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I got some ridiculous Economic Stimulus Payment Notice thing in the mail.  Says something like many Americans are going to get $600 dollars in June as part of Bush's Economic stimulus package.  LOL... I will take the money, but I seriously doubt, them giving me 600 dollars is really going to help the economy.  What am I going to do, invest 600 dollars into creating new jobs and industry?  LOL.

What's even funnier is when they ask Obama and Hillary how they are going to stimulate the economy.  They both offer this fairytale scenario of how they are going to fix the economy, provide jobs, and solve the energy crisis, ALL AT THE SAME TIME!  LMAO!  Obama said something like he was going to  stimulate the economy by creating jobs that would research alternative sources of energy and also produce and distribute the energy, etc... and on and on...

This is all a joke.  Libertarians know and understand that there is no silver bullet.  The government can not fix the economy.  This is a myth.  Government interference only makes the economy worse.

Ron Paul was the only reality candidate.  He was the only honest candidate.  Other candidates like Obama, Hillary, and McCain want to lie to the American people and pretend they can fix the economy.  The truth is the economy can not always be strong.  It will go up and down and eventually the free market will work itself out.  It has to do this to maintain balance.



...as a side note...btw... Still.. Obama has swagger so I'm not going to hold this one against him too much. 8)
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Wow a post from you that I actually agree with.
 

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What's even funnier is when they ask Obama and Hillary how they are going to stimulate the economy.  They both offer this fairytale scenario of how they are going to fix the economy, provide jobs, and solve the energy crisis, ALL AT THE SAME TIME!  LMAO!  Obama said something like he was going to  stimulate the economy by creating jobs that would research alternative sources of energy and also produce and distribute the energy, etc... and on and on...

This is all a joke.  Libertarians know and understand that there is no silver bullet.  The government can not fix the economy.  This is a myth.  Government interference only makes the economy worse.

...as a side note...btw... Still.. Obama has swagger so I'm not going to hold this one against him too much. 8)

Obama is taking a page out of FDR's playbook which FDR used the need to upgrade the US highway system, and provide enviromental help in the US to put people to work during the depression. Some say that World War II pulled us out of the Depression, but by 1939 the US was already well on it's way out and these programs helped out greatly.
 

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Obama is taking a page out of FDR's playbook which FDR used the need to upgrade the US highway system, and provide enviromental help in the US to put people to work during the depression. Some say that World War II pulled us out of the Depression, but by 1939 the US was already well on it's way out and these programs helped out greatly.


That's a lie.  FDR's programs only made the economy worse.  I will find proof, give me some time.
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Obama is taking a page out of FDR's playbook which FDR used the need to upgrade the US highway system, and provide enviromental help in the US to put people to work during the depression. Some say that World War II pulled us out of the Depression, but by 1939 the US was already well on it's way out and these programs helped out greatly.


That's a lie.  FDR's programs only made the economy worse.  I will find proof, give me some time.

It'll take a lot of time. Short term the Depression got worst, but long term the US was hyper drived to the 50's and 60's and the greatest expanded economy in US history. This was popped in the 70's as LBJ expanded on FDR's program but also put us in war with Vietnam and drained our economy. Nixon was put in a bind as he did things that you might not agree with, like not allowing Christmas lights one year and a putting rations on things. The economy did not recover from KBJ until Reagan put in supply-side economics that that also resulted in a downturn in the economy short term but shot us into the 90's and the great Bill Clinton era that saw our first balanced budget. Then George W. Bush has fucked it all up.
 

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I still pray that a depression does not occur but note, this was created by the federal reserves and the other central banks. They flooded the economy with trillions in cheap credit, the service sector which mainly consists of low paid jobs has been driven by this credit culture and now the taps have been turned off. The second major culprit is the outsourcing of value added jobs to India and China. You are absolutely right though that $600 isn't even 600 dollars, what can you do with it? it's been devalued to the point of no return. That is to say that the dollar is not going to rebound and many economists are suggesting it will never return now, indeed there is speculation that the dollar could hit zero. The only solace in all of this, is the blind, naive groups who took the money system and their wealth for granted, who believed everything that was said to them, might finally wake up and realise how this really works.
 

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Sorry, Infinite, but Libertarianism is not compatible with hip-hop culture, Afrocentrism, Islam, or any of the other things you promote on here.  Ron Paul told his supporters he is the most conservative candidate in the race...Allah does not approve of that.  Ron Paul is also white, and Allah says he will have to die on Judgment Day.

While we're on the subject, you might find this article on so-called "Islamic economics" interesting:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4973
 

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Wow a post from you that I actually agree with.

Oh, yeah, and if CWalker agrees with you, Infinite, don't you think it's a sign that Allah does not approve?
 

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What's even funnier is when they ask Obama and Hillary how they are going to stimulate the economy.  They both offer this fairytale scenario of how they are going to fix the economy, provide jobs, and solve the energy crisis, ALL AT THE SAME TIME!  LMAO!  Obama said something like he was going to  stimulate the economy by creating jobs that would research alternative sources of energy and also produce and distribute the energy, etc... and on and on...
And why not? People buy it and vote for them, so they are going to keep on saying it. Voters want to hear easy quick-fix solutions. Reality will always take a back seat in politics.
 

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One Ron Paul is trying to pull an Abraham Lincoln and steal the delegates at the convention. Lincoln walked in with 20 delegates and won!

Second The economic stimulus package will not work because we are printing the money out of thin air further devaluing the dollar and creating inflation.
 

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One Ron Paul is trying to pull an Abraham Lincoln and steal the delegates at the convention. Lincoln walked in with 20 delegates and won!

Second The economic stimulus package will not work because we are printing the money out of thin air further devaluing the dollar and creating inflation.

I think I heard somewhere that the money is just an advance on next year's tax return, which basically means you won't get those 600 dollars on that return.
 

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Voters want to hear easy quick-fix solutions. Reality will always take a back seat in politics.
some real spit....unfortunately
 

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Sorry, Infinite, but Libertarianism is not compatible with hip-hop culture, Afrocentrism, Islam, or any of the other things you promote on here.  Ron Paul told his supporters he is the most conservative candidate in the race...Allah does not approve of that.  Ron Paul is also white, and Allah says he will have to die on Judgment Day.

While we're on the subject, you might find this article on so-called "Islamic economics" interesting:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4973

If you knew anything about Libertarian politics, you would know that the fundamental principal that Libertarians stand for, is that they want each individual to live their life the way he or she wants to; not the way George Bush, Newt Gingrinch or any other politician wants them to.

Libertarians stand for small government, and the removal of government interference from our lives.  Therefore, which ever walk of life you choose, whether that be Islam, hip-hop, or Afrocentrism, or whatever, you are free to do so... and it is no business of the government.

Also, if a Jew feels passionately about Zionism, then in a Libertarian America he would have every right to send money to support the state of Israel.  However, he would not have the right to force you or I to send our hard earned money to support the state of Israel, which is what goes on now in America, our tax money is sent to support Israel's occupation of Palestine.

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Sorry, Infinite, but Libertarianism is not compatible with hip-hop culture, Afrocentrism, Islam, or any of the other things you promote on here.  Ron Paul told his supporters he is the most conservative candidate in the race...Allah does not approve of that.  Ron Paul is also white, and Allah says he will have to die on Judgment Day.

While we're on the subject, you might find this article on so-called "Islamic economics" interesting:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4973

If you knew anything about Libertarian politics, you would know that the fundamental principal that Libertarians stand for, is that they want each individual to live their life the way he or she wants to; not the way George Bush, Newt Gingrinch or any other politician wants them to.

Libertarians stand for small government, and the removal of government interference from our lives.  Therefore, which ever walk of life you choose, whether that be Islam, hip-hop, or Afrocentrism, or whatever, you are free to do so... and it is no business of the government.

For example, if a Jew feels passionately about Zionism, then in a Libertarian America he would have every right to send money to support the state of Israel.  However, he would not have the right to force you or I to send our hard earned money to support the state of Israel, which is what goes on now in America, our tax money is sent to support Israel's occupation of Palestine.



I do agree that the gov should not be getting in peoples lives, but there are just some things that we need gov to regulate, or to provid so that our country can function. If we were still a farm based country, than yes libertarian would be the way to go. Which is why even though Dems were the ones that provided agricultural subsidies, they vote Republican because in a open society more conservative fiscal way of life is better for people as a whole. But in urban more populated areas, more liberal social programs are the way to help people get an equal footing. Here is the thing, when Thomas Jefferson was laying down a more Libertarian view of society, he never could have imagioned the industral revolution, were as Alexander Hamliton saw it coming from a mile away, and was designing something that looks more like what we have now. Also remember that Jefferson was rich, Hamilton grew up poor, and that Jefferson was a very flakey. I SAID IT. His original draft of the constitution had a comment on England and how bad it was for them to introduce slavery in the United States, but he also died a slave owner. Jefferson was a great American, but one that best reflects this country today, as he was conflected, idolistic and his ideals never lived up to his reality.
 

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If you knew anything about Libertarian politics, you would know that the fundamental principal that Libertarians stand for, is that they want each individual to live their life the way he or she wants to; not the way George Bush, Newt Gingrinch or any other politician wants them to.

Libertarians stand for small government, and the removal of government interference from our lives.  Therefore, which ever walk of life you choose, whether that be Islam, hip-hop, or Afrocentrism, or whatever, you are free to do so... and it is no business of the government.

For example, if a Jew feels passionately about Zionism, then in a Libertarian America he would have every right to send money to support the state of Israel.  However, he would not have the right to force you or I to send our hard earned money to support the state of Israel, which is what goes on now in America, our tax money is sent to support Israel's occupation of Palestine.

I know, but that is not the issue here.  The issue is Allah's will.  Islam is not a democracy; it is an Allah-ocracy.  And as a Pan-Africanist and Poor Righteous Teacher, I can tell you that my Pan-African socialist republic will be a Foday Sankoh-ocracy, which means that I am in charge of everything, as I interpret and carry out the will of Allah.  It is the business of any government that claims to represent the Qur'an to ensure that infidels are not tolerated, and it is the business of any GOD (like myself) to ensure that the Yakub Crew presence is extinguished.  That isn't compatible with Libertarianism.

For fuck's sake, you do realize that I am the seal of the prophets?  You aren't supposed to contradict me.  Doing so results in the loss of your hands.
 

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the depression ended due to the WWII...the new deal was shit and now we have fucked up programs like social security