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Living in a War Zone
« on: April 06, 2008, 01:07:02 AM »
As some of u may know for the last 9 months or so I've been  living in Korea, and inter Korean relations are pretty tense right now i thought i'd post my latest blog here to give u my view on the latest devlopments....


With no peace treaty ever signed North and South Korea are still
 technically at war with each other. The sunshine policy of the two previous
 liberal presidents of South Korea has come to the end, where criticism
 of their nothern neighbour was muted and aid was given without condition.
  Obviously during the last two administrations the north had it very easy
 as far as inter-Korean relations went with two weak presidents, last
 years summit in Pyongyang with the previous president Roh Moo-hun was a
 prime example.... The north eager to try and influence the then
 forthcoming elections to keep the easy going liberals in power decided to
 instigate the second ever summit between the leaders of the two countries
 with a polically weak president in his final days of office, but it back
 fired Lee Myoung Bak came into office with a landslide by promising a
 tougher line on NK and focusing on the economy the top of his agender.

Lee Myoung Bak has been in office for about a month and a half and the
 first test has come for the new president. It all started with the
 south saying they were going to criticise the north for human rights at one
 of the UN bodies and the north later responded by test firing some
 short range missiles into the sea and has since escalated to both nations
 talk of premptives strikes and SK managers of the joint ecomic park
 being expelled. To some this may sound very serious, but if you look
 beyound all these stunts you will see it for what it really is and that is
 the north testing the new S. Korean president, who so far hasn't buckled
 and I don't think he will - which is a good thing. Neither side want a
 war, especially the Kim Jong Il, because behind all the rhetoric he
 knows it will spell out his own destruction, in addition China would
 never allow it, they'd rather take him out themselves than see an inter
 Korean war.

So for anyone feeling concerned about the recent developments in the
 news don't be, I'm not afraid in the slightest.

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 05:26:47 AM »

I am more concerned that people still see the American government as the good guys "the world policeman" when it was Rumsfeld who when on the board of ABB sold nuclear reactors to North Korea. When he was questioned about it, he said he didn't "recall" lol sells nuclear reactors to a psychopath and then parades as being tough on North Korea it's beyond sick.
 

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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 11:22:40 AM »
As some of u may know for the last 9 months or so I've been  living in Korea, and inter Korean relations are pretty tense right now i thought i'd post my latest blog here to give u my view on the latest devlopments....


With no peace treaty ever signed North and South Korea are still
 technically at war with each other. The sunshine policy of the two previous
 liberal presidents of South Korea has come to the end, where criticism
 of their nothern neighbour was muted and aid was given without condition.
  Obviously during the last two administrations the north had it very easy
 as far as inter-Korean relations went with two weak presidents, last
 years summit in Pyongyang with the previous president Roh Moo-hun was a
 prime example.... The north eager to try and influence the then
 forthcoming elections to keep the easy going liberals in power decided to
 instigate the second ever summit between the leaders of the two countries
 with a polically weak president in his final days of office, but it back
 fired Lee Myoung Bak came into office with a landslide by promising a
 tougher line on NK and focusing on the economy the top of his agender.

Lee Myoung Bak has been in office for about a month and a half and the
 first test has come for the new president. It all started with the
 south saying they were going to criticise the north for human rights at one
 of the UN bodies and the north later responded by test firing some
 short range missiles into the sea and has since escalated to both nations
 talk of premptives strikes and SK managers of the joint ecomic park
 being expelled. To some this may sound very serious, but if you look
 beyound all these stunts you will see it for what it really is and that is
 the north testing the new S. Korean president, who so far hasn't buckled
 and I don't think he will - which is a good thing. Neither side want a
 war, especially the Kim Jong Il, because behind all the rhetoric he
 knows it will spell out his own destruction, in addition China would
 never allow it, they'd rather take him out themselves than see an inter
 Korean war.

So for anyone feeling concerned about the recent developments in the
 news don't be, I'm not afraid in the slightest.



china doesnt want a war, but unlike iraq or iran, the us threatens to go over the 38th parrallel, china, russia any other north korean ally will start assembling their armies
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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2008, 07:23:05 AM »
The reason china has been protecting states like sudan, iran and burma is because they are hungry for their energy resources. Noth Korea is different they have energy shortages, although i believe they do have some raw materials. The biggest factor in this is that china doesn't want an influx of North Korean refugees, that is wshy they've been proping up the NK to some extent, but if things start to get crazy will want to end it as quickly as possible, it has already been publicised that they have plans to pour in troops to secure the boarder and nucluear sites in the event of power struggle. Then you've got to take into account do you think beijing is going to let it little neighbour and the third largest economy in the region duke it out with a potential of it escalating and even put beijiing under threat.

With all this considered China has only one option and that is to pull the plug on DPRP if tensions look set to spill over, there is no idelogical brotherhood anymore China's number one concern is ecomony and NK isn't doing anything to provide for that.

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 09:13:47 PM »
their not helping the economy, but their not hurting it. in 30 years or so china would prob become the most powerful country int he world by the way we feed them.  but say we do cross the 38th, china wouldnt back them up?
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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 04:17:42 AM »
their not helping the economy, but their not hurting it. in 30 years or so china would prob become the most powerful country int he world by the way we feed them.  but say we do cross the 38th, china wouldnt back them up?
A war on the Korean Peninsular would hurt their economy and would be a major embaressment for China, which could also spill over into a greater regional war. SK or the US wouldn't even need to attack, if shit looks like its getting too tense they will intervene themselves BELIEVE ME. CHina and NK are no longer brethren, NK is more of a headache than anything and SK is more important to China these days. Alot has changed in the 20 to 30 years, your still thinking in the Korean war/cold war mentality and that is pretty short sighted.

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 04:43:29 PM »
their not helping the economy, but their not hurting it. in 30 years or so china would prob become the most powerful country int he world by the way we feed them.  but say we do cross the 38th, china wouldnt back them up?
A war on the Korean Peninsular would hurt their economy and would be a major embaressment for China, which could also spill over into a greater regional war. SK or the US wouldn't even need to attack, if shit looks like its getting too tense they will intervene themselves BELIEVE ME. CHina and NK are no longer brethren, NK is more of a headache than anything and SK is more important to China these days. Alot has changed in the 20 to 30 years, your still thinking in the Korean war/cold war mentality and that is pretty short sighted.

ic, and if china wouldnt back up korea, y not  unify it by force, even before they suspected of north korea of developing/having nuclear weapons.


now their saying they do, and we went to invade iraq by force because we suspected them of having nuclear weapons and north korea IS AND HAS been developing nuclear weapons. if china wasnt backing them up than wahts teh problem about unifying them by force, why not do it now with chinas support. in the long run it will help out the asia's regional economy if they have 1 korea.

the united states is scared of a strong china. lol they regulate them economically today, they can be progessing alot faster but the us government make sure its regulated by them.
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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2008, 04:55:11 PM »

The sick thing is though it's the American corporations which are empowering the sick evil regime in China and thus making them a real superpower which is very bad for all nations.
 

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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 11:07:38 PM »
terrible life style


 

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Re: Living in a War Zone
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 06:00:11 AM »
their not helping the economy, but their not hurting it. in 30 years or so china would prob become the most powerful country int he world by the way we feed them.  but say we do cross the 38th, china wouldnt back them up?
A war on the Korean Peninsular would hurt their economy and would be a major embaressment for China, which could also spill over into a greater regional war. SK or the US wouldn't even need to attack, if shit looks like its getting too tense they will intervene themselves BELIEVE ME. CHina and NK are no longer brethren, NK is more of a headache than anything and SK is more important to China these days. Alot has changed in the 20 to 30 years, your still thinking in the Korean war/cold war mentality and that is pretty short sighted.

ic, and if china wouldnt back up korea, y not  unify it by force, even before they suspected of north korea of developing/having nuclear weapons.


now their saying they do, and we went to invade iraq by force because we suspected them of having nuclear weapons and north korea IS AND HAS been developing nuclear weapons. if china wasnt backing them up than wahts teh problem about unifying them by force, why not do it now with chinas support. in the long run it will help out the asia's regional economy if they have 1 korea.

the united states is scared of a strong china. lol they regulate them economically today, they can be progessing alot faster but the us government make sure its regulated by them.
OK i'm not sure what ur getting at are you trying to say China supported their nuclear program? because i should tell u they got their information from pakistan and that it would be far more devloped if they had china's backing.

A united Korea would be better for everyone but poker a lion in the eye with a stick isn't necessarily the best way to go about it, the only country that can effectively do it is china. Plus I don't know if china would support an invasion from the US seeing their troops on the boarder would be somewhat provcative but if china took out the north on the other hand  they would bprobably set up a different government for an interim period before possible unification.

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?