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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2008, 07:23:39 PM »
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2008, 07:27:52 PM »
Professor, it seems like u missed my point

my point is that the term Persian is not solely reflective of Iranians. Tajiks and some Afghans are just as Persian as Iranians, but there are some Iranians who are dismissive of non Iranians as Persians. So I pointed out examples of Persian notables who are claimed by Iranians as Persians, but others from the same place are not

Comprende?>

Btw, can you provide proof that the term Persian exists in Farsi?....Because I will stand corrected if you do. I have never heard anyone say MA PERSIAN ASTOM..SHUMA PERSIAN ASTEE. ETC
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2008, 07:55:32 PM »
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2008, 11:01:41 AM »
Professor, it seems like u missed my point

my point is that the term Persian is not solely reflective of Iranians. Tajiks and some Afghans are just as Persian as Iranians, but there are some Iranians who are dismissive of non Iranians as Persians. So I pointed out examples of Persian notables who are claimed by Iranians as Persians, but others from the same place are not

Comprende?>

Btw, can you provide proof that the term Persian exists in Farsi?....Because I will stand corrected if you do. I have never heard anyone say MAN PERSIAN HASTAM..SHUMA PERSIAN HASTEED. ETC

I understand what you were trying to say, but the way you wrote it might have been misinterpreted by other readers.

Nomenclature

Persian, the more widely used name of the language in English, is an Anglicized form derived from Latin *Persianus < Latin Persia < Greek Πέρσις Pérsis, a Hellenized form of Old Persian Parsa. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term Persian seems to have been first used in English in the mid-16th century.[9] Native Persian speakers call it "Fārsi" (local name) or Parsi. Farsi is the arabicized form of Parsi, due to a lack of the /p/ phoneme in Standard Arabic.


- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language

Fars is the original homeland of the Persian people. The native name of the Persian language is Fârsi or Pârsi. Persia and Persian both derive from the Hellenized form Πέρσις Persis of the root word Pârs. The Old Persian word was Pârsâ.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_province

btw I am Persian, but from the way you wrote that sentence I think you aren't lol...jk homie...where you from??
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2008, 11:14:34 AM »
Professor, it seems like u missed my point

my point is that the term Persian is not solely reflective of Iranians. Tajiks and some Afghans are just as Persian as Iranians, but there are some Iranians who are dismissive of non Iranians as Persians. So I pointed out examples of Persian notables who are claimed by Iranians as Persians, but others from the same place are not

Comprende?>

Btw, can you provide proof that the term Persian exists in Farsi?....Because I will stand corrected if you do. I have never heard anyone say MAN PERSIAN HASTAM..SHUMA PERSIAN HASTEED. ETC

I understand what you were trying to say, but the way you wrote it might have been misinterpreted by other readers.

Nomenclature

Persian, the more widely used name of the language in English, is an Anglicized form derived from Latin *Persianus < Latin Persia < Greek Πέρσις Pérsis, a Hellenized form of Old Persian Parsa. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term Persian seems to have been first used in English in the mid-16th century.[9] Native Persian speakers call it "Fārsi" (local name) or Parsi. Farsi is the arabicized form of Parsi, due to a lack of the /p/ phoneme in Standard Arabic.


- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language

Fars is the original homeland of the Persian people. The native name of the Persian language is Fârsi or Pârsi. Persia and Persian both derive from the Hellenized form Πέρσις Persis of the root word Pârs. The Old Persian word was Pârsâ.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_province

btw I am Persian, but from the way you wrote that sentence I think you aren't lol...jk homie...where you from??

Your assumption is right.

Ma Irani nestom. Afghan astom. Pashtun to be exact. Kamak farsi yad gereftem, kho Farsi E Afghanistan hast. Its more "Kitabi" than the Iranian farsi. Maybe that explains the slight differences in pronounciation.
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2008, 11:23:31 AM »
That's crazy that in Cali it's so many different ethnicities and shit. In Florida, I have yet to run into ANY Persian.
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2008, 11:42:41 AM »
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2008, 06:34:57 PM »
shave your beard, tech

with that face you have some nerve giving advice on grooming
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2008, 07:46:00 PM »
shave your beard, tech

with that face you have some nerve giving advice on grooming


your sister likes it. she also needs to shave.
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2008, 09:15:34 PM »
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2008, 09:36:58 AM »
If you come from ol' school families, they're going to be referring to themselves as Persian. If that's how you were brought up, then so be it. The Persians have thousands of years of history, the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old. Plus, most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress. It's these new-school "Iranians" that want to kill the "Persian" name, but there's a huge legacy that is left behind and the real descendants of the Persian people refuse to let it die.

A lot of Afghans and Armenians refer to themselves as Persian also. Why wouldn't that be accepted? They might call them wannabes in white-washed Persian communities in Southern California, but out in the homeland, it's widely accepted because of the history. They might all be separated in different gangs and tribes, but it's still all Persian.

@ thread starter.. where in the Bay Area you stay at?
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2008, 12:14:46 PM »
If you come from ol' school families, they're going to be referring to themselves as Persian. If that's how you were brought up, then so be it. The Persians have thousands of years of history, the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old. Plus, most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress. It's these new-school "Iranians" that want to kill the "Persian" name, but there's a huge legacy that is left behind and the real descendants of the Persian people refuse to let it die.

A lot of Afghans and Armenians refer to themselves as Persian also. Why wouldn't that be accepted? They might call them wannabes in white-washed Persian communities in Southern California, but out in the homeland, it's widely accepted because of the history. They might all be separated in different gangs and tribes, but it's still all Persian.

@ thread starter.. where in the Bay Area you stay at?
u could not have been more wrong...i can't find one TRUE statement in ur post homie,except for the underlined part...

ur either in denial or extremely stupid....u choose...
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2008, 02:13:28 PM »
Explain what I'm in denial about? You presented no facts, where is your "true statements"? Get tha fuck outta here, am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no.
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2008, 12:07:18 AM »
Explain what I'm in denial about? You presented no facts, where is your "true statements"? Get tha fuck outta here, am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no.

game over
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2008, 02:52:01 AM »
Rod is trippin. most old school families refer to themselves as Iranian, not Persian...the name Iranian goes way past 100 years. To top it off, Afghans are not treated the same as Iranians in Iran. LOL@that claim...Rod is way off. checkmate deez nutz.
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2008, 07:25:34 PM »
I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.

LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there. 

Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
 

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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2008, 08:01:30 PM »
checkmate deez nutz
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2008, 09:21:40 PM »
I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.

LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there. 

Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
LMFAO @ NIK clowning on u son...i didn't even wanna reply to ur post because i know u really don't know shit based on ur first post...i go to iran 2-3 times a year...how often do u go???i went to school there for 9 years...up till my Junior year in highschool...how many years did u go to school in iran???oh...and ROFLMMFAO @ u keep bringin' up "so-cal" persians as an example...just because u c some fagot ass iranian FOB's cruisin' the streets of BH and WH wit their hair spiked 3 feet into the air doesn't mean that all so-cal iranians r like that...maybe the foo's u kick it wit r the homo's u refer to...but the iranians i kick it wit r nothing like that...

"the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old."
: r u fuckin kiddin me cuddie?Iran means "land of the Aryans"...or if ur still in touch wit ur iranian roots i'll say it in farsi muhfucka...iran yani sarzamineh aryaee ha bacheh kooni...iranians were always known as iranians amongst themselves...not persians...persian is a english word idiot...thats like us americans calling people from germany,german...do u think they call themselves german?they call themselves dutch...that example isn't exactly what i was going for...but if u don't get the point by know my friend...u should might as well move to socal and spike ur hair and mingle wit ur fagot ass "persians" that u know of...

"am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no."
: I made that e-mail address when i was like 12 or some shit...so whats ur point?


"But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there" : how the fuck can a afghan b persian u dumbass???persian=fars...afghans r not fars...unless they're a mix...but afghans r not persian...they could b...but thats like saying a arab could b persian...yes...if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid could be a persian-arab...comprende???


"Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline"
: nope...u could b a kurd and b iranian...but that doesn't make u persian...me myself...i'm 50% fars(persian),10%tork(not turks from turkey...but torks from the north-western part of Iran i.e. cities like tabriz,ardebil,moghawn,salmaas,meshkin shahr,etc.etc.)30%kurd and
10% russian...(I did some research on my family tree for my Humanities/Sociology class last semester...thats why I know all these percentages...easiest A+ ever haha...)


"most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress." : 5% of the population held more than 90% of the wealth when the shah was in power where now the wealth in iran is spread out much more...which means progress...

I really didn't wanna make u look stupid "Zilla"...but know i realize that it was inevitable...we have an old saying in Iran..."bozak namir bahar miad...khompozeh ba khiar miad"...now ur the bozak and i brought the khiar...and u just got raped...(lol...that shit sounds so funny right now...old iranian sayings make alot more sense when ur blazed,lol)...


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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2008, 01:08:57 AM »
I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.

LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there. 

Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.


youre an idiot, point blank...you front like you're hard and call people nerds, but the fact of the matter is you still just a lil persian iranian pussy who likes to talk himself up to feel better about his image. i got my info off of people who lived in iran, you smelly fuck. now go try to front like you're some persian iranian crip somewhere else, son.
 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2008, 01:13:56 AM »
I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.

LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there. 

Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
LMFAO @ NIK clowning on u son...i didn't even wanna reply to ur post because i know u really don't know shit based on ur first post...i go to iran 2-3 times a year...how often do u go???i went to school there for 9 years...up till my Junior year in highschool...how many years did u go to school in iran???oh...and ROFLMMFAO @ u keep bringin' up "so-cal" persians as an example...just because u c some fagot ass iranian FOB's cruisin' the streets of BH and WH wit their hair spiked 3 feet into the air doesn't mean that all so-cal iranians r like that...maybe the foo's u kick it wit r the homo's u refer to...but the iranians i kick it wit r nothing like that...

"the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old."
: r u fuckin kiddin me cuddie?Iran means "land of the Aryans"...or if ur still in touch wit ur iranian roots i'll say it in farsi muhfucka...iran yani sarzamineh aryaee ha bacheh kooni...iranians were always known as iranians amongst themselves...not persians...persian is a english word idiot...thats like us americans calling people from germany,german...do u think they call themselves german?they call themselves dutch...that example isn't exactly what i was going for...but if u don't get the point by know my friend...u should might as well move to socal and spike ur hair and mingle wit ur fagot ass "persians" that u know of...

"am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no."
: I made that e-mail address when i was like 12 or some shit...so whats ur point?


"But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there" : how the fuck can a afghan b persian u dumbass???persian=fars...afghans r not fars...unless they're a mix...but afghans r not persian...they could b...but thats like saying a arab could b persian...yes...if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid could be a persian-arab...comprende???


"Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline"
: nope...u could b a kurd and b iranian...but that doesn't make u persian...me myself...i'm 50% fars(persian),10%tork(not turks from turkey...but torks from the north-western part of Iran i.e. cities like tabriz,ardebil,moghawn,salmaas,meshkin shahr,etc.etc.)30%kurd and
10% russian...(I did some research on my family tree for my Humanities/Sociology class last semester...thats why I know all these percentages...easiest A+ ever haha...)


"most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress." : 5% of the population held more than 90% of the wealth when the shah was in power where now the wealth in iran is spread out much more...which means progress...

I really didn't wanna make u look stupid "Zilla"...but know i realize that it was inevitable...we have an old saying in Iran..."bozak namir bahar miad...khompozeh ba khiar miad"...now ur the bozak and i brought the khiar...and u just got raped...(lol...that shit sounds so funny right now...old iranian sayings make alot more sense when ur blazed,lol)...


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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2008, 09:57:12 AM »
ha ha wait for a response before declaring a win. See, all you're doing is twisting the truth my friend. This is really a complex issue since the history is do deep.

But check it, Persia has always been used as an official name for Iran by the WEST. This was all until March 21, 1935 when the SHAH put out some kinda demand to the foreign delegates of the world and formally changed the name. Yes, there were certain Indo-European Aryans using the word "Iran" for certain parts since damn near Christ times, but it's the GREATER IRAN that is classified as Persia. Ever heard of that term? I doubt it.. but you can not deny it. The Persian were the people who were inhabiting Iran. When the Persians took over lands in those times, the name Persian came with them. It was stuck for thousands of years. Reza SHAH was just a person with a European mentality and wanted to white-wash the country back to the traditional Aryan way of labeling the land. And he was successful at it, he even allied with America and did bring some real progress. But it did backfire at the same time, which I'm not going to get into. Ever wondered why the people in Shiraz are much darker than the people in Tehran? South v.s North? The North is closer to Europe, and the South is closer to Africa. When the Persians came in and took over for so many generations, they had kids with all kinds of people. From mating with Mazandaranis and Azeris to people from Balooch, Iranian Arabs (which is a real ethnic group) and beyond. Bottomline is that the Persians are dominant after thousands of years. We are no longer Indo-European. Our blood is filled up with all kinds of other shit, it's integrated. It's PERSIAN!

When you meet an Afghan who speaks Farsi, that's PERSIAN. But not all Afghans speak that, some speak Arabic. Therefore, some Afghans from certain areas are Persian since they have roots in the land with the ethnic group. It's not too hard to understand.

History has separated us so wide, and if you grew up in the type of family who hates on Afghans for example.. then ofcourse you will be biased and racist. Since the history is so deep and complex, you can twist it into any way you want to prove a point. But at the end of the day, we all the same, quit whining.
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2008, 12:40:16 PM »
ha ha wait for a response before declaring a win. See, all you're doing is twisting the truth my friend. This is really a complex issue since the history is do deep.

But check it, Persia has always been used as an official name for Iran by the WEST. This was all until March 21, 1935 when the SHAH put out some kinda demand to the foreign delegates of the world and formally changed the name. Yes, there were certain Indo-European Aryans using the word "Iran" for certain parts since damn near Christ times, but it's the GREATER IRAN that is classified as Persia. Ever heard of that term? I doubt it.. but you can not deny it. The Persian were the people who were inhabiting Iran. When the Persians took over lands in those times, the name Persian came with them. It was stuck for thousands of years. Reza SHAH was just a person with a European mentality and wanted to white-wash the country back to the traditional Aryan way of labeling the land. And he was successful at it, he even allied with America and did bring some real progress. But it did backfire at the same time, which I'm not going to get into. Ever wondered why the people in Shiraz are much darker than the people in Tehran? South v.s North? The North is closer to Europe, and the South is closer to Africa. When the Persians came in and took over for so many generations, they had kids with all kinds of people. From mating with Mazandaranis and Azeris to people from Balooch, Iranian Arabs (which is a real ethnic group) and beyond. Bottomline is that the Persians are dominant after thousands of years. We are no longer Indo-European. Our blood is filled up with all kinds of other shit, it's integrated. It's PERSIAN!

When you meet an Afghan who speaks Farsi, that's PERSIAN. But not all Afghans speak that, some speak Arabic. Therefore, some Afghans from certain areas are Persian since they have roots in the land with the ethnic group. It's not too hard to understand.

History has separated us so wide, and if you grew up in the type of family who hates on Afghans for example.. then ofcourse you will be biased and racist. Since the history is so deep and complex, you can twist it into any way you want to prove a point. But at the end of the day, we all the same, quit whining.

WOW zilla...thanx for all the info,lmao...u didn't even answer any of my questions dawg?and just to clarify shit up I don't hate on afghans...why would I?but they do hate on afghans in iran...they get more shit than bahai's,jews,christians,etc.etc....

See, all you're doing is twisting the truth my friend : quote the parts of my post that i twisted the truth and elaborate on it if ur real cuzz...whats funny iz that YOU my friend r the one trying to weasel ur way out of ur first post which made absolutely no sense...and I proved that by breaking the shit down for ya...what u did was say I twisted shit up and u urself went on rambling about reza shah and his western(european) mentality???what the fuck does that have to do wit what i said???

From mating with Mazandaranis and Azeris to people from Balooch, Iranian Arabs (which is a real ethnic group) and beyond. : thats exactly what I said dawg...why r u just repeating what i said???can't u think of anything else...lol..."if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid is a persian-arab" thats what I said...sound familiar...

South is closer to Africa. : please tell me ur kidding...lmao...this is how I know ur talking out of ur ass cuddie...u got ur shit mixed up real bad huh?the reason the people from southern iran r darker is because they got racially mixed wit arabs...not africans,lol...whats funny is u even said that we have iranian-arabs...then bring p africans???

"Our blood is filled up with all kinds of other shit, it's integrated. It's PERSIAN!"
: u sound so corny dawg,lol...u sound like some kid who keeps trying to fit in wit the iranians but they won't accept u...so u keep trying harder and harder and harder cuddie,lmao...and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...


but it's the GREATER IRAN that is classified as Persia. Ever heard of that term? I doubt it. : yes...i said that it was known as persia by the western countries...but iranians still called it iran...have u read any saa'di,mowlavi,hafez,aref qazvini,parveen e'tesami books?these poets date back more than a 100 years right???k...now if u read their poems(if u can read farsi) they ALWAYS refer to iran as "Iran" or "sarzamineh aryaee ha"...not persia...so u said it was known as persia up till "This was all until March 21, 1935",right?then tell me this kiddo...i'm sure u know who Victor Hugo is...the dude that wrote "binavayan" or "Les Misérables" if u don't know the farsi version...he lived from February 26, 1802 – May 22, 1885 OK?now imma do this real slow so u can understand it...do u know what victor hugo said about saadi...he called him "Iranian king" in poetry...so how would he call him "iranian" if the term wasn't used by the western world...he died b4 the shah officially changed it...i c what u said had some truth to it...but u said that the term iranian ain't even 100 years old,which it is way more old than that...how many times do I have to prove that to u cuzzz,lol...

u ain't makin any sense bruh,so...

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2008, 03:41:32 PM »
yo Ali what the fuck are you yapping about

some afghans are persians. they are an aryan people from the historic land of pars, who speak farsi. the fuck you think, the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran?

Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half

And Rod you had it half right, the Afghans who areTajik are Persian, the non Persian Afghans dont speak Arabic they speak PASHTO.

Pashtuns are NOT persians, and they are the majority ethnicity in Afghanistan, however a significant portion of the Afghan population are PERSIAN. Alot more persian than your mixed ass Ali  so I dont know why u would denounce thenm

and yeah Afghans get treated bad in Iran but thats because yall some bitch ass niggaz.
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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2008, 04:56:00 PM »
yo Ali what the fuck are you yapping about

some afghans are persians. they are an aryan people from the historic land of pars, who speak farsi. the fuck you think, the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran?

Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half

And Rod you had it half right, the Afghans who areTajik are Persian, the non Persian Afghans dont speak Arabic they speak PASHTO.

Pashtuns are NOT persians, and they are the majority ethnicity in Afghanistan, however a significant portion of the Afghan population are PERSIAN. Alot more persian than your mixed ass Ali  so I dont know why u would denounce thenm

and yeah Afghans get treated bad in Iran but thats because yall some bitch ass niggaz.
ok so now u want some of this little girl...lol @ u attempting to beat me in a debate son...this ain't NIK homie...u can't just post bullshit and expect me to take it cuddie...wtf iz wrong wit u and zilla???u guys keep posting what i already said...

some afghans are persians. : hmmm...didn't I already say that..."but afghans r not persian...they could b"...did u even read my post muhfucka???I said some afghans could b persian...

the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran? : ummm yes...r u retarded???

Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half : sorry...but ur wrong nigga...iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt...but over the years the kings kept losing parts of the country starting from the western part and then eventually all thats left of the land of "PARS" that u speak of is iran...



FUCK IT SON...I'M NOT GETTING PAYED TO TEACH U NIGGAZ...I'M OUT YOUNG'NZZZ...

P.S. : tech...sorry I had to school u too son...but its all good cuzz...atleast I know I'm making the world a better place letting you westernized middle easterners have the troof...now go and cry to your parents for not telling u guys the truth about ur ancestry...

p.p.s. : If I had to choose which one of u 2 idiots was more on point...I would have to say it was...DEEZ NUTS NUKKAH...LMAO...both of u katts r equally retarded...

 

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Re: Why do so many Iranians identify themselves as "Persian"?
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2008, 05:03:40 PM »
and yeah Afghans get treated bad in Iran but thats because yall some bitch ass niggaz. : thank u for repeating what i already said...thats whats wrong wit u afghans cuzzz...ya'll take shit personal...afghans r like mexicans in iran...they're a MINORITY...and all minorities get treated the same in every country...u don't c me bitchin @ americans and calling them bitch-ass niggaz because i get searched 8 times @ the airport,or when I can't get a job at dirty d's or jack in the crack cause I'm from the middle-east...life's hard son...either except it...or go and join ur uncle osama's gang and blow shit up...whatever u do...remember that at the end of the day...its all muslim baby... 8)