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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2008, 05:59:01 PM »
Seriously, answer me this:
So if Obama is really as strong about his beliefs and ideas as he makes you think he is, how can he chill to a Jigga album, singing along to "nigga whaaaat, nigga whooooo?" only afterwards recapping "Well, they do use the N word a little too frequently"?

That's the same as saying: "Violence is wrong, killing people is worse, but the Kim track by Eminem sure is the shit"

Huh?


I am sticking to the point, peace man we cool. Expression is everything. You are saying that hip-hop should not contradict itself, I say fuck that, let it contradict itself as much as it wants, don't say what it should or shouldn't do or be, there is still shit art and good art, you need that sharp intellect to appreciate and decide for yourself what is and isn't good art or what just isn't art altogether, thats the intellectual challenge. Would you rather art that paints a pretty picture: a tree, a house and a mountain, you look at it and you know exactly what is in the picture? Would you rather McDonalds hip-hop, you know exactly how shits gonna taste and feel? Go to a little brother concert and you know you are going to be safe and you are not going to be offended and you know exactly what you are going to feel because it suits your personality. Why should Obama have to read a biography, its a totally different medium, we are talking hip hop thats the topic is it not?  ;) I'm saying don't paint yourself into a picture, don't define yourself into a little world. If you put water into a cup, sure it takes the form of the cup, but it can't do anything, it is controlled and defined and it's capacity for creation or destruction is nada.


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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2008, 06:29:20 PM »
If Obama, well really anyone for that matter, is restricted to listen to music that isn't against their beliefs well then you're limited to what you can listen to.
 

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2008, 11:55:30 AM »
If Obama, well really anyone for that matter, is restricted to listen to music that isn't against their beliefs well then you're limited to what you can listen to.

True... I listen to Hip-Hop, but don't agree with a lot of the message... though at one time I did... lol

As I get older, I realize the stupitity of what a lot of the Hip-Hop culture stands for... and how I grew up in the no-snitching culture, how much that was enforced to the community out of fear, not out of respect to the local drug dealers. Hip-Hop has a lot wrong, but it has a lot right, and if anyone kept their mind close to what the youth is listening to, and saying, then they will stay in the dark of the troubles that the future will face. So well Obama may not agree, as someone who prides himself at once being a community organizor and who worked on the streets, he still needs to keep an ear on the streets.
 

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2008, 12:09:43 PM »
Why do I have to agree with the lyrics when I'm listening to a rap record? When you watch an action movie you don't have to agree with anything, you just enjoy the action. That's the same way I listen to rap, like a movie on wax. Of course killing hookers is wrong, but I can still listen to NWA's "To Kill a Hooker" and enjoy it.
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2008, 12:09:54 PM »
lol did he just say the jay z album was tight?
 

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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2008, 12:22:38 PM »
lol did he just say the jay z album was tight?

yes he did... lol... it actually was... I thought it was WAY better than his last one and might be his best since Blueprint... not better than Blue Print but better than Blueprint 2, Black Album and Kingdom Come.
 

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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2008, 01:30:20 PM »
MDogg... can you re-up the link for me, I think it died, I never got a chance to check it out.
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2008, 01:10:03 AM »
Props to MDogg.  I've never been into Jay-Z or Kanye West, I wish he wouldn't have felt like Jay-Z had to be the first name out of his mouth... but other than that, this shows  that  Obama is really in touch with our generation, and if it wasn't for the White-Judeo-Christian controlled media he could show even more candidly how down he really is.
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2008, 02:35:19 PM »
Oh enough with worshipping this man just because he is black infinite. The white/jewish controlled media you speak of is real, the white/jewish controlled CFR is real and guess what? Obama is CFR so please stop trying to pretend that he is some kind of maverick or you are just acting as a knowing gate keeper. It's  exactly the same as when someone like webster tarpley will expose an evil politician but then he will steer you towards looking at another corrupt owned politician in a positive light.
 

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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2008, 10:02:30 PM »
Oh enough with worshipping this man just because he is black infinite. The white/jewish controlled media you speak of is real, the white/jewish controlled CFR is real and guess what? Obama is CFR so please stop trying to pretend that he is some kind of maverick or you are just acting as a knowing gate keeper. It's  exactly the same as when someone like webster tarpley will expose an evil politician but then he will steer you towards looking at another corrupt owned politician in a positive light.

Your trippin man...  Have you ever heard the saying, "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."

Well, you are just anti-everything.  You don't stand for anything.

Your like the people that cry out day and night against the war in Iraq and then at the same time call the people engineering the Iraqi resistance "brutal terrorists".  So you call America's aggression evil and the resistance to it, evil.  Or the people that always complaining about and criticizing everything and never offering a solution in it's place. 

Peep this man.  Ron Paul was my candidate when it come to political ideology; I am a Libertarian.  So I'm no Obama dickrider.

But, there are also plenty of reasons for me to identify with and love Barack Obama as a person... 

-I am a Muslim, Obama's father's side of the family is Muslim, and Obama himself has a Muslim name.

-Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world and Obama grew up there and went to Islamic school.

-I love African culture above all other cultures.  I spent a month in West Africa last year and it was one of the first times I've been happy in a long time.  It still puts me in a good mood any time I think about it... and I love the people there.  Well, Obama is African!  So obviously I am excited about his candidacy, we have never had an African make it this far in America.  He is celebrated throughout the continent. 

-My favorite movie director is Spike Lee.  This dude's first date with his wife was to go see Spike Lee's "Do the Right Thing".

-Obama used to work with Palestinian organizations in Chicago and was sympathetic to their cause back in the day.  He just can't openly sympathize with them now, because the Jewish lobby is too powerful.

-His wife is a dime and she's brilliant, too.

...you feel me?
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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2008, 10:04:21 PM »
bryan i bet you jack off to oprah
 

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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2008, 10:05:38 PM »
bryan i bet you jack off to oprah

I don't like Oprah.  What makes you think I would like Oprah? 
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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2008, 10:19:34 PM »
bryan i bet you jack off to oprah

I don't like Oprah.  What makes you think I would like Oprah? 

she is black. ohh wait you only like real, authentic, africans huh, theyre much more interesting right? like animals? your midwestern upbringing has made black people sought after commodities in your eyes, and you will dedicate your life to "them"
 

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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2008, 10:25:44 PM »


she is black. ohh wait you only like real, authentic, africans huh, theyre much more interesting right? like animals? your midwestern upbringing has made black people sought after commodities in your eyes, and you will dedicate your life to "them"


What you are trying to do is make me feel ashamed or something because I like African culture.  The problem for you is that I don't find anything shameful in it.  So your just wasting your time, but go on.. do what you do.. I understand this is what you do, so everyone chooses how to live their life, and how to use their words.  I just think your wasting your time following me into every thread.
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2008, 12:17:44 AM »


she is black. ohh wait you only like real, authentic, africans huh, theyre much more interesting right? like animals? your midwestern upbringing has made black people sought after commodities in your eyes, and you will dedicate your life to "them"


What you are trying to do is make me feel ashamed or something because I like African culture.  The problem for you is that I don't find anything shameful in it.  So your just wasting your time, but go on.. do what you do.. I understand this is what you do, so everyone chooses how to live their life, and how to use their words.  I just think your wasting your time following me into every thread.

i'm not trying to make you ashamed of liking african culture, i love it as well, but you have abandoned your self identity as a white person
 

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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2008, 12:23:10 AM »


i'm not trying to make you ashamed of liking african culture, i love it as well, but you have abandoned your self identity as a white person


lol... and what is white culture?  Going out quail hunting and shopping at Cabela's?
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2008, 12:37:00 AM »


i'm not trying to make you ashamed of liking african culture, i love it as well, but you have abandoned your self identity as a white person


lol... and what is white culture?  Going out quail hunting and shopping at Cabela's?

dont use logical fallacies bryguy to defend your wiggerness. you know every ethnicity is rich with their own culture, except for african, their culture is just raping and not eating  :P
 

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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2008, 12:49:30 AM »


dont use logical fallacies bryguy to defend your wiggerness. you know every ethnicity is rich with their own culture, except for african, their culture is just raping and not eating  :P


Actually, I will say that European art and culture is very rich.   

However, white American culture...... and talking about my "white identity", I really would love to have you explain to me what that it is, because I'd love to hear what you think the "white identity" and "white culture" is that I should be practicing in America.
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2008, 12:59:26 AM »


dont use logical fallacies bryguy to defend your wiggerness. you know every ethnicity is rich with their own culture, except for african, their culture is just raping and not eating  :P


Actually, I will say that European art and culture is very rich.  However, white American culture...... and talking about my "white identity", I really would love to have you explain to me what that it is, because I have no idea what it means to be white in America. 

how can you not, you are white, you were raised in what is known as "America's Heartland", the epitome of white christian republican America. and you know damn well it ain't where you're at, it's where you're from. The farms, the agriculture, the church, the football, all that shit you grew up with bryan. that is unique culture in of itself, and you decided to throw it all away because you were an outcast in high school. that didn't make you anything like the rap artists who you listened to, but you needed something bigger than yourself and community to latch on to, so you had blacks, the islam, then africa, communities and peoples polar opposite to the one that had rejected you as you grew up. you didn't have to be a white bred hick like your family bryan, but you didn't have to completely reject everything that molded you while you were young. But you did. Almost bi-polar in nature you could say. in a way i feel sorry for you and want you to be happy because you couldve found acceptance in other parts of America, you didn't have to reject the world around you and burn bridges, but i guess that's how the cookie crumbles...not much to do but congratulate you on you fun vacations and watch the abyssal madness consume you.
 

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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2008, 01:36:26 AM »

Infinite I am not anti everything you just love anything black, that's fine but I tell you what I am anti, I am anti the CFR, I am anti the trilateral commission. It's like you are in a state of denial the CFR is the global commerce arm of the world, just look at all of the powerful figures who belong to it. Obama is part of the CFR and yet that somehow doesn't matter, that somehow despite belonging to this world arm, that he is against the establishment. You truly are rapidly descending into a joke I am for democratic open accountable bodies, not for the same groups who use their power to deceive, cheat and screw the entire world including your beloved Africa. Obama is being pushed because the establishment aren't dumb, they realise that people don't trust rich white men anymore, that they demand a change, so instead they are pushing CFR black member Obama. I don't know how else to put it to you Obama is just a puppet and clearly believes in the idealology of the CFR or he would not be a member. Or perhaps you have convinced yourself that he inside an arm of the elite government, working against it.

Let us think about that rationally just for a moment, you said the jewish/european media controls the flow of information and that's true, you said they set public opinion and that's true, you said the think tanks steer the policies and that's true so since all of that is true, the media would ignore this man if he really was a renegade. The entire media would demonise this man but instead they don't and segments of the elite media controllers are pushing him and why? because the owners of some of the largest media corporations are members of the CFR. I am not going to stand for something because it feels good and it seems him having some sorts of muslim roots is what is swaying you to, the fact that he is black also, seems to secure it, I don't give a shit about that. If he really was a renegade, I would not be saying any of these things I am only able to say them because there is so much ammo to use against him.

I mean ffs Infinite you said the sunni wahabi Al Queda sect is run by the west and that is well documented and yet his military advisor is Brzienski, the brainchild of Al Queda!. What part of the calculation 1 add 1 is preventing you from making 2?
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Re: Barack Obama on Hip-Hop... a great interview
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2008, 03:21:32 AM »

Infinite I am not anti everything you just love anything black, that's fine but I tell you what I am anti, I am anti the CFR, I am anti the trilateral commission. It's like you are in a state of denial the CFR is the global commerce arm of the world, just look at all of the powerful figures who belong to it. Obama is part of the CFR and yet that somehow doesn't matter, that somehow despite belonging to this world arm, that he is against the establishment. You truly are rapidly descending into a joke I am for democratic open accountable bodies, not for the same groups who use their power to deceive, cheat and screw the entire world including your beloved Africa. Obama is being pushed because the establishment aren't dumb, they realise that people don't trust rich white men anymore, that they demand a change, so instead they are pushing CFR black member Obama. I don't know how else to put it to you Obama is just a puppet and clearly believes in the idealology of the CFR or he would not be a member. Or perhaps you have convinced yourself that he inside an arm of the elite government, working against it.

Let us think about that rationally just for a moment, you said the jewish/european media controls the flow of information and that's true, you said they set public opinion and that's true, you said the think tanks steer the policies and that's true so since all of that is true, the media would ignore this man if he really was a renegade. The entire media would demonise this man but instead they don't and segments of the elite media controllers are pushing him and why? because the owners of some of the largest media corporations are members of the CFR. I am not going to stand for something because it feels good and it seems him having some sorts of muslim roots is what is swaying you to, the fact that he is black also, seems to secure it, I don't give a shit about that. If he really was a renegade, I would not be saying any of these things I am only able to say them because there is so much ammo to use against him.

I mean ffs Infinite you said the sunni wahabi Al Queda sect is run by the west and that is well documented and yet his military advisor is Brzienski, the brainchild of Al Queda!. What part of the calculation 1 add 1 is preventing you from making 2?


I need to read more about CFR, can you hook me up with some links to some basic info.

Also, the Judeo-Christian establishment does not support Obama like you think.  He was just being used to defeat Hillary for the democratic nomination, so that the Republicans could win the general election.  Then the crackers and Jews got scared when he won 11 states in a row, and so they started their hate campaign against him a couple weeks ago, and they have now put their machine into action to bring him down.

And I don't remember ever saying anything about "the Sunni Wahhabi Al-Queda sect" being ran by the West.  I'm not one of those people that thinks that Usama is CIA operative or something like that.  The only thing I may have suggested is that the CIA and Massood were pulling false flag operations, planting bombs, harming civilians to fuel sectarian fueds, and blaming it on the invisible boogie man, the Islamic "terrorist".
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« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2008, 06:12:21 AM »
Well just to respond quickly if a black candidate was really a maverick I would support him, if he really was trying to change the status quo, I wouldn't give a shit what colour he was, this has nothing to do with race.

The CFR information you asked for is encapsulated quite nicely in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_zs3GgOVv4&eurl=http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4048&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30.

Thirdly I suggest that you dilligently research into who Brizienski is, what he stands for and maybe even read his book. When you have, remember this is Barack's advisor. As far as what you said about certain segments of the elite against Obama, yes that is true and hence why I said he is getting pushed by some segments. What you basically have is a poligarchy and Obama and his advisors are one of the competing elites and Hilary's are another.

Finally, it's documented that Bin Laden was a CIA agent, it's also documented that western intelligence agencies are supporting islamic fighters in Iran. It's also documented that they were basically running islamic fighters in Kosovo. It is also true that mossad, MI6, the CIA have carried out bombings before and furthermore, there are more mercenaries in Iraq now then there are soldiers. They answer to no one as has been proved by Blackwater and so I have little doubt that the big car bombs are courtesy of such groups.

By the way I can illustrate that you are wrong in saying I am anti everything, that simply isn't true. I support what UKIP are trying to do and for that matter I support Ron Paul. I wish there was someone akin to him in this country but alas there is not. I should also add to that list Cynthia Mkinney and Dennis Kucinich, someone similar to them in this country would be welcome also.



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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2008, 08:03:57 AM »
Well just to respond quickly if a black candidate was really a maverick I would support him, if he really was trying to change the status quo, I wouldn't give a shit what colour he was, this has nothing to do with race.

The CFR information you asked for is encapsulated quite nicely in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_zs3GgOVv4&eurl=http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4048&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30.

Thirdly I suggest that you dilligently research into who Brizienski is, what he stands for and maybe even read his book. When you have, remember this is Barack's advisor. As far as what you said about certain segments of the elite against Obama, yes that is true and hence why I said he is getting pushed by some segments. What you basically have is a poligarchy and Obama and his advisors are one of the competing elites and Hilary's are another.

Finally, it's documented that Bin Laden was a CIA agent, it's also documented that western intelligence agencies are supporting islamic fighters in Iran. It's also documented that they were basically running islamic fighters in Kosovo. It is also true that mossad, MI6, the CIA have carried out bombings before and furthermore, there are more mercenaries in Iraq now then there are soldiers. They answer to no one as has been proved by Blackwater and so I have little doubt that the big car bombs are courtesy of such groups.

By the way I can illustrate that you are wrong in saying I am anti everything, that simply isn't true. I support what UKIP are trying to do and for that matter I support Ron Paul. I wish there was someone akin to him in this country but alas there is not. I should also add to that list Cynthia Mkinney and Dennis Kucinich, someone similar to them in this country would be welcome also.





I watched the video... and one thing I love is when looking it up on the net and what not, I get all these things about Bush and Obama being related. OK, if you want to prove something about Obama... great... but to put lies in there and saying Bush and Obama are related then that's basically calling yourself out as a lyer. His related to Dick Cheney by 8th cousins, and that is known, and Cheney comes from the Mid-West so it's believable... but Bush is actually from back East and it he is about as much related to Bush as I am to George Lopez.
 

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Re: Barack Obama on Hip-Hop... a great interview
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2008, 12:56:32 PM »

I have only just noticed this retort of yours and it's apparent that you have rejected it out of hand. I just did a quick google search and found this reported in one of the most popular newspapers in Europe.


Obama is vice-president's distant cousin, says Cheney's wife

    * Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
    * The Guardian,
    * Thursday October 18 2007
    * Article history

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This article appeared in the Guardian on Thursday October 18 2007 on p18 of the International section. It was last updated at 15:47 on October 19 2007.
Barack Obama makes much of his varied heritage. His father was from Kenya, his mother from Kansas. But there is one element of his family history that has remained obscure: his eighth cousin is Dick Cheney. The revelation that the man promising a new style of politics is related to a vice-president credited with an unprecedented attempt to consolidate the power of old politics was made by Mr Cheney's wife.

Lynne Cheney told an interviewer that she discovered the connection between her husband and the candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination while researching a memoir of growing up in Wyoming, entitled Blue Skies, No Fences, although she did not include this fact in her memoir. She said that the two were both descended from a man who moved to Wyoming from Maryland.

"If you go back eight generations they have a common ancestor," she said. "This is such an amazing American story that one ancestor ... could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama." A spokeswoman for Mrs Cheney said that Mr Obama was descended from Mareen Duvall, a French Huguenot. His son married the granddaughter of one Richard Cheney, Susannah, who arrived in Maryland from England in the late 1650s.

The Duvalls are Mr Obama's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents, and the vice-president's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents.

A spokesman for Mr Obama made the wry observation that "every family has a black sheep".

Last month the Chicago Sun-Times revealed the equally startling news that Mr Obama is an 11th cousin of President George Bush, thanks to a 17th-century Massachusetts couple, Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole.
 

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Re: Barack Obama on Hip-Hop... a great interview
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2008, 03:00:12 PM »

I have only just noticed this retort of yours and it's apparent that you have rejected it out of hand. I just did a quick google search and found this reported in one of the most popular newspapers in Europe.


Obama is vice-president's distant cousin, says Cheney's wife

    * Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
    * The Guardian,
    * Thursday October 18 2007
    * Article history

About this article
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This article appeared in the Guardian on Thursday October 18 2007 on p18 of the International section. It was last updated at 15:47 on October 19 2007.
Barack Obama makes much of his varied heritage. His father was from Kenya, his mother from Kansas. But there is one element of his family history that has remained obscure: his eighth cousin is Dick Cheney. The revelation that the man promising a new style of politics is related to a vice-president credited with an unprecedented attempt to consolidate the power of old politics was made by Mr Cheney's wife.

Lynne Cheney told an interviewer that she discovered the connection between her husband and the candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination while researching a memoir of growing up in Wyoming, entitled Blue Skies, No Fences, although she did not include this fact in her memoir. She said that the two were both descended from a man who moved to Wyoming from Maryland.

"If you go back eight generations they have a common ancestor," she said. "This is such an amazing American story that one ancestor ... could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama." A spokeswoman for Mrs Cheney said that Mr Obama was descended from Mareen Duvall, a French Huguenot. His son married the granddaughter of one Richard Cheney, Susannah, who arrived in Maryland from England in the late 1650s.

The Duvalls are Mr Obama's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents, and the vice-president's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents.

A spokesman for Mr Obama made the wry observation that "every family has a black sheep".

Last month the Chicago Sun-Times revealed the equally startling news that Mr Obama is an 11th cousin of President George Bush, thanks to a 17th-century Massachusetts couple, Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole.

At that distance... I am related to George Lopez, and no lie... Oscar De La Hoya.... lol Oh my god, Obama's family came to the Americas in the 1650's... and 350 years later their great great great great great great great great great grandkids are fighting for power... lol.