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Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« on: March 23, 2002, 06:49:57 PM »
Assulamulakum Brothers. In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful! All praises are due to Allah, the Lord of all worlds! Salutations and Blessings to brothers Prince Techniec, Infinite, Illicit, I BO, 7TH, Doggystylin, Jamal, Roccy, NimaDPG, PakiGangsta, BL7, Cant C Me, Waswipp, and H20Proof.

Quote from the Qu'ran for the week: Dealing with Reciprocity, "Revenge, Retaliation, and Get Back."

Surah 2
"But if they cease,
Let there be no hostility
Except to those
Who practice oppresion"
- If the opposite party ceases to persecute you, your hostility ends with them as a party, but it does not mean you become friends to oppresion.  Your fight is against wrong; there should be no rancour against men.

Islamic Hip-Hop Quote of the Week:  Comes from our brother MC Ren off "The Villian In Black" album
"I Don't eat swine but I'll take a turkey burger/
I can't fade worms/
That pork's full of germs/"
and
"Blind your sight/
From the shit that I recite/
Live from Compton/
It's Saturday Night/
But ain't no jokes/
Cause I don't play that shit/
Niggaz you know I ain't no muthafuckin comic/
Droppin Street Knowledge/
Plus a nigga Islamic/"

Salam brothers: That is all for this week.  One life, One love, and One God.  Let's all unite under the oneness of God.   Salam. ~1~
 

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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2002, 08:48:27 PM »
Nice shit Infinite......

If u really do drop this kinda knowledge every week from now on then mad props goes out 2 u......

Dat MC Ren rhyme waz pretty tight, I neva heard dat before, Ima d/l dat......



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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2002, 09:00:18 PM »
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Nice shit Infinite......

If u really do drop this kinda knowledge every week from now on then mad props goes out 2 u......

Dat MC Ren rhyme waz pretty tight, I neva heard dat before, Ima d/l dat......



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Thanks brother man.... those were quotes from two different songs off of Villian In Black, "Keepin It Real" and "Live From Compton It's Saturday Night"
 

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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2002, 09:20:32 PM »
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"I Don't eat swine but I'll take a turkey burger/
I can't fade worms/
That pork's full of germs/"
and
"Blind your sight/
From the shit that I recite/
Live from Compton/
It's Saturday Night/
But ain't no jokes/
Cause I don't play that shit/
Niggaz you know I ain't no muthafuckin comic/
Droppin Street Knowledge/
Plus a nigga Islamic/"


I know that song, but i never even payed attention to what he meant.  That's kinda dope.
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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2002, 09:22:50 PM »
infinite....thank you very much 4 the post.....did u jus start this or have u been postin the "muslim newsletter" 4 a while now?...cuz i'm new at the board and its coo to read sumthin like this once in a while

keep it up brother
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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2002, 12:28:28 AM »
as yall know i aint a religeous person i decided to check a few of infinites post to see wtf he talken about.. and from a person blind to religeon.. it seems ur quote was basically sayen.. dont show hostitlity to sumone unless they show opression.. i dun understand what that means.. but correct me if im wrong isnt that telling u to show hostility to ppl? im jsut curious..
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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2002, 05:57:51 AM »
Thanks Infinite nice post.

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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2002, 07:15:40 AM »
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as yall know i aint a religeous person i decided to check a few of infinites post to see wtf he talken about.. and from a person blind to religeon.. it seems ur quote was basically sayen.. dont show hostitlity to sumone unless they show opression.. i dun understand what that means.. but correct me if im wrong isnt that telling u to show hostility to ppl? im jsut curious..
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show hostility to those who oppress u, basically defend yourself but dont be an aggressor...


peace
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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2002, 07:16:15 AM »
btw

jazakumullah infini for the newsletter, keep em coming, u need help holla at me...
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2002, 08:24:22 AM »
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show hostility to those who oppress u, basically defend yourself but dont be an aggressor...


peace


whoa...lines like this might rase alot of contrevercy...i mean...if you think about it...this iz one of tha fulez dat might and prolly already have been used by terroristic relegiouslly fanatic organisationz....tha whole Gihad concept iz made from lines like this one.


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We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2002, 08:26:16 AM »
so basically we shouldnt defend ourselves?


i mean suicide bombers in discos are stupid, thats fuckin dumb
i condemn that to the fullest...........


but palestinians killing israeli soldiers in the west bank and gaza, thats legitimate resistance.........
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2002, 09:04:16 AM »
Good post Infinite. Nice quotes too, I didn't even know MC Ren was a Muslim.  ???



Peace out....
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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2002, 09:08:21 AM »
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so basically we shouldnt defend ourselves?


i mean suicide bombers in discos are stupid, thats fuckin dumb
i condemn that to the fullest...........


but palestinians killing israeli soldiers in the west bank and gaza, thats legitimate resistance.........


Killings a form of legitimate resistance?
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2002, 09:39:13 AM »
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Killings a form of legitimate resistance?


thank you...dis iz^ exactlly what i waz gonna say...


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but palestinians killing israeli soldiers in the west bank and gaza, thats legitimate resistance


tha ISRAELI soljhaz ain"t sent to GAZA and tha west bank for fun you know......do you think that any of us enjoy servin at tha hot spottz....dayyum tha soljhaz iz da ones dat suffer tha most...and most consistentlly. tha soljhaz sent to GAZA and tha west bank r there to prevent terroristz from gettin out of there...come on...even when tha soljhaz r there there iz enough terorristz mannagin to get out of there...so we need them to be there to protect tha sevilianz inside Israel.
tha soljhaz ain"t sent there to kill palestinianz...so what protection r you exactlly talkin about?.
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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Re: Weekly WCC Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2002, 10:38:36 AM »
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as yall know i aint a religeous person i decided to check a few of infinites post to see wtf he talken about.. and from a person blind to religeon.. it seems ur quote was basically sayen.. dont show hostitlity to sumone unless they show opression.. i dun understand what that means.. but correct me if im wrong isnt that telling u to show hostility to ppl? im jsut curious..
holla

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Islam, is in my opinion more realistic then Christianity.  Chritianity describes the way the world should be, and Islam describes the way the world is, in addition to how it should be.  Like Techniec said, show hostility to those who oppress you, but don't be the aggresor.  Turnin the other cheek, isn't always realistic.  Which has been shown in the American-Afgan War, neither side chose to turn the other cheek.  Although I believe it could have been done.  It is more valued to practice non-violent resistence in Islam. Islam is a way of life.  It's a complete religion, the Qu'ran leaves no stone unturned. It is socio-political, socio-religious, socio-economical, educational, legislative, judicial, and militaristic system garbed in religious terminology.  Our prophets, are humans, who recieved prophetic messages from God.  (Allah)  There have been hundreds of prophets, even some who are still unknown I believe, since the begining of time, who spoke of One God. Abraham, peace be unto him, Moses, peace be unto him, Noah, peace be unto him, Mary, peace be unto her, Jesus Christ, peace be unto him, Muhammad, peace be unto him, and some even believe Noble Drew Ali and Elijah Muhammad to be the prophets who revealed the truth of God to the lost tribe of Shabazz, and other lost and destitute descendants of the trans-atlantic slave trade.  Islam has always been one of the more dominant religions in Africa.  Consequently, many slave descendants have been robbed of their true name and religion.  However, I myself, am an orthodox Muslim so I refer to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be unto him, as the last in a long line of devinely inspired messengers of God. (Allah)  ~1~
 

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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2002, 11:03:44 AM »
^^ Christianity sums up how the world "should" be in one simple phrase. What Would Jesus Do? And according to my faith, jesus was without sin.  So we should strive to be like him. And my question is, how is it unrealistic to TRY and be like him? God is realistic enough to know that we cannot, and will not be perfect. That is why Jesus died for us, so that we can be forgiven for the sins we make. The bible isn't one big book of should and shouldn'ts. It is a source of wisdom, guidance, and healing. I'm not going to try and convince you Infinite, or anyone of the Muslim faith that one way or the other is wrong. I just get upset with assumptions, that Christianity is unrealistic. I might feel the same way about Islamic beliefs, but I won't display that for the simple fact that I don't know all that it has to offer, and I have NOT read the Qu'ran, so I don't feel justified in criticizing it's beliefs. I HAVE read the entire bible, so I can, and will discuss with anyone who wants to on Christianity. Peace though, not tryin to start anything.
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2002, 11:07:35 AM »
I should also add, that I'm sorry for cluttering a Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter with views on Christianity. The only reason I entered the thread in the first place is because I am curious as to Muslim beliefs. I will forever believe that Jesus is the son of god, but I am interested in seeing what other religions believe, and say. So once again, sorry for bringing a non muslim response to the board. Hope no one objects to a Christian reading your info.
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2002, 11:46:31 AM »
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^^ Christianity sums up how the world "should" be in one simple phrase. What Would Jesus Do? And according to my faith, jesus was without sin.  So we should strive to be like him. And my question is, how is it unrealistic to TRY and be like him? God is realistic enough to know that we cannot, and will not be perfect. That is why Jesus died for us, so that we can be forgiven for the sins we make. The bible isn't one big book of should and shouldn'ts. It is a source of wisdom, guidance, and healing. I'm not going to try and convince you Infinite, or anyone of the Muslim faith that one way or the other is wrong. I just get upset with assumptions, that Christianity is unrealistic. I might feel the same way about Islamic beliefs, but I won't display that for the simple fact that I don't know all that it has to offer, and I have NOT read the Qu'ran, so I don't feel justified in criticizing it's beliefs. I HAVE read the entire bible, so I can, and will discuss with anyone who wants to on Christianity. Peace though, not tryin to start anything.


Exactly. if everyone strived to be like Jesus then I believe there would be way less troubles in the world today.
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2002, 01:57:05 PM »
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Exactly. if everyone strived to be like Jesus then I believe there would be way less troubles in the world today.


That's why Jesus is a prophet on the same level as Muhammad in Islam.... But Christians saying that God doesn't seek vengence against wrong doers is a lie, you'll find that if you've read any of the Old Testement... God burns people at the stake, and other tortorous methods for wrong doing.
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2002, 03:02:05 PM »
Yeah Infinite, OLD TESTIMENT! If you read the bible, the entire bible, you will find out why Jesus is so important to Christianity. That is when God stopped with the vengence. He put himself on the earth in human form basically, and saw our pain, lived in our flesh, and gave himself for our sins, meaning that we can be forgiven. Since Jesus, God has never acted against man. It is that simple.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2002, 03:05:23 PM »
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Yeah Infinite, OLD TESTIMENT! If you read the bible, the entire bible, you will find out why Jesus is so important to Christianity. That is when God stopped with the vengence. He put himself on the earth in human form basically, and saw our pain, lived in our flesh, and gave himself for our sins, meaning that we can be forgiven. Since Jesus, God has never acted against man. It is that simple.


First off, good discussion, I don't mind any Christians entering the weekly newsletter and offering their thoughts and concerns, as long as we keep it respectable, like we have been.

You brought up two things.  One.  Are you saying God was wrong in the Old Testament?  And two.  Myself and many Muslims veiw, nature, death, natural disasters, etc., as  the wrath of God, or God showing that he is far-reaching and limitless, his awesome and ultimate power.
 

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2002, 03:09:57 PM »
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That's why Jesus is a prophet on the same level as Muhammad in Islam.... But Christians saying that God doesn't seek vengence against wrong doers is a lie, you'll find that if you've read any of the Old Testement... God burns people at the stake, and other tortorous methods for wrong doing.


There are no Christians in there right mind that would say God doesn't punish people when they do wrong. Where are you getting your info from?
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2002, 03:22:18 PM »
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Killings a form of legitimate resistance?


Right there homie, ^^ You questioned Islamic theology, and gave me the impression, that you have the misconception, that God was never vengeful, and never violent... but apparently, you don't have that mindset.  So are we on the same page?
 

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2002, 03:25:51 PM »
You know what Infinite, I had a huge paragraph written out trying to explain my views on why things happen, and whether or not god was wrong in being a vengeful god before Jesus, but I know our (you and I) type. No amount of typing will convince the other what is what. I'll say this. The God that I know, and have prayed to since I was 3 years old, is a kind, and loving god. I don't fear him like Baptists, or other denominations preach, but I respect his power, and know that if he wanted me off this earth this second, it would happen... so in that sense, I do fear him, however, I don't view god that way. I veiw him as my friend, father, leader, and ticket into heaven. God is my best friend. I know that no matter when or where I end up, he is with me the whole time. No one can shake that, and it takes a load off my shoulders everytime I get down on something to think that he is there with me. I know that when I pray for forgiveness EVERY night, he does just that. Out of respect for him, I pray constantly, tell him the things he has done that helped me, thank him for those things, and even question why things happen. Although he has never verbally spoken to me, I see his answers every day. If I look, I can see god in everything.

Now, does that mean that I'm right about everything I just wrote?? Who knows. Maybe god does send natural disasters to wipe out villages, or bombs WTC's to prove a point to capitalistic societys... I won't know till I'm in heaven. I will just say that the god that I know, and pray to does not want to see men die. He wants them to follow in his path, and have good lives. Once again, I'm not saying that this is exactly how god is, or feels, I have nothing to go on besides my own walk.. so take that for what it is worth. I respect your faith, and your knowledge on several issues, and this is not meant to be a bring down for you Infinite. I just feel that maybe you are too quick to blame mans', and natures' violence on God.

As to Sikotic, I wasn't saying that people who do wrong don't go punished, eventually, we all get judged on our own faults/sins, whatever, just saying that God does not mass punish anymore since the Old Testiment (floods, firestorms, ect..)

Peace everyone. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2002, 03:30:02 PM »
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You know what Infinite, I had a huge paragraph written out trying to explain my views on why things happen, and whether or not god was wrong in being a vengeful god before Jesus, but I know our (you and I) type. No amount of typing will convince the other what is what. I'll say this. The God that I know, and have prayed to since I was 3 years old, is a kind, and loving god. I don't fear him like Baptists, or other denominations preach, but I respect his power, and know that if he wanted me off this earth this second, it would happen... so in that sense, I do fear him, however, I don't view god that way. I veiw him as my friend, father, leader, and ticket into heaven. God is my best friend. I know that no matter when or where I end up, he is with me the whole time. No one can shake that, and it takes a load off my shoulders everytime I get down on something to think that he is there with me. I know that when I pray for forgiveness EVERY night, he does just that. Out of respect for him, I pray constantly, tell him the things he has done that helped me, thank him for those things, and even question why things happen. Although he has never verbally spoken to me, I see his answers every day. If I look, I can see god in everything.

Now, does that mean that I'm right about everything I just wrote?? Who knows. Maybe god does send natural disasters to wipe out villages, or bombs WTC's to prove a point to capitalistic societys... I won't know till I'm in heaven. I will just say that the god that I know, and pray to does not want to see men die. He wants them to follow in his path, and have good lives. Once again, I'm not saying that this is exactly how god is, or feels, I have nothing to go on besides my own walk.. so take that for what it is worth. I respect your faith, and your knowledge on several issues, and this is not meant to be a bring down for you Infinite. I just feel that maybe you are too quick to blame mans', and natures' violence on God.

As to Sikotic, I wasn't saying that people who do wrong don't go punished, eventually, we all get judged on our own faults/sins, whatever, just saying that God does not mass punish anymore since the Old Testiment (floods, firestorms, ect..)

Peace everyone. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.


damn dogg, i feel you there, i see what your sayin and agree 100%, ima muslim and i believe the same things your sayin, peace,
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