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Re: Religion Is When PPL Pick and choose the parts to follow
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2008, 10:37:08 AM »
Another point is, that acting "good" just for the sake of getting rewarded by God is not exactly noble...

Well, from a Christian perspective, you're right. Christians should strive to possess as little nobility as possible, because every attempt to be moral, makes them superior to those who fail. And superiority, of course, is the worst state for a man to achieve. To think of experiencing self-esteem and joy - that's not what God had in mind for us, subpar humans! Best would be not to do anything at all - at least that way, we can't make the unhappy any more unhappy. That's the standard.
 

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Re: Religion Is When PPL Pick and choose the parts to follow
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2008, 11:49:17 AM »
but how can the atheist explain where ur soul goes after death?

Soul? What soul? Fuck outta here. Your chink ass has about as much soul as that annoying ass dog of my friend that's barking at me even though I visit on a regular since he's born..

For the record I'm an atheist and I'm clearly more moral/nice/helpful than the average Christian or Muslim. Especially those adolescent muslim turks who immigrate to Germany, don't eat swine and shit, yet can be the biggest pieces of shit to come across.

Another point is, that acting "good" just for the sake of getting rewarded by God is not exactly noble... but I've had those discussions uncountable times in the past, I'm tired of it. So I stop.



your going to hell you white piece of shit.
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Re: Religion Is When PPL Pick and choose the parts to follow
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2008, 12:04:17 PM »
but how can the atheist explain where ur soul goes after death?

Soul? What soul? Fuck outta here. Your chink ass has about as much soul as that annoying ass dog of my friend that's barking at me even though I visit on a regular since he's born..

For the record I'm an atheist and I'm clearly more moral/nice/helpful than the average Christian or Muslim. Especially those adolescent muslim turks who immigrate to Germany, don't eat swine and shit, yet can be the biggest pieces of shit to come across.

Another point is, that acting "good" just for the sake of getting rewarded by God is not exactly noble... but I've had those discussions uncountable times in the past, I'm tired of it. So I stop.



your going to hell you white piece of shit.

And now, about the statements that have been made...?
 

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Re: Religion Is When PPL Pick and choose the parts to follow
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2008, 02:03:50 PM »
but how can the atheist explain where ur soul goes after death?

Soul? What soul? Fuck outta here. Your chink ass has about as much soul as that annoying ass dog of my friend that's barking at me even though I visit on a regular since he's born..

For the record I'm an atheist and I'm clearly more moral/nice/helpful than the average Christian or Muslim. Especially those adolescent muslim turks who immigrate to Germany, don't eat swine and shit, yet can be the biggest pieces of shit to come across.

Another point is, that acting "good" just for the sake of getting rewarded by God is not exactly noble... but I've had those discussions uncountable times in the past, I'm tired of it. So I stop.



your going to hell you white piece of shit.

And now, about the statements that have been made...?


when i was talking about soul, i was talking about the conscious. where does it go if not heaven or hell. or do you guys think it juz dies with your body.  i was reading about dualism and it was kinda hard to interpet, if u can, can u explain it better eleven?


i wasnt talking about if their good or not. but where does your mind go after u die, or do you believe ^
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Re: Religion Is When PPL Pick and choose the parts to follow
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2008, 06:22:37 PM »
when i was talking about soul, i was talking about the conscious. where does it go if not heaven or hell. or do you guys think it juz dies with your body.  i was reading about dualism and it was kinda hard to interpet, if u can, can u explain it better eleven?


i wasnt talking about if their good or not. but where does your mind go after u die, or do you believe ^

Yeah, your mind dies with your body. Why is that so hard to figure out?

That is why religion can and should be abandoned...as long as people believe there's a non-existent deity and a non-existent heaven, they won't be concerned with solving the mind-body problem.
 

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Re: Religion Is When PPL Pick and choose the parts to follow
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2008, 03:59:58 AM »
when i was talking about soul, i was talking about the conscious. where does it go if not heaven or hell. or do you guys think it juz dies with your body.  i was reading about dualism and it was kinda hard to interpet, if u can, can u explain it better eleven?


i wasnt talking about if their good or not. but where does your mind go after u die, or do you believe ^

Atheists don't believe in the existence of a 'soul;' what you call your soul or your mind is nothing more than a chemical process inside your brain which was put together so well that your physical being (your body, and everything about it) can experience sensations and think. That's why humans have a wonderful genetic formula: they are like that by their very nature. Your capacity to think, feel and experience is simply within your body. If the brain dies (which is what obviously happens when you die), that's the end of its functioning like that. It simply ceases to work. It's like a motor running out of fuel: the physical stuff is still there, but it's out of function. It does nothing anymore. What you call the human soul remains inside the brain, but it's empty without its living function, just as the muscles of a dead man don't do anything anymore.

You can go way deep into the subject of dualism and the mind-body issue, but to explain it in short: dualists like Descartes believe that the mind is something outside of the physical world, which operates in the physical world by controlling the body through the brain. So the mind, from a spiritual sphere, pulls the strings of the brain, which in turn controls the body. In other words, dualists believe that there are two sorts of worlds: a spiritual and a material/physical world. The mind/spirit isn't actually a part of the body, but it does connect with it.
Basically, dualists say that there's a world beyond ours that we can not rationally know about, yet somehow they do know about the existence of such a world. It's a world that's impossible to see, feel, hear, taste or smell, but somehow some way they know that it exists (even though that's perfectly impossible, because everything you know, you know only because you see/feel/hear/taste/smell it).