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Re: Guantanamo.....
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2008, 11:30:40 AM »
Is there any reasonable argument against closing Guantanamo?

wheres all those P.O.W.s  gonna go. i believe THE US will not get out of cuba until its a democracy.

If they can make it a legitimate prison, sure. So Guantanamo should remain as it is, because the US are going to stay in Cuba forever?
What business do the US have anyway, intervening in other countries, telling them their government isn't run 'the right way'? I say as long as the US themselves are pretty damn far from perfect, they should focus on becoming an example to the countries they condemn. You make it seem as if the US are right for their attitude against Cuba.

Besides, let this not be mistaken for me having any sympathy for a communist, collectivist or altruist state.
o not even like that. im juz really confident that america wouldnt leave until it is is a democracy.
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Re: Guantanamo.....
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2008, 09:39:25 PM »
America is the only country in the world that doesn't attempt to expand it's borders.  We could kick the fuck out of Cuba if we wanted and take that shit and there's not a country in the world that would even talk back to us for doing it. 

We don't do that, though, because we fucking rock.  Anybody that sees America as a great evil is fucking ignorant.  If America was evil, we would rule the world.  Except maybe China.  Still, we'd rule all of the world except China.  Fuck China. 
 

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Re: Guantanamo.....
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2008, 09:47:24 PM »
hmm but what about russia and its nukes, their army general recently announced that russia is ready for a pre-emptive attack because of the missile defense system that their establishin in eastern europe.

i dont believe  america in general is evil, juz the people  that influence the government are. but we dont need to expand borders because we already heavily influence countries when we turn em into democracy no? correct me if im wrong.
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Re: Guantanamo.....
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2008, 09:54:57 PM »
America is the land of the free.  What we export and try to do to other countries is make them free.  Do you see us attacking France?  France hates us.  We still work with them, trade with them, buy their goods, sell them our goods, etc.  Look @ how we work with Saudi Arabia!  Those people are evil and we kiss their ass for their oil. 

If America was bloodthirsty like people suppose it is, we would be out taking over countries.  That's not our m.o.  When we turn a country into  a democracy, we can always point back and say "look, now those people are free", and it's fucking true.  We heavily influence them, but any country is free to ignore our wishes or our ideas, the consequence is a lack of financial assistance.  The countries that bow to our will, for instance Israel, are heavily dependent on our money.  It is not evil to not spend money or give money to people that you disagree with.

Now, if America was going around just bombing the shit out of countries we disagree with, that's one thing.  A financial embargo though?  There's nothing wrong with that.  I don't spend money at stores I don't like.  I also don't go shoot up the store.  This is how people live their life, America lives as a country as people naturally live from God.  There are great countries around the world like this.

I just don't get why everybody hates America so much.  A bunch of lame-ass pussies, if you ask me.  We're kicking dictators and shit out of office, putting in democracies, and letting people walk the streets at night free! 
 

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Re: Guantanamo.....
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 12:54:13 AM »
If you call in excess of 500.000 iraqis dead because of an evil lie then yes hail freedom.
If you think that created evil dictators is freedom, then yes it's freedom.
If you think that corporate facism is freedom, then yes freedom.
If you think Rumsfeld selling nuclear reactos to North Korea is freedom, then yes freedom!
I guess freedom must be Alberto Gonzalez telling the senate that americans don't have an automatic right to habeus corpus!
George Bush describing the constitution as a piece of paper.
If you think talking about nuking Iran is freedom...well I should stop about there you sick fuck.
Very soon you dumb fuck the American economy is going to completely implode and when the establishment imposes complete police state on the population in order to combat the aftermath, then you are going to know what freedom is.
If you believe that free speech is free speech zones, then yes oh what wonderful freedom

America isn't evil, Britain isn't evil but the people which ultimately run them are. Of course America wouldn't attack France. France belongs to the league of nations and as a member of both NATO and the European Union, during the inception of the union, that was one of the key selling points. Namely that if any country attacked a fellow member, it would be defended by all the rest. Furthermore Fox News knows that most viewers are completely retarded who lack even a semblance of critical thinking because they even used the "french bashing" as a means of covering up the cronyism of awarding no bid contracts. The intention was that the viewer would say well good the frenchies shouldn't get it, when in reality other american busiinesses were not allowed to bid either.
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