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so why do they control the whole idea of being strong on national security?



theyre always wrong. they ignore common sense. they selectively distort history. yet the american people have ceded this category to republicans





only in america, is shoot first ask questions later...."strong on national security"



only in america, is fighting a war that was drafted four decades ago, an indicator of being strong on defence, when the war youre currently fighting, you were wrong about





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yeah no shit, they are scumbags who see the world solely in black and white like a fucking child. thats why i stay in major cities where there ignorance is widely ignored.
 

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I take it you are talking about conservative supporters and not the military planners/pentagon?. I was going to say that the latter are anything but dumb, everything they do, they do with precision, even when it looks like a "mess" it serves a bigger purpose. The former, of course you are right but lets not get this twisted, the canadians swallowed the bullshit about Kosovo hook line and sinker, as did most english. In fact whenever a historian attempted to address the issue, they were denounced and shouted down by some shit for brains saying no no i saw the images of the man starving to death in the concentration camps, the genocide being perpetrated there ets.. Also there is an attempt to accept well maybe we shouldn't be in Iraq but we should be in Afghanistan, when the wahabi sect islamic fighters/terrorists are bred by Saudi Arabia, funded by the west and saudi arabia and then used in so many of these conflicts. In a perverse sense, you have to admire the strategists for their cunning but overall, even without knowing that the western intelligence runs the wahabi's it's not hard to realise that the home of these fighters is fiercely protected. So I disagree on this one, the west as a whole is shit for brains, it's just a lot of the conservatives you mention, or who think of themselves that way, are the extreme end of the thick shit.
 

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i was talking about conservative Americans. and as far as the west being shit for brains, thats a pretty lofty naive point of view. I'd say it's human beings as a whole who aren't as sophisticated as some of us would like to think we are.
 

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Well I would call them neo-conservatives. Ron Paul type conservatives are not dumb people. People that wish upon socialist regimes such as Obama and clinton and think we can solve the biggest problem our country faces. THE ECONOMY.
 

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You are right but so many people are so dumbed down, reading is down, you need lower pass rates to succeed, older people are forever trapped into this mentality where they are either completely apathetic and don't care but can have their attention gripped by the words fighting terrorism, or they are completely taken with this idea that the government ultimately acts for the good of the people. In reality government working for the betterment of the people electing them is something of a utopia and things have got worse.  Here is another example I am not an economics genius but it doesn't and didn't take a genius to work out that a nation and western world dependent on credit, stripping itself of value added jobs, coupled with mass immigration, coupled with destroying wheat crops and replacing that area with corn for biofuel, was going to lead to something very bad. Yet despite the obvious, whenever I brought this up whether at college, university, on a forum or wherever else, i was dismissed as being paranoid or a "conspiracy theorist" .The economists presented on television said no everything is wonderful the government said the same to and people said oh a collapse can't happen. Fast forward a few years and no wave after wave of reports are coming out, indicating that the sub prime problems were the tip of the iceberg for an all encompassing collapse. It really is like people can't put 2 and 2 together and now a great depression is on the cards and the consequences of that are just unimaginable. I don't want to elaborate on that because having even just skimmed over the consequences of the last great depression, it's horrific to put it mildly.
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American Conservatives? LOL

George Bush started two wars, one in Afganistan, one in Iraq.  He had the full support of nearly the entire U.S. congress when he did so, including all the democrats. 

Before him, Bill Clinton stated several times that there were nuclear weapons being made in Iraq.  He's a democrat, a liberal.  You're talking about selectively remembering history, bitch, do you selectively remember that?  Since you're not even American, do you even know what I'm talking about?

When the Lewinsky scandal broke, three days after testifying in congress about it Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan to try and take the heat off.  That's a liberal foriegn policy for you.  He claimed at the time the factory was being used to train Al Qaeda, but when offered 3 different times by various countries Osama Bin Ladin's head on a stick, he refused all three times.  Of course 3 years later Bin Ladin pulled off the most successful attack against America since Pearl Harbor.  THANKS, BILL! 

Before Clinton, Bush Sr. started a war with Iraq as well, with the full support of the democrats in Congress.   

Sorry, but the liberals are just as involved as any of the conservatives.

Now, before Bush Sr., a true conservative held office, Ronald Reagan.  His foriegn policy was so strong he ended the cold war and defeated Soviet Russia without firing a single round.  Ronald Reagan was much more of a conservative than either Bush has been.

So effectively, your argument that conservative foriegn policy is bullshit is completly fucked.  Kind of like your smoke riddled mind, bitch.  The one conservative president we've had in 30 years ended wars with the wave of his hand, the other quasi-conservatives fought wars the liberals agreed with.  The one liberal president we've had bombed aspirin factorys and ignored genocide in Rwanda.

"All over the world there were people like me sitting in offices who did not fully appreciate the depth and the speed with which you were being engulfed by this unimaginable terror," - Bill Clinton

How's that for liberal foriegn policy?  You think Bush, Bush, or Reagan would have let half a billion people get systematically executed and not stepped in?  Even Clinton says he fucked up. 

I honestly believe you're not fucking intelligent enough to see both sides of something, though, so of course you dont' believe this, won't look at the basic facts of it, and are too ignorant to believe anything other than what your small mind has figured out.  Here, I'll sum up your thoughts.


"OOH OOH, BUSH BOMB BLACK MEN.  I BLACK COLOR.  BUSH CONSERVATIVE??? I HATE CONSERVATIVE NOW!!!!"

Stupid fucking monkey. 
 

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American Conservatives? LOL

George Bush started two wars, one in Afganistan, one in Iraq.  He had the full support of nearly the entire U.S. congress when he did so, including all the democrats. 

Before him, Bill Clinton stated several times that there were nuclear weapons being made in Iraq.  He's a democrat, a liberal.  You're talking about selectively remembering history, bitch, do you selectively remember that?  Since you're not even American, do you even know what I'm talking about?

When the Lewinsky scandal broke, three days after testifying in congress about it Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan to try and take the heat off.  That's a liberal foriegn policy for you.  He claimed at the time the factory was being used to train Al Qaeda, but when offered 3 different times by various countries Osama Bin Ladin's head on a stick, he refused all three times.  Of course 3 years later Bin Ladin pulled off the most successful attack against America since Pearl Harbor.  THANKS, BILL! 

Before Clinton, Bush Sr. started a war with Iraq as well, with the full support of the democrats in Congress.   

Sorry, but the liberals are just as involved as any of the conservatives.

Now, before Bush Sr., a true conservative held office, Ronald Reagan.  His foriegn policy was so strong he ended the cold war and defeated Soviet Russia without firing a single round.  Ronald Reagan was much more of a conservative than either Bush has been.

So effectively, your argument that conservative foriegn policy is bullshit is completly fucked.  Kind of like your smoke riddled mind, bitch.  The one conservative president we've had in 30 years ended wars with the wave of his hand, the other quasi-conservatives fought wars the liberals agreed with.  The one liberal president we've had bombed aspirin factorys and ignored genocide in Rwanda.

"All over the world there were people like me sitting in offices who did not fully appreciate the depth and the speed with which you were being engulfed by this unimaginable terror," - Bill Clinton

How's that for liberal foriegn policy?  You think Bush, Bush, or Reagan would have let half a billion people get systematically executed and not stepped in?  Even Clinton says he fucked up. 

I honestly believe you're not fucking intelligent enough to see both sides of something, though, so of course you dont' believe this, won't look at the basic facts of it, and are too ignorant to believe anything other than what your small mind has figured out.  Here, I'll sum up your thoughts.


"OOH OOH, BUSH BOMB BLACK MEN.  I BLACK COLOR.  BUSH CONSERVATIVE??? I HATE CONSERVATIVE NOW!!!!"

Stupid fucking monkey. 

Oh Im sorry sweetheart. Here, let me rephrase

Americans, in general, are absolute shit for brains, when it comes to foreign policy. Uneducated, ignorance, dumb, stupid shit for brains

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^^^^ And I highly doubt most "true liberals" consider Clinton to be a "true liberal".  It's funny how retards like Trauma distinguish between "true" and "fake" conservatives (Bushes vs. Reagan), but it doesn't occur to him that some liberals might not consider Clinton to be a "true liberal".
 

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^^^^ And I highly doubt most "true liberals" consider Clinton to be a "true liberal".  It's funny how retards like Trauma distinguish between "true" and "fake" conservatives (Bushes vs. Reagan), but it doesn't occur to him that some liberals might not consider Clinton to be a "true liberal".

Yeah, people seem to forget that when it comes to foreign policy you're either an idealist or realist.  It isn't like abortion where most liberals fall on the pro choice side and most conservatives fall on the pro life side, it's just a complete mixture with Democrats and Republicans on the idealist side. 
 

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American Conservatives? LOL

George Bush started two wars, one in Afganistan, one in Iraq.  He had the full support of nearly the entire U.S. congress when he did so, including all the democrats. 

Before him, Bill Clinton stated several times that there were nuclear weapons being made in Iraq.  He's a democrat, a liberal.  You're talking about selectively remembering history, bitch, do you selectively remember that?  Since you're not even American, do you even know what I'm talking about?

When the Lewinsky scandal broke, three days after testifying in congress about it Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan to try and take the heat off.  That's a liberal foriegn policy for you.  He claimed at the time the factory was being used to train Al Qaeda, but when offered 3 different times by various countries Osama Bin Ladin's head on a stick, he refused all three times.  Of course 3 years later Bin Ladin pulled off the most successful attack against America since Pearl Harbor.  THANKS, BILL! 

Before Clinton, Bush Sr. started a war with Iraq as well, with the full support of the democrats in Congress.   

Sorry, but the liberals are just as involved as any of the conservatives.

Now, before Bush Sr., a true conservative held office, Ronald Reagan.  His foriegn policy was so strong he ended the cold war and defeated Soviet Russia without firing a single round.  Ronald Reagan was much more of a conservative than either Bush has been.

So effectively, your argument that conservative foriegn policy is bullshit is completly fucked.  Kind of like your smoke riddled mind, bitch.  The one conservative president we've had in 30 years ended wars with the wave of his hand, the other quasi-conservatives fought wars the liberals agreed with.  The one liberal president we've had bombed aspirin factorys and ignored genocide in Rwanda.

"All over the world there were people like me sitting in offices who did not fully appreciate the depth and the speed with which you were being engulfed by this unimaginable terror," - Bill Clinton

How's that for liberal foriegn policy?  You think Bush, Bush, or Reagan would have let half a billion people get systematically executed and not stepped in?  Even Clinton says he fucked up. 

I honestly believe you're not fucking intelligent enough to see both sides of something, though, so of course you dont' believe this, won't look at the basic facts of it, and are too ignorant to believe anything other than what your small mind has figured out.  Here, I'll sum up your thoughts.


"OOH OOH, BUSH BOMB BLACK MEN.  I BLACK COLOR.  BUSH CONSERVATIVE??? I HATE CONSERVATIVE NOW!!!!"

Stupid fucking monkey. 


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