like that, don't know how exactly how they settled it with come & go ).
but was the song ever finished, otherwise it may not be possible to release it in cdq? i know that the full version has leaked, but i don't know how good the quality is of the original master that is somewhere in the vaults, and if it's possible to simply remaster it?
about the "dilemma"; i guess i won't make the same mistake again, and switch the subject of the topic, so i'll just quote a part of your post that is relevant for the other topic, and reply there.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2007, 01:11:42 PM »

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature X produced Dre tracks (canīt remember how many right now),
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.
lol, i've never seen any of those ads  :laugh: yeah i guess suge somehow thought he could release them and make some money ( that's probably why he didn't just leak them on the internet. maybe he thought he would sell it to a website, such as for the people entertainment).
and even if a big company buys it, and the original issue with the sample clearance still isn't resolved, then they can resolve it the same way as with the song come & go right, just sharing the production/writing credits with all people involved, and split the profit(or something like that, don't know how exactly how they settled it with come & go ).
but was the song ever finished, otherwise it may not be possible to release it in cdq? i know that the full version has leaked, but i don't know how good the quality is of the original master that is somewhere in the vaults, and if it's possible to simply remaster it?
about the "dilemma"; i guess i won't make the same mistake again, and switch the subject of the topic, so i'll just quote a part of your post that is relevant for the other topic, and reply there.



I was not part of the other thread,just remember reading it.
You kind of stayed on topic and made it more interesting,so if you ask me you didnīt do anything wrong.  :D
Youīre still talking about the OG Next Episode right?
Hereīs the deal (as I have been told),it exist on promo vinyl. (at least)
How many copies of this vinyl there is I donīt know,
but word is that Funkmaster Flex got a copy and has played on his Radio show in NYC back then.
If this is true or not,I canīt tell,but thatīs how the story goes as I was told it.
I also remember there was some drama about a sample issue right before Doggystyle dropped,
there was rumors about a Madonna sample that didnīt clear,
I have not heard about this Madonna issue since then and at the time assumed
that it was the Next Episode sample that didnīt get cleared.
So when finally the OG Next Episode leaked in the end of the 90īs,there was no Madonna sample on it,so I guess itīs another unreleased track or it was just some bullshit rumor.

The "dilema" convo continues in the next thread.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2007, 01:16:16 PM »
"Doggystyle" should be re-released with all leftovers from it in CDQ as bonus tracks... 8)

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2007, 01:32:54 PM »

You kind of stayed on topic and made it more interesting,so if you ask me you didnīt do anything wrong.  :D
Youīre still talking about the OG Next Episode right?
Hereīs the deal (as I have been told),it exist on promo vinyl. (at least)
How many copies of this vinyl there is I donīt know,
but word is that Funkmaster Flex got a copy and has played on his Radio show in NYC back then.
If this is true or not,I canīt tell,but thatīs how the story goes as I was told it.
I also remember there was some drama about a sample issue right before Doggystyle dropped,
there was rumors about a Madonna sample that didnīt clear,
I have not heard about this Madonna issue since then and at the time assumed
that it was the Next Episode sample that didnīt get cleared.
So when finally the OG Next Episode leaked in the end of the 90īs,there was no Madonna sample on it,so I guess itīs another unreleased track or it was just some bullshit rumor.
lol some parts of my posts were not really offtopic, but they weren't just about the next episode OG master. i was just saying that, the same thing could happen as in an other topic, where the subject matter slightly changed as more replies were posted (from a bad wannabe dre act freepost topic to serious detox talk lol) :D

and yeah it's been 14 years, so some things you mentioned are probably just rumors, but hey, who knows.
but if there is a promo vinyl, that would mean it's still possible to remaster it right?
funny though, not sure if this is related, but have you heard that 1-8-7 track from the 15 years on death row compilation ( i think the song is also on chronicle, death row classics), it sounds so different. i know that a normal deep cover version, and a remix exist, but the one from that compilation is different from those 2 ( if you haven't heard it, listen to a snippet from amazon.com here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000FA5FCI001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/105-2486836-0947610 it has different drums )
so if the next episode OG is going to be remastered, will the same thing happen as with the 187 track ( that the remastered version sounds different than the OG), or not ( if not, that would mean that death row just messed up "187")  :laugh:
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2007, 01:56:02 PM »
can somebody post up the track even if bad quality

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 02:16:12 PM »

You kind of stayed on topic and made it more interesting,so if you ask me you didnīt do anything wrong.  :D
Youīre still talking about the OG Next Episode right?
Hereīs the deal (as I have been told),it exist on promo vinyl. (at least)
How many copies of this vinyl there is I donīt know,
but word is that Funkmaster Flex got a copy and has played on his Radio show in NYC back then.
If this is true or not,I canīt tell,but thatīs how the story goes as I was told it.
I also remember there was some drama about a sample issue right before Doggystyle dropped,
there was rumors about a Madonna sample that didnīt clear,
I have not heard about this Madonna issue since then and at the time assumed
that it was the Next Episode sample that didnīt get cleared.
So when finally the OG Next Episode leaked in the end of the 90īs,there was no Madonna sample on it,so I guess itīs another unreleased track or it was just some bullshit rumor.
lol some parts of my posts were not really offtopic,but they weren't just about the next episode OG master.
I was just saying that, the same thing could happen as in an other topic, where the subject matter slightly changed as more replies were posted
(from a bad wannabe dre act freepost topic to serious detox talk lol) :D

and yeah it's been 14 years, so some things you mentioned are probably just rumors, but hey, who knows.
but if there is a promo vinyl, that would mean it's still possible to remaster it right?
funny though, not sure if this is related, but have you heard that 1-8-7 track from the 15 years on death row compilation
(i think the song is also on chronicle, death row classics), it sounds so different.
I know that a normal deep cover version,and a remix exist,but the one from that compilation is different from those 2
(if you haven't heard it, listen to a snippet from amazon.com here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000FA5FCI001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/105-2486836-0947610
it has different drums)
so if the next episode OG is going to be remastered, will the same thing happen as with the 187 track
(that the remastered version sounds different than the OG), or not
(if not, that would mean that death row just messed up "187")  :laugh:

That was a hard one because it wasnīt exactly CDQ from your link,but the drums sounded different. True,true.
The 187 track appears a couple of places,I believe it first appeared on the Let Me Ride single.
Then on re-issues of the Deep Cover OST,
I has always tought the drums hit a little harder on "187" than on Deep Cover,maybe Iīm imagine things?
Oh well,so what youīre basicilly saying is that if they remaster it,it will coming out sounding different?
Donīt Funkmaster Flex have a myspace or something?
Maybe someone can send him a message and ask,I wouldnīt bother to answer if I was him,but hey why not?

....and props for turning bullshit threads to interesting convos and for hitting up other threads if you goes off topic.




dre's lyrics are different on that version and the bass line is different than the original i have on 12"

But now you're talking about Deep Cover and 187,right?
Dre-Day is talking about a remastered 187 track that he thinks the drums sound different,he posted a link for it.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 03:22:04 PM »
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damn homie it sounds like you and the other dude are the same person LOL
 

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 04:18:53 PM »
dre's lyrics are different on that version and the bass line is different than the original i have on 12"

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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2007, 04:36:32 PM »
dre's lyrics are different on that version and the bass line is different than the original i have on 12"

But now you're talking about Deep Cover and 187,right?
Dre-Day is talking about a remastered 187 track that he thinks the drums sound different,he posted a link for it.

yeah i was talking about deep cover

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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 06:23:06 PM »
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

damn that's some shitty quality LOL, still dope as fuck tho I never heard Dre and Snoop rap that dope on the same track 8)
 

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2007, 03:21:17 AM »
....and props for turning bullshit threads to interesting convos and for hitting up other threads if you goes off topic.
you're welcome; apparently some ppl don't like discussions, cause my karma level keeps going down lately. not that i have a big problem with ppl increasing or decreasing my karma level, but it would be so much better if they would also tell me why they (dis)agree with me to keep the discussions going.
That was a hard one because it wasnīt exactly CDQ from your link,but the drums sounded different. True,true.
The 187 track appears a couple of places,I believe it first appeared on the Let Me Ride single.
Then on re-issues of the Deep Cover OST,
I has always tought the drums hit a little harder on "187" than on Deep Cover,maybe Iīm imagine things?
Oh well,so what youīre basicilly saying is that if they remaster it,it will coming out sounding different?
if anybody is interested, here is the alternate remastered version of 187: http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/ (i think the OG 187 is better, the remastered version misses something).
anyway, i don't have the death row vaults in my room, so i can't back up my theory, it's just strange that deep cover was never put on a death row compilation ( as far as i know, so correct me if i'm wrong).
but death row also messed up "fuck with dre day", when they remastered it, so it's hopefully just possible to restore The Next Episode OG succesfully in it's original form ( what normally happens with old recordings).
by the way, i just realised that death row sort of remastered the 187 OG in it's original form on the death row singles collection ( which makes it even stranger why they put a slightly different version of 187 on other compilations, damn they certainly know how to mess it up lol); here it is http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

damn that's some shitty quality LOL, still dope as fuck tho I never heard Dre and Snoop rap that dope on the same track 8)
yeah i know, now you probably understand why this topic was created  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2007, 03:31:46 AM »
props for all the replies, I always liked the way Snoop ripped it on "187" not to say its better than Deep Cover but just as dope to me, as for the OG Next Episode I am in NYC and never heard that Flex played it but it could be true I remember that before "What's My Name?" officially came out they used to play a version I think with only one verse and used to bleep out the curse words this was around September of '93
 

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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2007, 04:14:14 AM »
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)

edit: ok, now i know that this is real, i might as well upload Gz up hoes down  :laugh:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/44386395d850a7/

edit2: ill put my reply here to prevent total change of subject;


Now I got confused which one is the remastered version?
Because I got the original,so donīt need that.

Hmmm,there has been 100 off threads about this but Dre-Day managed to turn it into something interesting.
So again got to give it up to Dre-Day and hopefully more people will follow his example.
sorry for confusing you, but at first i thought that death row didn't remaster 187 in it's original form. that's why i posted a link to the alternate remastered version.
but then i realised that koch put the OG remastered version of 187 on the recently released death row singles compilation.
so the first download link in my post was the alternate 187 remastered version, and the 2nd download link is the OG remastered one ( the one you have, but with slightly better sound quality), so it's up to you whether you want to download them or not  ;)
and thanks for the compliment, i always try to stay away from certain topics, but i guess i need to be more careful lol.
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2007, 04:31:30 AM »
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)


yeah thats the one I have, it was the first pressings of the CD with Gz Up Hoez Down on(short track but another classic really smooth and goes well with the 2nd half of Doggystyle)
 

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2007, 05:20:25 AM »
....and props for turning bullshit threads to interesting convos and for hitting up other threads if you goes off topic.

you're welcome; apparently some ppl don't like discussions,cause my karma level keeps going down lately.
not that i have a big problem with ppl increasing or decreasing my karma level,
but it would be so much better if they would also tell me why they (dis)agree with me to keep the discussions going.

The thing is that people in here can be two face,they donīt dare to say it to your face but love to push the karma button.
Al Bundy has made a thread about it Fuck The Haters;
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155701.0
I donīt know if you have noticed but negative threads always get more attention
than positive and constructive threads that bring interesting things to the table.
I guess thatīs just how it is.

That was a hard one because it wasnīt exactly CDQ from your link,but the drums sounded different. True,true.
The 187 track appears a couple of places,I believe it first appeared on the Let Me Ride single.
Then on re-issues of the Deep Cover OST,
I has always tought the drums hit a little harder on "187" than on Deep Cover,maybe Iīm imagine things?
Oh well,so what youīre basicilly saying is that if they remaster it,it will coming out sounding different?

if anybody is interested, here is the alternate remastered version of 187:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/
(i think the OG 187 is better, the remastered version misses something).
anyway, i don't have the death row vaults in my room, so i can't back up my theory,
it's just strange that deep cover was never put on a death row compilation ( as far as i know, so correct me if i'm wrong).
but death row also messed up "fuck with dre day", when they remastered it,
so it's hopefully just possible to restore The Next Episode OG succesfully in it's original form
(what normally happens with old recordings).
by the way, i just realised that death row sort of remastered the 187 OG
in it's original from on the death row singles collection
(which makes it even stranger why they put a slightly different version of 187 on other compilations,
damn they certainly know how to mess it up lol); here it is
http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

Now I got confused which one is the remastered version?
Because I got the original,so donīt need that.

damn that's some shitty quality LOL, still dope as fuck tho I never heard Dre and Snoop rap that dope on the same track 8)
yeah i know, now you probably understand why this topic was created  ;)

Hmmm,there has been 100 off threads about this but Dre-Day managed to turn it into something interesting.
So again got to give it up to Dre-Day and hopefully more people will follow his example.