Author Topic: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music  (Read 723 times)

KVB

  • Guest
Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« on: June 18, 2002, 09:44:55 PM »
I'm shocked y'all... I was recently bumping Cam's new album, and I would have said it was pretty tight. But my opinion changed when I heard these lines from track 4, called "Live My Life" featuring Daz. Read this:


"I'll be damned if I work for some white cracker (shit)
White batter, prize in the pack, fiends love
They hug it, call it Cracker Jacks, KILLA
Where the crack is at, watch me get dem dice
Throw 'em on, let me live my life"



Obscene, discriminating lyrics... it's like Eminem would have said "Fuckin' nigga" in his raps, totally unacceptable... I suggest nobody here buy this Cam'ron album ( which I regret to have:(), or even better, don't support him at all... abandon his music. At least that's what I've done.

Peace
 

Trauma-san

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 16639
  • Karma: -231
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2002, 10:00:25 PM »
On "Git Up, Git Out" on outkast's first cds, Andre starts his verse off "They tell me I should vote... Why? Ain't nobody black runnin' for president, Just Crackers"

LOL

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

Trauma-san

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 16639
  • Karma: -231
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2002, 10:01:10 PM »
Not to mention, everybody's favorite

"So break the white man off somethi'n lovely, I don't love him so them can't love me" - Snoop Dogg
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

KVB

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2002, 10:10:48 PM »
Quote
On "Git Up, Git Out" on outkast's first cds, Andre starts his verse off "They tell me I should vote... Why? Ain't nobody black runnin' for president, Just Crackers"

LOL



Really... amazing, I actually got that album. Guess I never perceived Andre saying that. On the other hand, I can understand him. He was most likely the victim of racial discrimination and oppression in the South in his youth. He just needed to release some aggression. He is forgiven.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

S.G.V.

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2002, 10:52:00 PM »
does anyone find it funny though?...cuz imagine if a white or latino rapper actually said something similar about blacks?....that would be considered uttterly racist and it probably would get banned....but oh well thats how life is....
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

West Coast Veteran

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5776
  • Karma: 192
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2002, 05:58:48 AM »
Peep an early Ice Cube album.

Cam is known to be a racist. He made a whole song dissin' Oriental store owners on his first album and he even admits that "Cam is a big racist" on Nore's "Banned From T.V."
 

.:R-E-L:.

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1506
  • Karma: 0
  • R-E-L...comin w/ that punk rap!  
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2002, 06:11:22 AM »
Quote
does anyone find it funny though?...cuz imagine if a white or latino rapper actually said something similar about blacks?....that would be considered uttterly racist and it probably would get banned....but oh well thats how life is....



word.....thats jus life
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
Straight Outta Muthafuckin So. Kaliforn-i-a
909 805 310 323 213 818 661 949 714 609 415 619 562
 

KVB

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2002, 06:45:23 AM »
Quote
Peep an early Ice Cube album.

Cam is known to be a racist. He made a whole song dissin' Oriental store owners on his first album and he even admits that "Cam is a big racist" on Nore's "Banned From T.V."


Fair enough... but this is 2002... with successful white rappers emerging on the hip-hop scene, shouldn't the hiphop culture be devoid of racism? Every non-white rapper saying "cracker" is dissing Eminem & Bubba Sparxxx, for example. It's fucked up... :-/
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

smartass

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1561
  • Karma: -1014
  • my style is too developed to be arrested
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2002, 07:05:27 AM »
thats nothin new for him. he's been sayin stupid shit like that ever since he was apart of children of the corn but thats back when him & mase were good.
I ain't little but vicious, guns no misses You feel me, kisses or wishes, fore I break you up like dishes Fuck your bosses, my forces, endorses To kill all your sources y'all niggas best be cautious No losses, my fortress, is Jaguars and Porsche's Ride the OTB to check my money on the horses My horrors is flawless, my block one of the broadest Off the main attraction for them whitey ass tourists That I tosses, it scorches, with out no remorses Leave they bloody body to be found in Mount Morris
 

HBKid_Jr

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2002, 07:07:24 AM »
fuck all tha black activist that talk about how all white man r racist yet a black rapper goes out an says racist comments.  Fuck that
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

CodeCaine

  • Muthafuckin' Double OG
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 651
  • Karma: 16
  • reppin for the south, North Cackalac fool
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2002, 07:35:57 AM »
Quote
I'm shocked y'all... I was recently bumping Cam's new album, and I would have said it was pretty tight. But my opinion changed when I heard these lines from track 4, called "Live My Life" featuring Daz. Read this:


"I'll be damned if I work for some white cracker (shit)
White batter, prize in the pack, fiends love
They hug it, call it Cracker Jacks, KILLA
Where the crack is at, watch me get dem dice
Throw 'em on, let me live my life"



Obscene, discriminating lyrics... it's like Eminem would have said "Fuckin' nigga" in his raps, totally unacceptable... I suggest nobody here buy this Cam'ron album ( which I regret to have:(), or even better, don't support him at all... abandon his music. At least that's what I've done.

Peace


i been listenin to his album alot and i noticed that too...there is alot of racism in rap....yall remeber that chinese rapper Jin from bet? in one of his battles tha other guy just made fun of him for being chinese tha whole time and tha crowd loved it....jada kiss is sayin cracker too...heres his lyrics from fantastic 4 pt 2 on clues professional part 2

so I dont flip when the crackers wave checks in my facin

its fucked up but it aint gonna change
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
It's CodeKane fool
Everybody knows Carolina's my home, this is my heart baby, this is my soul.

Folks think I'm out of my mind
I'm out of line a lot of times
I don't give a fuck bout guidelines
Do what I wanna do, when I wanna do it
You-you ain't like what I'm doin', you ain't got to
Petey Pab

Plus a buncha country boys wit gats, you don't want none-a that
-Scales
 

Trauma-san

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 16639
  • Karma: -231
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2002, 08:04:32 AM »
"Y'all tellin me that I need to get out and vote, huh. Why?
Ain't nobody black runnin but crackers, so, why I got to register?" - Andre 3000

I checked just to make sure, that's what he says.

I don't really take offense, even at snoop's comment.  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

=[Euthanasia]=

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4496
  • Karma: 5
  • Bad Muthafucka'
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2002, 09:24:14 AM »
Yeah, racism is fucked up, period. I hate all types of racism, it sickens me to think that it's still evident these days but thats just the way it is. Look at 2Pac, he said quite alot of racist things towards whites in his music and in interviews, but it was aimed mostly at the white supremists and the rich white folk that often misunderstood young black people and the whole hip-hop culture. I wouldn't take it personally because in many cases the artists that once made those racist comments (Cube, 'Pac, Snoop etc) grew up and now have friendships with white people. People who grow up around racist people only know of the social stereotypes of different races, but I think we all know that stereotypes are worthless, it's about the person not the colour.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »




I think that if you take one of the 'O's' out of 'Good' it's 'God', if you add a 'D' to 'Evil' it's the 'Devil'. I think some cool motherfucker sat down a long time ago and said 'let's figure out a way to control motherfuckers'.
 

.:R-E-L:.

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1506
  • Karma: 0
  • R-E-L...comin w/ that punk rap!  
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2002, 09:26:37 AM »
Quote
"Y'all tellin me that I need to get out and vote, huh. Why?
Ain't nobody black runnin but crackers, so, why I got to register?" - Andre 3000

I checked just to make sure, that's what he says.

I don't really take offense, even at snoop's comment.  


i dont take offense 2 it either...i jus thinks its really fuckin hypocrtical
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
Straight Outta Muthafuckin So. Kaliforn-i-a
909 805 310 323 213 818 661 949 714 609 415 619 562
 

Trauma-san

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 16639
  • Karma: -231
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2002, 09:56:31 AM »
Yea, I feel the same way, it's hypocritical, but just like a black guy can't be president, a white guy's gonna get called a cracker, and it'll be alright in most people's eyes.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

Young Dan Iza

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2264
  • Karma: 25
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2002, 10:30:39 AM »
camron sux, ma$e was better
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

LyRiCaL_G

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5964
  • Karma: -19
  • I love YaBB 1 Gold!
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2002, 12:40:00 PM »
yeh but yo, dont forget y'all whites started racism at us black folkes so we jus say to me he jus sayin what he feels, believe it or not, 2 me us niggaz always gonna be second rate in a white dominated area,

and no i aint racist, i jus feel what summa they say
peace
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

Liquid-Dogg

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2002, 12:58:53 PM »
no point in takin it personally.

it's stupid tho, i got white friends who hate it when rappers say 'N****' in songs, they find it offensive...but for what reason, i dont know....

Cams stupid tho, esp since it's mostly white people that got him in his position he's in now...personally i don't like him cuz his music's shit, but that IMO
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

S.G.V.

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2002, 04:09:29 PM »
racism just makes me laugh...it doesnt offend me one bit
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

CodeCaine

  • Muthafuckin' Double OG
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 651
  • Karma: 16
  • reppin for the south, North Cackalac fool
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2002, 04:59:46 PM »
Quote
yeh but yo, dont forget y'all whites started racism at us black folkes so we jus say to me he jus sayin what he feels, believe it or not, 2 me us niggaz always gonna be second rate in a white dominated area,

and no i aint racist, i jus feel what summa they say
peace


No Us whites didnt start racism toward yall black folks...our ancestors maybe have but dont say it wuz us, it wuznt our generation...i aint tryin to beef but i hate it people try to blame tha white people of this generation for racism, i know sum whites are racist but theres racists in every race
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
It's CodeKane fool
Everybody knows Carolina's my home, this is my heart baby, this is my soul.

Folks think I'm out of my mind
I'm out of line a lot of times
I don't give a fuck bout guidelines
Do what I wanna do, when I wanna do it
You-you ain't like what I'm doin', you ain't got to
Petey Pab

Plus a buncha country boys wit gats, you don't want none-a that
-Scales
 

Cliftone_Santiago_909

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1506
  • Karma: 2
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2002, 07:16:10 PM »
I was watching a T.V show about this the other day. they were talking about the exact same thing, double standards in racism. Like that baseball player John Rocker who's from tha braves.. he gets shitted on alot for sayin racist comments. But then you got Mike Tyson... he'll tell reporters shit like "You Pussy Ass White Boy.. I'll Eat Your Fuckin Kids White Boy.. PUSSY!".... you know, Mike alwayz says shit like that and nobody ever gets on him.


That Camron thing is kind of different though. If you read his rap he's talking about not working for white people. He's on Roc-A-Fella... supposibly owned by black people and he's just sayin that he's not about making the White Man rich with his music.


Tha thing that you all got to understand though is that Black people and other minorities are oppressed. It aint like they're just whining to be whining. I know it wasn't your generation of white people who were making them slaves n shit but still... it did happen. It's like... that's tha LEAST ya'll can do... just take a couple negative comments, a couple racial slurs... aint no biggie... at least you aint pickin cotton, gettin raped, in 100 degree weather.





Tha shit he's sayin aint even all that offensive... check it out...


"I'll be damned if I work for some white cracker (shit)
White batter, prize in the pack, fiends love
They hug it, call it Cracker Jacks, KILLA
Where the crack is at, watch me get dem dice
Throw 'em on, let me live my life"  


1st line: He's saying he won't work for a white man. Most likely becuase of tha oppression and also simply just because nobody likes being used.

2nd & 3rd Line: He's sayin he's not a sell out. He aint gonna front just to blow up.

4th and 5th Lines: He's sayin he's gonna make his money the way he knows how.. even if it means hustling. He doesn't want to live his life the way tha goverment (white people) want him too...He's just tryna live... Just let him live..  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »



"These Bustas! Betta Recognize What's Commin'/ Dancin' On D's With Tha Alpine Bumpin'/ Ever Since A Child I Knew How To Live Foul/ Now I Bust Rhymes Like A Cool CRIMINAL" - King Tee
 

infinite59

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2002, 08:52:56 PM »
It's okay when Outkast, Ras Kass, and Snoop say it.

But when Camron says it it's wrong and I'm pissed, and I'd call him on it.  Camron is just a typical middle class black kid I see everyday, he should be working UPS and going to Community College.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
 

ZILLA THA GOODFELLA

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6936
  • Karma: -97
  • www.servnu151.com + www.turfdout.com
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2002, 09:18:05 PM »
If those 4 lines are racist 2 white people then what about tha whole "lets get free" album by Dead Prez? lol.....

Camron is a fake ass anywayz.....Dont mind him.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »

REGGAE MEETS THE WEST BAY MIXTAPE IN STORES NOW !!

TRENCH TOWN HUSTLAZ - YOUNG N HUNGRY
COMING IN 2008.
FEATURING: SAN QUINN, THE JACKA (MOB FIGAZ), DUBEE, TELLY MAC (THA GAMBLAZ) MR. KEE, 10SION, LIL RIC, PROHOEZAK, ARSEN & MORE.

www.myspace.com/trenchtownhustlaz

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY AREAAAAAAAAAAA.. WEST OF THE WATER! COME SEE US!!
 

lala

  • Lil Geezy
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 37
  • Karma: 0
  • One
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2002, 09:57:43 PM »
I wonder if the same people crying about rappers talking about crackers get in an uproar about the same rapper talking about killing niggas, and smacking bitches.  

If you listen to cam and thats what offends you, your soft anyway, he has way worse shit on there about women and other black men anyway.

Recommended Listening:  Da Lench Mob - "Buck the Devil"
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
One
 

tuwac_shakur

  • Guest
Re: Racism evident in Cam'ron's music
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2002, 10:55:57 PM »
Quote

Camron is a fake ass anywayz.....Dont mind him.



how do you know he is fake?

you have been on the internet way too long my friend.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »