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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 10:40:35 PM »
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Gee, lets compare their career totals when Kobe came into the league out of high school, playing minimal minutes behind Eddie Jones in his first couple seasons...fair, right? Kobe has years of prime basketball ahead of him...stop with the unbalanced stat comparisons.
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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 11:40:49 PM »
Gee, lets compare their career totals when Kobe came into the league out of high school, playing minimal minutes behind Eddie Jones in his first couple seasons...fair, right? Kobe has years of prime basketball ahead of him...stop with the unbalanced stat comparisons.

No need to get butthurt. It's obvious that you're biased, and that's cool. I ain't even trying to prove or disprove either player's credibility here, so chillax.

For all intents & purposes it helps to put each player's career in perspective from a statistical standpoint. Take it for what it is.
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 12:13:07 AM »
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Gee, lets compare their career totals when Kobe came into the league out of high school, playing minimal minutes behind Eddie Jones in his first couple seasons...fair, right? Kobe has years of prime basketball ahead of him...stop with the unbalanced stat comparisons.

yeah, but when you take OUT Kobe's first two seasons....Jordan still has better stats (averagewise). If anything, that would put Kobe at an advantage for his years AFTER the first two....he got a taste of the league earlier then Jordan. Not to mention, that would still include Jordans time with the Wizards where his stats dipped alot.



On a side note, its silly to argue this lol. Jordan was obviously better then Kobe. Kobe fans like to argue this because even an argument as to whos better gives Kobe more credit then he deserves. He's the second best 2 guard ever....but still not near Jordan.
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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 01:14:42 AM »
Kobe is not on the same level as jordan, no way.....jordan is the GOAT hands down, easily he shits on kobe, when has kobe led the league in scoring and won defensive player of the year? In the same season? People keep talking about kobes 81 point game, yeah it was unbeliable but it was "1" basketball game.

Jordan averaged more points than kobe on a higher shooting percentage, in fact quite a higher perecentage over there careers near to 5% higher which is MAJOR
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 06:46:39 AM »
mj is to basket ball what tiger is to golf, what gretzky is to hockey, the best, and by far. On top of that people really love him cuz he was a mvp off the court 2, a gentleman
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2008, 08:48:07 AM »
kobe's good, but you can't compare him with mj lol... stop it already

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2008, 11:08:59 AM »
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Gee, lets compare their career totals when Kobe came into the league out of high school, playing minimal minutes behind Eddie Jones in his first couple seasons...fair, right? Kobe has years of prime basketball ahead of him...stop with the unbalanced stat comparisons.

yeah, but when you take OUT Kobe's first two seasons....Jordan still has better stats (averagewise). If anything, that would put Kobe at an advantage for his years AFTER the first two....he got a taste of the league earlier then Jordan. Not to mention, that would still include Jordans time with the Wizards where his stats dipped alot.



On a side note, its silly to argue this lol. Jordan was obviously better then Kobe. Kobe fans like to argue this because even an argument as to whos better gives Kobe more credit then he deserves. He's the second best 2 guard ever....but still not near Jordan.


Jordan's numbers would not be the same had he played most of his career with Shaq. Look at Kobe's averages the last three seasons to get an idea of how his career stats would look minus Shaq. Kobe is beyond being on pace to being the GOAT...a couple more rings will put him there, and there's no doubt in my mind that he's bringing more 'ships to LA.
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2008, 11:12:03 AM »
mj is to basket ball what tiger is to golf, what gretzky is to hockey, the best, and by far. On top of that people really love him cuz he was a mvp off the court 2, a gentleman


that's 100% true...if MJ=Magic Johnson. ;)
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2008, 11:17:35 AM »
Kobe is not on the same level as jordan, no way.....jordan is the GOAT hands down, easily he shits on kobe, when has kobe led the league in scoring and won defensive player of the year? In the same season? People keep talking about kobes 81 point game, yeah it was unbeliable but it was "1" basketball game.

Jordan averaged more points than kobe on a higher shooting percentage, in fact quite a higher perecentage over there careers near to 5% higher which is MAJOR


Jordan had Pippen to rely on defensively...Kobe has been the only legit perimeter defender on the Lakers for some time, so that's not really a fair comparison. Kobe has his share of first team all-defenses and would average more points had he been in Jordan's shoes (handed over the team from day one with no obstacles to overcome). The higher shooting percentage is tricking you, because most of Jordan's point came from close range (MJ didn't have a three ball like Kobe, which naturally drops a shooting percentage). Fact of the matter is, Kobe can do things that only Kobe could do...to say he's not on par with Jordan isn't fair. to say he's not close is a joke...PeAcE
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 06:41:46 PM »
mj is to basket ball what tiger is to golf, what gretzky is to hockey, the best, and by far. On top of that people really love him cuz he was a mvp off the court 2, a gentleman


that's 100% true...if MJ=Magic Johnson. ;)

nah, was talking about michael jackson
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2008, 06:54:18 PM »
Jordan knew how to keep his girls quiet

 

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2008, 07:39:50 PM »
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Gee, lets compare their career totals when Kobe came into the league out of high school, playing minimal minutes behind Eddie Jones in his first couple seasons...fair, right? Kobe has years of prime basketball ahead of him...stop with the unbalanced stat comparisons.

yeah, but when you take OUT Kobe's first two seasons....Jordan still has better stats (averagewise). If anything, that would put Kobe at an advantage for his years AFTER the first two....he got a taste of the league earlier then Jordan. Not to mention, that would still include Jordans time with the Wizards where his stats dipped alot.



On a side note, its silly to argue this lol. Jordan was obviously better then Kobe. Kobe fans like to argue this because even an argument as to whos better gives Kobe more credit then he deserves. He's the second best 2 guard ever....but still not near Jordan.


Jordan's numbers would not be the same had he played most of his career with Shaq.

oooooh....bad move bringing that up. I almost forgot. So youre right. Not only are Jordans stats better....but if you take Shaq out of the equation, Jordan would have 6 more rings then Kobe.
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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2008, 11:03:08 PM »
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Gee, lets compare their career totals when Kobe came into the league out of high school, playing minimal minutes behind Eddie Jones in his first couple seasons...fair, right? Kobe has years of prime basketball ahead of him...stop with the unbalanced stat comparisons.

yeah, but when you take OUT Kobe's first two seasons....Jordan still has better stats (averagewise). If anything, that would put Kobe at an advantage for his years AFTER the first two....he got a taste of the league earlier then Jordan. Not to mention, that would still include Jordans time with the Wizards where his stats dipped alot.



On a side note, its silly to argue this lol. Jordan was obviously better then Kobe. Kobe fans like to argue this because even an argument as to whos better gives Kobe more credit then he deserves. He's the second best 2 guard ever....but still not near Jordan.


Jordan's numbers would not be the same had he played most of his career with Shaq.

oooooh....bad move bringing that up. I almost forgot. So youre right. Not only are Jordans stats better....but if you take Shaq out of the equation, Jordan would have 6 more rings then Kobe.


Pippen was a better compliment to Jordan than Shaq woulda been...Jordan was too egotistical to co-exist with someone like Shaq. Both players need to have it their way. Kobe was able to adapt, he was able to defer to Shaq's ego in order to win, including when the coaching staff wanted different and including the seasons where his MVP candidacy was higher than Shaq's. Kobe is also known to have a stronger work-ethic than Jordan, who also had an amazing work-ethic, but even those who have seen MJ train say Kobe's easily the hardest worker this league has ever seen. If you think Kobe's not on pace to being GOAT, then you're simply not being fair with your arguments.
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2008, 11:29:17 PM »
you say that the reason kobes percentage was lower was becaue he had a 3-ball and that jordan shot from close rage, that dosent matter at all. he shot at a way better perecentage and avaraged more points, it doset matter where the shot is taken from, he still avaraged more points even tho kobe had a 3-bll, which ndeed was only 4% higher than jordans over there careers. if the 3-ball mattered or was of significance then kobe would avarage more points than jordan
 

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Re: *VIDEO* Michael Jordan answers the Kobe vs. Jordan question
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2008, 11:37:58 PM »
you say that the reason kobes percentage was lower was becaue he had a 3-ball and that jordan shot from close rage, that dosent matter at all. he shot at a way better perecentage and avaraged more points, it doset matter where the shot is taken from, he still avaraged more points even tho kobe had a 3-bll, which ndeed was only 4% higher than jordans over there careers. if the 3-ball mattered or was of significance then kobe would avarage more points than jordan


Of course he averaged more points...he didn't have a player that demanded he defer to him throughout most his career ala Shaq. And yes, having more range drastically decreases your percentage. Anything above 30% from three point range is considered good, where as having a 40% overall fg% would be terrible. How is Kobe having a better stroke not an advantage over Jordan? It is common sense that three point shooters will have a lower percentage than players who's shot isn't as reliable as their strength in the paint. Kobe has both strengths, and he does settle for a lot of jumpers, but his shot AND drive to the paint are better than Jordan's. If we were going based off of you argument, Shaq>MJ, because of the fg% discrepency. Do you realize how dumb that is?