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Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« on: July 04, 2008, 10:10:38 PM »




Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
 

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Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter

 

When Snoop was talking with Cold 187 he was promised a deal. So Snoop waited..... and waited..... and waited. Nobody ever got back with him. In result, Warren G took 213 to Dre. After Dre heard "Sooper Dooper Snooper" he hooked up with Snoop quickly. About the same time, Cold 187 called Snoop. He told him they had a song ready for his vocals called "Never Missin' A Beat" (the first minute or so of that track was to be for Snoop). But it was too late, Snoop turned him down. Another song "Pimpology 101" was intended for Snoop. Those two tracks were slapped on the album at the last minute as instrumentals.

 

So Snoop was with Dre. Dre was very, very, very impressed by Snoop's smooth, calm, and charismatic demeanor. He wanted an album out immediately. So they went to work. Although, they failed to realize that they had no way of distributing the resulting album. At that time very late in 1991 Dre & Suge managed to hook up a weak deal directly with Time Warner. But the problem was that Dre was rushing everything before it was legal. Death Row was not yet officially a Record Company. It was more like a Record Organization of Dre's respective partners.

So, Dre and Snoop record a few songs featuring many of the labels early artists such as RBX, CPO, D.O.C., Chocolate and everyone else. It featured producers such as Dre himself, Warren G, Chocolate, and DJ Glaze. Not all the songs were created at Death Row though. Some were recorded during Snoop's wait on Cold 187 and before Snoop's introduction to Dre. A couple were songs that Snoop really liked and wanted to include, recorded with Dj Glaze and Foesum in early 1991 that otherwise would never have been heard. He wanted these songs included also because he had hoped to bring the group Perfection (Foesum) onto Death Row because they were desperately searching for a stable deal. They were the only group that were apart of Snoop's cirlce that never got their chance like RBX, Daz, Kurupt, and Malik got. Due to Foesum's contracts with their record company and due to their own unorganized practices, they were never given a chance by Dre. "Let'em Understand Perfection" was the only chance they were given on Death Row.

Time Warner was not legally capable of Distributing the album, so it was shelved. Only promo tapes were pressed and given to LA radio station but never given authorization to play it. But knowing them they played the shit anyway. The song "Do You Remember" was the song most played by radio stations before they were stopped.

 

Tracks Included:

 

"Let'Em Understand"

----Before recording the Chronic, Snoop did a collaboration with the fellow Long Beach group Foesum (formerly - Perfection) which consisted of T-Dubb, MNMsta, DJ Glaze, Tender D (Waniac), Mellow D (Tripp Loc) and Travvy Trav (who died soon after the group formed). This is that song. It was aimed at Long Beach rapper Domino as a diss track for leaving the group early in the group's career. It was also featured on the "Please Pass The Mic" compilation a long time ago. This was really Foesum's chance to prove themselves to Dre. But Dre wasn't feelin' them. In the song "Nuthin' But A G Thang" Snoop refers to this song

-"Perfection is perfected, so I'ma let'em understand".

 

"The Message"

----This song was recorded with DJ Glaze before Death Row.

 

"187" ("It's On")

----This was the original inspiration for Deep Cover. It was going to be on the Deep Cover soundtrack, but they replaced it with Dre's version, when Dre realized that he needed to come out first. On the first press of early Deep Cover cassettes it feature this song in the tracklist, but much like the situation with the original "Next Episode" it was not actually included.

 

"Do You Remember"

----This song was the most played by radio stations after it made it to the radio stations. They were stopped. This is the radio version.

 

"True To The Game"

This is another song Snoop did with DJ Glaze. It's an example of how long Snoop used to right his raps, before the D.O.C. taught him containment.

 

"County Blues"

This was recorded while waiting on Cold 187, but before Death Row.

These tracks are remastered, but only to the best they can be. They are not ran through any noise filters, so the hiss will be apparent. I leave that to you.

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http://www.thesefiles.com/link/fe0a9c22/18736
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 10:15:34 PM »
please remove link or be banned
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2008, 10:40:21 PM »
This Is Nothing New, And It's Incomplete....Should I Post The Whole Thang, Hmmmm Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh.........................................
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2008, 10:55:51 PM »
This Is Nothing New, And It's Incomplete....Should I Post The Whole Thang, Hmmmm Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh.........................................
YES POST THE WHOLE THING.

I dont get it, didnt Snoop come out in 1993?. and this is 91?.
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 11:11:31 PM »
This was proven to be fake.
 

D-Stress

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 04:43:31 AM »
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please remove link or be banned
why?
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This was proven to be fake.
how is it fake when you see the cover and some songs plus some1 says he "should post a whole thang".
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Should I Post The Whole Thang
yes.
 

Klue

Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 04:56:46 AM »
surtout le "langage explicite" bien marqué en français pour un truc sensé ultra rare, ça sent direct le fake quoi..
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 05:04:47 AM »
Many claim this album to be fake. Many claim it was a hoax created by a guy with too much time on his hands. But no one has ever asked Snoop himself, so we'll never know for sure until then. Over the past few years "Over The Counter" has became sort of a myth in the hip hop underworld. You can determine it's legitimacy.
 

Klue

Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 05:20:45 AM »
dubcnn got good relations with snoop now think. if nima or another staff member read this thread, feel free  to ask him one day to clarifiy all this.
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 06:01:59 AM »
^^ yep
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 06:41:08 AM »
This is SO obviously fake for so many reasons, we'll start with the cover -



It uses the 'Impact' font that came first with Windows 95

There are no crinkles over the stuck on graphics even though the black parts are mad crinkled

The drawing looks nothing like a Joe Cool drawing - many of the lines are perfectly straight and the guys eyes and mouth are round, like the lines and circles were done on MS Paint (which I suspect they were)



Then with the tracks -

"Let'Em Understand" - this has been around for ages, from the "Please Pass The Mic" compilation, there isn't anything to suggest it was from this Over The Counter 'album'

"The Message" - recorded with DJ Glaze before Death Row, so not a song for Death Row or a Death Row album

"187" ("It's On") - this is the remix of Deep Cover that came out on the Fuck Wit Dre Day 12"... this has been around for ages

"Do You Remember" - blatantly a later Snoop track, has the same annoying pimp style adlibs he didn't use til the late 90s (and the whole flow and delivery is different from his early stuff) the track is slightly sped up probably to make him sound 'younger'... and he says "that's how we do it in the 98" which is the nail in the coffin of that one

"True To The Game" - another pre Death Row demo

"County Blues" - Snoop said in an interview with Dubcnn that this was before Death Row and was over a WC beat, so it wasn't meant to be released


And what about all the other, more interesting tracks that are meant to be on there and produced by Dre, etc?
Surprisingly they didn't leak...
So the only tracks that leaked are the ones people already had from somewhere else -
a) pre-Death Row early demos (County Blues, The Message, True To The Game)
b) stuff that was already officially released (187, Let Em Understand)
c) from 1998 (Do You Remember)

...on an 'album' that has a cover that was put together on Photoshop with a drawing that was made on MS Paint...

 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 06:54:17 AM »
It's Not Fake....Let's Just Leave It At That...
 


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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 07:01:33 AM »
Over The Counter Is Fake, I mean come only even heard of all these fake ass projects when Death Row nerds wanted to fool one another. Seer has already proven this thing to be fake. Let's just leave it at that, and someone please ban Clint Dogg.
 


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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 08:04:50 AM »
oh well, fake or not its cool to hear these tracks, havent heard em all
 



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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2008, 11:07:31 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 

Klue

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2008, 11:15:52 AM »
got no sounds what it says
 

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Re: Snoop Dogg - Over The Counter (1991)[Debut]
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2008, 11:17:19 AM »
damn i wish that "welcome to death row" song would be true  :'(