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The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« on: September 15, 2002, 11:40:52 PM »
Yesterday I listened to both albums again. Ever since Illmatic I've been a Nas fan, but I gotta admit: The Blueprint is a much better album. The production is better and the lyrics fit perfectly with the beats. At least Nas takes home the award for best song (One Mic), but honestly speaking, I'm not looking forward to God's Son - I'm looking forward to The Gift & The Curse. Hereby I officially declare myself a Jay-Z (and Rocafella) fan. It took a decade but now it happened.

P.S. If it's true and Kanye West really produces some beats for Rakim..... whoaaaa
 

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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2002, 06:23:41 AM »
yeah blueprint is the better album, im still bumpin that shit man, i hardly ever listen 2 stillmatic anymore, it just doesnt have the same staying power
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2002, 08:06:06 AM »
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yeah blueprint is the better album, im still bumpin that shit man, i hardly ever listen 2 stillmatic anymore, it just doesnt have the same staying power

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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2002, 08:12:28 AM »
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2002, 08:17:53 AM »
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the lost tapes is better than stillmatic. I can't get enough of U Gotta Love It & My Way
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2002, 09:22:35 AM »
This is how I see it:

Production: The Blueprint (Basically the production made this album what it is, in other words thats the best part.)

Lyrics: Stillmatic

Content: Stillmatic

Rappers Overall Performance: Tie (I this is Nas' best performance since "Illmatic" and I think it was also Jay's best performance since "Reasonable Doubt".)

Longevity: Stillmatic (I havn't listened to "The Blueprint" since the month it dropped, but i've listened to "Stillmatic" pretty much every week since it leaked.)

Art Work: The Blueprint (I love the art work for this album, the blueprint sheets etc were a great idea.)

I gotta give props to Jay, he really showed that he can pull of a solid album nowadays, it's not on the same level as "Reasonable Doubt" but it's his best effort since, imo. I just think "Stillmatic" held strength in more important areas, like content, lyrics etc, therefore it is the better album to me.  


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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2002, 09:43:24 AM »
The first half of Stillmatic shits on anything Jigga ever did.

I havent listened to a non-Unplugged Blueprint song since about December of last year so....


Nas by far.
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2002, 09:56:50 AM »
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The first half of Stillmatic shits on anything Jigga ever did.


thats possibly one of the dumbest comments i have ever heard on these boards considering reasonable doubt was better than every cd nas ever released minus illmatic...
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2002, 04:05:41 PM »
Blueprint is def. better than Stillmatic.

Stillmatic: Good solid album, many classics cuts, but with too much fillers, and some of the tracks sounds boring.
Sounds like too much like a advance to be classic.
4 of 5 mics

Blueprint: Very good album, but with a few fillers, and it's too short. Some classics cuts, and some very dope ones, but the 2-3 average/filler ones denies it's classic status.
4.5 of 5 mics
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2002, 08:34:46 PM »
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Stillmatic: Good solid album, many classics cuts, but with too much fillers, and some of the tracks sounds boring.
Sounds like too much like a advance to be classic.
4 of 5 mics

Blueprint: Very good album, but with a few fillers, and it's too short. Some classics cuts, and some very dope ones, but the 2-3 average/filler ones denies it's classic status.
4.5 of 5 mics


exactly what I thought... Nas biggest problem: wackass beats. Ether is a damn good diss, but the beat makes it a bit....uhm....weird.
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2002, 08:38:17 PM »

The Blueprint
This lp still has the same fresh sound as when it dropped to me, I haven't took it out of rotation since last year.
Jigga really dropped a gem for his fan's. I expspecialy feel the Girls, Girls, Girls (bonus) that was included at the end....whoa!!!

I take no sides in the beef's...cause Both Nas & Jigga are equal to me.
But Jigga just came with more intent on making an ablum with diversity with fun cut's/club banger's like....
"Izzo (H.O.V.A.)"
"Girls, Girls, Girls"
"Takeover"
"Hola' Hovito"
And some heartfelt ish like....
"Song Cry"
"All I Need"
"Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)"
Some filler ish such as....
"The Ruler's Back"
"Jigga That N***a"
And a collab wit' everyone's favorite...Eminem. "Renegade"
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In the end I belive ImO Jigga came out with the best work of his carrer since 96'.
And his nexx lp might surpass this one.
Plus the production was top knotch & sound's unlike anything before....kinda like "The Dynasty" fucked "Reasonable doubt" got it knocked-up and had a baby "Blueprint"....lol

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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2002, 08:57:28 PM »
Stillmatic is easily the better album. Lyrically, there is no comparison, and content-wise, again no comparison. The only thing the Blueprint has is production, the beats are pretty hot. However, Stillmatic doesnt have bad production by any means, and I think the beats go with the lyrics very well. Also, I hardly ever play the Blueprint anymore, while I still play Stillmatic on occasion [havent heard it in awhile though].
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2002, 05:09:52 AM »
The Blueprint is the better album.  Stillmatic, quite frankly, is Mediocrematic.  Every song on the Blueprint is hot..but w/ Mediocrematic I find myself hitting fast forward quite often.   Its also interesting how people who once claimed Mediocrematic was the best album ever, are FINALLY turning their backs on it and analyzing it as the so-so project it really is.  Illl give Nas credit for putting out something better than Nastradamus--but with Blueprint Jigga proved he is the KING of New York.  That's real talk..
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2002, 05:49:18 AM »
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thats possibly one of the dumbest comments i have ever heard on these boards considering reasonable doubt was better than every cd nas ever released minus illmatic...



really, what exactly has Jigga ever done that's fucking with Stillmatic from the Intro through Destroy and Rebuild?  considering most people who call reasonable doubt a classic didn't hear it until it got re-released.  Jay is a talented MC, and he can churn out the club bangers, but he can't fade Nas if we're talking about straight hip-hop.  I'd take the first 9 stillmatic songs over any of Jigga's LPs... that way I wouldn't have to keep skipping his corny singles.
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Re: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2002, 03:00:18 AM »
Jay Z does not bring anything new to the Rap table. Nas is by far the better rapper, and fuck beats. 80% of HipHop is sampled, atleast 11 out of 15 songs are straight rips from old songs, Kanye West and Just Blaze just add simple drum beat over them and lopp the best parts. You must judge hip hop for the creative aspect of it, and that is the lyrical aspect. And in the lyrical aspect Jay Z has not EVER said anything that had not already been overdone. If you wanna listen to beats go by some 60s and 70s rock and RnB records, trust me the "music" is much better, the only significant sound HipHop has brought to music was scratching and they don't even use that too much anymore.
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