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Re: ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2008, 08:47:51 PM »
Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??

Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.

...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered  Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!


really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
^Well according to the Muslim faith yes,that would be accurate!!

However in the Xtian faith,it's different!!
Both deities are so different in their relationship towards man,that it's so clear to see..
And on that note, I'll say no more!

Not that i don't know what I'm talking about, rather not to offend others of different faith!!


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Re: ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2008, 08:58:54 PM »
Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??

Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.

...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered  Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!


really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
^Well according to the Muslim faith yes,that would be accurate!!

However in the Xtian faith,it's different!!
Both deities are so different in their relationship towards man,that it's so clear to see..
And on that note, I'll say no more!

Not that i don't know what I'm talking about, rather not to offend others of different faith!!

You obviously have no fucking clue.
It's not "one way to look at it"... that's what it is. Arab Christians refer to God as Allah, and they know it is the same deity as the God worshipped by Muslims.
You said "in reality there are two separate Beings!".... so you're saying there are two Gods?  :)
The difference is as the other guy stated, that Muslims believe Mohammed to be the last messenger... and the two faiths differ on their view of the nature of Jesus... Muslims consider him a prophet, while Christians believe he is God/The Son of God/etc.
What you're saying would mean that Jews and Christians also don't believe in the same God, since Jews didn't accept Jesus Christ... so according to your logic (if I can even call it that) Christians believe that they're worshipping the same God as Jews, but Jews feel that they're not worshipping the same God as Christians.
I went to Lebanon on vacation a while back... the Christians there would go to Muslim imams/sheikhs for guidance sometimes... and they had no problem reciting Surah Al-Fatiha from the Quran in their prayers because they know that they're worshipping the same God... since the message in Surah Al-Fatiha doesn't differ from Christians' view of God.

"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe.
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
King of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help
Guide us to the straight way;
The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray."
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Re: ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2008, 05:15:29 PM »
Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??

Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.

...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered  Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!


really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
^Well according to the Muslim faith yes,that would be accurate!!

However in the Xtian faith,it's different!!
Both deities are so different in their relationship towards man,that it's so clear to see..
And on that note, I'll say no more!

Not that i don't know what I'm talking about, rather not to offend others of different faith!!

You obviously have no fucking clue.
It's not "one way to look at it"... that's what it is. Arab Christians refer to God as Allah, and they know it is the same deity as the God worshipped by Muslims.
You said "in reality there are two separate Beings!".... so you're saying there are two Gods?  :)
The difference is as the other guy stated, that Muslims believe Mohammed to be the last messenger... and the two faiths differ on their view of the nature of Jesus... Muslims consider him a prophet, while Christians believe he is God/The Son of God/etc.
What you're saying would mean that Jews and Christians also don't believe in the same God, since Jews didn't accept Jesus Christ... so according to your logic (if I can even call it that) Christians believe that they're worshipping the same God as Jews, but Jews feel that they're not worshipping the same God as Christians.


"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe.
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
King of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help
Guide us to the straight way;
The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray."


i Actually do know!!
it's not 'my logic''
It's the way it is...

yes Islam views Christ as a prophet, but deny his divinity,which holds true for Christianity
And no the jews and Christians believe in the same God!!!
They did not accept Christ,cuz accordingly to them and He was the messiah they were looking for!!

But We believe in the same god..the God Of Judea!!

Well both deities can't be the same,their principlies  differ, this is obvious just by merely reading both Holy Books of the respective faiths!

Quote
I went to Lebanon on vacation a while back... the Christians there would go to Muslim imams/sheikhs for guidance sometimes... and they had no problem reciting Surah Al-Fatiha from the Quran in their prayers because they know that they're worshipping the same God... since the message in Surah Al-Fatiha doesn't differ from Christians' view of God.

^^Why would they go to an Imam,why not go to a priest or go to Church??
You wouldn't expect a muslim to seek guidance from a priest???
Think about it,why say a prayer that is of a different faith,to talk to your God,who is of a different faith.
That is like speaking French to an English person..


"Surah Al-Fatiha"=>How does this not differ for the Xtians view of God

How come Prophet Mohammad is not mentioned in the Bible,if both faiths are the same??
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Re: ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 05:39:55 PM »
Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??

Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.

...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered  Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!


really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
^Well according to the Muslim faith yes,that would be accurate!!

However in the Xtian faith,it's different!!
Both deities are so different in their relationship towards man,that it's so clear to see..
And on that note, I'll say no more!

Not that i don't know what I'm talking about, rather not to offend others of different faith!!

You obviously have no fucking clue.
It's not "one way to look at it"... that's what it is. Arab Christians refer to God as Allah, and they know it is the same deity as the God worshipped by Muslims.
You said "in reality there are two separate Beings!".... so you're saying there are two Gods?  :)
The difference is as the other guy stated, that Muslims believe Mohammed to be the last messenger... and the two faiths differ on their view of the nature of Jesus... Muslims consider him a prophet, while Christians believe he is God/The Son of God/etc.
What you're saying would mean that Jews and Christians also don't believe in the same God, since Jews didn't accept Jesus Christ... so according to your logic (if I can even call it that) Christians believe that they're worshipping the same God as Jews, but Jews feel that they're not worshipping the same God as Christians.


"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe.
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
King of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help
Guide us to the straight way;
The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray."


i Actually do know!!
it's not 'my logic''
It's the way it is...

yes Islam views Christ as a prophet, but deny his divinity,which holds true for Christianity
And no the jews and Christians believe in the same God!!!
They did not accept Christ,cuz accordingly to them and He was the messiah they were looking for!!

But We believe in the same god..the God Of Judea!!

Well both deities can't be the same,their principlies  differ, this is obvious just by merely reading both Holy Books of the respective faiths!

Quote
I went to Lebanon on vacation a while back... the Christians there would go to Muslim imams/sheikhs for guidance sometimes... and they had no problem reciting Surah Al-Fatiha from the Quran in their prayers because they know that they're worshipping the same God... since the message in Surah Al-Fatiha doesn't differ from Christians' view of God.

^^Why would they go to an Imam,why not go to a priest or go to Church??
You wouldn't expect a muslim to seek guidance from a priest???
Think about it,why say a prayer that is of a different faith,to talk to your God,who is of a different faith.
That is like speaking French to an English person..


"Surah Al-Fatiha"=>How does this not differ for the Xtians view of God

How come Prophet Mohammad is not mentioned in the Bible,if both faiths are the same??


LOL. You're dumber than I thought.

Yes, I know that Jews and Christians believe in the same God... and so do Muslims. I never said both faiths are the same. I said they believe in the same God.
Like you said, Jews and Christians believe in the same God, but are of different "faiths"... the same applies here. Obviously there are theological differences... otherwise there would only be one religion. It's really a lot less complicated than you make it.

As for Surah Al-Fatiha, show me what part of this Christians would disagree with:

"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe.
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
King of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help
Guide us to the straight way;
The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray."

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Re: ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 05:57:19 PM »
Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??

Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.

...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered  Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!


really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
^Well according to the Muslim faith yes,that would be accurate!!

However in the Xtian faith,it's different!!
Both deities are so different in their relationship towards man,that it's so clear to see..
And on that note, I'll say no more!

Not that i don't know what I'm talking about, rather not to offend others of different faith!!

You obviously have no fucking clue.
It's not "one way to look at it"... that's what it is. Arab Christians refer to God as Allah, and they know it is the same deity as the God worshipped by Muslims.
You said "in reality there are two separate Beings!".... so you're saying there are two Gods?  :)
The difference is as the other guy stated, that Muslims believe Mohammed to be the last messenger... and the two faiths differ on their view of the nature of Jesus... Muslims consider him a prophet, while Christians believe he is God/The Son of God/etc.
What you're saying would mean that Jews and Christians also don't believe in the same God, since Jews didn't accept Jesus Christ... so according to your logic (if I can even call it that) Christians believe that they're worshipping the same God as Jews, but Jews feel that they're not worshipping the same God as Christians.


"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe.
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
King of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help
Guide us to the straight way;
The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray."


i Actually do know!!
it's not 'my logic''
It's the way it is...

yes Islam views Christ as a prophet, but deny his divinity,which holds true for Christianity
And no the jews and Christians believe in the same God!!!
They did not accept Christ,cuz accordingly to them and He was the messiah they were looking for!!

But We believe in the same god..the God Of Judea!!

Well both deities can't be the same,their principlies  differ, this is obvious just by merely reading both Holy Books of the respective faiths!

Quote
I went to Lebanon on vacation a while back... the Christians there would go to Muslim imams/sheikhs for guidance sometimes... and they had no problem reciting Surah Al-Fatiha from the Quran in their prayers because they know that they're worshipping the same God... since the message in Surah Al-Fatiha doesn't differ from Christians' view of God.

^^Why would they go to an Imam,why not go to a priest or go to Church??
You wouldn't expect a muslim to seek guidance from a priest???
Think about it,why say a prayer that is of a different faith,to talk to your God,who is of a different faith.
That is like speaking French to an English person..


"Surah Al-Fatiha"=>How does this not differ for the Xtians view of God

How come Prophet Mohammad is not mentioned in the Bible,if both faiths are the same??


LOL. You're dumber than I thought.

lol..I'm Not Dumb!!!!

I've posted nothing to warrant me being referred to as 'Dumb'

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Yes, I know that Jews and Christians believe in the same God... and so do Muslims. I never said both faiths are the same. I said they believe in the same God.
Then in that regard,i apologize!
However i would like to state that i still disagree,with respect to  Islam believing in the same God, as the Judaism and Christianity do.
We unfortunately have to agree to disagree on that!!




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As for Surah Al-Fatiha, show me what part of this Christians would disagree with:

"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe.
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
King of the Day of Judgment.
You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help
Guide us to the straight way;
The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray."


[/quote]


^I  find nothing wrong with the above^
I personally won't feel connected with My God,if i had to say that prayer!
Prayer is very personal,there has too be that feeling of connection, so me repeating the above will not work for me!!
I would question some Xtians doing,cuz i feel it's just not right!
However if they feel happy doing it,then more blessings to them,but it's just a personal choice for
me not to d it!
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Re: ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2008, 03:13:55 AM »
Difference between Satan though, is that he wanted to be praised, prayed to, glorified etc. Thats not what im saying. Big difference.


Word. Surely you get my point though.

Peace God. 
yea i get your point cant tell if you just mockin though
Hell no.
Peace. (no mockery).
O thats what it is. thats peace. your avatar did you draw that picture? its a sick picture

nah simply jacked it. I got made artworks tho, will post up eventually, lifes a hustle. Word brother.

...and word to Trauma.
Science is nothing more than another religion, and all religion attempts to understand the world we're in, all go about it in a different way,

^
Thats real, thats why I say:

see God in all things.

...because Brahma/Allah/GOD/Yahweh/Jah is

...and science, religion, etc are all in a way telescopes and microscopes just with different types of lenses fitted inorder to percieve the God. But all these lenses are vulnerable and imperfect like all of Man's creations and can get chipped, distorted, murky and muggy at times. My attitude is fuck a lense my eyes work fine, by all means try them on, for real try them on for the experience and the seeking, you need that to experience, but have any one lense on for too long and you forget your own eyes. 




Allah is father of all
You debate whether big, whether small
Whether short, whether tall
Whether dense, whether length
Whether strength, whether width
Either man, animal, bird or fish
Whether, black or white, more shapes than snowflakes
Existin', everywhere but you still can't locate


-The RZA, "a day to God is a 1,000 years".

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