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Why do you superiority comples white people act like I'm making this stuff up?  Read what I have written below, and tell me Tim Russert and Hillary were not acting devilish...

Tim Russert asked Obama two questions last debate, in a hidden effort to drive a wedge between black people. 

First, he questioned Obama in a deragatory manner about pictures of him dressed in Somalian turban and robe (pictures Clintons staff put out).   What was the hidden agenda, to make Obama reject his fellow Africans?  To drive a wedge between him and his continent of origion?  Would that make white voters feel better for him to be ashamed of himself just for dressing in traditional African Somali dress?  Is that something to be ashamed of? 

Secondly, Tim Russert and Hillary Clinton backed Obama into a corner and made him reject the honorable minister Louis Farrakhan, in favor of none other then the powerful Jewish man.  It wasn't enough for Hillary that Obama said he denounced Farakhans statements against Jews.  She wanted him to reject Farakhan all together.  Why?  Why is it so important for her to drvie a wedge between Obama and minister Farrakhan?  Obama's father is an African, Farakhan taught black people who were taught by the white man to be ashamed of Africa... that they should love their African brothers and sisters and be united with them.... and now Russert and Hillary demand he reject Farakhan on a national stage!

This kind of dirty politics should outrage people but I haven't seen anyone other than my man Job speak out against this aweful behaivor!
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals white mans hidden nature
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 06:18:42 PM »
Well first off, fighting for the presidency is a dirty business. Obama is not the first person who has to experience that. Don't seperate him just cause you love his skin tone.
Next, Farakhan can suck a dick. Denouncing his racist ass is nothing anybody should have a problem with. He could pull me out of a burning car and I'd still tell him that I disagree with a lot of stuff he stands for.


What is really interesting, though, how come a black man with roots to Africa (real roots, not some pseudo-roots a lot of African-Americans claim) is one of the top 3 persons to become president next year, while winning all those smaller, caucasian states? Even red states? Your racist ass can't explain that kind of shit huh? Or maybe you think all those caucasians voting for him just think he's cute, and give him their vote to patronize black people.
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals white mans hidden nature
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 06:31:38 PM »
This does bring up a good point. If you go to Yahoo Search, and type in "Muslim", the automatic finish thing that pulls down has 3 of the 5 options related to Barack Obama. He doesn't even practice Islam, and he is still tied to it because of his father's background. This topic is actually on point, America is scared of the possibility of having a non-Protestant or Catholic president. I think it was a major factor for Mitt Romney losing so much ground on the Republican side, and you can already see how they are trying to casually attach the Muslim thing to Obama, like it's a bad thing. As his entire campaign has gotten stronger, and a few prominent black politicians have or are getting close to switching their endorsements from Hilary to Obama, this was a desperate attempt to try and put him in a position where he either seemed too "militant" because of that, or like he was too soft. The media only pays attention to the bullshit he said/she said things, but doesn't expose this for the bullshit that it was.


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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals white mans hidden nature
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 07:24:10 PM »
This does bring up a good point. If you go to Yahoo Search, and type in "Muslim", the automatic finish thing that pulls down has 3 of the 5 options related to Barack Obama. He doesn't even practice Islam, and he is still tied to it because of his father's background. This topic is actually on point, America is scared of the possibility of having a non-Protestant or Catholic president. I think it was a major factor for Mitt Romney losing so much ground on the Republican side, and you can already see how they are trying to casually attach the Muslim thing to Obama, like it's a bad thing. As his entire campaign has gotten stronger, and a few prominent black politicians have or are getting close to switching their endorsements from Hilary to Obama, this was a desperate attempt to try and put him in a position where he either seemed too "militant" because of that, or like he was too soft. The media only pays attention to the bullshit he said/she said things, but doesn't expose this for the bullshit that it was.


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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 07:46:52 PM »
I understand that Obama has to denounce Farrakhan to remain relevant but
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 11:15:51 PM »
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 11:22:14 PM »
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 12:47:42 AM »
Why do you superiority comples white people act like I'm making this stuff up?  Read what I have written below, and tell me Tim Russert and Hillary were not acting devilish...

Tim Russert asked Obama two questions last debate, in a hidden effort to drive a wedge between black people. 

First, he questioned Obama in a deragatory manner about pictures of him dressed in Somalian turban and robe (pictures Clintons staff put out).   What was the hidden agenda, to make Obama reject his fellow Africans?  To drive a wedge between him and his continent of origion?  Would that make white voters feel better for him to be ashamed of himself just for dressing in traditional African Somali dress?  Is that something to be ashamed of? 

Secondly, Tim Russert and Hillary Clinton backed Obama into a corner and made him reject the honorable minister Louis Farrakhan, in favor of none other then the powerful Jewish man.  It wasn't enough for Hillary that Obama said he denounced Farakhans statements against Jews.  She wanted him to reject Farakhan all together.  Why?  Why is it so important for her to drvie a wedge between Obama and minister Farrakhan?  Obama's father is an African, Farakhan taught black people who were taught by the white man to be ashamed of Africa... that they should love their African brothers and sisters and be united with them.... and now Russert and Hillary demand he reject Farakhan on a national stage!

This kind of dirty politics should outrage people but I haven't seen anyone other than my man Job speak out against this aweful behaivor!

I noticed that too. They even wanted him to say "Don't support me, Louis." LMAO. I thought Obama handled it just as well as anybody could have though.
 

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 12:55:27 AM »
Well first off, fighting for the presidency is a dirty business. Obama is not the first person who has to experience that. Don't seperate him just cause you love his skin tone.
Next, Farakhan can suck a dick. A. Denouncing his racist ass is nothing anybody should have a problem with. He could pull me out of a burning car and I'd still tell him that I disagree with a lot of stuff he stands for.


What is really interesting, though, how come a black man with roots to Africa (real roots, B. not some pseudo-roots a lot of African-Americans claim) is one of the top 3 persons to become president next year, while winning all those smaller, caucasian states? Even red states? Your racist ass can't explain that kind of shit huh? Or maybe you think all those caucasians voting for him just think he's cute, and give him their vote to patronize black people.

A. LOL, poor white people. They have suffered for hundreds of years, been beaten, lynched, enslaved, separated from their families, castrated, mutilated, demonized, humiliated, disrespected, kidnapped, gang raped and sodomized by Louis Farakhan and his "racist ass." White people complaining about racism is one of the most bullshit things imaginable. The racism whites experience compared to the racism they dish out is one of the most trivial things I can think of.

B. Would you care to explain to me what black people DON't have REAL African roots?
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 01:53:19 AM »
Well first off, fighting for the presidency is a dirty business. Obama is not the first person who has to experience that. Don't seperate him just cause you love his skin tone.
Next, Farakhan can suck a dick. A. Denouncing his racist ass is nothing anybody should have a problem with. He could pull me out of a burning car and I'd still tell him that I disagree with a lot of stuff he stands for.


What is really interesting, though, how come a black man with roots to Africa (real roots, B. not some pseudo-roots a lot of African-Americans claim) is one of the top 3 persons to become president next year, while winning all those smaller, caucasian states? Even red states? Your racist ass can't explain that kind of shit huh? Or maybe you think all those caucasians voting for him just think he's cute, and give him their vote to patronize black people.

A. LOL, poor white people. They have suffered for hundreds of years, been beaten, lynched, enslaved, separated from their families, castrated, mutilated, demonized, humiliated, disrespected, kidnapped, gang raped and sodomized by Louis Farakhan and his "racist ass." White people complaining about racism is one of the most bullshit things imaginable. The racism whites experience compared to the racism they dish out is one of the most trivial things I can think of.

B. Would you care to explain to me what black people DON't have REAL African roots?

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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals white mans hidden nature
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 05:50:49 AM »
Well first off, fighting for the presidency is a dirty business. Obama is not the first person who has to experience that. Don't seperate him just cause you love his skin tone.
Next, Farakhan can suck a dick. A. Denouncing his racist ass is nothing anybody should have a problem with. He could pull me out of a burning car and I'd still tell him that I disagree with a lot of stuff he stands for.


What is really interesting, though, how come a black man with roots to Africa (real roots, B. not some pseudo-roots a lot of African-Americans claim) is one of the top 3 persons to become president next year, while winning all those smaller, caucasian states? Even red states? Your racist ass can't explain that kind of shit huh? Or maybe you think all those caucasians voting for him just think he's cute, and give him their vote to patronize black people.

A. LOL, poor white people. They have suffered for hundreds of years, been beaten, lynched, enslaved, separated from their families, castrated, mutilated, demonized, humiliated, disrespected, kidnapped, gang raped and sodomized by Louis Farakhan and his "racist ass." White people complaining about racism is one of the most bullshit things imaginable. The racism whites experience compared to the racism they dish out is one of the most trivial things I can think of.

B. Would you care to explain to me what black people DON't have REAL African roots?

All I said in that post is right and can't be refuted. You getting emotional about it is not going to change shit.

A. Yeah, right. Do you see Jews making up retarded religions dedicated to hate towards Germans? Do you see Jews rapping about gassing up Germans all the time, or making up retarded ass synonyms for them, like "devils", "crackers" or something? 2 wrongs don't make a right. White people in the past haven't lynched and enslaved blacks because they were so damn dedicated to being racist, but because they could. It was rather practical than emotional. White people weren't the only ones enslaving people. Why do you overlook people of latin origin so easily? Also, just look @ some African places even right now, I would prefer working for a rich white man instead of living there, easily. Some places have even gone worse since the white settlement left off. White people give you affirmative action now, what more do you want? I mean seriously, what is that you want from us? Farrakhan is a blatant racist and no lynching of the past could ever change that. You might call it righteous (that word them black nationalists seem to like) racism, but it is still what it is.

B. If you want to get technical everybody has "real African roots", like some blacks claim. Whether it's 400 years or 4000 years doesn't matter. All those sons of slaves have been so americanized and mixed with other races that I won't consider them African. They are black Americans. Obama on the other hand has a father from Kenya. He has real African roots. Most of those blacks who claim African roots have had their bloodline in America for way too long, whether they like it or not.




BTW: The main problem I have with people who criticize white "crimes" is that they fail to realize that it's about opportunity and power and not about race. Blacks simply haven't had the opportunities that white people have and had in the past. I hear black nationalists talk about whites killing animals for fancy clothing or fucking up the rain forest or the ozone layer. Those are all things that have to do with power. Whoever has the power to exploit certain things - not whoever is white. Just look@some places in which blacks have the power now in Africa. They cut off hands and kill random people (white and black), all over bullshit.

Way back in the day white people simply had the power to enslave blacks, and not the other way around. Period. Trust me, there is nothing in my genes that urges me to lock you into my attic, honestly.
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals white mans hidden nature
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 11:57:08 AM »
Well first off, fighting for the presidency is a dirty business. Obama is not the first person who has to experience that. Don't seperate him just cause you love his skin tone.
Next, Farakhan can suck a dick. A. Denouncing his racist ass is nothing anybody should have a problem with. He could pull me out of a burning car and I'd still tell him that I disagree with a lot of stuff he stands for.


What is really interesting, though, how come a black man with roots to Africa (real roots, B. not some pseudo-roots a lot of African-Americans claim) is one of the top 3 persons to become president next year, while winning all those smaller, caucasian states? Even red states? Your racist ass can't explain that kind of shit huh? Or maybe you think all those caucasians voting for him just think he's cute, and give him their vote to patronize black people.

A. LOL, poor white people. They have suffered for hundreds of years, been beaten, lynched, enslaved, separated from their families, castrated, mutilated, demonized, humiliated, disrespected, kidnapped, gang raped and sodomized by Louis Farakhan and his "racist ass." White people complaining about racism is one of the most bullshit things imaginable. The racism whites experience compared to the racism they dish out is one of the most trivial things I can think of.

B. Would you care to explain to me what black people DON't have REAL African roots?

All I said in that post is right and can't be refuted. You getting emotional about it is not going to change shit.

A. Yeah, right. Do you see Jews making up retarded religions dedicated to hate towards Germans? Do you see Jews rapping about gassing up Germans all the time, or making up retarded ass synonyms for them, like "devils", "crackers" or something? 2 wrongs don't make a right. White people in the past haven't lynched and enslaved blacks because they were so damn dedicated to being racist, but because they could. It was rather practical than emotional. White people weren't the only ones enslaving people. Why do you overlook people of latin origin so easily? Also, just look @ some African places even right now, I would prefer working for a rich white man instead of living there, easily. Some places have even gone worse since the white settlement left off. White people give you affirmative action now, what more do you want? I mean seriously, what is that you want from us? Farrakhan is a blatant racist and no lynching of the past could ever change that. You might call it righteous (that word them black nationalists seem to like) racism, but it is still what it is.

B. If you want to get technical everybody has "real African roots", like some blacks claim. Whether it's 400 years or 4000 years doesn't matter. All those sons of slaves have been so americanized and mixed with other races that I won't consider them African. They are black Americans. Obama on the other hand has a father from Kenya. He has real African roots. Most of those blacks who claim African roots have had their bloodline in America for way too long, whether they like it or not.




BTW: The main problem I have with people who criticize white "crimes" is that they fail to realize that it's about opportunity and power and not about race. Blacks simply haven't had the opportunities that white people have and had in the past. I hear black nationalists talk about whites killing animals for fancy clothing or fucking up the rain forest or the ozone layer. Those are all things that have to do with power. Whoever has the power to exploit certain things - not whoever is white. Just look@some places in which blacks have the power now in Africa. They cut off hands and kill random people (white and black), all over bullshit.

Way back in the day white people simply had the power to enslave blacks, and not the other way around. Period. Trust me, there is nothing in my genes that urges me to lock you into my attic, honestly.

7even, I know your style is to try to use your own logic without actually reading and researching.

But that was funny when you said something in your reply like, "I don't see Jews making up a religion to hate Germans".  Well, maybe you forgot one of the most important pieces of religious history but I'm sure your aware of the concept Jews have made up in their religion regarding Jew vs. Gentile (non-Jew) and the superiority of a Jew over the Gentile.  For example a Jew is not allowed to charge interest/usury and plunge a fellow Jew into debt but they can indebt a Gentile all they want, etc.   ....Ohhhh but you may have missed that minor, insignificant event in religious history.

If you do, however, know what the Torah says in regards to the Jews superiority over the Gentile then how can you be so quick to critisize Farrakhan for allegedly believing blacks are superior to whites, and say nothing about the Jews belief of superiority over the Gentile (non-Jew).   

Now, you will probably say your an atheist and against all religion, but the fact that you defended the European Jew, gave him a free pass, and attacked Farrakhan, displays your racism openly.
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 12:11:46 PM »
My post was not intended to make Jews look good at all. They are not even my concern in this thread. I just used them as an example to illustrate what those blacks are doing. Gentiles are non-Jews, full stop. If some teachings teach them Jews that they are superior to Gentiles, then of course that is a problem. I'm not going to defend that. What I am saying is that even though the Jews often get criticized for being little bitches who cry about how they have been abused throughout history and everything, some blacks do exactly the same... I'm the last person to become a zionist, but lol@ you for acknowledging history when it involves black struggle but never when it involves non-black struggle. That was my point. I never said that Jews are perfect or anything.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 02:54:59 PM »
Well first off, fighting for the presidency is a dirty business. Obama is not the first person who has to experience that. Don't seperate him just cause you love his skin tone.
Next, Farakhan can suck a dick. A. Denouncing his racist ass is nothing anybody should have a problem with. He could pull me out of a burning car and I'd still tell him that I disagree with a lot of stuff he stands for.


What is really interesting, though, how come a black man with roots to Africa (real roots, B. not some pseudo-roots a lot of African-Americans claim) is one of the top 3 persons to become president next year, while winning all those smaller, caucasian states? Even red states? Your racist ass can't explain that kind of shit huh? Or maybe you think all those caucasians voting for him just think he's cute, and give him their vote to patronize black people.

A. LOL, poor white people. They have suffered for hundreds of years, been beaten, lynched, enslaved, separated from their families, castrated, mutilated, demonized, humiliated, disrespected, kidnapped, gang raped and sodomized by Louis Farakhan and his "racist ass." White people complaining about racism is one of the most bullshit things imaginable. The racism whites experience compared to the racism they dish out is one of the most trivial things I can think of.

B. Would you care to explain to me what black people DON't have REAL African roots?

All I said in that post is right and can't be refuted. You getting emotional about it is not going to change shit.

A. Yeah, right. Do you see Jews making up retarded religions dedicated to hate towards Germans? Do you see Jews rapping about gassing up Germans all the time, or making up retarded ass synonyms for them, like "devils", "crackers" or something? 2 wrongs don't make a right. White people in the past haven't lynched and enslaved blacks because they were so damn dedicated to being racist, but because they could. It was rather practical than emotional. White people weren't the only ones enslaving people. Why do you overlook people of latin origin so easily? Also, just look @ some African places even right now, I would prefer working for a rich white man instead of living there, easily. Some places have even gone worse since the white settlement left off. White people give you affirmative action now, what more do you want? I mean seriously, what is that you want from us? Farrakhan is a blatant racist and no lynching of the past could ever change that. You might call it righteous (that word them black nationalists seem to like) racism, but it is still what it is.

B. If you want to get technical everybody has "real African roots", like some blacks claim. Whether it's 400 years or 4000 years doesn't matter. All those sons of slaves have been so americanized and mixed with other races that I won't consider them African. They are black Americans. Obama on the other hand has a father from Kenya. He has real African roots. Most of those blacks who claim African roots have had their bloodline in America for way too long, whether they like it or not.




BTW: The main problem I have with people who criticize white "crimes" is that they fail to realize that it's about opportunity and power and not about race. Blacks simply haven't had the opportunities that white people have and had in the past. I hear black nationalists talk about whites killing animals for fancy clothing or fucking up the rain forest or the ozone layer. Those are all things that have to do with power. Whoever has the power to exploit certain things - not whoever is white. Just look@some places in which blacks have the power now in Africa. They cut off hands and kill random people (white and black), all over bullshit.

Way back in the day white people simply had the power to enslave blacks, and not the other way around. Period. Trust me, there is nothing in my genes that urges me to lock you into my attic, honestly.

A. Inf already addressed the Jews in his response, not really much need to keep going on that (but there are other examples, but anyway, moving on...). All I can say is WOOOOOOW! Did you really just attempt to JUSTIFY SLAVERY??? Affirmative action makes up for it? Are you out of your natural "cotton-pickin" mind? Its cool to disagree but try to make some damn sense.
   Why do I overlook people of Latin origin so easily? Maybe because nobody is talking about Latins. But since you brought it up, do you mean the Latin American civilizations that WHITE Spanish Europeans conquered? Or do you mean some other indigenous Latin American country that had slaves that wasn't conquered by Spain? Oh yeah, there isn't one. Nice try though.


B. However you try to spin it, ALL black people have roots in Africa. REAL roots. Black people did not come from Jamaica Queens, Compton or Atlanta. I'll let you guess where they came from. Stop trying to downplay all this shit. I still can't believe you said "we gave you affirmative action." Thats fucking amazing to me. Affirmative action does not "fix" white racism and damn sure does not undue the damage that has been done to the black race for generations. Slavery and everything that came with it can be traced either by proxy or directly to the problems that blacks in this country have historically faced. But hell, everybody is supposed to forget about that because blacks now have a.04% better chance of getting a particular job now. Way to level the playing field! I LOOOOOOVE MASSA!!! Want me to dance a jig now?
 

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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 03:24:43 PM »
Lol homie you are too emotional to lead a rational discussion. Give it a couple days rest and then we can talk, maybe. As of right now it does not seem to be possible. It is not possible to justify slavery, and affirmative action does not make up for it, just to clarify that one. LOL
 

Again, they say that technically everybody comes from Africa, so what does make "your" African roots so special? There's black people outside of Africa in case you don't know. When I talk about real roots I talk about bloodline that doesn't got back for too long. Don't you see a difference between having a father from Kenya and being a regular black American?

None of you guys answered this one so far: How come Obama is having a serious shot at the presidency if white people are the devil?
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 04:10:10 PM »
Lol homie you are too emotional to lead a rational discussion. Give it a couple days rest and then we can talk, maybe. As of right now it does not seem to be possible. It is not possible to justify slavery, and affirmative action does not make up for it, just to clarify that one. LOL
 

Again, they say that technically everybody comes from Africa, so what does make "your" African roots so special? There's black people outside of Africa in case you don't know. When I talk about real roots I talk about bloodline that doesn't got back for too long. Don't you see a difference between having a father from Kenya and being a regular black American?

None of you guys answered this one so far: How come Obama is having a serious shot at the presidency if white people are the devil?

LOL get the fuck outta here. I'm not emotional at all. And try to stick to one stance. It takes the fun out of picking your reasoning apart when you change positions like that. And who is this "they" that says everybody came from Africa? Yes I see the difference of having a parent directly from Africa, but that is not to say that blacks here have only "pseudo" African roots. Every black person has direct African roots. They may not practice traditional African culture, but I'll let you figure out why that is.
 

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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 05:02:36 PM »
I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 05:18:44 PM »
I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.

OK, so you weren't basically saying whites and blacks are even for slavery since "yall" gave blacks Affirmative Action? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but thats the impression I got.
 

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 05:52:13 PM »
I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.

OK, so you weren't basically saying whites and blacks are even for slavery since "yall" gave blacks Affirmative Action? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but thats the impression I got.

Nah, that would be outrageous. That's like offering a job to somebody after raping his daughter and thinking it will be all gravy then.

My point with affirmative action was that the white man is reaching out to you guys, voting for Obama and everything, and that it's time to stop all that hate and whining because of the past. I just doesn't help neither one of us. There is nothing to "get even" to. What's done is done. Would it make sense to lynch random whites now just to get even? That's retarded. People have to move on without all that race stuff in the back of their heads.
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2008, 05:35:43 PM »
I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.

OK, so you weren't basically saying whites and blacks are even for slavery since "yall" gave blacks Affirmative Action? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but thats the impression I got.

Nah, that would be outrageous. That's like offering a job to somebody after raping his daughter and thinking it will be all gravy then.

My point with affirmative action was that the white man is reaching out to you guys, voting for Obama and everything, and that it's time to stop all that hate and whining because of the past. I just doesn't help neither one of us. There is nothing to "get even" to. What's done is done. Would it make sense to lynch random whites now just to get even? That's retarded. People have to move on without all that race stuff in the back of their heads.

Hmm... I think affirmative action was more of a PR move than anything, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't make much of a difference. It serves to make "the man" look like he cares above all else.
    There are no simple solutions or quick fixes to the historical obstacles facing black communities. Simply "forgetting the past" is not going to solve anything. The culture of slavery and the century or so that followed is probably the greatest of all causes that bred the culture of ignorance, poverty and the general sense of hopelessness that has permeated the black community since the days of slavery. Educate yourself and make something positive of yourself and you are an uncle tom or a "house nigger." Can you see how certain things like making it illegal (as far as the plantations are concerned) for blacks to read or face mutilation or death can make it the "thing to do" to be uneducated? Keep in mind that when the slave owners did these things, they often did them in front of the rest of the slaves to serve as an example to the others of what will happen if you try to educate yourself. That sends an unimaginably powerful message to the people. Is it any wonder then, that the so called "black" thing to do is usually the ignorant thing to do?
  See, my point is, its not good enough to say "whats done is done, now lets move on." Indeed, what's done IS in fact done. Now the question is, what is going to be done to rectify it and how much longer of a wait is it going to be? Its not going to get any easier the more time passes. The damage is done and has permeated generation after generation because these are the lessons that get handed down either by word of mouth or by observation of the children. Something needs to be done to correct this, and I'm sorry, but affirmative action simply isn't cutting it, and its not like its ONLY for black descendants of slaves.
    I argued in an essay for some class I had a few semesters ago that what would help, would be to offer a free college education to descendants of slaves for a period of generations equal to that of slavery. This would serve to alleviate the mentality of ignorance and breed a new black community that values education and affluence. Maybe not perfect, but I'm sure a lot of people would take that over 40 acres and a fuckin mule (which was promised and to this day still not delivered). Other ethnicities have suffered lesser atrocities and have had steps taken to correct them by the US government (internment camps, anyone?). Why should blacks not receive anything after enduring the most diabolical injustice in American history, which as I have noted, reaches far beyond the actual slavery that took places for centuries?
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2008, 05:53:30 PM »
Well, it's called free will. It's up to blacks what they want to do with their lives. Blocking your own kind from getting an education by calling them house niggers, uncle toms or white-washed is not going to help, obviously. But that is an image that blacks have to change from within, it's not for whites to say what is looked upon as cool inside of black communities.
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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2008, 07:30:10 PM »
abdul aka white bryan from the midwest is so pathetic. his redneck upbringing and lack of brains totally fucked up his chance of a clear view of reality.
 

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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals white mans hidden nature
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2008, 02:42:27 AM »
Imma get in on this, I dunno what you arguing about, but I just saw the word 'jew'.

A. Yeah, right. Do you see Jews making up retarded religions dedicated to hate towards Germans?

Yes, its called Zionism and it's a sinister movement (although it was originally OK and understandable) with the ability to wage sophisticated sublimal and overt propaganda/ smear campaigns.


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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2008, 04:34:43 AM »
Hmm... I think affirmative action was more of a PR move than anything, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't make much of a difference. It serves to make "the man" look like he cares above all else.
    There are no simple solutions or quick fixes to the historical obstacles facing black communities. Simply "forgetting the past" is not going to solve anything. The culture of slavery and the century or so that followed is probably the greatest of all causes that bred the culture of ignorance, poverty and the general sense of hopelessness that has permeated the black community since the days of slavery. Educate yourself and make something positive of yourself and you are an uncle tom or a "house nigger." Can you see how certain things like making it illegal (as far as the plantations are concerned) for blacks to read or face mutilation or death can make it the "thing to do" to be uneducated? Keep in mind that when the slave owners did these things, they often did them in front of the rest of the slaves to serve as an example to the others of what will happen if you try to educate yourself. That sends an unimaginably powerful message to the people. Is it any wonder then, that the so called "black" thing to do is usually the ignorant thing to do?
  See, my point is, its not good enough to say "whats done is done, now lets move on." Indeed, what's done IS in fact done. Now the question is, what is going to be done to rectify it and how much longer of a wait is it going to be? Its not going to get any easier the more time passes. The damage is done and has permeated generation after generation because these are the lessons that get handed down either by word of mouth or by observation of the children. Something needs to be done to correct this, and I'm sorry, but affirmative action simply isn't cutting it, and its not like its ONLY for black descendants of slaves.
    I argued in an essay for some class I had a few semesters ago that what would help, would be to offer a free college education to descendants of slaves for a period of generations equal to that of slavery. This would serve to alleviate the mentality of ignorance and breed a new black community that values education and affluence. Maybe not perfect, but I'm sure a lot of people would take that over 40 acres and a fuckin mule (which was promised and to this day still not delivered). Other ethnicities have suffered lesser atrocities and have had steps taken to correct them by the US government (internment camps, anyone?). Why should blacks not receive anything after enduring the most diabolical injustice in American history, which as I have noted, reaches far beyond the actual slavery that took places for centuries?
That's an interesting take, although I cannot wholeheartedly agree with it.

First off, I think Farrakhan is a fascist asshole and either is too dumb to see how his "support" for Obama facilitates things for Clinton and is of great help in her dirty vilification campaign OR he just doesn't want Obama to be president in a similar way that militant Jews and militant Palestinians in Israel don't want peace; if the most powerful man in the world is black all of a sudden, things will not be easier for him and his brainwashed ideology.

Second thing: I think 7even meant by "real" or "not real" roots that, assuming that humanity evolved solely in Africa (which is very likely according to current scientific data), you could trace anyone's roots back to Africa, be that a Norwegian's, an Armenian's or a frickin Aborigine's. I'm not gonna argue about this, just kinda felt you had a little communication problem there :)

There are no simple solutions to the problems we are being confronted with in the aftermath of racist white domination and European colonialization, that is of course correct. A problem that we have here is that no child on this planet is born guilty of the atrocities and crimes committed by his/her ancestors, however hideous they were. This is not to say that in today's society we should not feel obliged to improve the conditions for everyone who's been born into poverty and is unfairly handicapped in whatever way. I do absolutely think we have to, but what won't do shit for anyone is creating retarded ideologies and neo-cults designed to "strike back", which is what Farrakhan (just one example of this sort of behavior, of course) does. What makes it all the worse is that those cults are designed for modern society and their ambitions and implications are veiled by a meretricious and hypocritical message of "peace", "equality" and some more blahblah that sounds "righteous" (a word that has been bludgeoned to death by those people), and spiced up with entirely fallacious pseudo-science that won't stand the test of any halfway serious research. This all adds up to a blurry, mind-numb picture like the one drawn by Ras Kass in "Nature of the Threat", e.g., and results in nothing but conflict. It would be a monumental historical moment if anyone ever managed to establish peace in that way and, aside from the fact that it obviously contradicts human nature to get along with each other supported by such ideology in the background, it has never happened in the history of this goddamn planet.

Now, what is absolutely true, to get back to that, is that what whites did to blacks for centuries is hideous and has inflicted permanent damage. This is the main reason why you're completely right that "hey, let's forget about this and be buddies" won't do it. I'm not saying I have the solution to this problem, because really solving it (no doubt we haven't yet) is an incredibly difficult long-term goal to achieve. But what I know for sure that it takes is willingness to cooperate from both sides and mutual respect among people. The intellectual change quite necessarily precedes the practical one. In the 21st century, we're at a point at which any reasonable person should be at the point of settling on a) no one being superior to anyone for crap reasons like their skin color and b) Europeans having inflicted the most damage in the last few centuries. What will help us in achieving that c) no one will have to worry about being oppressed due to skin color, ethicity, gender, etc. is accepting just that, teaching people about it and building on it. What will not help at all is making up bullshit ideologies reversing the same retarded supremacy claims whites made for a long time modern-age style and backing it up with religious rhethorics and dimwitted pseudo-science.
 

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Re: Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
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I agree with what you are saying but whites have had their serfdom to it just hasn't been at the same level of what the blacks have had done to them. Ultimately it's about the people at the very top of the food chain, the ones that went along with the system are just the useful idiots/the pawns. Although having said that, I don't believe that compensation should be given to people, that is just setting the clocks back.  Also, how would that be fair on the chinese? who suffered at the hands of the CIA backed Mao, the rural ukranians who were driven to the point of extinction by the Bolsheviks? the Iraqis, if we were to look at horrific history, hundreds of millions of people have been mercilessly destroyed whether physically, economically, spiritually etc. I see the greatest problelem in all of this with the infinite compensating of the victims families of the holocaust. No one should be compensated for previous actions because we all know that even if it were agreed to, you discriminate against another group and I don't feel it's morally justifiable to distinguish between one mass indiscriminate genocide and another.  Secondly any such compensation would hit the ordinary working class and the middle class because were such a change to result, they would say yes we can compensate but we are going to have to double the rate of income tax for example in order to pay for this.
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